Admit it, /leftypol/, Trump is genius

I am thoroughly convinced that Trump is a modern Bismarck. We have not had a real politician in our midst for a long time. Finally, a real leader that uses realpolitik!

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Bismarcks system had flaws and was far from perfect, even though it kept the peace for a while

And it made you guys into a powerful country. Just sayin.

If /leftypol/ wins at the end of all this I will go on a shooting spree. Screencap this.

But don't report it to the feds please...

It made us have peace with everyone besides france but really didn't do much more than that, most of the treaties were secret and had no approval by the parliament which made it impossible to keep them up after Bismarck himself was gone

>getting butthurt over a bunch of neckbeard faggots on another site winning

Lmao, go lift faggot.

>getting this upset at a few shallow craters on an airstrip
you know what, there are plenty of legitimate criticisms of Trump. But you, you're a straight up pussy.

Von Bismarck built the modern state of Germany through clever diplomacy and Machiavellian methods. This is the true path to politics. Trump pulled off a Bismarck maneuver yesterday and it kept the world in peace while asserting America's power. A very difficult thing to do.

Bismark? Ha ha ha ha ha.

Bismark? Ha ha ha ha ha.

Bismark? Ha ha ha ha ha.

Wow, did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed? Wife cucked you this morning? Damn, son.

Look, here's someone that can only reply with a picture. Obvious shill.

Ha ha ha ha ha.

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Bismarck avoided any involvement in foreign conflicts and surely would never have intervened in such a drastic way in a foreign conflict. He focused on peaceful meathods of politics and tried to make sure to keep the balance of european powers by making any war impossible without breaking some form of deal or treaty, especially against germany.

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>He focused on peaceful meathods of politics

"The important questions are determined by blood and iron" - Bismarck

Based

This

Give me a single instance of Bismarck using violent means in a foreign conflict!
Oh right, there were none because he avoided them all.
His treaties were with Russia and Autria-Hungary were used to deescalate the conflict about the balcan area and keep germany neutral in case of a war.
He kept out of the colonies as well to avoid conflict.
How would he ever go to war or even break international law to show the strengh of his country? He wouldn't. Because he knew what his actions would look like to foreign governments and, unlike the US, germany was not in the position of being the strongest power in the world.
Different person, different position, not comparable.

>tfw faggots still dont understand big stick diplomacy

What are you talking about.

He had war with Denmark, he had war with Austria, he had war with France.

Here watch a movie (with english subtitles)

youtube.com/watch?v=RxYCEftcc5w

>german cuck thinking Bismark was a cuck like himself.
>not realizing that Bismark was playing politics... pretend ding to be peaceful to accumulate more power from the kaiser until he was able to reveal his own power level.

I am talking about the time after 1871, after germany was a nation and not a loose group of kingdoms

>comparing a kike puppet to Bismarck
DIE!

I love Bismarck

He did do unethical things, such as the Ems Dispatch which he doctored himself to make France and Prussia go to war. But he did everything to accomplish one goal: unify Germany under Prussia. He pushed Denmark out of the way, he pushed Austria out of the way, then he crushed France and humiliated them. He made some mistakes, such as humiliating France to the point of where they wanted revanche.

However, his clear and logical thinking and ability to do bold and rash things on the spot was what made everyone extremely fearful of him. He knew what was going on. Sounds like Trump? I think he does.

I do, too.

Don't we all?

Personally, I don't think any one on the left besides nationalists has been pleased with Trump or his tactics at all. I, as somebody who's been a Democrat forever but switched to Trump after Bernie lost, view last night as Trump's greatest accomplishment. He did what Obama should have in the first place. It's looking like 4D chess from every angle. What I can't comprehend, however, is why Assad would gas his own people. Again. At a time like this.


Bismarck though? No. This is just a (potential) turning point.

I'm pretty far left and I like him. But more of a solidarity thing, with Syria really bugging me now

The ems Dispatch was about heir of the spanish throne wasn't it?
And I didn't say he didn't do unethical things, I said he kept his hands out of foreign conflicts (after 1871 that is) because he thought that germany was saturated and any expansion or colonialism would turn the other powers agains them, which then happed after he was gone (after 1890) in the marocco crisises of 1905 and 1911 resulting in the triple entente (russia/UK/france) who then fought germany in WW1

Who doesnt?

>“God has a special providence for fools, drunkards, and the United States of America.”

