Sup Forums, why do you allow mr CEO to seize the means of your work...

Sup Forums, why do you allow mr CEO to seize the means of your work? You do know that this is what fascism and capitalism actually do, right? Why don't you advocate for a stateless, classless, moneyless society where you own the fruit of your labor?

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yeah fuck those guys that run the business. i'm sure jamal in the mail room could run the company just fine

>stateless

Who arrests and executes criminals?

you've never employed another human being in your entire life have you

If society goes moneyless we'll find something else to use as currency, most likely women and drugs

Yeah, so everyone is poor and a few are super rich?

Compared to, some are poor, some are middleish, some are well off, and some are super rich.

Because that's how socialism and capitalism have always worked.

Slaves as well, when people aren't paid they don't like to work so they have to be compelled, the idealistic commies don't know they will be working in the mines or the fields or will be shot.

>you've never employed another human being in your entire life have you

I'd wager not even gainfully employed and living at college and/or off mummy and daddy.

Today I will remind them

Cause I don't want to live in a hellhole, thanks :)

communists arent allowed here, go to the gas chamber.

Because every time someone attempts socialism they fuck up even more catastrophically than the capitalists do

>b-b-b-but it wasn't TRUE socialism/communism

No shit, but if you can't make it fucking work why should I listen to you?

So start your own business then, or does that sound like too much work?

There is literally nothing stopping you from creating your utopian commune business right now, oh well, except you'll have to compete with the capitalists, and your own workers as a bunch of retards try to decide how to share work and profit

We're internationalists, we go wherever we please.

>an eye for an eye
In Socialism, everyone is essentially self-employed. There's no micromanagement, no wagecuckery. The harder you work the larger share of profits form a business you cooperatively participate you will receive instead of some lazy boss passively getting wealthy why slave away for a few bucks an hour no matter how hard you work.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_each_according_to_his_contribution

So you admit you've never held a job then?

Actually, uncle Joseph owns the fruit of commie labor and if you demand even slices you will get no slices.

>Why don't you advocate for a stateless, classless, moneyless society where you own the fruit of your labor?

lets do a thought experiment:

How does one advocate for a stateless classless society?

Either 1: within the democratic system or 2: violent revolution.

If 1, explain how you will force the people you elect into power to give up their power

If 2, explain how you will keep from being shot if you are successful. (and explain how the hell you think you would be successful)

faggot.

Managers can be paid a wage like everyone else, you know. This need not come from your labor value. Also, if workers ran the company, they could fire the manager if he was misbehaving.

/leftypol/ faggots just can't get enough of daddy Sup Forums's delicious cummies
sage

I don't know how you got that from his post. He was explaining to you how socialism works, not his work experience. You are filled with IDEOLOGY

The regards don't want to think that the workers being shareholders would still make the business successful. Because that would contradict their worship of MUH JOB CREATORS.

>regards
Fuck me. I'm a little regarded.

Not an argument. So you never held a job then? Just answer the question. It isn't hard to do.

>He was explaining to you how socialism as imagined* works

Fixed

I've had several jobs. I don't know about the other guy.

Still had nothing to do with the argument at hand.

>duh if u dont liek capitalism just become a capitalist duh doii durr

It does when 96% of communist scum are jobless losers hanging out in their mums basement. They basically are all losers wanting to ruin the world for everyone else because they suck too much. It's a good thing they're all too lazy to go out and vote.

So you bitch all day about your earnings being stolen from you, and yet you're unwilling to change that situation yourself, instead relying on the state to give you free shit

Literal fucking retard can't understand what an idea is. Go back to first grade.

Yeah, that's what all communists are. They hate people being more successful than them. So they figured as long as everybody gets paid the same they won't be as much of a loser.

like gommunism? Because in the free market of ideas it already lost.

>Liberals

Yeah. OK.

>be writer
>own all the means of your labor
>doesn't mean shit
Really makes you think

Wow you must be that retarded redneck everyone's been raving about!

Why should we have to obey a bunch of spooky social norms put forth by porky so he can rake in another 10 bill? Fuck that, I'll mooch off of taxpayer money.

Wow so a writer
>owns the printer machines
>owns the marketing team
>owns the distributors
>you're a fucking moron

>F-fucking redneck retard!
Sorry kiddo, but this is an 18+ website.

Jesus I nearly forgot that communism was when ya just want to give people equal pay

I'm not sure I can explain what it means to actually be against capitalism to you. Protip: it doesn't have anything to do with wanting to accumulate wealth.

Leftypol actually likes rednecks. We just don't like classcucked retarded rednecks.

