Why does Europe hate the idea of being united through the EU so much? Do they not want to be powerful like the USA is...

Why does Europe hate the idea of being united through the EU so much? Do they not want to be powerful like the USA is? The USA presumably wouldn't be so powerful and influential if they were just a bunch of disjoint states. What would the EU need to do differently for Europoors to get on board?

Because we don't want shitskins.

In the US, as much as they want to, California and New York don't get to dictate to the rest of the country. This is by design.

In the EU, Germany gets to dictate to the rest of the union. This is by design.

Can you guess why one is desirable and one isn't?

>What would the EU need to do differently for Europoors to get on board?
There's nothing they can do. America works as states because they were all originally populated by the same peoples.
Europe is made up of dozens of different ethnicities/religions/languages/cultures and for the vast majority of the last couple of millennia they've hated each other. A United States of Europe in the vein of the USA can never work.

Tho, fuck off leaf and look for your own cucked nation. Niggers asking about the well being of others is what made globalim and jewery normal. Die in a fire NIGGER

And btw, kill yourself

wouldn't you be getting them with or without the EU? isn't that sweden's policy?

The EU is a globalist institution which has no qualms about destroying each and every country under its dominion through various means. Why would any sane person agree to that?

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Also the likes of Junker and Tusk suck Soros cock and really don't give a shit about EU unity itself as much as their dumb ideology power and influence so they bash and call literally everyone on the right extremist or a nazi, sound familiar these days, burgers?.

Being powerful on a global scale means nothing if I have to sacrifice my rights for it.
I'd rather be a little island with big guns and a lot of freedom than a huge conglomerate clusterfuckistan that just wants to play with the big boys USA, Russia and China.

The EU should be an union of internal migration (Swedish people going to Spain and viceversa) and commerce, and that's all it should ever be.

Embarrassing attempt at memeballs desu senpai

Which countries should never have been allowed into the EU?

Why was a shithole like T*rkey ever considered as a serious candidate for joining?

Europe has nations we are not an empire like america filled with different people. Fuck off

>Which countries should never have been allowed into the EU?
Most of eastern europe desu. but people were insistent lest they fall back under the influence of russia

>Why was a shithole like T*rkey ever considered as a serious candidate for joining?
Because of liars spouting shit like pic related

EU is excelent idea and it would be good if they forbade every non-EU immigration. But they are ordering Italy to pick immigrants up and are allowing 3rd world immigration. EU would be awesome if it was only beetween EU states and if we had Watch towers, Dogs, Military Patrols at Bulgaria border and Warships patrolling meditereneean that sink every 3rd wolders attempt to come to europe

Different cultures maybe? i dunno there is something different about British and French culture. (bar the shitskins ofc)

>A pity about terrorism

the Union was a great idea until it started to become a cucked company of faggots that thinks letting in waves of rapist savage hordes of sandmonkeys is a good idea.

btw in Canada we hardly get any terrorism but I worry more about seeing my fellow leafs give off these sorts of non-reactions to dozens of deaths than the actual terrorism

the complacency is sickening

>It's time to value money
>David Rosenberg

>Why was a shithole like T*rkey ever considered as a serious candidate for joining?

Because the EU is a big game of musical chairs of creatively pushing debt around, and the more countries Germany can sick this debt on, the less chance Germany has to be left with the bill.

Because the USA has a single language and a single culture. A European Union will never work.

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Because I dislike the central government more the more disconnected it is from me. Fuck I dislike the central government of Sweden just because it is so disconnected from us in the north. I can't see how a Brussels would understand me better.

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So much this
Intercontinental immigration should only be allowed on a microscopic scale otherwise shit like double arabia is going to happen

>time value money over religion and origin
>(((rosenberg)))

Every fucking time.

For starters, we are actually different countries with different cultures, values, and a long history of trying to murder each other.

>Why does Europe hate the idea of being united through the EU so much?

Something about being conquered by germany again.... I think.

You guys see the latest economic figures?

Germany is all like: "Look at our impressive surplus!"

And all of the other EU nations just grumbled in a silent rage as germany gloated.

forgot trip.

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HOLY SHIT

amerika is shitt

Here's the thing you fucking faggot leaf. Europe is not the USA. They never will be. We started out as a British colony, so we all had similar culture and heritage. We grew up basically as a second Britain, but without the history. Europe has too much history to be like us. Old rivalries that should have died a century ago, Germany still exists for some reason, white guilt is crushing them, etc.
The EU has too much individual history as nations so any unified government will inherently be less unified than the US, even today.

