/pp/ — Portuguese Politics: "Expulsion From Spain" Edition

Time for another /pp/ thread, maninhos de outra mãe. As always, Brits, Brazilians and Spaniards are VIP. Post Salazar, Portuguese Pepes, based codfish macros, cute Iberian women and tell Mário Soares to FUCK OFF in Hell!

>Thread theme:
youtube.com/watch?v=csBCT03jO4Q

News:

>Nearly a thousand Portuguese high-school seniors expelled from Spanish hotel during end of year trip
observador.pt/2017/04/08/mil-estudantes-portugueses-expulsos-do-hotel-em-viagem-de-finalistas-a-espanha/

(Sorry, Spainbros)

>Traditionalist, Neo-Reactionary and Monarchist websites:
biclaranja.blogs.sapo.pt/
portadaloja.blogspot.pt/
novoadamastor.blogspot.com/
portugalcontemporaneo.blogspot.com/
o-povo.blogspot.com/
totalitarismouniversalista.blogspot.com/
accao-integral.blogspot.com/
espectivas.wordpress.com/

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politica.elpais.com/politica/2017/04/08/actualidad/1491670926_082547.html
youtube.com/watch?v=JT-yUR-Ocm0
publico.pt/2017/04/08/politica/noticia/notaveis-da-direita-querem-d-duarte-no-protocolo-do-estado-1768157
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the generation of whores and idiots what do you expect?
smoking weed and getting drunk is the way to be "cool"

>mfw know a 4/10 girl that is a 9/10 to me just because she's redpilled about pretos, ciganos and comunas
>mfw she's also my best friend's gf

Que vergonha de ver o Bloco a mandar no país. Como deixámos isto acontecer?

I think it's disgusting desu. How can acting like a nigger and a total savage be considered "cool" nowadays? Gosh, I want the monarchy back so bad. Or at least Salazar.

Be glad for your friend. What does she say about them, by the way? And don't worry friend, you'll find a girlfriend too. And remember that you can still red pill a girl if she's moderately intelligent and receptive to your ideas.

(((They))) rule us since '74. I find it absolutely disgusting how our education system is teaching kids outright falsities about Estado Novo and pre-democratic Portugal.

politica.elpais.com/politica/2017/04/08/actualidad/1491670926_082547.html
Kek, and I thought we were the niggers, we clearly have the same genes.

Cut from the same cloth, senpai.

propaganda multicultural durante décadas

youtube.com/watch?v=JT-yUR-Ocm0

1974 was a mistake

I need a shirt saying that then I'm gonna take a walk in Rua Augusta

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A APOLOGIA DO FASCISMO É PROIBIDA PELA CONSTITUIÇÃO.

>Pára de ser negro.

Boa ideia.

How do portuguese anons feel about us bombing macau in ww2?

you entered in the ww2? we were neutral.
But our government of those times was pretty pro axis.

SALAZAR DID NOTHING WRONG

Correct.

Let me ask you tugas a question, so Salazar only eliminated the debt because of the colonies? If the same were to happen nowadays would it work without the colonies?

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It was autarky, industrial development and rejection of foreign markets as well. However it came at the cost of Portugal's education and healthcare which were both shite.

>How do portuguese anons feel about us bombing macau in ww2?
we don't, first time I heard that lol
and fuck me if I care about those chinks

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not to mention we were in stone age technology, you always will need to learn from each other, the industry was way far behind the average in europe

>so Salazar only eliminated the debt because of the colonies?
No. Basically he prevented excessive public spending, socialists governments haven't figured out that you can't spend more than you earn.
So basically he managed public spending properly, imposed some austerity so we could pay the fucking debt that we got from the First Republic and then start producing things in order to reduce imports.
And voilá that's it

Hello, neighbors

Hello based Spanish.

Finalmente ha uma thread assim.

Do you guys have any political party who will make Portugal Great Again?

it will be a bit hard for him to return since he's dead...
since 1970...

No, unfortunately. Also, cute gif.

