Communism general

Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

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gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/
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youtube.com/watch?v=t8LtQhIQ2AE
ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeнный_кoммyнизм
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Get in the helicopter

Communism is a retarded ideal for people who want to leech off their(or in Marx's case, other people's) mothers. What a pathetic ideology for pathetic weak people.

Reported for spam.

Don't communists hate the (((bankers))) too? Then let's get together.

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It is of no coincidence Karl Marx was poor and unemployed and relied on leeching off someone to survive while he wrote his bullshit

fuck off

communism is one of the most dangerous and poisonous ideas ever come up with. Fuck karl marx

How much do you paid to post this every time here?

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*do you get paid

Nah he is a NEET it's /leftypol/

But he wasn't poor by any stretch of imagination, he just didn't like to pay off his dents to the working class who provided him with groceries. He loved to drink expensive booze and cigars.

Engels was giving him a monthly handout equal to two monthly wages of skilled craftsman.

In short Marx was very typical communist, basically a blueprint of all that came after him.

Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
gommies.gom/fug/
gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/

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Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

Dis is gobbunism I gan ged behine of :DD

Also op got BTFO'd in /mpol/ lmao.

Listen you faggots, are you going to let leftypol keep on raiding our homeboard?

They have a coordinated operation with 5-10 anons and a discord channel, they are jobless as fuck and keep spamming their commie generals for the last six months straight, are you gonna take this standing down?

See the archives:
(archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/communism general/type/op/)

Over 300 Commie generals have been made by the same poster, 3+ times a day on most days, and a total of around 600 total made by 4 posters (a Spaniard, an American, a Netherlander, a Canadian)

The leftypol "ringleader" even posted on 8ch.an challenging us.

Its time for action laddies.

PS the mods are in on it

Why do all arguments against communism never engage on the ideals?

> live in the 1st world
> want to make it 3rd world
> don't want to go living in the 3rd world
why? (yes, I know, you just want to kill and humiliate goyim. but why)

no

im kicking you out the chopper bye bye now

These retarded generals get shut down every single time. They have like 8 active posters at any time of the day, seriously a non-threat especially considering how much mockery they get both here and in the real world.
>PS the mods are in on it
Yep. The mod base has been getting infiltrated for years, and not just here. Sup Forums still hasn't changed for the most part, this is what is most frustrating to them.

Because Communism is ultimately based in idealism? People who sympathize with something this stupid run on emotion, not intellect, they believe everyone should be equal where they aren't, and generally have good intentions despite understanding absolutely nothing about anything. The true danger of Communists is their own stupidity, because they rally to create this idealized version of the world that 100% of the time turns into despotism ran by a gang of armed thugs.

I must be tired, I interpreted the opposite of your post.

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when people argue that the system is too idealist it doesn't mean it's wrong. Just because in the present reality you can't see a way of it working doesn't mean you stop educating people about it in hope?

youtube.com/watch?v=t8LtQhIQ2AE

Fuck off, Moor. Your ideology is the cause of political "correctness".

Nothing wrong with that video, everybody is getting food.

I could idealize a world where wolves and rabbits can coexist peacefully it doesn't mean it will ever happen. Systems of government sprout organically, you can't force a system that is not within the nature of humanity.

please bank those ideals and I debunk them for you

I don't think there is a fundamental flaw, I'm saying I can understand an argument that sees a flaw in implementation in the current situation.

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A lot of shit is linked in OPs post but fundamentally you produce according to your ability and receive based on your need with property owned by the collective.

Why is my property owned by the collective again?
And what part of my brain is owned by the collective if it's being my main mean of production?

Too bad you do not read russian
ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeнный_кoммyнизм
(the grey areas are especially tasty)

youtube.com/watch?v=hkGP8UWmZCY

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I get the feeling you keep posting just to see

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shame on you, moron

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something is seriously wrong with you if you find that monstrosity appealing

Gomrades,we need do free de worgers X-DDDD

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Stalinist architecture makes me ecstatic

THANKS MR. BENIS :-D

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who establishes my needs? Is having an Iphone a need? Are needs just food, clothing that allows you not to die in the cold and a place to sleep? Is transportation a need? What about accumulating money to leave it to my children, is that a need?
Also why do communists not want to redistribute their wealth? I assume your parents have money. Have they given it to the international proletariat? Including all of the workers in the third wolrd?
Unless you do that first you are not a true communist, just a LARPing spoiled teen

>reading communist literature makes you a faggot

Very true.

