What do you think is the proper solution to transgenderism...

What do you think is the proper solution to transgenderism? While it's true that most transgender people commit suicide regardless of hormones and surgery, is there anything that can be done to salvage them and have them go on to live a normal life?

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Hey hon why do you need to shit post on Sup Forums? Wasn't mtfg enough for you? Also I remember way back when I used to post on /cd/ too.

>wasn't mtfg enough for you
No. That place is cancer. It just makes me want to self terminate.

The only solution is for moderates, normal people, right-wingers etc to stand up and educate people. To inform others of risks associated with the whole fad, to fight virtue signalling and pretentious youth wanting to be special snowflakes, to make others understand that not subscribing 100% to some stereotype or archetype doesn't make a person less of a man or woman. That they may and likely will feel kinda confused and not sure about themselves at some point because that's a normal part of childhood and growing up, self-discovery and it doesn't mean they're "wrong gender".

We let them pay for 100% of their shit.

Most trannies convince themselves at a relatively early age that their life is shit because they aren't in the right body. They're steadfastly persuaded that if only they could be the opposite gender they'd find happiness at last. When in reality, their life is shit for a number of other reasons, but not that.

The only way to remedy the tranny problem is if we increase the standard of living of the general population so less people misguidedly feel that they have to escape their gender.

What you say here suggests it's not standard of living that is the main cause but potential trannies simply believing and being encouraged in their belief of bullshit. I'd start with correcting them at that point before moving to considerable undertakings like improving lifestyle - after all, many people in western civilization do have a better standard of living than the rest of the world yet west is also the biggest source of trannies.

Were you a trip? I used to be a trip there but i got sick of it. For the most part I am a normie now though.

A pistol round to the back of the head.

Hopkins Hospital eventually stopped performing the operations in 1979, after Jon Meyer, the chair of the sexual behaviours unit, conducted a study comparing 29 patients who had the surgery and 21 who didn’t, and concluded that those who had the surgery were no more adjusted to society than those who did not have the surgery. As Meyer told the New York Times in 1979: ‘My personal feeling is that surgery is not proper treatment for a psychiatric disorder, and it’s clear to me that these patients have severe psychological problems that don’t go away following surgery.’

taking away the stigma around it would be a good start and I don't mean the "trans people need rights" kind of stigma, I mean the "it's not a mental disease" stigma.

To make scientific advancement we have to accept as a society that transgender people are fucked in the head and look for a solution. Making rhem believe they're actually the other sex hasn't worked (it's like putting lipstick on a pig, it's still a pig so you don't really treat gender disphoria this way). I'd suggest therapy focused on fighting the disphoria with gender identity therapy to begin with and then we could try drugs to treat their depression.

I bet you could cure disphoria by giving their orifinal sex hormones (testoterone for men and strogen for women). Biology drives psychology pretty hard so it might give positive results, I don't know.
What we really need is to take down the transgender rights movement. it makes studying this disease impossible because fucking politics.

No I wasn't a trip. Thats what I mean when I say that I hate mtfg. They're incapable of acting like normal human beings. It gets really grating after a while.

put them in mental institutions where they belong.

So do you watch porn? Any at all.

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The rise of transgenderism among the young is particularly striking. The Tavistock and Portman Gender Identity Development Service is the only NHS-funded gender service in the UK for young people, dealing exclusively with under-18s. Over the past year, the number of referrals has more than doubled from 697 in 2014/15 to 1,419 in 2015/16. The number of children aged 10 and under (the youngest age included in the statistics is three) referred to the clinic has followed a similar pattern, rising from 87 to 167 referrals between 2014/15 and 2015/16.

I was a trip for over two years there. I still go there once and awhile to shit post but I have more more healthier outlets now. I know what you mean though because it is always the same shit.

Kayla dramma
Angie wants to kill herself again
So does sheen
Look at me do I pass omg I am a hon
Edie being a whore


It just got old for me.

Remember there is a legitimate mental disorder that's forcing some trannies to believe their body is the wrong sex. It's been proven through MRIs and image mapping of the brain.
Best approach for those people (minority of the tranny population) is research on what caused their brain to develop like that.

>Turkish gender
Genuine Kek.

Significantly, Peterson rejects the idea that biological sex and gender identity are independent of each other. ‘The vast majority of people’, he tells me, ‘who either have male or female as a biological sex, have male or female as a gender identity and male or female as a gender expression, and furthermore they are also traditionally heterosexual. So 98 per cent of the population line up on all four of those dimensions in the traditional manner. Therefore they do not vary independently. That doesn’t mean there aren’t exceptions. There are exceptions to every rule.

