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卐 - MYTHS ABOUT NATSOC (Part 1) >"National Socialism is just (((socialism)))"
Marxist (Left) socialism and National (Right) Socialism are "antipodal zeitgeists engaged in dialectic". That's a fancy way to say they're opposite ideologies designed to clash, like Yin and Yang.
NatSoc was fundamentally an ideology built around race, while Marxist socialism was entirely different: built around class. Hitler aimed to unite the right and left, including workers and their bosses, into a new German nation based on racial identity. Socialism, in contrast, was a class war between workers, bosses, and owners (Capitalists), aiming to build a workers state in which race and gender were insignificant. Socialists, especially Marxist socialists, were anti-religious atheists, whereas NatSoc went so far as to make Christianity the religion of the state.
The differences go on and on: Marxist socialism was internationalist, NatSoc was nationalist. Marxist socialism was egalitarian, whereas NatSoc believed that nature was unequal and required competition. Marxist socialism wanted to nationalize all private industry, while NatSoc privatized every major industry except the railroads (it considered these a military asset. In fact, Hitler once joked "they didn't need to nationalize property because they nationalized people". NatSoc drew on a range of pan-German theories, which wanted to blend Aryan workers and Aryan magnates into a super Aryan state, which would involve the eradication of class-focused socialism as a non-German ideology.
Jeremiah Bennett
卐 - MYTHS ABOUT NATSOC (Part 2) >"National Socialism is just (((socialism)))"
NatSoc redefined socialism as "Germanism/Volkism", which they saw as "producer-oriented capitalism", as opposed to "Jewish capitalism", aka, international finance, globalism, wall street, etc. In theory, NatSoc economics was a version of Keynesianism, tailored to the Völkisch nature of whichever people adopted it. Its not one dogmatic economic system,and Hitler often joked that the lack of a specific ideology was their strength. NatSoc could be more "free market" as Americans know it, or less. But NatSoc is always in favor of the Volk over economic identity, of "producer capitalism" over "finance capitalism".
Hitler tried to clarify the distinction in 1938: >“’Socialist’ I define from the word ‘social’ meaning in the main ‘social equity’. A Socialist is one who serves the common good without giving up his individuality or personality or the product of his personal efficiency. >Our adopted term ‘Socialist has nothing to do with Marxian Socialism. ((((Marxism))) is anti-property; true socialism is not. ((((Marxism))) places no value on the individual, or individual effort, of efficiency; true Socialism values the individual and encourages him in individual efficiency, at the same time holding that his interests as an individual must be in consonance with those of the community. All great inventions, discoveries, achievements were first the product of an individual brain. It is charged against me that I am against property, that I am an atheist. Both charges are false.”
卐 - MYTHS ABOUT NATSOC (Part 3) >"National Socialism / Fascism was a failed system"
It's intellectually dishonest to label something that was forcibly crushed a "failed system", implying that a nation bombed into collapse during war is comparable to a system imploding politically during peace-time. The Soviet system failed, as did the Roman Empire, and every Chinese or Ottoman dynasty. Some of these examples of government lasted thousands of years, while some didn't last more than a generation. All forms of government inevitably fail. This has been true since ancient times. Polybius famously articulated this process of Anacyclosis: social organization paradigms rise, fail, and give way to further systems. This is the cycle of history.
Fascism is not a failed system, it was a defeated system: A.) it was not an economic system, but a social one; B.) the so-called "failed system" had a control group: the US. Germany, Italy, and the US were operating under Keynesean policies; only one of them won the war, and experienced a massive period of growth once their industrial rivals were destroyed. So no, it wasn't a failed system, because both sides were using it, including the side that won.
卐 - MYTHS ABOUT NATSOC (Part 4) >Lebensraum: 'Lebensraum' is often intentionally exaggerated by those wanting to push the fractal "Hitler planned to exterminate all races" meme. The actual meaning of Lebensraum referred to the security of the German borders, and the need to provide living space so that Germans aren't threatened by outside forces. To claim that "living space" meant solely "to exterminate and re-populate more land than there would have been Germans to inhabit, for several generations after the war" is absurd, and contradicts the policies of "Germanization" that were ACTUALLY PRACTICED by the Germans regarding their Slavic allies:
Hitler didn't consider Russians subhuman. He considered them inferior. Because in terms of living, they were. Seriously, look at the living style of the average Soviet, then compare them to a German in 1930, they were, by all accounts inferior. He even talks about how some Russians of the old rich class were Germanic. There were multiple reasons for the invasion of the Soviet Union, for example: >1. To gain the necessary resources to fuel a long time war, something that Germany was severely lacking. >2. To prevent the inevitable invasion of Europe by the Soviet Union. If you gonna start a war, it's best to have the first strike. >3. To disband the Bolshevik and Jewish regime in the Soviet Union, something Hitler knew would be a threat to Germany.
True, the Germans would've gained land from defeating the Soviets and would certainly have sent its citizens into this newfound land, just like the allies did to German clay they gained after WW1 and WW2. The Germans wouldn't have exterminated Russians. They simply would have governed them.