-Bismarck

Of course, a leaf appears out of nowhere to bash the greatest country on Earth. So original!

I'd agree to that, he might be playing his 4D chess but he is not at Bismarck level quite yet, we'll see how he handles this thing and how the next few years will look

Na I love you faggots.

Just comparing Trump to Bismarck is pure retardation.

Bismarck had a banker jew, too. Bleichroeder.

They are very good at being close to the power.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerson_von_Bleichröder

Bismarck accomplished his goal. He sought no further expansion. What happened after 1871 was the result of his genius of forming a peaceful post-Franco-Prussian war status. His efforts to get there, though, was much harder.

The Ems Dispatch did concern the heir to the Spanish throne, yes, which the French opposed having a Hohenzollern to the south of their border. Bismarck made this dispatch much more incendiary than the King of Prussia wanted it to be, which forced Napoleon III to declare war at the behest of his angry people. Bismarck was a sneaky bastard, but he saw no other way to unite Germany faster. If it wasn't for him, many more clumsy wars would have been fought to unite Germany and many more would have died.

>Bismarck avoided any involvement in foreign conflicts and surely would never have intervened in such a drastic way in a foreign conflict
>he thought that germany was saturated and any expansion or colonialism would turn the other powers agains them

No matter how you spin it, that's just wrong.

The USA is not in the position of Germany at all.

So saying he wouldn never use the military is quite foolish. especially when his biggest accomplishment, the german unification was after a war with France.

I hate Krauts who disagree with me but i hate other countries even more.
T. Otto Von Bismarck

I fully agree that Bismarck was a great politician and thinker but a comparison to Trump is not really possible at this point because they are copletely different in their ways of thinking and operating, if Trump really manages to do great things then we can have this discussion again.

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>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerson_von_Bleichröder
so the Kissinger Dictation was just a joke of him?
As stated before, I am talking about the time after 1871

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kissingen_Dictation ***

leftists hate genius because genius is oppressive to dumbshits.

Don't expect them to recognize any sort of intelligence.

Remember, they think their garbage tier le porky man memes are funny.

They find Jon Oliver funny

>Ignores what just happened in Syria

Yeah, okay, bro.

>Bismarck wins 3 wars
>Bismarck creates the strongest european empire, but not strong enough for a two front war
>Bismarck wants to avoid further war

You have not understood how he thought at all.

Do you have a refugee that you need to watch screw your wife for "cultural enrichment?"

You didn't even use >this right

Pathetic, and I'm half-German.

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You cannot tell me that this is comparable to Trump though...

>TRUMP IS A PUPPET
>bombs Syria

The German Empire was strong enough to win WWI in the early stages of it, just that von Kluck and von Moltke were incompetent battlefield commanders that failed to seize Paris in September 1914. Not to mention that Kaiser Wilhelm II was diplomatically inept and acted like a child on the world stage.

>be Wilhelm II
>rescind protective treaty with Russia just for shits and giggles
>surprised when Russia signs entente treaty with France

No shit, huh?

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Well, that's liberals. Liberals enjoy normie tier "descartes in front of the horse" plebbit humor.

Commies are void inside and are unable to reconcile the idea of something controversial being funny.

Their attempts to make memes and write humorous anecdotes are always masterclasses in autistic thunder.

Liberals literally cannot make good memes, ive literally never seen one

Wilherlm II. surely was the worst thing that happened to germany since it became a nation but the treaty with Russia wasn't his fault, it was predictable because Bismarck didn't have the parliament backing this treaty and also it promised Russia a conection to the meditreanien and the Bopsrorus which contradicted the treaty he made with the UK, Spain and Italy in which he promised to keep Russia away fromt these places ( even though he wasn't really a partner in that treaty)

I used it to point to your degenerate uneducated online presence, not as a quotation you pathetic yankee. Get lost you degenerate good for nothing.

I'm not saying that liberals make good memes, just that /leftypol/ somehow manages to be even more retarted and humourless than libs.

That must take effort

Wasn't it Warren Buffet who said, buy only stocks from companies that even a fool can run, because some day, that will happen.

Until this day german politicians are haunted by the thought of being alone.

g8 b8 m8

There are two angles to Assad gassing:
1) He believes the media and thinks that Trump/Putin are best friends and that the US would never strike him. He miscalculated. Trump may be friendly with Russia, but he is also willing to use Syria as leverage to show that he isn't under Russia's thumb.