Peterson is equally critical of the concept of a gender-identity spectrum. ‘Gender identity is not a spectrum, it’s the wrong word’, he says. ‘At most, it’s a slightly modified bimodal distribution. There are two poles, male and female, and virtually everyone winds up on one or the other. There are feminine men and masculine women, they are in a minority. And maybe there are a few people in the middle who aren’t sure which one they are, but they are a tiny, tiny, tiny minority.’
What does he think lies behind the rise of transgenderism, and the accompanying demand to have an expanded range of pronouns?
‘It’s a quick route to identity, and to privilege, and to specialness’, he says. ‘Look, there is one person who gets to choose her pronoun: that’s the Queen. The Queen is “we”. Well, okay, the Queen gets to pick a pronoun, I’m okay with that. But you don’t get to be Queen just because you asked for it. It’s an unearned, special distinction.’

Try this and keep trannys from being mainstream.

The proper solution to people coming out as transgenders is to punish them with the death penalty and the same with homosexuals and lesbians. Any people found guilty of engaging in such despicable activity is to be beaten to death with rocks publicly. Once fear is re-instilled into these freaks again it will put an and to this disgusting epidemic of sodomy. Not only will homosexuals perverts be forced to keep their abominations behind closed doors, it will also massively reduce the number of children they are able to molest and it will massively reduce the number of people they are able to recruit to their filthy evil lifestyle.

Leviticus 20:13

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Damn you can tell it went straight to sleep

The only solution the worked was the old way, where it wasn't tolerated at all or given any special rights, rewards, surgeries or any attention other than disgust and violence.

Burt no, somehow fucking trannies got to tag along with gays bis and lesbians as they fought for rights.

And modern liberal retards and SJWs made it cool for some reason. It's the new "goth" to have some non-euclidean gender now.

But unlike the goth plague, social media will ensure that your period of rabidly asserting you are an polysexual agender otherkin will never be forgotten, and I look forward to rejecting your job applications after my routine search for hidden retarded on social media turns up that gem.

It is a hard topic to do and no blanket will work for everyone.

Ultimately, I've never cared about people who actually LOOK like women. I just find it odd that someone wants to have a beard, dress masculine, then demand to be called Sarah.

The other side of that is young women who are really what we would have just called TOMBOYS a few years ago want to be called Steve for wearing a flannel jacket and having short (for women) hair.

Nor do I really care about rather silly things like drag queens. Not my cup of tea, but they are having fun and that's mostly what it's about. It also celebrates extreme femininity/beauty (even if they are over-the-top with it) and that's not a bad thing, to me.

Issue is many of these people have fundamental brain problems chemically. The realm of internet diagnosis has made anyone remotely miserable with a tumblr account want to transition. We should be wary of giving people PERMANENT ALTERATIONS...which for most men means they become sterile.

To add to this: The VA recently approved horomones for use in patients with mental issues. This means someone COULD get it, but no one has so far. People were a bit outraged by this, but honestly if a pair of honking tits is what you require to stop having PTSD? Why should I care?

Ultimately, what you do with your life should be primarily your concern...not other peoples concerns. But don't be surprise when you show up looking like a bag of ass that a job doesn't want you to work there. You need to look professional like everyone else. Trannies who pass? yeah they'll do fine. But tumblerinas? lolno.

Transgenderism is cause by 2 possible problems.

1. Sexually molested causing confused trauma - male molested by male and think that just because they physically got off during molestation that they must be a girl. Also an explanation to homosexuality

2. Confused about the difference between sexual fetish and gender - wearing a skirt while fucking a bitch (cross dressing i guess) is their fetish but they think they must be a girl

These both cause metal trauma and cause them to become confused. These are just the common causes, i dont know the solutions

Also institutionalized feminism and a generation raised by single mothers leading to self-loathing men

Stop treating boys like girls to begin with.

2 years mandatory army training and farm work.

Reduce single mother households.

That last line: "a woman with a risque top was already attractive to me again. I felt like at the start of puberty again - it was quite magical!"

Cripes, I just realized I'd forgotten what that was like, you mean I can get that back?!

I fucking lost my shit a "non-euclidean gender" holy cripes, I'm stealing that.

All yours my man. Ultimately, sharing memes is what truly gives them value.

Anyone have commentary with tons of women on birth control affecting their natural desires for masculine men?

Or, lack of desire in masculine men, causing men to act and dress more feminine?

Picture related. American hunks, our most precious resource!

"army training"

6 years here... waste of time and money. Playing sports in highschool was more intense than airborne school.

that faggot won't be needing a coat where he is going

>pinochet's helicopter gender
WHOA!

I see you know exactly what you were.