No and fuck democracy. The army has to make a coup. They have that debt to Portugal actually.

but the colonies also helped right?

whats wrong with portugal is it fuckd up like here with shieety goverment and stuff

Love Obidos =)

That's sad. We have the same problem here too. I guess the only hope is the Carlist Party which has laughable votes.
Portuguese Civil War when?

Of course. We are ruled by foreign entities since 1974.

Nothing triggers autists here than North Secession

How was your day mate?

Nope. And our Constitution prevents parties that are too far-right because they can be labeled as fascist.
Without a military coup we won't have that. And then you have two more problems.
One is that the military is full of useless parasites and useless morons, the second is that even if the coup would be successful you don't have anyone, not a single personality that could occupy the several cabinets in the government.

>but the colonies also helped right?
mostly Angola and Mozambique with some raw materials. Not from a taxes we charged there.

>Portuguese Civil War when?
It should have started by now. It's much more probable that you'd invade us before that happens.

Not really pro-axis. Salazar was just aware that after the defeat of Germany lots of commie shit would be coming from the USSR.

The only one that opposes multiculturaliism is called Pnr, they are growing but still to low.

more Estado Novo red pills

Joining the army, AMA

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Do you mean treason to Portugal lack of honour and lies against your own countrymen from south and center. you behave like the leftists

Day was pretty comfy here in Asturias. Too bad everyone here is hyper lefty as shit, they even labelled a fucking centrist party as fascist lol. Hope you guys make at the end of all this.

It's funny that everyone that was in school at those times says that both school and university was better and students were better prepared than the are today. Also, education and healthcare is still shit today. It's just leftist propaganda.

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De que curso universitário é que vocẽs são?

can someone redpill me on salazar? was he /ourguy/?

He was literally, unironically, seriously /ourguy/

Historically , they were pro-axis till they see germany lost the war. In the thirties, members of nsdap marched in lisbon with mocidade, with thousands of people there.

He was /ourguy/ as big as they come.

that wasn't the main factor. If we had joined the Axis, Britain and its Royal Navy would cut our access to the colonies

Raça mestre Transmotana-Beirã a reportar!

I think the only realist solution wouldn't really include "countries" but ideologies, like whole fascists/salazarists/falangists uniting, claiming a region and declare independence because were simply in opposition to leftists and democracy isn't taking us nowhere.
Let the leftists get everything South of the river Tagus for all I care.
Small countries all the way, and the more people agree with the same ideal the better, otherwise there's no unity and we are just citizens of the same geopolitical entity but with no connection to each other.

Informática @ IST

Depends what you mean. He was far from being a fascist, and had nothing in common with say a Nacional Socialism.
He was the most devout Catholic this country has seen in government. He actually studied in a seminar, but he left for some reason to go to Uni.
Basically he saw Fascism Caeserism as too pagan and materialistic and he felt the same way with NS being centred in the concept of race.
Remember we're all children of God.
With this, I don't mean to imply that Salazar was a fan of multiculturalism.
Niggers should stay in the colonies.
The Portuguese also living in the colonies was just a necessity because someone has to rule over niggers

Are you japanese or american living in Brazil?

If not, I'm not understanding the "us".

Não vou dizer, data mining CIA.

Expelling from some high-school youngsters = Political discussion of country

Fodasse . Não é desta que o OP acerta com as notícias para a discussão.

I don't know shit about you guys other than port wine, sardines and pic related.
Anything I need to know?
Also, do you all secretly want to blow CR7?

what's his legacy? do Portuguese people like him?

And it's not this time you got "foda-se" spelled right, cunt.

t. OP

is that what portugal weather is like lol

no, sometimes he acts in a shameful way for us.

It's good to see this. On YouTube there is so many Leftist idiots from Spain taking bad about Franco

I know that guy is called Pepe,but he is a Brazilian.

