The second U.S. civil war is inevitable. Lines have been drawn in the sand by both sides involved that will inevitably intersect and lead to open conflict.
The Cause: The United States of America was founded on traditions, ideals and principles of Freedom. All nations are in their own way great, but America is the greatest not because of it's military conquests or later economic power, but because its foundation gave the ordinary person something he had never had in the history of mankind: actual freedom and equality under the law.
Recognizing this there will always be a small, hardcore group of American citizens that value their Rights and Freedoms, and can point to countless irrefutable documented facts of powerful forces attempting to subvert those very Freedoms to pursue their own agenda.
At some point the tyranny will become too much, a series of Waco-like events perpetrated by the outlaw government will set the country into war. The enemy knows this, which is why there hasn't been anything like Waco since.
The Sides: In all likelihood it will be Patriot Militias fighting a guerilla warfare strategy against tyrannical government forces possibly even with NATO help. There is rumored to be a proper command system in place for the Patriot side called the Second Continental Army of the Republic or S.C.A.R. This military organization is said to be staffed by competent ex high ranking US military members. The only way to join S.C.A.R. is by invitation only, after exhaustive intelligence gathering on said unit. The best and most serious militia units are those not known to the media or authorities.
The Outcome: If the Patriots win the civil war, which will be very long and costly, then humanity has a chance at restoring the Constitution of the United States and all the principles it stands for. This means over 90% of all laws would be repealed. There will be no welfare of any kind. There will be no subsidies for industries of any kind.
Well hurry it the fuck up. I'm getting older and fatter by the day, and care even less about this shit more and more.
Adrian Williams
man I wanna join SCAR that sounds dope
Jackson Butler
Our police is equipped better than your military. Our military is equipped better than you can possibly imagine. Our heavily armed civilian population has a strong loyalty to the police and the military.
>Our police is equipped better than your military. Dont care >Our military is equipped better than you can possibly imagine Technology isn't everything, shows your lack of military knowledge desu. >Our heavily armed civilian population has a strong loyalty to the police and the military. There will be a great many people on the fence when the time comes. Remember that geurilla warfare is about public opinion just as much as about fighting. If the Patriots can maintain the moral highground it will gain support. Also remember something like
Jayden Kelly
The US constitution is the most worthless piece of garbage ever written. They really need to get rid of it and write a completely new one.
Dylan Rivera
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Bentley Martinez
America was founded on globalist and degenerate capitalistic policies and enlightenment ideals of individualism. These ideologies combined to make the world the most degenerate its been. If there were a civil war in america it would be a race war. Nato can't be involved if the entire global hegemoney funded by the US comes to a standstill.
Cameron Diaz
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Grayson Williams
>you're gonna have your own troubles soon
Tyler James
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Michael Jackson
not an argument
Gabriel Bennett
You are so misinformed. Capitalism freed and advanced the poorest of the world to a level that would be considered wealthy 1000 years ago. There won't be a race war.
Mason Kelly
Capitalism has led to nothing but global amorality and greed that we see today and that everyone here complains about. Its the most jewable system out there besides communism itself. Technological advancement is the only good thing to come out of it, and you don't need pure capitalism for that to happen. The prime form of technological competition is between countries, but capitalisms end goal is globalism which elminates that,
Jonathan Hall
>The enemy knows this, which is why there hasn't been anything like Waco since.
Nah, the war will start as a low level sectarian conflict between hard left and hard right elements until the economy collapses at which point the killing will escalate to insane levels.
Charles Nelson
you're mistaking Corporatism with Capitalism, sadly it's a common mistake.
We are in a Corporatist economy right now, not a Capitalist society.
Joshua Reyes
Saw a 6'5 300 lb ex soldier with a bulldog ptsd dog. He aint no liberal faggot.
Elijah Sanchez
Yeah and a pure capitalist society would be 400 times worse in every single way. America is the best historical comparison and its appeal to capitalism has been the undoing of the world culturally and morally.
Ryan Martinez
>Outcome
China invades from the East, Europe from the West, Russia from the North.
John Phillips
well this is why "Judeo-Christian Capitalism" is needed.
Ignore the descriptor of "Judeo-Christian" as it refers to morals in Europe during this time.
What they're describing is National Socialism.
Robert Morris
I can't wait
Kayden Moore
John Titor wants his memes back. But seriously, I'm pretty sure you're right. My money's on Red Team. The US won't look the same afterwards. It'll probably lose the north east, but I fancy them to hold California despite being vastly outnumbered. Californians get a lot of hate on Sup Forums but actual Californians are pretty based and good outdoorsmen.