They never read it though (because religious people wouldn't be that religious if they actually read their shit)

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can any communist answer this please? I asked the same on leftypol and I only got butthurt reactions from it

Not leftypol but any faggot should be allowed to discuss any political ideology (besides perhaps progressive SJW bullshit--this is politically INCORRECT) on the board. Silencing or outright banning certain political discussion belongs on Reddit and anyone advocating for it needs to go back.

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can you as a communist answer ?

yeah but that dumb board just got nuked.

The all state automated system

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what? Also what about the second point?

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>just shitpost instad of adressing questions

How's that 40% unemployment rate working out for you?

Idiotic image. So you use means that you put no effort into and get to keep all the reward because you used them?

Logic of murders and thieves. Kill yourself.

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May I answer that, as a witness of their practice, and let them try and correct me:
The Party establishes your needs. Iphone is a bourgeous excess. Yes, basal needs are needs indeed. Transportation is a need because you have to get to work in time, but Party may make you transport yourself by foot even if it's tens of kilometers and deep snow. That is how steel was tempered. Accumulating money is a bourgeois stratification and is absolutely not acceptable. Government will take care of your children, just as Plato teaches, and they teach that paedophile to your children and you don't have a clue. Also communists don't redistribute their wealth, because their goal is to redistribute you wealth, and for achieving that goal they could need some cash. They will give to those poor as soon as they take it from you.
Also you know that soviet government was jews and husbands of jews. What you don't know is that the other half of them was noblety. even lenin's family got noble title. So their goals are far from the declarated ones.

Zero argument.

Way to downplay the fact your boss gave you the machines and the materials.

Figures coming from a country conquered by nigger and muslims.

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Russia used to be a cultural and scientific centre before your friends came. Today we don't have neither science nor culture.

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> jew
> communist
purely a coincidence
youtube.com/watch?v=qTYSv_YQOVo

Nice try rabbi

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I know you're from Spain, but seriously are you too stupid to form your own argument and resort to posting marco images created by others?

Literally kill yourself you leech.

We don't ban retarded communists here, we mock them. Leftypol on the other hand bans Sup Forums users if Sup Forums users did the same. Leftists are hypocrites and pieces of shit.

This is not rightypol

Thats not the issue. Workers can still buy materials. The difference is the profit-interest system benefits workers more. A regular paycheck is much more beneficial then the possibility of one, even if it might be more than the regular pay check.

Nothing stops people from forming a commune. They just prefer to have a paycheck every week.

You're right. This is Sup Forums original.
The Coke Classic of political discussion boards.

Commie faggots just wish their deadass board could compete with our glory, touting their dumbfuck ideology around their irrelevant little board pretending like its Sup Forums because they know they are anathema here.

> murder artists and scientists
> expropriate their gains and marvels

Genius.

sound good :DDD everydhing is free? exgellend :DD

And most important, no borders or racial discrimination! The jews struggle finally coming to an end! Everyone will blanda and there will be no races or nations, just equality!


Hmmm, no wonder this ideology only works on races that have no pride in themselves and thus nothing to lose. Their will to resist racial extinction simply does not exist. So if they do not value themselves why should we?

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Sage

I love this pasta so much, thanks for ruining that commiecuck's shitty thread each time

>pride
bad goy!

>communist housing

This is being facetious, it should say that they'll provide equal amounts of nothing to everyone. Everyone receives the equal amount of no food(they all starve) and the equal amount of housing(they live in trap houses like crack addicts without the crack).

It's also important to note that 'everyone' doesn't include party leaders. These people get to own property and keep generally all the profits while everyone ruled by the party lives in equal parts squalor.

medigal gare in the form of starbation? Sounds good :DDDDD

>How much is a doctor paid in Cuba?
>At the high end, doctors with two specialties will see their salary go from the equivalent of $26 a month to $67, while an entry-level nurse will make $25, up from $13. Salaries at government jobs in Cuba average about $20 a month, augmented by a range of free services and subsidies.

Spain houses are like that too, what's your point ?

THAT'S NOT A DEFENSE KEK

Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
gommies.gom/fug/
gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/

Is is Sweden?

Spain is also a shithole so