>legacy
kept country out of two world wars; record GDP growth during regime; kept the country from falling into communist hands until '74; erased public debt; fought for family values; taught people to read and write

>do Portuguese people like him?
It's a divisive issue, although I believe you can openly praise him in most circles. Pic related is the voting for the name of our new airport. he also won a TV contest in '05 for Greatest Portuguese Ever with 41% of the vote and is regarded as the most influential statist of Portugal in the 20th century.

His legacy was maintaining the Portuguese Empire and it's colonies until his death. Then Caetanos took over and was coup'd.
He was voted best Portuguese in history once.

Sorry I'm a fucking idiot. I meant he kept the country out of World War 2, and not two world wars.

>his legacy

Is controversial.

É difícl espetar 5 links na thread. Já viste as threads de ontem dos espanhóis. Crl,

Até tens esta notícia para monárquicos.

publico.pt/2017/04/08/politica/noticia/notaveis-da-direita-querem-d-duarte-no-protocolo-do-estado-1768157

Ronaldo need to stop putting so much tan.

Ok, sorry for being mean to you.

Also being a Conservative, traditionalist Catholic and not a fucking Leftist shit

Basically our history is:
Reconquer land from the moors, then prevent the Spaniards to take it.
The XIV-XVII centuries was our golden age.
in 1820 we got Liberalism and with it we changed to a Constitutional Monarchy and then when everything started to turn to shit.
The monarchy was overthrown, the First Republic was the shitiest period of our history.
Then there was a coup and the Estado Novo started. It was great.
Then in 1974 the Estado Novo ended and it started the current third republic where nothing works and every 20 years we go bankrupt

Old people do, specially because they felt safe and understood the world, not this modern degeneracy.
Some youngsters also like him too, but many are just posers, a bit like all the nazis who don't know shit about Nacional Socialism but they just want to be edgy.
But very few express their opinions publicly.
I don't think I ever found someone who liked gipsies, or who wants niggers here, they just shrug as if there's nothing we can do. And they don't like to express controversial opinions.
The portuguese are the embodiment of inertia

we basically have 6 months of summer, 4 of spring and 2 of winter. But even in winter there's many sunny days or that doesn't rain at all.

and dick up his ass

Well it's good that you don't blindly praise him.
But I kinda wanted to know more about your country. Is it good being a portobro or what?
(I asked this same thing to a based Roach and he admitted his country was shit, which is the type of info I'm looking for)

Duvido que jamais teremos um governo de direita na proxima decada devido a esta "aliança de esquerda" a nao ser que surja uma nova força politica decente a direita do psd/cds duvido que a direita consiga uma maioria nos tempos proximos

I very much like our history and it is undeniable we were one of the greatest warriors and forces in the world. However, I absolutely hate modern Portuguese society. We all sit our asses and watch soccer and drink beer.

Thanks for answering my question below.
>and every 20 years we go bankrupt
Do you guys need strict structure to keep order or what? Germanics have internalized order to the point where we won't cross a street if the there's a red light for minutes even though there are no cars nearby for miles. Mostly germans but we have some degree of that too.

With our dimension i doubt that any other european country has the rich and glorious history that we have, probably only netherlands and greece can compare to it.

>Careful João we don't want to damage the casinos!

>We all sit our asses and watch soccer and drink beer.
I didn't know Modern Portuguese were the same as Modern Spaniards.

You had 2 times more slaves then population during 1500s and 1600s yet Niggers think it's USA (witch did not exist at it's time) who brought them in

muito obrigado!

>We all sit our asses and watch soccer and drink beer.
Sounds comfy tho. Me and my buddies often envy the southern mentality (we watch alot of spanish football)

>I absolutely hate modern Portuguese society. We all sit our asses and watch soccer and drink beer.

It looks like we were never prepared to discuss political / sociological. Again, democracy was a mistake.

The economical crisis and high corruption even led to more brain drain and allowing low IQ have more power in voting - primarly in shitty parties - left populism and shiet.

vai pro caralho velha de merda, cheiras a ganza e tens um macaco no nariz

What went wrong?

