i dont know the situation in syria very well but I just cant seem to understand these things:
1) all MSM immediately blames Assad for this. might be a stupid question but where is the proof?
2) why would assad gas his own people? again, possibly a stupid question because i dont know exactly whats up
3) why so many people in those photos going around the victims with barely any protective gear? Sarin gas is extremely potent (medfag here), it triggers vomiting and diarrhea and even touching a Sarin attack victim without gloves might prove fatal or at least life threatening
once again i come to you, Sup Forums, my bros, the redpill to my consciousness
1) There isn't. 2) He wouldn't. He won shittier battles w/o gas. 3) White helmets are a psyop.
James Foster
what are white helmets, bulgar bro? is it the same as ”white hats” i.e the supposed positive government defectors?
Jack Flores
I'm just glad the perpetrators took the time to arrange the corpses into a nice little photo op rather than dispose of the bodies. So considerate.
I assume murdering children is exhausting work, they could have just torched the place and called it a day. But then we would never get to see these inspired pictures. Thanks guys.
Maybe throw some blood in next time. So there can be no question that those are dead kids. Oh and maybe throw in a sign that says Syria on it. Just so there's no doubt.
Eli Rivera
>Rebel Offensive in Hama gets stalled >SAA starts reversing gains >conveniently timed Gas attack in a single strategically inconsequential location
rinse and repeat. It's a hoax and happens every time the Rebs start losing a battle. Ask yourself why Assad would use Gas in populated areas against Alkaida but not in the Palmyra Countryside Desert against ISIS where he has actual trouble making gains?
Jose Cox
A "grassroots Civil Defense Group made of up totally ordinary people" that miraculously shows up 3 seconds after the execution of a person (see vid) and only operates in rebel-held areas.
Whoever took those fucking pictures killed those fucking kids. Straight up.
Benjamin Thomas
Saudi army
Bentley Cruz
Syrian Arab Army. Government forces. Gains = territorial gains, progress, yes.
Wyatt Rogers
al nusra and other jihadists with white helmets. They are on the pay of those who want to keep the conflict going indefinitely as they lack offensive strenght but do the usual beheadings and whatnot. Hollywood loves them,gave them an Oscarhello neighbour,I noticed the based migrant hunters were all weilding aks and other goodies,how can i into guns, I live relatively close to the border and have some distant relatives over there
Lucas Hughes
Either A: The rebels intentionally gassed their own people to try to frame Assad, as they did before.
Or B: Rebels were producing/stockpiling the gas for use against Assad loyalist forces/civilians, and it was struck by govt airstrikes.
William Cooper
Go lurk the Syria General thread
Jaxson Rivera
Seems extremely unlikely that the rebals had a stash of chemical weapons that just happened to be struck by the government by accident.
Ego government committed war crimes against its own people
Matthew Ross
I'm hearing that Assad bombed a rebel site that had the chemicals in storage. Some people are saying it was intentional. Some are saying how would Assad know. Either way, I haven't found a single article about it. The origin point is apparently from Putin. Anyone have an article with Putin saying this? Or any article at all talking about this?
Aaron Ward
It's not like the rebels have tons of strongholds. If they had chemicals, it was bound to be bombed eventually.
Elijah Garcia
fake and gay
Bentley Young
What makes it unlikely is that the rebels would have the chemical weapons to begin with ...
The chemicals used were probably nerve agents. The evidence for this is the speed in which the casualties died. Mustard and other chemicals take far longer to kill you.
A few drops of nerve agents can kill you in minutes, total loss of muscle control in seconds.
These weapons need careful and professional handling... very hard to do in a bombed out ghetto
Luke King
In the earlier days of the war it was at least plausible that Assad might have used chemical weapons. He was in a tight spot then.
Now he has the upper hand though. ISIS is much less of a threat, and SAA has been making steady gains for months. It doesn't make any sense for him to randomly gas some civilians now, after months of gains without using any chemical weapons.
Maybe lack of careful and professional handling is what caused them to gas themselves.
Gabriel Hill
Spooks are among us.
Grayson Hughes
There was no reason to use chemical weapons in the past and its known Assad did. Why not now? Maybe there was a suspected rebel leader (or his family) Assad really wanted to die.
Or maybe he wanted to do it for funzies... who are you or I to question the sandniggers mentality
Nicholas Reed
There was a Dutch reporter on telly at a talkshow yesterday who's spent some time there recently, and they were trying to get him to talk about Assad's involvement. He replied that it wouldn't be the first time rebels attacked civilians, but it's impossible to draw any conclusion either way at this point because there is nothing but propaganda there. All objective journalism there is dead, which he gave as a reason for going there as a reporter in the first place.
