Is it traitorous to the American identity to be anything other than a protestant?

I'm really interested in the Orthodox church, but am a very proud American who believes strongly in assimilation and uniformity in values and beliefs

is it wrong to be Orthodox in America, after being a Protestant country for so long?

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>Implying America isn't a shitskin-riddled hellhole where the last thing you need to worry about is your religion
Are you posting this from 1860?

i won't let those 1860 values die

we've got to be better than the rest of them m8

There are some traditional Protestant churches that broke with the Communion (when they started with the women priests I think) that you could look into

I'm very interested in LCMS, or maybe even some Calvinists if i could find them

I want some honest traditionalism, protties are fine as long as it's not this weird reformed stuff

If you believe in uniformity then definitely rejoin the catholic and apostolic church

As long as you're some kind of Christian you're good.
America is for Christians of whatever faith. We don't fight among ourselves like muslims.

>swapping one heresy for another
kys

Lifelong LCMS reporting in

Ask away OP

Orthodoxy is bad. Stick to Protestantisam or Catholicism

Yes Chad, keep going to sunday school, you'll be much happier, trust me. Also keep donating to Israel.

Any sort of acknowledgement of political-religious hierarchies is Un-American.

Although at least you're not Catholic.

>Be protestant.
>Get minorities to sustain your birth rate.
Choose 2

>be protestant
>contradict the church fathers
You can't deny this

How sectarian is LCMS? I've got a lot of family there, but my immediate family was (from what I was told) ostracised at my grandfather's funeral because my parents are just general Protestants.

Were they just a bad apple?

Yes
But American identity isn't worth preserving so it's fine

Become a Mormon. It's the most American form of Christianity. Also, the women are amazing and very traditional.

They're amazing neighbors, but they're no Christians

The only sectarianism I've experienced is hatred for Mormons. Atheists, gays, muslims, jews, etc... get a pass. We're actually pretty big on the new testament.

I was taught to respect a man of conviction, however that might manifest. The Mormon thing was about resentment against snake oil salesmen capitalizing on peoples genuine desire for a higher purpose.

It's aa American as apple pie to be circumcised and to circumcise your kids and do things for Israel

But yeah it beats being a papist huh? :^)

34;54 - 38:42
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Its also as American as baseball to build huge money temples (megachurches) while criticizing supposedly grandiose churches like Notre Dame de Paris

mormons are not christian

eh, while its not fighting there are a lot of little squabbles that i feel I weaken the faith as a whole in the nation.

That business with your grandfather's funeral is genuinely fucked up dude. In January my family got together to bury my aunt (a lifelong lesbian) and we were pretty free with the gospel of John. I feel pretty confident knowing that in my father's house there are many rooms.

If you're on the fence about protestantism, read the gospels and make a decision after that. That's our canon.

It's also as American as hotdogs to bring up Catholic scandals but quickly sweep under the rug protesta - I mean the church of America scandals

Southern Baptist is the way to go; just be careful about which church you pick. Some go a little too far to the right, others are starting to become cucked over. The good news is there's usually at least 2-3 on every street corner in the south so there's plenty of options. Just hope you like krispy kreme and chick-fil-a though.

Not even.

Dr Kellogg thrust this circumcision bullshit on us relatively recently.
I won't have my children circumcised.

whatever you do, do not remain a Protestant. its basically heresy werewolves

Uh-Oh look out everybody! It's Britirenaeus! The most annoying Cathocuck on Sup Forums.

Honestly dude, you don't miss a single thread. You have to be paid. You have to be. You and the other Orthodox Recruiters on this site have to be paid.

There's simply no other explanation.

But "aint it biblical n shieet to circumcised yo child n shieet?"

Mormon's, while generally good people from my experience here on the East Coast, are heretics through and through. Its a stretch to call them Christians.

Protestantism is a jewish play. Ever notice how the biggest goy zionist are protestants?

go orthodox, trust me it is worth it

All the early Christians contradict protestantism

That's a fact

Southern baptist girls are so fucking hot desu
i went to the south of the USA last year
NGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
so many brown eyed blonde haired cuties

South of USA is highest rate of black porn

Literally the same tired script over and over and over and over. In every thread.

How much is the Vatican paying you? I mean, for fuck's sake man, it gets tiring after a while.

