Yfw Eric Jon Phelps and David Icke were the only (((conspiracy theorists))) that didn't fall for the Trump kool-aid

>yfw Eric Jon Phelps and David Icke were the only (((conspiracy theorists))) that didn't fall for the Trump kool-aid

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Eric Jon Phelps has been dropping red pills for a long time.

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I was liking Phelps until he started pushing flat earth bullshit. Now even Icke is doing so. Well, he's saying "it's all an illusion mate so it doesn't matter what shape it is" or something.

I still want to read Phelps' book on the Jesuit iexecutions. Jesuits definitely have shady dealings since their formation. The message is sometimes better than the messenger.

I'm really wary of all conspiracy theorists. They have ties to arms of scientology that are little known by the general public. Josh Reeves has exposed a few of them in his videos.

Phelps and Icke are absolutely hip to the satanic angle, which is pretty important imo. Yeah I agree about the flat earth stuff though, for example a lot of it based on those flawed experiments in Zetetic Astronomy, and I'm sure if youre autistic enough you could show naval operations and movements pointing to the globe model. For example U-boat operations in the South Atlantic in WW2. Haven't done it myself admittedly.

Some people get hung up on certain things they have a hard-on for. Like Icke with his ooga-booga friend he always brings up, as if Zulu oral tradition means fuck all at the end of the day. Still though, I think it's important for us to remember where we all stand and not fall for another trap like Trump in the future.

Phelps is also an extremely strong proponent for separation of the races, and secession. He also supports a separate nation for the niggers somewhere within the continental United States. Realistically, that's the only way that's going to happen. Niggers are not going to wilfully go back to Africa, so unless they are physically removed the best we can hope for is a migration to a new black nation here.

I'm actually interested in Credo Mutwa and hidden black traditions and the Sirius origin, in spite of generally hating their cultures both in the new world and in modern Africa. It's lightyears better than kangs mythology.

I believe the origins of that myth stem from the Genesis 6 event.

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Insane conspiracy-theorists like this are the ones that discredit actual valid theories. These people are just in it to make money.
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>Insane conspiracy-theorists like this are the ones that discredit actual valid theories.

I know, why can't everyone be like based Alex Jones shilling for Trump every chance he got this past year

No but for example if you criticize the general explanation of 9/11 you get thrown in the same spot as the 9/11 truthers.

Reptilian theory is valid. Where do you think dinosaurs went? Why is every religion full of dragon and serpent stories connected with great evils in mankind's past?

So? Pro tip : if you spend your energy and time tip-toeing around things to make sure you don't get branded with undesirables, you're never going to get anywhere. Yes, David Icke's reptillian shit is hogwash. That doesn't have anything to do with the fact that him and Phelps were the only (((conspiracy theorists))) or (((truthers))) who did not jump on the Trump bandwagon that I have found. Does that lend credence to certain other things they talk about? No, of course not. It's just a statement of fact. I think it is important to remember however that most every "alternate media" type was totally up Trump's ass until just recently. And Alex Jones on his show today (I hardly ever listen, but a video was posted earlier today so I clicked on his show) came out as a chesscuck.

>Why is every religion full of dragon and serpent stories connected with great evils in mankind's past?
I highly recommend watching some of Heiser's lectures on that stuff. I really wish I didn't have to just point you to youtube videos and instead give you a succinct rundown, but I can't do it justice - there are just too many textual references and connections.

Phelps is one of the few racialists I have heard connect Mexican invasion with the hatred of Protestants and other non-Catholics. Jew conspiracies are very valid, but anyone that says Catholics don't have plans to annihilate the reformation surely don't understand what has been going on the last 400 years.

They may rebrand it Islam (which Rome also founded) or New Age Luciferianism, but by hook or by crook they will have totalitarian NWO religion when the decided time has come.

Yes, that's one of things that really got me interested in what he had to say. That series averting the race war I linked above is also top shelf shit imo. I might be a bit biased of course, growing up in a baptist household, so admittedly I didn't need to be sold too hard on that aspect. I also found some of his material on the Jesuit reductions on the parana river informative as well.

What's Heiser's beef with Sitchen? I thought Sitchen's books were fascinating and answered a lot of questions about gods and myths that I had when studying the classic and ancient world. My introduction to him was his Sitchin debunking videos, and really that left a sour taste for him. He seemed to have little respect for a hard working author and dismissed him as a crackpot in spite of decades of work on Sumerians and the ancient mid-east.

His beef with Sitchin is that Heiser is an Ancient Near Eastern historian, as well as a Bible professor. You can find alot of his work debunking Sitchin. Too many mistranslations, that have to be purposeful. At heart he's an academic, so when someone is trying to push bullshit in a field that he is literally an expert in, he's going to go full autist and make websites and lectures debunking you.

sitchiniswrong.com

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Icke was calling out Saville and other Anglo pedos decades ago, and was right about everything.