Luis Adams
Okay then. If sarin or another nerve agent was used. Then there would be zero chance of that video capturing the footage it did. The video appeared to catch the immediate aftermath. In which case the people helping and shooting the video would have also been susceptible. Also, why do you think Assad and Putin spent so much time moving chemical weapons back in 2012-2013? To keep them out of the hands of the rebels. Also, if the UN, up until now, believed Assad no longer had chemical weapons, then it is reasonable to assume Assad would not know the rebels had chemical weapons in their ammunitions depot.
It doesn't bother you that Assad just randomly uses chemical weapons when peace talks are forming and the US has no plans to intervene? Assad is a lot of things but an absolute idiot is not one of them.
Brody Butler
>and its known Assad did
where is proofs?
Isaiah Hall
CIA and jews try to push evil dictator meme yet again to destabilize yet another region to make europe weaker and israel stronger
Isaiah Cox
I wondered about the location. In te two weeks leading up to it there had been just two striks within 10 miles of the place that was hit, one by Russia/Syria and a US drone strike. Obviously not a major flashpoint as it is also way back behind the lines.
The ONLY reason I can come up with for Assad doing this would be that te place it was near a border crossing. If he had intel that a large number of jihad was coming trough he may have thought it worth it. But this still leaves the issue of the Sarin. Assad handed is Sarin over to the US for destruction.
The UN CW team are heading there now. Curious to see what they have to say.
Elijah Hernandez
Did you just question the sandniggers mentality then imply that you are not qualified to question the sand niggers mentality. In the same fucking sentence.
Does the CIA hire dishwashers for counter intelligence?
Hunter Bell
Hello friendo, how is the mamaliga today? Wish I had some for lunch. :)
Yeah, Dinko is going "all out" with the chopper. You can come and hunt recreationally on the weekends but without guns. Rent an ATV and just have a nice and heatlthy outing along the border with some friends. Might join you!
Circumstantial is almost enough evidence for US and UK to invade fully, and this is worrying. Heck, US do it without any at all. So there is a very real fear of invasion soon. Thank God Russia is there to keep them in check.
Jason Long
What is reading comprehension?
KYS leaf mouthbreather
Protip - your parents telling you that you are smart doesn't mean shit
I understand that Chemistry and Physics must be hard for you to understand.
Your going to have to trust me that nothing in the video ever is not totally clear evidence that a nerve agent chemical attack had occurred.
Alternatively start by reading a chemistry textbook
Gavin Watson
You're kidding right? That letter acknowledges Syria had stockpiles and are in the process of disarming themselves of the stockpiles. That is all. I read the whole thing but you can stop at the word alleged in bold, at the top.
John Sanchez
Russia and FSA take Aleppo >no videos Islamic State getting anally raped since Trump has been in >no videos Sarin gas attack in a rebel held area in the middle of nowhere >4k video footage, videos and interviews
Really makes you think
Jaxon Lee
> The evidence for this is the speed in which the casualties died. >A few drops of nerve agents can kill you in minutes, total loss of muscle control in seconds. Couple those words with the video evidence and tell me it's Sarin gas.
Noah Carter
Its the header of the report fool. Respect thag you read it all, so now go read the full report. Tldr? - "It was government - conviction in the Hauge level certain? Uncertain..."
Ayden Moore
This, very much. Whenever media calls out (((dictator))) it's just a jewish meme.
The symptoms shown could be from Sarin to any organophosphate compound, basically you treat it with atropine sulfate. This is my medic training talking. The media already reported phosphine poison gas used by ISIL on Lybia and Syria, and moderate rebels as well. The detonations look from shells with the poison compound, very crude. Assad is known to have actual missiles with chemical warheads, which wouldn't leave anyone alive as those have a high spread and concentration. The problem, if they accuse Assad. Now he might actually use his warheads.
Lincoln Gray
>if (((they))) accuse
Easton Robinson
Okay. Then wouldn't this law prove this video false? twitter.com/eliothiggins/status/849556810122108928 Sorry for only having a link to a video on twitter but it's not like actual reporting is going on there for the most part.
Cooper Cox
Its israel/american false flag nothing new.
Jace Stewart
I'm too lazy to reply to each one, but hey, Hillary's rebels had Phosphine poison gas in schools, stockpiled. Now my question, how German Phosphine ends on the hands of the "rebels"..
He's winning on all fronts, both against rebels and IS. He recently annihilated a rebel offensive from Idlib into Hama. Of course they will do a false flag attack over social media to make public pressure on Western governments to help them.
