MGTOW

Sup Forums what do you think of mgtow, i personally think that is actually for cucks than can't get any girl.

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I never hear about them after 2013 or so, other than people calling them gay. Do you also hate emos?

I'm not even MGTOW though.

joining a movement is for cucks and attention seekers

its easy to subscribe to some ideals without joining a group and drinking the koolaid

MGTOW=Kike

>Sup Forums what do you think of mgtow, i personally think that is actually for cucks than can't get any girl.

Enjoy your roastie

Oh great time for MGTOW/woman hate thread number 800,000. What else is new.

>mgtow is for cucks
>non cucks would have the states gun put to their heads while they're forced to provide for their wife fucking a new night every other night

getting fit was the best thing i ever did, rejecting women after having been rejected by them for so long gives me immense satisfaction. if i need to cum i just jerk off.

i literally got off on the rejection for years before I finally met a female i liked

MGTOW is for men that can get girls, but can't keep them for whatever reason.

Get the fuck out of my country you good for nothing, thieving, illegal Mexican

It's pretty dumb. If you feel called to a life of celibacy, that's fine, but don't do it because you're angry at women.

That's not to say you should marry a trash woman either. There's very few good women left, but don't consider yourself MGTOW if you can't find one, just be patient.

You wouldn't *ever* love and trust any woman enough to get married? I get if you doubt you'll ever meet her or if you don't want to put effort into it. But MGTOW is kind of a pledge that you'll never do it and I don't get why. Why not leave it at maybe? You must have some pretty serious trust issues if you have to chose you'll never ever trust anyone like this. If you think all women are bad then the problem probably is you.

At least I have an excuse, I'm autistic, short and ugly. Still not MGTOW kek. And I've had a gf (quite a while ago though) and I know that some women are trustworthy (but the autism doesn't help with keeping them that way). Probably won't get married though.

Because autismo leafy, not only woulf most women make shit wives, the laws surrounding marriage and divorce are assbackwards. It's a trap. Woman can just leave with half your shit anytime they want, why would you take that risk?

if you're a man you can just dump ugly old wife and replace her with a newer model
is that fair?

Peter the disciple actually recommends not getting married if you don't have to. Easier to give more to God and do more to spread the gospel. However if you are doing it for selfish reasons you are a real piece of shit.

bunch of emotionally insecure plebians. They'd feel 100x better just going full homosex and sucking each other off.

not that their female counterparts are any better, the whole lot is a fecal encrusted poop storm lol

>losing half your wealth and children
>no big deal

If you're a woman you can just dump ugly beta husband and replace him with a newer model. And take his possessions too. And his money.

Is that fair?

Nope, never said it wasn't a big deal. Obviously it destroys your life.

The point was that both parties can be screwed over badly.

It's for men that don't want to reproduce for one reason or another. They might have given up but they can get out of the way of those of us who want to preserve European heritage.

I sympathize with mgtow I really do and the court system is utter bullshit so they are right in some regards however they believe that literally every woman is a bloodsucking parasite and that is just false no matter what the overarching generality is. Personally I've known some amazing woman and I believe that the role of man as a provider and woman as a nurturer is ordained of God and we should strive for that ideal no matter the circumstances of our day

Both parties? Women lose nothing

It's very rare for the women to lose out in the modern court system

kek. Heh. OK.
Working out was a pretty good decision for me too. Now I can lift heavy things. But I look scarier than before. Welp.
Also I'm healthier and I don't feel as much like shit all the time. Honesty it helps.

>most women
Yeah, most. Not enough good women for everyone. Far from enough.
Doesn't mean you can't get a good one though.
>the laws surrounding marriage and divorce are assbackwards
Yeah.
>It's a trap.
I think so. Divorce is an industry and the governments are eager to transfer resources from men to women, who are good consumers. There are many who profit from destabilizing the family unit it seems.
Doesn't have to be an issue for you though. No need to let society restrict your options if you find someone right.
I understand people not marrying because they didn't find the right person. What I don't understand is rejecting it unconditionally, no matter who with.
>Woman can just leave with half your shit anytime they want
What if she makes her own money? Most women want to marry up in status though, so that's a problem.
>why would you take that risk?
Honestly, the only way I could conceive of marriage making sense nowadays is that you'd love each others so much that divorce would be unthinkable and lead to murder-suicide. So that whole alimony thing would be a non-issue.

yeah, it's a question how much of your core values you should give up just because there are some lowlives trying to exploit them.

for instance you might say it's best to never help anyone because if everyone's selfish, nobody can be taken advantage of. But the overall society wouldn't be nice that way.