Everyone seem to ignore that for some reason

Here we go again. What did I say? I told you. As soon as you woke up to Trump's zionist shit, that you'd get in bed with another zionist. You people are hopeless. David Icke knows it's the Zionist, but is too scared to actually say it, so he says "reptilians". So while he was right sbout Trump, that disqualifies him immediately.

And here's the best bit, Eric Jon Phelps is a true, hardened Zionist. He has monetary and ideological ties to Israel. One through his business with a big Israeli diamond trading company, and the other is some weird christian, anti-catholic religious angle.

He was exposed a DECADE ago. He absolutely blames all of the worlds ills on the Jesuits and his, quote "Vatican Assassins". According him Phelps, the Catholics control America, UK, Australia, Japan, Germany, the media in all those countries. The academic system, everything. And the Zionists are innocent. I'm not making this up. He is a shill. Google "Eric Jon Phelps Diamonds".

This is why you faggots will never win. You don't research who you promote.
>Gee whizz! Another guy to help with the fight!
No.

But he is wrong about Annunaki. It does mean those from heaven coming down to earth.

an: n., sky, heaven; the god An; grain ear/date cluster ('water' + 'high') [AN archaic frequency: 806].
nu: adj. & adv., no, not; without; negative.
na: n., human being; incense [NA archaic frequency: 105; concatenates 3 sign variants].
ki: ki: n., earth; place; area; location; ground; grain ('base' + 'to rise, sprout') [KI archaic frequency: 386; concatenates 2 sign variants].

Not human (alien) from heaven to earth.

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>as if Zulu oral tradition means fuck all at the end of the day
it does
1/ it's not just zulu tradition but continent wide oral tradition that credo mutwa brings up
2/ oral tradition is a redpill: you can test for the veracity of a story when it is told orally, like you cant with the written word
3/ in practice oral traditional people are much more redpilled than we are, jewed as we are by the written jew
4/ they know about ayys and reptilians and alternate realities and spirits and if you take teh Dogon tribe, they even know about Sirius astronomy
just face it our written culture is brainwashing
when mutwa says all africans know about the reptilians and the ayys, i listen
well he actually says that these oral traditions are all over africa, not that all niggers know about them in details
face it dude, thanks to the written jew you are ignorant, just like mass media keeps you dumb and ignorant and falsely proud of false knowledge (educated fools)
you can chalk it up to animality but niggers are connected to physical reality better than we are as a rule
the first thing you do when you want to parasitize someone is you unground him
i dont think it's coincidence that we're the ones letting the jew kill us through propaganda as in making us infertile and welcoming of barbarians
we're the only ones taking that: the nips are infertile but refuse invaders and the other people keep their fertility
i bet it has a lot to do with our culture not just biology
biology>culture>ideology as black pigeon speaks made a video about
we love hating on niggers but even as animals they have a lot to "teach" us through example, just like all animals do
as a rule one doesnt free oneself from oppression of a superior foe while oppressing an inferior
the way we treat our inferiors makes us vulnerable to being treated the same way by our superiors (jews or ayys, i know jews are just parasites and ayys maybe just demons, but it still applies as spiritual parasites are a major issue)

>And here's the best bit, Eric Jon Phelps is a true, hardened Zionist. He has monetary and ideological ties to Israel. One through his business with a big Israeli diamond trading company, and the other is some weird christian, anti-catholic religious angle.
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>He was exposed a DECADE ago. He absolutely blames all of the worlds ills on the Jesuits and his, quote "Vatican Assassins". According him Phelps, the Catholics control America, UK, Australia, Japan, Germany, the media in all those countries. The academic system, everything. And the Zionists are innocent. I'm not making this up. He is a shill. Google "Eric Jon Phelps Diamonds".

>implying we don't know that
Old news bro. Does Phelps love the jews? Yup. He is a hard-line bible thumper. He believes that we will be cursed as a nation if we persecute the jews.

Why throw the baby out with the bathwater? Most of the stuff he says about Jesuits is right on the money, or as Brits like to say "spot on".

Right. So if it's old news and he's in with the "Jews" why give him views? He's a known liar. People need to raise their standards. But they won't, as proved by the whole Trump fiasco.

jesse jumped on icke for what exactly?
what were his arguments?
i'm all for bashing icke but only when it's done from a position of knowledge, understanding and benevolence or at least benevolent indifference
this guy did it right
youtube.com/watch?v=U3QqABvIap8
jesse ventura was just barking at and tripping icke
i'll be as generous as assessing that maybe he just reacted instinctively like a dog does: he didnt have formulated arguments but he could sense something was wrong about icke, which is petty accurate
still a pretty bad show tbqh as icke was being deceptive nor aggressive in any way, instead he got jumped by a guy who was scared and had things to lose with his new show going on on mainstream tv

>Reptilian theory is valid.
sure, but not icke's take on it which is based on, of all things, testimonies (reminds you of anything, goy?)