You're right, however majority nowadays seems to be approaching transgender ideology from the standpoint of confusion associated with growing up or as a fashion/victim cred.

They need some sort of pill since they're simply delusional. I'm assuming none of them work at the moment so they need to produce one instead of cashing in on barbaric surgeries.

You're right that there is a real disorder. It's very much like Anorexia in that it is a real disorder that can be caused by social pressures.

But note how Anorexia is not treated by agreeing that the sufferer is fat and helping them starve.

If you go to /lgbt/ you'll find that there are alot of trans lesbians there. I mostly think that they are just people with internalized misandry. I won't say everyone but I can defenitely say that for some.

My response to trannies:

==You're sick.==
You need help. Instead of cutting off your dick or sewing your cunt shut, why don't you try, I don't know, taking some of the appropriate hormonal augmentation as per what you ARE, as opposed to what you FEEL LIKE as a direct result of your PSYCHOLOGICAL DISORDER.

Why is that trans people are so keen on altering their bodies instead of altering their minds?
Is it that you're afraid you won't be 'you' anymore once the problem is fixed, once your sickness is cured?
==You don't have to be afraid.==

Your whole argument falls apart from there - its not about changing your bodies to suit your mind, you should try changing your mind to suit your body.

We have technology.
You don't have to be sick anymore user.
We can help you, without any surgery at all.

==You are sick.==
You FEEL like something that you are NOT, and will NEVER be, BECAUSE YOU ARE SICK.
Instead of STAYING SICK and surgically/hormonally altering yourself to FEED INTO YOUR SICKNESS, you should get WELL, by taking hormonal augmentation that will OVERCOME YOUR SICKNESS and let you FEEL like what you ARE.


Face it OP...
You're just upset that people don't support you mutilating yourself for the sake of your psychological disorder, and instead urge you to take medication that will FIX THE PROBLEM.
(Its because you don't want to admit you have a problem. Like a fucking addict.)

but I never said I don't have a problem. This whole thread is about the final solution to the tranner problem.

INAH-3 size. This is what happens when you pretend science doesn't exist for your feelings. You lose solutions.

asdsa

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Reduce sugar intake, massive nationwide effort to locate and remediate BPA contamination, search out other estrogen like compounds in our environment and replace them with safe alternatives, test for and remove all hormones from municipal water, employ better prenatal care to monitor hormone levels in the womb.

>transgenderism
>implying it's a natural occurrence

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It should be treated as a mental disorder. Plenty of drugs which work for body dysmorphia work for gender dysphoria as well.

In any case, sex reassignment surgery should never be state funded, but if someone pays out of their pocket to get mutilated, who am I to argue.

this

Jesus, I havnt seen that image in about 5 years

Per their own logic and beliefs, gender doesn't actually exist... Gender in their mind's eye is beyond a physical construct which is why they can be born physically as a 'male' but really be a 'female'.

Now pause for a second and think about this.
> Gender doesn't exist.
> Wants to transition from something that doesn't exist (transgender)
... Contradiction

> Gender is beyond a physical construct
> Attempts everything in their power to reflect a 'female' or respectively physical archetype. Feels incomplete otherwise

... Contradiction

So, attempting to transgender (transition ones physical gender) when one doesn't believe in it (at least the physical body they reside in) ...

Highly passionate contradictory beliefs ...
Mental Disorder

At the end of the day we all have components of yin/yang... Masculine and feminine. This goes beyond our physical bodies. Attempting to resolve on one or the other in the physical is a fool's errand for they see not that what they seek already resides deep within them.

we have to kiss them until they snap out of their faggotry

transgender people don't believe that gender is a social construct

>What do you think is the proper solution to transgenderism?

Therapy and medication. Unfortunately, this won't happen because the Left has convinced Western civilization that being a transgender person is perfectly normal and there's nothing wrong with it.

fpbp

Extreme behavior therapy the kind that makes libtards cry because it backs of the fact that faggot and trans are mental illnesses that can be cured

This.

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maybe, just maybe, if a boy goes to a shrink because he wants to be a girl, the shrink should try and help to boy want to be a boy instead of dosing him on HRT meds and cutting his nuts off

just maybe

It's mostly just a fad. There is a very small number of people with genuine gender dysphoria, a very large number of "actually I identify as non-binary demisexual" SJW fuckwits who do it because they think it's cool and anyway don't take hormones or mutilate their genitals (they just dress up and dye their hair), and a number of sexually frustrated and confused young men who convince themselves they'll get more attention if they look and act more like girls (encouraged by the SJW fuckwits).

Before too long all the made-up gender identities will be passe and the latter two groups will largely disappear - some will kill themselves (many of these would have anyway) but most will just grow out of it.