Nolan James
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Jonathan Collins
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Carter Stewart
Interesting stuff.
Xavier Adams
Currently a fascist, as in nationalist and consider meritocracy superior to democracy. Is there any reason I should convert to natsoc?
I think eugenics might work in theory, but it seems kind of immoral since it's "ends justify the means".
Wyatt Davis
Have this bunch of patterns i made in a traditional natsoc fashion. Wish i knew what you call it in English. Heil.
Daniel Williams
If you care about morality made by societies rather than biblical morality than please stop and take some time to read Nietzche.
John Morris
What eugenics desu?
Aiden Smith
That's looks really neat!
Seig Hail!
Brandon Harris
I only care about what feels right and wrong to me. It's subjective of course, I can't tell you or anyone else that you should have the same morals as I do.
Heh, I assume you're a Holocaust denier? But do you also deny that the NSDAP advocated forced sterilization of "undesirables"?
Henry Butler
They wanted a Germany for Germans that was about it and that seems like a very fair request
Luke Gray
I'm not sure what I would call this. A seal with various coats of arms? Bretty neat regardless, user.
Should undesirables not be removed from the gene pool? I mean retarded people, dwarves, and the like.
Camden Green
All peoples should be confined to their own ethnic borders of countries. Interaction will be internet, trade, tourism and visiting, but no migrations. All migrations carried out by refugees fleeing a war will be impossible because with isolated countries there is still one ideology and communism and islamism and basically any religious terrorist type radicalism will be punishable by work camps od death if expressed in public depending on the severety. Those who mix their race while on tourist visits will have their children, if they get them, sterilized and let go. But none shalp breed for they will be the last of their mutt race. Just a quasi-ethnic European pattern.
Cooper Garcia
You're a fucking psycho m8. Looks like one NATO bombing campaign wasn't enough.
Jacob Moore
I have a tick where i blink too much and i have an addiction to drinking sprite. Is that undesirable?
Sebastian Smith
>They wanted a Germany for Germans that was about it and that seems like a very fair request If that's really all they wanted, then I agree.
>Should undesirables not be removed from the gene pool? I mean retarded people, dwarves, and the like. I don't think the benefits of that are clear enough to justify limiting people's freedom to procreate.
I agree that a country should be able to deport non-ethnic citizens, but forced sterilization goes too far imho.
Thomas Campbell
What is your problem though, Jew?
Joseph Ramirez
a mixed person sterilized per day keeps the filth of the gene pool away
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Ian Wilson
All this talk of sterilization, holocaust, white supremacy is all just a hoax to discredit national socialism Pic related
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Ryder Scott
Hitler will go down in history as the new Christ. Trump/Kushner will be the new antichrist.
Parker Hughes
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Adrian Kelly
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Levi Bailey
Okay. But the way you describe it, national socialism seems pretty much identical to fascism. So why describe yourself as a national socialist, and not just fascist?
Easton Davis
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Leo Sanders
>Queen of spades tattoo Shoot on sight boys!
Matthew Walker
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Colton Torres
>Butthurt Polack nigger tries to discredit natsoc by podting pictures of edgy niggerloving whores
Brandon Hughes
>Is that undesirable? kek, you should be good
>I don't think the benefits of that are clear enough to justify limiting people's freedom to procreate. At some point, you need to prioritize the survival of your nation and race over individual freedoms. Where you draw that line is really up to you. Again, NatSoc is not particularly concerned with maximizing personal freedoms. A couple's offspring exists to benefit their nation as a whole, not just the family.
Isaac Cox
LOL posting in NSG as a Polak, what a fucking cuck u are
Christopher Peterson
He's posting mudsharks.
Hudson Green
>checked but natsoc has to do more with preserving race and is based more on race than fascism
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Luke Hughes
That's what I thought, but the Indian guy seemed to say that the racism was just something used to discredit natsoc.
Ryder Morris
National socialism is like socialism 2.0 it's not nationalism +socialism but socialism through the nations Perspective it's breaks our slave chain and makes sure that slaves don't become the new slave owners.
Sebastian Clark
well its not racism, national socialists doesnt hate other races, they just prefer and want to preserve their own
Landon Myers
Not about one race but about keeping every living race pure. Rsce mixing is both white genocide and colored genocide
>Posting the scholar jew so much fake info out there that people actually believe it.
Tyler Long
>Winners write history the post
Alexander Johnson
>>info >>Analysis-of-Nazi-Propaganda.pdf >>Analysis Its based on your beloved Nazi propaganda pieces and analyzes it from behavioral point of view. >>Implying you can get the difference
Landon Gonzalez
lol
Nolan Martin
The crazy thing is Trump made me LESS racist. And I was not for an ethnostate because its messy. I mean where is the dividing line. But now? Its our only option, its all we got. I am now for an ethnostate.
Jaxson Wilson
Anyone got that photo of an Aryan girl with protruding nipples working a farm?
Nolan Fisher
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Elijah Scott
Alt-Left General Help keep this alive friends, we need to take the board back from reddit
Benjamin Brooks
Fuck off.
John Cook
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