>Not human (alien) from heaven to earth.
That doesn't mean they are "aliens" like you, I, or Sitchin think of. They are divine beings, who get consigned to the underworld.

youtube.com/watch?v=NjMH-lvbqhY

Same things said about Trump. The guy is a known liar. Don't allow liars with something to protect find their ways into leadership positions. You wouldn't accept mediocrity elsewhere, so don't do it here.

>most of what he says.
Most of a shit pit could be strawberries. You gonna eat it? Have some self-respect. The Jesuits aren't controlling the world. He lies. Stop making excuses. He wouldn't make excuses for you. Raise your standards. Not doing so led to most of you being duped by Trump. Don't let it happen again. (protip: you will).

He is only with the Jews because he thinks god is and he believes the Bible. For researching Catholic corruption and conspiracies, there are few that are his peer. No one is perfect.

How is he a liar? He doesn't deny that. I can specifically remember him talking about how he has business in Israel. He's not an evangelical, he doesn't "shill" for Israel at all. In fact he points out that their leadership and origins are masonic, and evil. The Jewish people however? Yes, he believes the bible.

Another pro-tip : the "Jews" you like to point out in Sup Forums infographics aren't jews. They are masonic ashkenazi's

Holy shit you're an idiot
Jus sayin

No it isn't, even it's codeword (which it is). People like Icke, whether intentional or not, are shills intended to sully the term 'conspiracy theory'. So whenever someone mentions one, even a real one, most people respond with "heh, and I bet reptilian martians did 9/11, too, huh? Tinfoil!" That's what most people think of when you mention a "conspiracy". It's intentional.

You could even talk about Alex Jones (another liar), then out of nowhere, I promise you, someone will say he believes in reptilians. Doesn't matter if it's true or not. Facts don't matter to people. As long as the association is there, and continues to be there, it's over. It's by design. If they mention all sorts of wild, outrageous shit while puffing out their chest, but cower away from Zionism, you know what's real and what isn't.

There is strong indication that Jesuits have a strong foothold on control of American cities. Maybe stormfags are the shit in the white identity movement and our real enemies are the ones that hold a grudge against Northern Europeans all converting away from Catholicism (which we never wanted in the first place) on to Protestantism and later rationalism. There are plenty of Jews that have done good work in the conspiracy research field, and it isn't all "let's isolate a single ethnic group and say what Catholics have been saying for almost 1700 years". There are good Catholics, but the Vatican as it stands is a super state that merely uses religion to control the world's governments. It has been doing so long before Israel was founded. Kings of medieval England answered to the Pope, not some Rabbi. Rome has not declined in power nor have their patterns of hating on Northern Europeans for being "free thinking barbarians" subsided. There is also a hell of a lot more archaeological evidence that Rome was an ancient power than there was of there even being a an ancient state of Israel ruled by a mythical womanizing king. Stuff in the Bible reads like Greek mythology. It's hard to tell what is real and what is fiction, but rest assured it was all symbolic.

icke doesnt cower away from zionism like alex does
he constantly brings up "rothschild zionism" as he calls it and israel ("their creation") as a major player
he just steers clear away from 'antisemitism' in his own way: he points at powers of elite people (reptilians), not populations
he's still avoiding and shirking away from the real JQ but nothing like jonesy does

>reptillian memes
Sorry bud, but if you spend your time trying to "wake people up" and autistically sperg out at the bar or internet forums babbling about conspiracy theories, you're wasting your time. David Icke's reptillian shit is not "code" for jews, he means what he says. Is it true? You'll never prove it, and you'll never disprove it. Most of his "reptillian" stuff comes from a DMT trip and testimonies from other people hallucinating saying they saw it. Not even worth the time imo.

Pursue knowledge and understanding, don't go on a crusade to "spread the word!!". Literally, sort yourself out. That's all that matters. Everyone has their own views and convictions, for all sorts of reasons.

sitchin's been debunked so widely and thoroughly that even the fringe conspi community acknowledges that nowadays

Well said

>He is only with the Jews because he thinks god is and he believes the Bible.

Jews wrote the Bible. And I don't give a fuck about what he believe religiously. If his religion prevents him from telling the truth, he's worthless.

>For researching Catholic corruption and conspiracies, there are few that are his peer. No one is perfect.