My son wants to be the incredible Hulk. Can I give him testosterone?

Give him HGH and growth factor. Two scoops eight times a day. 12 hours on arms.
Leave humanity behind. Goddammit!

give that lil nigga some HGH

Life is suffering, suffer well

yes. do this!

There's no solution to mental illness that makes you think your body is not yours.

There is a solution to the consequences that come out of spiraling out of control trying to make sense of that mental illness: just stop fucking encouraging it. Literally all tranny problems in life would go away instantly if they are just taught to respect social conventions and not to make a big deal about what they feel. The bullying for trannies is no more than bullying for being short or dumb or black or literally anything in certain groups that has disadvantages. If a dude makes a huge fucking deal of their disadvantage (or advantage), they get btfo. And you can't correct that nearly as easily as getting people on the same page about keeping your differences to yourselves in public.

It's a spectrum. The vast majority of trannies are just weirdos who don't fit in anywhere or feel right about their bodies. Turning them all into circus freaks who need to be treated like helpless animals is going to make everyone feel like shit on every side. Yeah docs stand to make a quick dollar or two knowing there's not enough evidence to actually help any of them.

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The Poos make them join this special caste and then they make their living begging and entertaining at weddings.

I suggest banishing them to Las Vegas and make them work as prostitutes and singers.

based swedebro fpbp.

Medifag here. In Italy sexual dysphoria is a recognized psychiatric disorder. BUT sex change surgery is considered the last resort treatment. Psyco-cognitive therapy is the first treatment. If that fails, proper psychiatric treatment (with the use of proper psychoactive drugs ) is the second step.
The whole objective is to make the patient to feel ok with his/her body. If everything fails, then the patient get surgical TREATMENT. Only a very small fraction of patients reach that point.

My guess is that the transgenderism problem comes from private health care: the patient pays for the operation so who cares if normal treatment could be enough? Money before doctor ethics! Not counting people who undergo surgery because of hypochondriac disorder or munchausen disorder.
Then you get people with a NON TREATED problem plus the issues due to the sex change... of course things turn into shit!

Pimozide.

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>the surgery
>sex reassignment
I find it somewhat ironic that these procedures often result in (effectively) sterilization of the subject.
I mean, if I never new the actual situation, I would assume that sterilization for trannies is actually some sort of horrible, unthinkable practice of insanely authoritarian regime, not something that is used as a TREATMENT for gender dysphoria.

Is it really worth it to save trans from suicide if it takes all that to make them productive? In your personal opinion are they better off afterwards or is it just a lost cause?

This.

Transgender movement is what happens when a mentally ill person gets stuck in an echo chamber that tells them the solution is HRT and/or surgical. Once they begin down this path there is no going back, pretty much like homosexuality, once you lose your ass cherry there is no getting it back.

It's a lifestyle and supporting cast that affirms degeneracy.

This.

sterilization is incidental not the goal. But most have no intention of having biological children anyway. How can you even if you're married to a man and have male genetals (or at least chromosomes). The vast majority just kill themselves before that even becomes a problem. The ones that don't either use a surogate or try to adopt.

This.

Should have joined the Marines then

>sterilization is incidental not the goal.
I assure you that 95%+ of the "horrible transphobic bigots" don't really give a damn what the "sales spin" is — as long as the end result is sterilization for trannies.
Heck, it feels like the left-wing pro-trannies "free surgeries for everyone" activism is actually a hard-right conspiracy at it's core.

The point is that most of them are not trans at all ant their problem can be actually treated with a small effort. They THINK they want to change sex while their problem is of a different nature. Plus surgery costs are covered by taxpayers so you don't want to slice 'n dice people at random.

Only people who will benefit from surgery will undergo the operation (it's the risks / benefits ratio evaluation).

Having said that, lost causes still exist there is no much we can do about it...

Too many on Sup Forums conflate social marxist talking points with the beliefs of actual transgender people. A male-to-female transsexual knows that their sex is not female. Puberty was uncomfortable for them. The development of secondary sexual characteristics was uncomfortable for them. Orchiectomy and hormone treatments alleviate that discomfort. When something works, you call it effective. In the majority opinion here, the preferable solution is the prevention of that discomfort in the first place, but there is no effective treatment for that. Actual transsexuals, believe it or not, support the gender binary; they support typical gender roles. They just want to play for the other team. This is why in extremely traditional and conservative societies like Iran, and Pakistan, you see more support for transsexuals than for homosexuals--because they are trying to blend in with the norms of society.

I get your point then. Makes sense.

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>Pimozide.
Academia-tier shitposting.