Cool, good luck bud

It's a white people thing.

the person initiating the breakup is usually the winner

>Sup Forums what do you think of mgtow,
Its literally a jewish plot to get white men to give up on their race and just play video games all day.

Are there legimate problems for men right now that need to be addressed like alimony? Of course. Is crying about it on the internet and running away from women like a bunch of beta cucks going to fix anything? Nope. All its going to do is make white women seek out black men more and men as the white male becomes more secluded and beta.

If you want to fix women then you need to go out of your way to redpill them and raise them properly to begin with.

But dont fall for this mgtow jewish cuck scam, its no different from feminists in the way its designed to destroy the white family and race.

Correct in their assertion that getting married in the current state is not worth it, though their "community" is dogshit

In Germany perhaps, but not in America. The US court system is infamous for screwing over innocent men just because the woman claimed she got raped. No evidence, no proof, just some journos and half your possessions tyvm.

I also think it's disgusting when the progressives pick a victim and then beat it to death like a dead horse. Marriage is one of those things.

marriage is also a core establishment in european society though. If you just scrounger around like some "no commitment" fag, it's hardly better.

TV goes against marriage. so if a woman watches TV, why marry her? its self fulfilling prophecy of divorce.

i don't think think that is necessarily "mgtow" rather than thinking.

>joining
Joining what? You either are a MGTOW or you aren't, there's no application form or club.

Yea idk how it is in Germany that's not how it works in the usa

Funny enough, we had a discussion on /k/ of all places on what the perfect wife materiel would be. We boiled it down to pretty much:
1. Shes religious, (preferably Christian) but not bat shit crazy religious
2. She has a sense of self worth. i.e. Takes care of herself not completely depended on you.
3. About the same height as you but a bit shorter
4. The most important one is that she understands that marriage is working like a team. If two people are making money, then the family is making money. There is no mine/hers you're a team you share what you have while doing what you must to keep it working.

Why do MGTOW's pretend they ever had the option to date women to begin with? Get back to your containment board you fucking autisms

If you don't plan on having kids and actually being a man, enjoy being a crazy old cat man that jacks off to cuck porn u castrated cuckolds.

This Theres no reason to join, you are either a cuck for the jews or you arent.

>Shes religious,
Have fun getting cucked. Religious women are much more likely to cheat or cuck you because their sexuality was repressed most of their life and they dont know how to control it

I can't speak for the state of Europe but in america getting married is like handing a woman a loaded gun and giving her the right to use it on you at any point in the rest of your life.
And in exchange you get fucking nothing except some mild tax breaks. The women is not then obligated to you in any way she wasn't before you got married, she just now owns half your shit and a huge chunk of your cash for the rest of your life, and can leave with it if she ever feels like it, which who the fuck knows if she will 10 years down the line.

I don't understand the hate towards mgtow

They're not incels, they're not virgins, all they're saying is that you shouldn't get married, it doesn't prohibit fucking someone in a bar, or even dating, just not getting married

Where the fuck do these people get the ideas that mgtows are some losers who can never get laid?

>A fucking leaf
If you would of kept reading, stay way from the bat shit crazy ones. Religious girls tend to be higher quality. Shoot for the one that has a respect for her religion but is open to others. Dont even bother with the ones that went to an all girls catholic school, are adopted by their grandparents and if your gut tells you that something is really off about her, there probably is

Its more white genocide, but not cucked. Most MGTOW lean right I think, and probably oppose the idea of trying to continue our civilization with another's children, even though the practice does lead to that end..

Things are really tough over here and it is starting to become really hard to support a wife let alone a family, I'll probably be a MGTOW for a decade and a half or so before I can get a wife.
People at my age are already getting married and breeding but as I look at how they are financially and psychology I tend to dislike the whole idea.

>Religious girls tend to be higher quality
>gets on her knees for a dead kike
>probably wants to mutilate the genitals of your baby boy
>will cuck you guaranteed
The key is to find a non religious no degenerate girl. Those are the only ones worth keeping.