Then print your own shit, market your own shit, and distribute your own shit

Oh wait, you're a moron, and can't compete with the capitalists

Not sure you could say that anymore when this subreddit is dominated by T_D

Do you think monopolies should be allowed?

It's about being a parasite, the best thing you could do is hang yourself, leave more air to the rest of us

>Be a capitalist
>Know that I don't produce anything, I just use money to justify taking what others produce
>Never work an honest day in my life
>Convince some retards that I'm a job creator and nobody would make anything without me
>Watch as they fight against the ones who see how worthless I am

Makers and takers, m80. Don't let the takers cuck you.

Sorry, kid. Hate to burst your bubble. But I'm a city dwelling film editor with a high pay grade. Unlike you I don't get mad when a person gets paid more than me. It's called being mature. Now please, grow up some, hun.

Why should I bother with an ideology who's adherents (when they achieve power over a country) are so incompetent they can't even out-compete ostensibly inferior societies?

I mean if capitalist societies are so godawfully terrible the bar of superiority must be pretty fucking low, yet the USSR/China etc couldn't even manage that

how many upvotes were you expecting to get with these clever puns fellow redditor?

>Can't compete with the capitalists
Are you an idiot or what? It's a well observed fact that the capitalist class gets increasingly smaller and owns more wealth. Just because you're a petty-bourg doesn't mean you are ''successful'' in the capitalist sense of the word. Faggot.

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>Synonyms: socialism
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE DELETE THIS BOURGEOIS PROPAGANDA, COMRADE!

>Disagree with someone
>call them a retard, redneck and whatever bad words come to my infantile mind
Typical leftypol. No wonder they can't get jobs.

>It's called being mature. Now please, grow up some, hun.

>anyone who gets mad at the current state of being is "immature"

How convenient

Don't all these people have the right to own their own labor too?

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If nobody can compete with the monopoly then the monopoly remains, but there has almost never been any real monopolies, almost every case of actual monopoly has been caused by regulation disallowing fair competition

Just look at the US insurance market where to protect consumers they give a few select companies the right to provide insurance and disallow competitors

THOU SHALT NOT COVET, SINNER.

>a grandmother that owns shares in a corporation own the means of production
>a CEO that makes $5 million/year but doesn't have any assets is a prole worker that is my equal

Capitalism ≠ corporatism

Please, son. Stop blaming society for problems you make yourself. You're not making money because you're not even trying.

If you just realized this then you'd be so much more successful in life. I guarantee it.

Please, just try. You make me sad when I think how pathetic you must be living.

You're either going to find out for yourself just where you stand in this system or you're going to be a forever belligerent pawn under the thumb of your masters for all of time. Don't be a cuck.

>successful socialist economies that were cut down by capitalist imperialism

Is that the communist version of "Adolf Hitler just want to Make Germany Great Again but the meanie anglo-kikes wouldn't let him!"?

>Finally I have created a marxist commune consisting of me, a family friend, three black people, and a pig
>this is the perfect human society
>shit, I am being oppressed by imperialist bandits and have no form of defense
>curse you capitalist scums

The average burger classcuck everyone

Nice meme.

Love how you Sup Forums fags constantly insult us when we use the never been tried argument then you proceed to use it yourselves.

If I tried I could probably make it. Can't say the same for all my comrades in the poorer classes who have to scrape paycheck to paycheck and cannot afford a college education or food to eat for that matter.

But Adolf Hitler did just want to Make Germany Great Again but the meanie anglo-kikes wouldn't let him

>why do you allow mr CEO to seize the means of your work?
Agreed. Every ship with multiple captains always sail better.

GET IN HERE COMRADES

>Calls someone substantially better off and making more than them a cuck
wew

Says the guy who is content being at the bottom and bitch, I am content with what I have and get, you meanwhile sound like a miserable cuck feeding off others

Fuck off commie. Sage

Maby ;)

Reminder you fucking morons, do not respond to slide theads

In a stateless world, there are no criminals because everything's legal.

Yes. They own their labor. It's the means of production that must be seized so the true value of labor, without an exploiting class, can be contributed to society.

I do own the fruit of my labor. If I make my own business.

I use a company's products, machinery, designs, shipping, and customer base, I need to work on their terms.

Glorious Nazbolism

>worker in mailroom makes as much as a regional manager

Where is the motivation to advance? Humans work off of greed and that leads them to make things bigger and better to get ahead and thats why as the Soviets stagnated in technology and luxury America prospered to the point that a monkey on welfare was better off then the average Soviet worker.