Bentley Cooper
You do realize that UN declared that rebels used chemical weapons in 2013/4, right?
Jason Anderson
So if these "rebels" are murdering children and attempting to blame it on the Syrian Government to incite foreign intervention, maybe we should intervene.
Maybe we should ally with Russia and Syria to squash the rebels so the child murdering can stop. Once that's taken care of they can go back to fighting each other. And not murdering children. Reasonable?
>2014 >Obama threatens to invade Syria if all of Assad's chemical stockpiles are turned over >the next day >Assad agrees to allow US, Russian, and other international inspectors into the country to collect the weapons for disposal >2015 >United States, Russian, and European analysts announce the destruction of the last of Assad's chemical weapons >2017 >Obama-era leftover "analysts" announce Assad used chemical weapons on his own people
Fantastic, this is great, they're narrative is falling apart.
How can normal humans fucking buy this obvious bullshit?
Kevin Williams
are not* turned over
Daniel Young
their* narrative
Holy shit I'm tired as fuck, been up for 20 hours.
Henry Campbell
Gen x doesn't question anything. Millennials are prone to hype news.
Eli Sanders
Praying gen Z's come through on the backend
Chase Morales
So, starting a war under the guise of humanitarianism is just that, a guise.
No one would ever do that, because they know how much greater the death toll would be to invade a country, and bomb it, as modern warfare dictates.
We're told on television and television's internet news sources that "precision-laser-smartguided" etc. etc. bombs are good weapons, that only kill terrorists and enemies, while barrel bombs, ied's and poison gas are bad weapons, that only kill civilians.
here's the thing, they're all indiscriminate. They all kill civilians. someone trying to start a war for "humanitarian aid" is LYING. They KNOW it will result in far more dead civilians than staying out, and they have an ulterior motive to engage in war, and they think you're stupid enough to go along with whatever they tell you.
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James Edwards
why is Putin supporting bashar al assad? i saw the video of children and people dying on the streets, even if putin is indeed a murderer and a very evil man, supporting this attack would fuck his image all around the world.
Asher Rogers
It's looking like Gen Z will be the logical conclusion to all of the deconstructionism, critique and post-modernism. Complete and total pragmatists, with no cultural or religious principle whatsoever. Nothing but contempt for gen Y's pretentious faux-morality, gen Z are a generation of little Caesars and Napoleons. Great when one leads an army of believers, but having them all together leads to the Cypress experiment, from Brave New World. We're going to see a great turmoil in a couple of decades, to rival the society-shattering cruelty of Great Purge.
Ryan Brooks
>1) all MSM immediately blames Assad for this. The strong deductive evidence shows no other party could done it. The flimsy warehouse excuse was immediately laughed at.
>why would assad gas his own people? again, Fear of killing civilians. Fear of torture and execution. Fear of devastation. It's how brutal dictators keep people in line.
>why so many people in those photos going around the victims with barely any protective gear? Sarin dissipates quickly so it is a short-lived threat.
It's ghoulish that Putin would think women and children are appropriate targets for Assad to attack. They both need to be in prison for war crimes against humanity.
Christian Perez
>We're going to see a great turmoil in a couple of decades, to rival the society-shattering cruelty of Great Purge. I can't wait
Blake Hall
90% of Syria isn't his people.
Brandon James
No Dawn, no Renaissance, no strength and guile with principle and a love for mankind. Just clever devils.
Gabriel Long
>It's ghoulish that Putin would think women and children are appropriate targets for Assad to attack. They both need to be in prison for war crimes against humanity. Yeah because the US has never ever bombed women and children
Jeremiah Roberts
that's why he got elected.
David Ward
You're about to have an entire generation of very cheerful Yezhovs and Blokhins.
David Harris
>Assad agrees to allow US, Russian, and other international inspectors into the country to collect the weapons for disposal Change the name to "Saddam Hussein" and your false narrative is the one that implodes.
Gen Z can either save society from the cancer of progressivism or burn it to the fucking ground. I'm fine with either.
Jaxon Allen
>Yeah because the US has never ever bombed women and children Tu quoque fallacy. Somebody else doing it too doesn't make it right. If it's wrong, it's wrong.
Putin and Assad deliberately target schools and hospitals for maximum terror effect on the population. No other leaders do this.
Face it, you Kremlin toadies are busted this time.
> Now my question, how German Phosphine ends on the hands of the "rebels"..