>(((EU)))

there, I answered your question

It would need to not be Europe. The project of unifying Europe failed under the Romans, failed after the death of Charlemagne, failed under any number of Popes, failed under Napoleon, failed under Hitler. It won't work! There is nothing in history to suggest that efforts to unify Europe can last more than a single generation or would end in anything other than blood and tears.

Seriously, this is why the west embraced the ideal of the sovereign nation state after the Peace of Westphalia. Treating the nations of Europe as sovereign entities and encouraging them to work out their differences via diplomacy and trade is the only way to minimize conflict on the continent.

Maybe because americans have 400 years of history while we have 2500 ?

The Roman Empire lasted for 1,000 years...

Also americans won't be a unified semi-continent by the end of the century, explosion will happen before that, the critical gap between coastal and countryside America has been reached.

We are different people, with different cultures and different languages. It's like uniting all of north America

>It's like uniting all of north America
this honestly isn't that hard to imagine

slide shill detected

>sage

european empire when?

If your country wasnt 150 years old, you would know.

Were founded on freedoms, EU was founded for the sake of domination

>record levels unemployment in all western nations
>import shitskins

Maybe not being run by unelected totalitarian bureaucrats with a rabidly socialist/globalist ideology would be a nice start. These EU shills seriously act like Juncker and Merkel aren't the most toxic human beings on Earth right now. Have you just chosen to pay zero attention to the fact that Europe is imploding right now and it has all beem caused by the EU? You live in a fucking fairytale.

A world where Italy and Germany are as the same is Wisconsin and Minnesota? No thank you.

>Why does Europe hate the idea of being united through the EU so much?
Because we secretly (or not so secretly) all hate each other.

>Do they not want to be powerful like the USA is?
If we don't want to sink down to irrelevance we will HAVE to be a powerful continent.

>What would the EU need to do differently for Europoors to get on board?
The EU has to give back quite a number of sovereignities to the nation states. Even some of the fundamental pillars have to be torn down. If the EU doesn't get that it will perish. If it does I think it might actually have quite a long life and be a useful institution. Necessity alone will keep it together in 30 years.

US was born as a nation, even as colonies. Europe, and the EU has always been individual nations. Even now, the EU operates more closely to a confederation, that is trying to federalize and deligitimize each countries status as a nation, and turn them into a state.

By virtue a state is a vassal of the nation it belongs to. When that is the status quo from the get go, and we all walked into it voluntarily, cool.

tl/dr:
Europe does not want vassalized nations.

on a personal note:

I grow tired of the incessant "we must compete with the US" mantra. The US doesnt care. Quickest way to compete with the USA? dont play the game. Block all trade to and from the USA and become self reliant. We will survive, you will survive, and everyone will be better for it. End of report.

Can only speak for myself leaf but there's a reason the EU is different to the US.

First off, the US was an unapologetically dominant force that considered itself superior to all other cultures and that it had a mandate from God to expand across the entire country. You can think whatever you like about that but, as a result of it, the USA is now basically the same in all 50 states. English is the national language and you generally hold the same social attitudes. If a politician ran in Texas or California on a secession platform, not only would the federal government never allow it to happen, but in fact the people wouldn't vote that person into power anyway.

By comparison, the EU is simply a collection of disparate states, all of which speak English fluently but don't want to give up their own languages for the sake of easier communication. So there's 28 different languages, and 28 different cultures, with no one country saying "no, you're doing it our way or you fucking die". Political parties that are open to leaving the bloc are rising in popularity and the EU has the ability to leave the group written into its constitution, so it's all pretty easy to do despite the big fucking shit-fit they threw about Brexit. Why even have an Article 50 if you're going to be gay about it?

If the EU had come into being the same time the USA did and under the same circumstances, we'd all be speaking English and that would be fine. That time has passed though, and if we don't want bloodshed and war then we need to accept that these are 28 different countries and deal with them on that basis.

The EU should be nothing more than a trade and defense group like the G8. The 28 leaders of each country could meet 4 times a year and just have a basic "state of the union" meeting. If one country misbehaves you kick them out until they get their shit together and lock down their borders from the outside if it's serious enough. Simple. No need for this "ever closer union".

you are missing the key point, which is the US wants the EU to collapse, the US wants war in Europe, so it can cure its economic problems.

>Do they not want to be like the USA
nope

Because as we can already see from how the EU is ran, Belgium and Germany would own you if you joined and stayed in.

You mean do we want to be run by jews, like the USA? No we don't.

Probably because unelected bureacrats no one in real life likes are in charge and ruin countries with monetary policy if they dont accept rape gangs.

can't tell if troll or lobotomized