Are you a bot? Are you a seminary student who grew up with the internet and has too much time on his hands? I'd ask you if you were intelligence but your arguments are too retarded. Do you simply work for a paid marketing company, reading off a script and making $11 an hour?

No joke, you're here every day. Every single day with the same script.

It's just...embarrassing...

"Those, therefore, who desert the preaching of the Church, call in question the knowledge of the holy Priests, not taking into consideration of how much greater consequence is a religious man, even in a private station, than a blasphemous and impudent sophist. Now, such are all the heretics, and those who imagine that they have hit upon something more beyond the truth, so that by following those things already mentioned, proceeding on their way variously, inharmoniously, and foolishly, not keeping always to the same opinions with regard to the same things, as blind men are led by the blind, they shall deservedly fall into the ditch of ignorance lying in their path, ever seeking and never finding out the truth. It behoves us, therefore, to avoid their doctrines, and to take careful heed lest we suffer any injury from them; but to flee to the Church, and be brought up in her bosom, and be nourished with the Lord’s Scriptures. For the Church has been planted as a garden in this world; therefore says the Spirit of God, 'Thou mayest freely eat from every tree of the garden' that is, Eat ye from every Scripture of the Lord; but ye shall not eat with an uplifted mind, nor touch any heretical discord." - AH, 5, 20, 2


Can protestants explain?

You can't even prove me wrong

Deal with it

why should I give a shit

why did he say this?

Because you are a loser

Man if you're talking about christian traditions, orthodox is the ONLY one that saved nearly ALL (over 95%) of them.

Considering the only mention in the US constitution makes to religion is to keep it the fuck out, no. No it is not.

There they are again. It's unbelievable. You're like a clock. You must be working off a script.

I've proven you wrong, time and time and time again. And every time I have something you don't have an answer for, you just ignore.

You behave like a Jew, tbqhwyfam. In fact, I think you are a Jew (I mean, you're a Catholic so you're a Jew-lite). But I mean a REAL Jew. Sent here to divide.

The plot thickens.

>american orthodox
Why? Orthodoxy is tied to nation, if you aren't greek/east slav/romanian/armenian/etc you won't find a communiy

You didn't. You can't even demonstrate how Irenaeus approves of sola scripture and sola Fide

I in contrast did and even destroy protestant misrepresentations of the church fathers

Deal with it

It's traitorous to Christ to identify as a protestant.

/thread

>be protestant
>faced with actual citations from early Christians
>must be a bot
PRODDIE logic

Notice how ZERO PRODDIE could even offer a response to my quotes from Irenaeus?

"Since therefore we have such proofs, it is not necessary to seek the truth among others which it is easy to obtain from the Church; since the Apostles, like a rich man [depositing his money] in a bank, lodged in her hands most copiously all things pertaining to the truth: so that every man, whosoever will, can draw from her the water of life. For she is the entrance to life; all others are thieves and robbers. On this account are we bound to avoid them, but to make choice of the thing pertaining to the Church with the utmost diligence, and to lay hold of the Tradition of the truth. For how stands the case? Suppose there arise a dispute relative to some important question among us, should we not have recourse to the most ancient Churches with which the Apostles held constant intercourse, and learn from them what is certain and clear in regard to the present question? For how should it be if the Apostles themselves had not left us writings? Would it not be necessary, [in that case,] to follow the course of the Tradition which they handed down to those to whom they did commit the Churches?" - AH, 3, 4, 1 [emphasis mine]

Sola Scriptura BTFO by IRENAEUS

No Protestant can explain

>not Mormon but I went to college in Utah and then lived for 10 years in Utah after college. I'm familiar with the Mormons in the teachings of their church

> The Mormons believe ridiculous things.

> however it's not any more ridiculous than any other religion, or to be more specific any other Christian denomination. If you did not grow up around a particular religion and find out about it later on you're going to find it ridiculous

>with all of that being said. Mormons are the only religion in America who have their shit together.

they don't have:
> Cringy youth counselors and pastors all tattooed up with lip rings and blue hair trying to act hard core while teaching you about the love of Jesus Christ.
> they don't have people in it for the money because no one gets paid, not the bishop, or anyone in church leadership, even the church cleaners are volunteer workers (unless you work in the main church administration in salt lake and even then they don't offer high salaries)
> they do not offer sanctuary for pedophiles or illegal immigrants. if you confess to a catholic priest that you raped a child, the priest is there to offer forgiveness and maybe try to convince you to call the cops depending on the priest. The Mormons will not hesitate to call the cops and will not be there to help you gain forgiveness until you confess to the authorities

For mormons, It is very hard to be an active member in good standing
> you have to stay away from alcohol drugs cigarettes and porn
> The main goal for a Mormon man is to produce a lot of children and be able to provide for them without your wife having to work
> they don't believe that believing is enough. They feel that the way to a good afterlife is by works. Meaning you have to be a good person that does good things.
> most importantly they teach you to Obey the laws of the land regardless of what country you're in

> Plus they have the most conservative members of any church in America.