Catholic girls are some of the kinkiest most degenerate sex deprived women i have ever met. When i used to visit a bdsm club like almost all the couples were catholic

(((mgtow)))

It's a Jewish plot for men who can't figure out why they're unappealing or who make terrible decisions.

They make legitimate arguments, but their solutions are largely worse that the problem.

m8, if some qt3.14 like that came to my house, i'd listen to everything she had to say about jesus. hell, i'd make her take the time to explain how much hair he had on his legs if it kept her around.

MTGOW is fucking infuriating. They realized how important not plaing your value on what women think of you is, and what do they do? Focus on self-improvement? Build the confidence and body to ask women out and use their masochistic tendencies to redpill them? No, they just shit the bed and cry about how terrible women are all day long.

MTGOW is what giving up looks like. It's fucking pathetic.

>Be me
>Catholic
>Every church girl is Luther or Protestant in city
>no sexy for poor dutch boy

I know this is a slider but what benefit does a man gain from marriage if he does not intend to have kids?

>4. The most important one is that she understands that marriage is working like a team. If two people are making money, then the family is making money. There is no mine/hers you're a team you share what you have while doing what you must to keep it working.
Yeah, that must be nice.

There's often something off with those MGTOW types. Yeah the divorce laws are shit, but their attitude seems off from the start.
>muh money
>muh half of my shit
Why are you ALREADY thinking of divorce before ever getting married. Do you really have no trust in your own judgement and ability to make something work? Maybe they're assholes and they know it, that's why.
You should doubt your own judgement a little though. Most women are terrible and society conspires against stable marriages. No need to completely generalize though.

Spousal rights and benefits for someone you want to spend the rest of your life with.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rights_and_responsibilities_of_marriages_in_the_United_States

Go to a nice, conservative (preferably Pentecostal) church. You might meet quite a few women like that. Although you'll have to be subtle, church isn't your personal dating playground, and the women are there to worship.

ideally, regular completely safe from std's sex with no fear of unfaithfulness and constant companionship so never lonely etc.

currenlty? jack shit. a couple small tax breaks maybe? companionship, but only when she wants it. give far more than you can hope to get

I use to think that way, but if your woman works for just 10 year & could save just 5k per year, then that could be invested at 10% in real estate to grow to about 1.2 mill by retirement.
The issue with MGTOW is that it require 1 man to make alot of money waist in random women but 2 people working can bring in even more money. If both are financially invested in the family then there's a better commitment. That & if you make ton of money what happens when you die, well you leave it to MGTOW of course.
avoiceformen.com has large collection anti-feminist women that truly inspiring.

Go find some mormon missionary's

this is very insulting advice. if I was alright with lying about my faith then I would be alright with modern women and their hedonism. I won't bend my principles in either direction. MGTOW

Was raised Mormon and had a bunch of friends in other religions. There are a few really good ones hiding in churches for sure. Wouldn't be hard to blend in at the very least. Thankfully i live in buttfuck nowhere so all the congregations are rather conservative.

>Oh look, 50% of marriages end in divorce
>YES PLEASE, sign me up ye boi
>Only plebs consider divorce before they get married. Not me, no sir. I won't worry about losing half my shit.

Ever notice how white men who marry white women are absoltuely miserable, whipped, and depressed?
It's even worse when the girl leaves them (which they will, it's not a question of if, but when) 86% of all divorce is initiated by the woman. Women literally win 98% of all divorce court cases, despite the fact they commit 83% of adultery between men and women, and even higher for domestic abuse towards their own children (White women are 3 times more likely to hit or verbally abuse their children than white men). Yet still win every single case.

Conclusion: Marraige with white girls = misery, divorce with white girls = misery. Just don't even start, and you won't have to commit suicide.

If you absolutely MUST have any dealings with women, let it be with asian women.

It's always funny to me, that you have better odds playing russian roulette with a loaded revolver, than by getting married

> Why are you even thinking about insurance when you're just buying the house? Are you an arsonist? Don't you know how to do maintenance? What's wrong with you?

youtube.com/watch?v=CKAxcZoIozs
Comedian on marriage

lel, have a temple recommend still (expired by a while now) and some magic underwear that still fits. could probably find one that's going home soon and get something going. I'd feel bad though. 2 years of "abstinence" makes people crazy.

but why are degenerate western whores worth trying? They deserve their burqas and trucks of peace at this point IMO

I like how your obviously objectively incorrect strawman of what forever alone men looks like includes a picture of a man with a gf. Fucking sad b8 m8

I didn't write it, but who is in the picture? Sauce??