2) Assad wants to use gas/chemicals, and will continue to, because he WANTS American intervention to force Russia and the US into a war. This would bring him direct, heavy Russian support. This is also stupid because it would guarantee his own demise, but maybe he's just miscalculating.

An interesting thread with arguments, different points of view and few shills. Wew, it's been a while, glad that Trump is sending us such enigmas, making Sup Forums great again

wow you actually believe this, its cute, sad but cute that you can be this pathetic and delusional. sad.

>He focused on peaceful meathods of politics

He used limited wars. Don't fool yourself.

Two shekels have been deposited into your account by David Brock, goy. Your existence in the New World Order will not be forgotten!

Just for giggles, Bismarcks original voice from 1889, one of the earliest recordings in history.

youtube.com/watch?v=czko31-6O8I

kike go pls

Thats cool as fuck

Thanks, never heard of that one before.

FUCKING NORMIE GET OFF MY BOARD FUCKING REEEEEEEEEEE

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Bismark was a globalist puppet, just like trump, so yes.

>There are two angles to Assad gassing

No, there are many other angles that don't involve Syria shooting itself in the foot. You have just described the Hollywood version where ebil Assad & Putin are the villain that the U.S. just has to play World Policeman™ against. Your version is being rebuffed by those that have heard the same wolf-crying over the past 20 years.

Even if Assad DID gas babies, why is it any of your business to intervene? According to most ardent Americans, you don't care if "mudslimes" get whacked.

" Bismarck tried to implement far-reaching anti-socialist laws in early 1890"

" to crush them"

Not bad. Seems he recognized them early on.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_von_Bismarck#Downfall

It's called 52 dimensions of underwater table tennis, leaf.

Isn't that what they teach you in Kaybeck?

Did you learn German history in school?

nice try, bot

>implying there was globalism in the 1800's

Do you even shill, goy?

nice try, leaf

>/leftypol/

These kids are worse than Reddit, they spend all the time wondering how they will act in Sup Forums e how to impress the cool guys. TOTAL LOSERS.

>there wasnt globalism
Sure man, and the russian commies rose to power completely without foreign funding like your history teaches told you

I know, they suck BBC all the time for this shilling. Try to start a conversation on Trump/Bismarck similarities and /leftypol/ as usual fucks things up.

fuck you bot

>half-German
>on Sup Forums

Why?

Don't worry guys, the smart germans all emigrated to the US.

That escalated quickly, leaf. Have a dinner date with your Syrian refugee screwing your wife?

Oh wait, the government persecutes you if you disagree. Sorry, my bad!

>merkel is my poop
>mfw thats why my shit stinks so bad

This

Hey, I hate that shit too dog. Why'd you reply to my buzzword comment if you aren't.. a bot?

>Trump atks Syrian airbase
>warns Russians an hour ahead of missile launch
>airbase is still functional

Trump literally flushed $100m worth of military hardware down the drain.

>b-but muh 4D-hexagonal-transdimensional chess

This makes him look reactionary. How many conflicts do Americans have to start without a clear objective before we realize going down this path again will drive up the national debt and keep us engaged in endless wars. We're fucking bankrupt!

And this only makes Trump look more like a manchurian cnndidate. See image.

Maybe because I just like calling Canadians "leafs." Can't get enough of it.

Woah, look at this guy. He needs more tin for his hat! Quick, someone get him more tin for his hat!

Luxembourg also had very aggressiv anti-communist laws in place also against the jids way before Hitler was even a thing

ofcourse the royal family these day pretends that everything was coming from evul nazis and they're in cahoots with the jids now
sad

Trump does realpolitik but like Bismarck, he's surrounded by the most incompetent fools.

Doesn't help that literally everyone is against Trump. At least all Bismarck had to deal with was a reluctant king.

>Trump is genius
FUCK YEAH!

You do understand that Assad had literally ZERO reasons to gas his own people, right?

The Republican party has shown to bend their asses despite their constant concern trolling. I mean like holy shit, fucking McCain voted for using the nuclear option.

McCain is a loser and he knows it. Do you even shill?

Whether he did it or not does not matter at this point. Trump sent a clear message to everyone in this region that he would not tolerate any more gas attacks under his watch and he did so in a matter that caused the least casualities.
He constantly shills for everything Dems love.