Face it, Sup Forums would love Obamacare if a republican made it or if Obama wasn't black

Face it, Sup Forums would love Obamacare if a republican made it or if Obama wasn't black.

I thought you used umaru pics what gives?

That dumb fake loli is the new hotness for shitposters.

we should have no "free" healthcare at all

Burgers only care about blacks and guns. they are too stupid to actually have a healthcare system

Umaru is old news. Dragon lolis are the new hot meme.

Why's it always a fucking leaf posting this shill stuff? Is it the really the same one over and over or is Canada just that cucked?

I remember back in the distant past of 2009, I had private insurance that cost $76 a month and covered catastrophic injuries, and a couple routine checkups a year. It was great.

Now, I am mandated by law to be on MediCal. Technically, all my expenses are covered. In practical reality, it's basically impossible for me to see a doctor. I've had 2 checkups in the last 4 years, and one of those was through a contractor funded by a company I worked for.

This is why I'm no longer a democrat.

Why would I love anything that benefits health insurance companies? Are you retarded?

Face it, Sup Forums would love Obamacare if a republican made it or if there weren't any blacks.
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Why? Why even live in a country and pay taxes if they give you zero back?

If you want to pay for Tyrone's healthcare bill every time he gets shot or creates a niglet, go ahead.

what's the name of this girl? tot's not gonna look up hentai for it I promise :^)

This. I used to have great private insurance that gave me co pays on doctor visits, etc. Now all I have is a high deductible, which wouldn't be so bad except every fucking doctors service has also gone through the roof. So unless I'm literally dying, I can't really afford to ever go see one unless I want to use up most of my savings. My white male privilege in action I guess. The only people Obamacare works for are poor fucks who didn't have anything at all before. Instead of some having none and some having great care, now we all get mediocre care. Thanks socialists, we truly are equal now.

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I don't mind government healthcare, but the 10th amendment explicitly prevents the Federal government from creating their own healthcare, as it should. Texas will not want the same kind of healthcare that California wants.

Kanna, from kobayashi no dragon maid.

Obamacare' biggest issue was failing to solve the financial problems. Universal health insurance is better than people running up expenses when they eventually show up in the emergency room, preventative care is great, etc. We have issues though with stuff like not capping payouts, having no incentives for staying healthy, doing little to control the way hospitals bill insurance companies (paying what items actually cost), doing next to nothing to address exorbitant drug prices, doing nothing to encourage and prioritize more efficient and cheaper treatments over cutting edge niche treatments, etc. we have the best healthcare in the world but it's also the most expensive. It isn't sustainable at the pace we're moving and we need to make some sacrifices.

Republicans wouldn't give Democrats the single payer system they wanted so they shat out this bill that made healthcare better for a lot of people but made our financial situation even worse (along with adding a handful of regulations that were utter shit like requiring certain employers to provide insurance)

Thats your education systems fault

pope posting!

I don't want socialist shitcare. I was perfectly fine until they started this shit.
In fact they've made it a pain in the ass to see a doctor when I could do it easily before. Now I only go to the doctor when I think I might be dying.

People also don't realize that socialist healthcare systems depend on the US's capitalist system. We have the most advanced healthcare on the planet because we pump shit tons of money into research which these "free" healthcare systems depend upon. We are the place that creates all the technology and innovations you leeches use for your healthcare.

Why does Tyrone get bad grades when Timmy and Chang get all A's?

Clearly something wrong with our education system.. right?

Yeah i meqn come on america just look at Australian education and all the brilliant petro.. i mean nobel prize winning abos they have

The problem isn't black people. The problem is insurance companies and allowing capitalism to poison healthcare. Healthcare should always be given by the government because everyone benefits from living.

Yep. And to add insult to injury, if I move to a higher paying job, or take on more contract work, I'll make too much to stay on MediCal, and suddenly be stuck with hundreds a month in premiums. So currently I am incentivized to not work harder, and to take money under the table. This is retarded.

I don't think so, honestly. People don't like being forced to pay for shit, especially shit that they don't use, and young people generally don't need health insurance.

From a humanitarian perspective, it's the right thing to do; from a promoting your own self interest perspective, it's a terrible thing. The price increases on those who already had health insurance was probably the worst part.

The thing is that they either need to implement universal healthcare, or quit the penalty for people who don't have it, while getting rid of the pre-existing conditions rule. There are no other workable middle grounds, it's all or nothing at this point. I guess they could try extreme regulation and make it de facto government controlled, but I'm not even sure if that's an option.

My only concern at this point is how can we afford such a thing? We really need to start doing what's best for the greatest number of Americans.

>Pays taxes for ''free'' healthcare
>With money that he could save up to pay for a private service
Yes goyim, give your money the government because you are just too fucking dumb to use It yourself.

>Pope is a pedophile
Nothing that we didn't already know

It ends up being a pretty simple utilitarian function. You're always going to have a certain number of people that are just a huge healthcare cost due to illness, etc. In the distant past, they just died, which sucks. In the more recent past, they were a burden on their family and could drag an entire wealthy family down into poverty. These days, we refuse to let them pay and so burden society with their care.

Under Obamacare, we get the money to cover them by upcharging the young and healthy. This covers the cost, but it fucks over young people economically. They are already getting fucked by student loans, housing prices, immigrant and outsourcing destroying opportunity, etc. At a certain point, you can only pile so much on the young before they just fail to launch, you get no money, and your society collapses.

A society that chooses to let those fucked by nature continue to be fucked will still function. A society that fucks it's young to make those fucked by nature a little more comfortable will collapse and die.

The other variable is the overall cost. Conceivably, if the costs were low enough we could bear it. But that means we need incentives and market forces to drive prices down. But Obamacare drives them up, because there no no competition or accountability, and everything is someone else's money. So it's a perfect storm of fucking the youth, and not even fucking them efficiently. We're screwed. If we can get rid of Obamacare, then a lot of people will suffer. But it won't also fuck over society's future.

>an anime picture
>Leaf
Opinion discarded. Type Sage in options etc etc.

>burger
>no foreskin

opinion discarded i dont consort with anyone who has been harvested by the kike

Evangelion poster so +100000 points


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Ramiel thread?