Face it capitalism is the best system.

Praise The Nazbol Party

t. bootlicker

Then I legally form a new state

Let me tell you a secret. My dad was a poor fag. He lived in a trailer park with an abusive step dad. If he wanted to he could've just stayed in that class range, but he didn't. He worked hard and then got an education so he could afford a nice life and have his children get a nice life too. And if I wanted to I could just give up and be trailer trash as well, but because I didn't I feel accomplished and can afford nice things. If people wanted to, they could all do what my dad did. Anybody can. But because they'd rather blame anybody else than themselves they never improve upon themselves. And that's what capitalism is essentially; people improving themselves because they're the product.

>when u take the naz-bol-asserist-islamocommunist pill

So what does this changes for writers? Or teachers, musicians and translators of eromanga?

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WHEN YOUR ECONOMY COLLAPSES BUT IT'S OKAY BECAUSE IT WASN'T REAL CAPITALISM SO YOU BAIL THEM OUT WITH THE PEOPLE'S MONEY AND TRY AGAIN AND YOUR ECONOMY COLLAPSES BUT IT'S OKAY BECAUSE IT WASN'T REAL CAPITALISM SO YOU BAIL THEM OUT WITH THE PEOPLE'S MONEY AND TRY AGAIN AND YOUR ECONOMY COLLAPSES BUT IT'S OKAY BECAUSE IT WASN'T REAL CAPITALISM SO YOU BAIL THEM OUT WITH THE PEOPLE'S MONEY AND TRY AGAIN AND YOUR ECONOMY COLLAPSES BUT IT'S OKAY BECAUSE IT WASN'T REAL CAPITALISM SO YOU BAIL THEM OUT WITH THE PEOPLE'S MONEY AND TRY AGAIN AND YOUR ECONOMY COLLAPSES BUT IT'S OKAY BECAUSE IT WASN'T REAL CAPITALISM SO YOU BAIL THEM OUT WITH THE PEOPLE'S MONEY AND TRY AGAIN AND YOUR ECONOMY COLLAPSES BUT IT'S OKAY BECAUSE IT WASN'T REAL CAPITALISM SO YOU BAIL THEM OUT WITH THE PEOPLE'S MONEY AND TRY AGAIN AND YOUR ECONOMY COLLAPSES BUT IT'S OKAY BECAUSE IT WASN'T REAL CAPITALISM SO YOU BAIL THEM OUT WITH THE PEOPLE'S MONEY AND TRY AGAIN AND YOUR ECONOMY COLLAPSES BUT IT'S OKAY BECAUSE IT WASN'T REAL CAPITALISM SO YOU BAIL THEM OUT WITH THE PEOPLE'S MONEY AND TRY AGAIN AND YOUR ECONOMY COLLAPSES BUT IT'S OKAY BECAUSE IT WASN'T REAL CAPITALISM SO YOU BAIL THEM OUT WITH THE PEOPLE'S MONEY AND TRY AGAIN AND YOUR ECONOMY COLLAPSES BUT IT'S OKAY BECAUSE IT WASN'T REAL CAPITALISM SO YOU BAIL THEM OUT WITH THE PEOPLE'S MONEY AND TRY AGAIN AND YOUR ECONOMY COLLAPSES BUT IT'S OKAY BECAUSE IT WASN'T REAL CAPITALISM SO YOU BAIL THEM OUT WITH THE PEOPLE'S MONEY AND TRY AGAIN AND

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>I am content with what I have and get
You get fucked in the ass by your boss and thank him for it. You're a fucking blind reactionary who refuses to even try to learn a single dissenting idea.

Because they're not smart enough to start their own business and don't want to risk what little they have to start a failing business. No one is "seizing our means of work" you agreed to a certain wage, it's your choice, no one is forcing you to do it.

Everyone should be forced to take the naz-bol-asserist-islamocommunist pill. Failure to do so will result in death

>CEOs can somehow """seize""" the means by engaging in voluntary transactions

W E W L A D

>so what do you do about the entire legal system law enforcement system in place?
>eye for an eye
Babbys first political opinion?

This is the strangest timeline.

>Work to make someone else rich or starve

But it's OK. You get to pick your own master, wageslave. It's VOLUNTARY!

>seized production
>capitalism
Pick one

Says the guy who gets fucked in the ass by society because he doesn't like work

Luckily I enjoy my work consisting of striking the heads of brainless dissenters with a baton

Indeed

cuck

Do you mean like Cuba or Venezuela? Get the fuck out of here commie trash view the image for a reality check faggot