Oliver Nguyen
Judeo Christian capitalism is an oxymoron. If theres such a lack of government intervention than morals are almost impossible to maintain. The US was full of fucking puritans at one point now its one of the most degenerate countries because theres was no means to maintain morals.
Jordan Rodriguez
>Be Afghani sheep herders with tatters for clothing and rusty AK-47s >BTFO the Soviet Forces >BTFO the US Forces
Surely, millions of patriots with access to CNC machining and modern NV/FLIR couldn't put up any resistance.
Luis Martin
Oh look it's another "leaf knows America better than Americans" thread. Fuck off you nigger and stop acting like you know our neighbors better than themselves.
Nathan Mitchell
>2nd US Civil War is Inevitable >Inevitable >a fucking leaf
Zachary Long
please reread, I described where the term came from and what it is describing vs what you just said because your autism is to strong to comprehend other thoughts that are not your own.
Gabriel Collins
>Surely, millions of patriots with access to CNC machining and modern NV/FLIR couldn't put up any resistance.
The Afghan knows how to live off of the land he lives on, what does the average Murrican do when the supply of food is cut off? Die.
Caleb Johnson
Wrong
Camden Walker
Who is describing national socialism?
This
Jordan Thomas
Steve Bannon, he referred to it as "Judeo-Christian Capitalism" in an interview. But what he was describing was National Socialism.
Henry Garcia
fpbp
Jose Rodriguez
Socialist detected. I bet you voted for Bernie faggot. Out the helicopter you go.
Benjamin Baker
I think so too. It's going to be the Americans vs. the NSA/CIA/toddler fucker types. Hammer to skull.
Dominic Clark
>le average american would be the rebels we're talking about
wrong. the people who would be actually fighting are not the super market sheeple you're thinking of. We don't advertise what we're capable of because of shit like what we're talking about.
Connor Wright
Well i'd need to hear more about what that encompasses to see if it holds true.
I'm a national socialist have fun with your societal decay and realizing your ideology is just utopian socialism but on the opposite end of the spectrum.
Brayden Gomez
Can't w8 for number 8 m8.
Thomas Garcia
Name me any society in history that was not affected by greedy individuals.
Capitalism uses the natural greed of individuals to help other individuals. The only way to succeed in capitalism is to provide a product or service somebody else wants and is willing to pay for. One mans gain is not another mans loss.
You have a lot of researching to do if you really believe the world was made worse by capitalism.
Huge monopoly companies are a problem, but they are the way they are largely due to government stepping in and making laws and regulations that largely keep smaller competitors from rising up because the price just to get in is so high only the monopoly corporation already worth billions can afford to stay in business.
Carson Ortiz
>consumer still has choice in product >money still exists >there is still an economy >government prevents monopolies >government takes care of medical needs >government is still handsoff for mom & pop stores
Jeremiah Murphy
I could see a coup happening, but a civil war is wildly unrealistic, and incredibly stupid given the global climate.
Anthony Green
Thanks for adding such an enlightening contribution to the discussion.
Jason Lopez
stop making shit up leaf
go roleplay somewhere else
William Russell
>America is the greatest WRONG. America is not great. Not even a little. Where do you think MAGA came from? But then, what would a tree-fellating cuck like you know about greatness anyway?
Charles Morris
america has a strong outdoors and survivalist culture, stop projecting ya eurocuck
Blake Bennett
t. marxist
Alexander Gomez
Huge monopoly companies would be even more of a problem without government intervention.
I'm not a commie, i believe a market economy is still the best but you need to have government intervention to make sure greed doesn't take precedence over morals. In a purely capitalist system there is no way to enforce any type of morality on the broadened population.
Noah Flores
I wouldn't say so. California would be burned to the ground from denial of water & vast amounts of arson.
Logan Kelly
I believe this. If you're an avid outdoorsmen and trained in a militia unit in your area, you likely know the surrounding terrain very well. If an enemy unit comes in from outside the state in a warfare situation you already have an advantage they do not.
Michael Lopez
Wrong. Every corporation of any large size has teams of lobbyists that sit in offices in Washington DC whos sole job is to constantly lobby for political favors.
Give me an example of a good government interference in the economy.
The key to stopping monopolies is competition.