For me the problem is not being angry at women, its being scared of loosing MY shit Ive worked getting for years in divorce if she decide shes done with me.

The pussy pass denied sub reddit is doing well.
At 4:55 she said "get out of my country" & threatened to deport & violate him.
reddit.com/r/pussypassdenied/comments/63fscg/nyc_uber_passenger_threatens_to_falsely_accuse/

looks like this dude
Daniel Bruhl

I can agree with some of it, which is why I took the bull pill realizing that I could easily get tons of women to cuck their beta provider boyfriends with my superior tall and virile big dick genes

I've always been shunned from internet communities. Either I felt I never fit in with whatever circlejerk I saw at the time, or I wasn't interested in the topics, or I went against the circlejerk so they banned me.
Me and the MGTOW guys are not on each other's radars. I am single and always will be, but that's because women don't like me and I don't feel like joining a website to talk about that, since it would get boring really fast and it already is very boring to talk about.

>50% of marriages end in divorce
That includes people getting married and divorced multiple times though. Two people staying married counts as one success. People marrying and divorcing 5 times count as 5 divorces.
Also it includes dumbasses marrying the wrong person or for the wrong reasons.
Like divorce is something completely out of your control. It's not like a random, unpredictable natural catastrophe. It's rare that it happens completely out of nowhere and that you couldn't see it coming and had a chance to prevent it.
You guys shift the blame completely on women. Society does the same for men nowadays, but still.

Though, one day when I find the perfect tall aryan girl, and have already spread my seed a considerable amount, I will start a family of my own
I come from a long line of racists, so this is how I do my part. Breeding out the liberal cucks from society

Sage

A FUCKING LEAF

It's the laws that always make me hesitate. I'm white, educated, somewhat of a recluse, (but have taken specific steps (Toastmasters) to balance that out. ), great career ahead of me, stay /fit/, like to go /out/, and I want six kids and a stay at home wife.

But the laws re: divorce are enough to make me seriously consider being celibate or just riding the tiger
> I am the average white man in 2017

Half of them have been burned far too often and have become jaded, the other half are kissless virgins.

I despise the ones that actually hate and generalize all women. Guess they don't care about their mothers, sisters, and grandmothers.

I know right ? It was my main OBJECTIVE SINCE I EVER GOT REJECTED ! To REJECT BACK , damn it feels so great , i rejected At least 20 cunts , after that, i felt satisfied enough , then i had no time to gym cause too much work so now i couldn t reject anymore :( . Soon maybe , i shall start going to gym before i m too old and reject some more

>happens completely out of nowhere
No it doesnt
randalolson.com/2014/10/10/what-makes-for-a-stable-marriage
Here is a huge ass study they did on what divorces had in common. As you can see one of the biggest factors was the amount of time people dated BEFORE getting married. So many fucking idiots rush into marriage without getting to know the person and then act all shocked when they turn out to be someone different. Its 100% your responsibility to date and get to know someone well enough before marrying them.

I'm quite wealthy, I live in downtown Vancouver and I'm surrounded by gold diggers.

So I sleep with them and move on. I like having my own space and not spending my cash on some idiot.

There's a reason a lot of wealthy men are single.

I haven't said "I'm sorry" or compromised in any way for years while I continue to bang girls in their early and mid 20's who just want to go out and have fun.

Anyways, yeah, go ahead and get married if that's the best lifestyle and access to pussy you can pull off.

Say hi to the suburbs for me.

The trick about finding your life partner is to find someone that is also your best friend and whom you share everything with.
I think to even consider marriage, you need at minimum: must be your close best friend, known since childhood, really close good communication and no secrets, hasn't been with any other guy prior.
For example, my girl is someone I knew since middle school and we've been together since college. She's my best friend and we share everything together, no secrets between us.

JUST

>Why are you ALREADY thinking of divorce before ever getting married.
I'm an engineer so I think logically. I overthink a lot too and I don't live under a rock so I see divorce and all this bad shit going on around me. Maybe I am just an asshole with a negative outlook on life. But it's hard to stay positive