Ethan Mitchell
And so what? Do you think the terrorists don't know that the U.S. doesn't bomb schools? Why do you think Russia's air campaign was so effective while the U.S. was a failure despite yours being carried out for years longer? Russia and Assad know that the Jihadists take cover in hospitals and schools and they blow them up anyway. The jihadists will learn that there is nowhere they can hide and the civilians will learn that harbouring and supporting ISIS, which is what they are doing, is going to get your children and sick ones bombed. Welcome to war against Islam.
Kayden Martin
Phosphene, or Green cross gas, caused 80% of chemical causalities in WW1. Spooky shit.
Jaxon Davis
Well done. You're obviously one of the big guns.
You need a better motive though. That won't even stick to glue. Judging by the quality of some other posters I imagine you guys have lots of glue to test with.
William Reed
>U.S. was a failure despite yours being carried out for years longer
But that's wrong, you fucking retard.
We got rid of more ISIS than Russia and Syria combined, and we operate in both Syria and Iraq, whereas Russia operates only in Syria.
Josiah Cox
Also with far less civilian casualties. Maybe because we do precision bombing and not some retarded cluster bomb bullshit.
Kayden Jones
> Now my question, how German Phosphine ends on the hands of the "rebels"..
Are you saying there are civilian casualties in a prolonged civil war? No way.
Luis Campbell
>Putin and Assad deliberately target schools and hospitals for maximum terror effect on the population You live in a fantasy world. They deliberately targeted these places because those are the areas terrorists used as bases. Islamic Imams teach their soldiers to use women, elderly, injured, and children as human shields.
Camden James
>but that's wrong Nope. I mean, I get it, you wanted to avoid bombing the Jihadists you were funding, so you avoided FSA and certain ISIS positions and with Obama blocking 80% of your airstrikes like the cuck he was, it was always going to be a failure no matter how good your airforce was. But within a week of Russia bombing their positions, ISIS and FSA forces were in full retreat. The U.S. screamed "war crimes" at that too, but you can't argue with results. Assad will win this war, and it's one less Jihadi-ruled middle eastern country. Outstanding work by Russia and Syria - they've saved thousands of lives here in the West.
Bentley Myers
False Flag, or the Russians bombed a rebel/ISIS chemical weapon depot. Assad didn't do it. Why would he? He is pushing the rebels and ISIS back.
Justin Powell
bump
Zachary Garcia
Didn't happen anywhere near ISIS held territory, and as far as I've seen those ragheads do not have the ability to mass produce chemical weapons and even if they did, how could they even deploy them?
Kayden Rodriguez
>Russia and Assad know that the Jihadists take cover in hospitals and schools and they blow them up anyway. It's all a lie.
The fuck are you smoking? Assad and allies are nowhere near taking back the country. Plus if the Kurds want independence that could lead to another war.
Not to Mention the Turkish troops deployed in North Syria....
Thomas Cook
And do these doctors without borders know what information Putin and Assad had available? Maybe Putin had a reason to believe there indeed were terrorists in the hospital. It's inconsequential whether there actually were or weren't.
Brandon Johnson
No one with their almonds activated buys it
Dominic Murphy
>They deliberately targeted these places Yes, so why is the other half of your propaganda team still denying it?
>areas terrorists used as bases. Not according to the victims of the bombings.
> Islamic Imams teach their soldiers to use women, elderly, injured, and children as human shields. While I don't doubt Muslims engage in this kind of craven cowardice, the Russians are using it as a permanent excuse for bombing all hospitals and schools, particularly when victims and eyewitnesses are testifying that fighters were not present.
Levi Lee
>Maybe Putin had a reason to believe there indeed were terrorists in the hospital. Putin deliberately launched airstrikes against a humanitarian convoy last year.
What Putin actually understands is that without any access to food or medical care, there will eventually be no Syrians left to testify against him.
Anthony Hall
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Yeah "elected". The guy is a dictator that got his position from his father
Jose Martinez
Also, you may remember the 2013 Ghoutta attack that used a surface to surface missile containing sarin. At the time it seemed to be an open and shut case : Assad did it.
However, findings in 2014 suggested that the agents used were the same as those used in an attack in Khan al-Assal, which appears to have been committed by rebel forces.
This indicates they do have chemical weapons stockpiles.
Isaac Murphy
What rock did you crawl out of. Muslims are known for using craven tactics
Connor James
So what? He's secular, not a radical, and generally supports a number of liberties not afforded to others in Middle Eastern states.
He protects religious minorities, including Christians, and stands up to Israel.
Connor Lee
how many hospitals does syria have?
Oliver Powell
HA! The Fools! Let them fight amongst themselves!
Daniel Lewis
UN accuses Syrian rebels of carrying out sarin gas attacks which had been blamed on Assad's troops