SHHHHHHHHHH

De nada! :3

I mean.... Yeah, it's pretty comfy. But it's like watching a fire slowly fade into obscurity. We conform and we know something is wrong, but we feel helpless and unable to fix it. We have chronic debt, crippling unemployment, the youth is slowly becoming more and more degenerate, we have an enormous welfare state that should be slashed to kingdom come... But it's impossible. We're all hooked on dem gibs.

Democracy was a mistake for the entire world, user.

pcp, cds, be, psd, psd are all the same.

Something went wrong in Iberia during industrial revolution,..and then 1974.....

It was the British that brough some. We weren't the only one in Gold Coast - Western Africa.

Part of them being from Angola - Kingdom of Ndongo / Kongo and its vassals must be primarly Portuguese slave traders. But we didn't capture them.

ya know i watched this guy on YouTube and i have to say this guy is right on almost everything he says but the Brazilians that like to fuck around in Portugal seem to be all the non whites.

Confirmado que esse Bragança é um traidor. Ligações à Maçonaria.

ive also read a lot of cancer when it comes to Brazilian and Portuguese people arguing over who is white or not

>Portuguese Politics: "Expulsion From Spain" Edition
Daily reminder that Spain's military is a joke.

>Do you guys need strict structure to keep order or what?
Yes, we as a people need strong authorities to make us function properly and efficiently otherwise the southern/med genes will kick off and our laziness takes over.
Our socialists (and basically the rest of the left) hasn't understood that we can't spend more than what we earn with taxes or that we actually have to pay the debt we currently have.
They have no idea about how to make a proper fiscal law.
Instead of having a small state and keep our taxes low, we have a huge one and keep increasing taxes to pay for it. What we can't get in taxes we get from (((foreign loans))).
>Germanics have internalized order to the point where we won't cross a street if the there's a red light for minutes even though there are no cars nearby for miles.
were the complete opposite
Not sure if its your kind of reading but Léon Degrelle gives a good example of the difference of mentalities when he compares German to Italian and Spanish soldiers personalities.

it's just the modern hedonism, it's everywhere
Most people spend years without reading a book, and when they do is some shit like 50 shades of grey or some garbage written by Nicholas Sparks.

Παραkαλώ

I haven't watched that much about him desu.
The few things I remember are from what I watched on TV, so it's basically the same as having no opinion.
They were into some shady businesses tho

não digas disparates...

What do you mean what went wrong? we have problems,just like all nations have it. Economic issues can be changed as they have been in the past. Our problem is lefist mentality, multiculturalist one, etc. and of course, in the 90's we thought, we were very rich and unstoppable so w "destroyed" our industry

>We have chronic debt, crippling unemployment, the youth is slowly becoming more and more degenerate, we have an enormous welfare state that should be slashed to kingdom come... But it's impossible. We're all hooked on dem gibs.
It's the natural cycle. Happened to the Romans too you know. The Greeks... Every great civilization. Hard times may be on the horizon, but atleast it will weed out the degenerates.

>How can acting like a nigger and a total savage be considered "cool" nowadays?
Due to jewish influence through the media.

Anyway, I don't think drinking and smoking weed is nigger behaviour. Nigger behaviour is shoplifting, armed robbery, rape, murder, grand theft auto and chimping out when you are called a monkey.

NO something seriously went wrong. You were leaders in age of discovery you had Henry the Navigator, then Magellan and all those people going around the world taking over, establishing colonies becoming rich...and then something went seriously wrong and you become just random nation with no serious influence like we.
Very strange, as if someone sabotaged you.

Don't say that Portubro, that was rightfully portugal clay,I went there and even if im not portuguese I felt more comfy than elsewhere in asia.

England duh

I wonder how the Portuguese always managed to beat Spain. Was it because Portugal had better military technology? Or a very good strategic position?

Well, sure. Getting screwed over by the Iberian Union and a massive earthquake which destroyed 80% of all standing buildings in Lisbon can do that to you.

And the final nail in Portugal's coffin was placed by an international coalition during the Colonial War and then by a bunch of traitorous socialist rats in the Carnation Revolution.