Why do unions suck so terribly?

>Be my former UPS driver
>Bust your ass for 31 years on the job
>Finally get hurt, injure lower back, in constant pain
>Union says "You can only see our doctor we recommend and get treatment he suggests, otherwise, you pay the whole treatment yourself"
>Shitty quack says surgery on lower back the "only option", won't offer any other treatment suggestions
>Talk with driver about it before he goes under the knife, tell him I fixed a similar issue surgery-free with DRX decompression therapy, will cost him about $2k out of pocket, but no surgery, no downtime, feel 100% for past 5 years since
>Driver says "But then I have to pay for it, they'll pay for the surgery, and I trust them on this, my union looks out for the workers"
>Gets lower back surgery
>Worse off than before, in more pain than ever
>Union says "Oops, I guess that's that"
>Wouldn't do shit to protect his job
>Loses position at UPS because he's out of commission for 6 months before he can even do desk work, they won't do him any favors despite pushing him into this mess
>Now can only work at Home Depot doing non-physical shit because his back is perma-fucked
>Was 3 years out from full retirement at UPS, so couldn't get full benefits despite over 30 years of service
>Hates his life now

This guy was one of the GOOD immigrants whose family came here and all gained citizenship, and his own union buttfucked him by pushing him into risky surgery instead of allowing any alternate treatment.

Fuck unions, no matter how much any cunt swears they're "protecting the worker", they're only protecting their bosses and the money they drain off that makes shit more expensive.

congrats you've finally figured out that the only thing unions are after is their own self-interest

Because corporatism reigns in the land of the goy. You're retarded if you join a "union". They are all run by crooks.

>americans
>complaining about unions

Oh, my sweet summer child
Come hither, take a seat and I'll show you the wonderful world of Australian unions

Oh, I was already aware, just didn't have a story from anyone I knew personally until recently. All it did was confirm that unions suck as badly as I'd always heard.

Union carpenter here.
Suck my cock, retard.
Get a real job, dipshit.
Go concern troll somewhere else, fag.

Protip: If you ever buy a home make sure it was built by white union men and not a crew of filthy wetbacks who piss in your walls and fuck up the water proofing on purpose so you get to live in a black mold death trap.

>real job

You mean, like the 2 companies I own and operate that provide a dozen well-paying jobs locally?

Fuck your gay union, they'll kick you to the fucking curb in a heartbeat once you're of no use to them.

Kek @ you actually thinking your union has your interests at heart, they just want your dues and your allegiance, but beyond that, trust me, they think you can go fuck yourself.

>union cocksucker here
>"white unions"
wew laddy

Go eat a sack of baby dicks faggot. unions are trash, period. Your anecdotal evidence doesn't reverse or somehow make untrue all of the facts to the contrary.

unions are literally gommunism and gommunism never works

>Union says "You can only see our doctor we recommend and get treatment he suggests, otherwise, you pay the whole treatment yourself"
UPS has insurance plans you dumb cuck. He wouldn't have to visit the Union's official 'doctor' or whatever unless he wants to sue the company or something and wants the Union on his side
>Worse off than before, in more pain than ever
Chances are that his doctor told him that he really shouldn't go back to being a UPS driver after the surgery, no matter how long he waited, because of how risky it would be. So either he did it regardless of his advice or you're bullshitting.
>Wouldn't do shit to protect his job
There's not much they could do if he's permanently unable to resume being a delivery driver, besides for maybe trying to get him a ground supervisor role at the depot (which I believe would still require a bunch of lifting, and would likely pay much less with a lot less benefits) or some office job there (which many of which are logistic and IT related that they really couldn't just transfer him unless he has the certifications and experience).
>and his own union buttfucked him by pushing him into risky surgery instead of allowing any alternate treatment.

It was UPS that butt-fucked him during this ordeal. The only fault of the Union is arguably not being as expansive enough and diligent. Without the Union, he would probably get butt-fucked anyways with working irregular dynamic shifts, being forced to use his own gear, and likely get hired as a 'contractor-driver' instead of a employee one backed by a Union. People at the top in business like UPS, whose survival comes down to counting every single bean regarding logistics and finances and trying to cheapen it, are so disconnected to their workers that they have no problem ass-raping them over if they had the chance (which they always do in most cases). Just look at Amazon as a similar example.

>make laws that force union members to swear they aren't socialists or get fired
>wonder why unions suck
Don't call it a grave. It's the future you chose. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Fuck unions. I piss in your wife's mouth when you're at work. Then she eats my asshole clean before you come home and give her a kiss.

>be welder
>union apprentices start out at $26/hr
>non-union demands years of experience before you can even pass $20/hr

Fuck off OP, you just have a shitty union. Oh boo hoo, the unions only care about themselves, just like the corporations. Still better pay and benefits by far.

>UPS has insurance plans you dumb cuck.

Dude was injured on the job, said he reported it to the union, they would ONLY cover treatment they authorized. So go fuck yourself.

>There's not much they could do to protect his job

Oh, so he pays dues for 31 years and they can't work to help migrate him to a non-physical position in another department? Nice to know that the "protection" is pure bullshit.

He said it was his union that made him take the course he did for treatment and are the ones he blames for how things ended. I'll take his word over yours.

>be welder
You're full of shit. Post your union and prove you're not lying. I'm a Structural Welder contracting for HII and their is NO benefit for joining their union. PROVE your not a larping faggot but posting your union. I know from experience that Unions do not offer better pay. They may help you get work but they can not dictate higher pay.

>you just have a shitty union.

You think I'd ever work anywhere that union membership was required?

Get the fuck outta here, I left being a wagecuck on my 25th birthday, celebrating my 18th year of freedom of working for myself next month.

Nice try, tho.

Unions are literal commie hell holes

He was arguing against other anecdotal evidence.

Just like you'll do to any employee who isn't of use to you.

Without unions, you'd be working 80 hours a week for 25 cents an hour and be in debt to the company store for the rest of your miserable life. Americans who shit on unions should be deported to a place that doesn't have them. The decline of the middle class in the US is directly tied to the decline of unions.

In other words, you took better pay and lifetime of benefits including pension, annuity and whatever else you got, couldn't save up 2 grand to pay for a life saving treatment and blame the union.

you are just wrong. Unions have never operated in the manner they were advertised to in the US. The wages rose as a result of the lower number of males in the work force as a result of the mass culling of WW1 and WW2 . Not because the rise of unions. The unions in the US worked against the worker by maintaining wages at a level that was commensurate with what the employers wanted. They have always been controlled by the Employers in the US and the mobs. You have a infants level understanding of the way the economy functions. You are probably a public school graduate with an IQ sub 90.

At least he pays his employees. The unions expect you to pay them for the privilege of getting reamed up the ass