Where did you get the idea America is strictly "Protestant"?

Most people say it's "Christian" (like it or not) and leave it at that.

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Fuck no man, it's perfectly acceptable. Hell I'd probably say it's better than being a limo wristed Protestant.

Daily reminder Orthodox Christianity is one of the few remnents of the (eastern) Roman Empire.

fact: Protestantism contradicts the early church fathers

Yet again, implying I'm supposed to give a shit what a priest in 4th century Lyon, France had to say about my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

Dude, I'm honestly not getting into this with you again. I've done it too many times.

You're a Jew. Plain and simple.

You're literally typing the same shit from last night. And the night before. And the day before that. And a week ago. And the month before.

It's just so...tiring.

The orthodox church is the only church that isn't cucked.

Nigger, Irenaeus is 2nd century

You can't even understand the basics and you dare lecture me? Fuck you

Here you are simply making excuses and being an arrogant moron who ignores the christians that had to cope and deal with shit

why protestants hate early christian?

ah ha, there's the real Britirenaeus. Off script Britirenaeus is best Britirenaeus.

lol.

Have to go now. See you tomorrow Britirenaeus. Or tonight. Doesn't matter. You'll be here. Crazy, right?

In the mean time, maybe say a prayer to Christ rather than your Pagan and Jew Gods.

>cannot answer the argument time and time again
>makes excuses
Proddie logic 101

> mfw this ignorant dumbfuckery
> look at flag
> makes sense now

To be religious is traitorous to american identity, period. The founding fathers, the constitution, and the majority of american history is one of rejection of religion aside from the loony groups that pretty much everyone made fun of.

It was despised and abandoned, atheism was the majority.
Queue cold war and propaganda against the 'evil commies' (fuck communism though), and to create a bigger divide religious fervour was instilled in the generations, churches built, and suddenly everyone was hyper religious because commies were atheist, and they didnt want to have shit in common with the commies.

learn your own damn history, religiosity in the US is a relatively new phenomenon and contrary to everything the nation stood for since its inception.

Think about the other 1000 answers I've given you that you've completely ignored because it doesn't fit your script. You can't even speak English for fuck's sake. You're probably sitting in a Catholic version of a call center getting paid $3.50 an hour in Londonstan.

Fucking Jew.

catholic logic: interpretation > scripture

>none proved my point wrong
>none even addressed the argument
>no proof that the early church fathers actually believed in five solaes

PRODDIE btfo

Protestants BTFO in this thread, tradition is the reflection of community and therefor important so go with Catholicism based on that alone

Lots of cuckery in the Church too so check out FSSP, Opus Dei, SSPX, and various Eastern Rite churches

Read Moldbug's open letter for why hierarchy is natural and good

>be proddie
>the bible is easy to read
>who cares about the early christians
>all PRODDI contradict each other

"American identity" doesn't exist. America is not a nation. It's a multinational jewish empire/marketplace.

USA is the domain of satan.

>Some go a little too far to the right,
Not at all true. And kill yourself

Because the south is like 50% black.

Not at all. Maryland was founded in 1634 as a Catholic colony. The first settlement was named after the Blessed Virgin Mary. European Catholics have settled in America since before it was a nation.

Everyone is welcome to come here and worship Lord Jesus Christ in their own way, and defend that way with an AR-15. Muslims not welcome. Secular liberals not welcome. Deus Vult. Ave Maria.

I wouldn't go that far, user. Catholicism is still the biggest single denomination in America, just not as big as Protestantism as a whole. America has done a lot of good and a lot of evil but, has given us potential saints like Venerable Archbishop Fulton Sheen and servants of God like Mother Angelica, and more Bibles are printed here than anywhere else. This country is a spiritual battleground between the truth and God-forsakenness.