Jordan Walker
>Le 1% survivalists and preppers
Easily dealt with, in fact the super market sheeple will take care of them - once the super market is empty, within a week because just in time delivery, the cities will turn to cannibalism.
Henry Ortiz
>Give me an example of a good government interference in the economy.
usps, snap
Eli Lee
>Wrong. Every corporation of any large size has teams of lobbyists that sit in offices in Washington DC whos sole job is to constantly lobby for political favors. Yeah but it was still prevalent before that.
>Give me an example of a good government interference in the economy. Being able to stop companies from selling product based on degeneracy. The ability to shut down a dildo store or shut down a subversive movie.
>The key to stopping monopolies is competition. Then why were monopolies so prevalent in the gilded age which is arguably the closest thing to pure capitalism that the US has had?
Bentley Rogers
t. eurocuck who knows absolutely nothing about America and argues based off of stereotypes
whew lad
Angel Butler
>The ability to shut down a dildo store or shut down a subversive movie.
first amendment you infantile retard
Alexander Reed
>usps
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>snap
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Dylan Davis
>There is rumored to be a proper command system
lel
Nathan Wilson
that's how they'd hold it.
with the chaos that would stem in the major cities the cali govt would want to secure those locations, that creates a vacuum for militias.
The destruction of farmlands would take very little time to accomplish during this vaccum, and that really means the rioting and looting hasn't even started yet.
The greatest weakness of California is Californians (excluding the militia types)
Henry Reyes
not the user you were replying to, just someone whos watching your debate closesly. laughing isnt an argument tho. refute his two examples or commit suicude please and thank you (:
Benjamin Richardson
We will never see a revolution or civil war in a developed nation in this day and age where the majority of people's wants and needs are met.
People will talk the talk, but when it comes down to it no one is going to give up their cushy lifestyles. For instance, a left-wing professor spends all day talking about the ills of the system, but they will never risk losing their well-paid position and actually follow through on what they preach.
It would take a catastrophic, game-changing event for anything like that to happen in the developed world; something that would cause living standards to drop dramatically.
Kayden Cruz
it wont be tyrannical govt to start it, it will be the political polarization and punch a nazi antifa and such. And when it happens will most likely be a tight election 2020 or 2024 and the military will split up to their respective sides
Noah Ward
Will Kansas be ok?
Lucas Barnes
seeyou have no fucking idea what you're talking about. Good.
Thomas Lopez
the postal service delivers to every mailbox in the united states and is consistently faster and cheaper than usps, and especially fedex, which is total garbage. i ship out a lot of packages every single week and usps is unmatched in it's ability to provide timely, cost-effective service.
snap is 97% efficient and rates of snap fraud are sub 2%.
i understand that you're quite stupid, and probably a teenager, but some of us have been around long enough to actually research and learn about these programs rather than shitposting on Sup Forums about welfare queens and how government everything is bad.
grow the fuck up.
Aiden Ward
His question wasn't specifically regarding the US but just a good example of government interference overall.
Lucas Young
>S.C.A.R. excellent roleplay
Josiah Bailey
Technically, the War for Southern Independence was not a civil war. It was a tyrannical government acting to prevent states from exercising their right to leave the union. In a civil war 2 factions within a government are fighting for control of the government. The south didn't want to take over the government of the United States, they just wanted to leave. Hence, not really a civil war.
Cooper Butler
The ones who will starve are the weak people who live in liberal cities. It will just save us some ammo.
Brayden Morales
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Alexander King
Do you intend to supply American cities with food from innawoods dear /k/ommando? You realize the USAs urbanization rate is 85 %, that's 270 million people who depend on super markets and who have 0 food gathering skills because they've never seen a field or fruit bearing tree in their life.
No1 killer in Leningrad was starvation, the rest made it through by eating the dead.
Josiah Martin
nice fanfic leaf, you had me up until
>SCAR
I bet they'll twirl their saturday morning cartoon villain mustaches as they reinstate the constitution too.
I also can't wait for the PR shitshow when it gets pointed out the original constitution wouldn't let women vote and counted blacks as 3/5 of people. Freedom for only rich white people won't work without a mass genoicide, and that's not gonna really work if 75% of the population opposes you.
If anything it'll probably end with someone seizing the nukes and then we get a nuclear wasteland instead of some literalist constitutional utopia. Gj SCAR, see ya next Saturday.
Jonathan Cox
I'll screencap this for when people ask me why i believe there should be a Canadian genocide.