Who cares about Catholic corruption? Everyone knows they're full of shit. Their numbers are plummeting. They don't control anything of worth. The only reason he goes after them is because they're a perceived enemy of the Jews, because he knows he won't get into trouble, and because as a "jews are chosen!" christian, he has an axe to grind against them. It's simple. Get it.

>How is he a liar? He doesn't deny that. I can specifically remember him talking about how he has business in Israel.

He came out and admitted it, because he was exposed. God, you people are slow. It got to the point where if he denied it, he'd look like a liar, so he was forced to admit it. You people have to wise up to these simple tricks. It's like Alex Jones, in 2006, he didn't talk about Zionism. He was Luciferian Controllers, German Death Cults. Then callers and followers started to ask:
>"Hey, the Zionists have a lot of power. Why don't you talk about them?"
At first, he went off on them, called them antisemites. But when the calls increased and people started calling him a liar, he slowly started peppering in tiny bits. It became "Teutonic Zionism". He started mentioning the odd Israeli crime to save face.

So if Jews are not alien agents, what are they and why are they so dominant? There are two theories of Jewish dominance. Either could be true.
A. they are guided psychically by reptilian forces
B. they are agents of the Vatican (court Jews ) and serve as bankers and agents of social change to transition into the Luciferian age.

I sure as hell do not believe the evolutionary psychology bullshit some like to believe that they are some isolated race with a "tribal war strategy". For one thing they are too small of a group to defeat whites on their own, and all genetic studies tie them so closely with Europeans that they are hardly differentiable enough for evolutionary psychology to appliy to Jews without also applying to Europeans. Their closest genetic ties are with Italians. Anything used against Ashkenazi Jews can be used against the church founded by Italians.

>an: n., sky, heaven; the god An; grain ear/date cluster ('water' + 'high') [AN archaic frequency: 806].
>nu: adj. & adv., no, not; without; negative.
>na: n., human being; incense [NA archaic frequency: 105; concatenates 3 sign variants].
>ki: ki: n., earth; place; area; location; ground; grain ('base' + 'to rise, sprout') [KI archaic frequency: 386; concatenates 2 sign variants].
that's pretty cool for the rootwords alone
also flat erfers will cum hard: even in sumerian heaven means high water
you can also spot "ki" ~= the oriental "chi"
and "nu" ~= "no"
we even say "nu" as a memey "no" among pol friends
even "na" has something: in "nana", woman, womb, which you find in Innana and other goddess names
overall it looks like anton parks is right: sumerian root words are found in all our languages

>He came out and admitted it, because he was exposed. God, you people are slow. It got to the point where if he denied it, he'd look like a liar, so he was forced to admit it.

Again, I specifically remember him talking about the fact that he has business in Israel. I am almost certain it was before the whole "OMG HE IS AN ISRAELI DIAMOND DEALER SHILL!!!" , because I have been aware of Phelps for a long, long time. This "israeli diamond dealer exposed" stuff happened when he started becoming slightly more popular. You don't get "exposed" for shit you don't hide.

because he wasnt right about the royals being 7 feet bloodsucking lizard aliens, just maybe?
or because he's just laden with Alice Bailey jewcage (newage) beliefs?

>He's not an evangelical, he doesn't "shill" for Israel at all. In fact he points out that their leadership and origins are masonic, and evil.

LOL. He started talking about Israel, because people started calling him out. And even then, he is STILL lying. It's not masonic. Do you even know were the tenets of freemasonry come from? If you did, you'd know that it comes from the Kabbalah. Do you know who invented the Kabbalah, you fucking imbecile. I can't believe I have to explain this to you.

>The Jewish people however? Yes, he believes the bible. Another pro-tip : the "Jews" you like to point out in Sup Forums infographics aren't jews. They are masonic ashkenazi's.

He we are with more lies. Anyone who researches freemasonry. (which masonry, by the way York? Scottish Rite?). Knows it was created by Jews. Everyone who experience knows this. My studies on it goes back to over 25 years. It was an invention to draw the upper-class goyim into destroying their own countries/leaders. Zionism, Rothschilds, the Kabbalah all predate Masonry in the west. Weishaupt, Loyola, both had ties to Rothschld and his cabal. Don't fall for this fuckers lies.

>But when the calls increased and people started calling him a liar

Ah, when the "calls" increased. So this is years later. His radio show or podcast whatever you want to call it is a "relatively" new thing. I want to say 2010ish, maybe a little earlier.

>He was exposed a DECADE ago. He absolutely blames all of the worlds ills on the Jesuits and his, quote "Vatican Assassins". According him Phelps, the Catholics control America, UK, Australia, Japan, Germany, the media in all those countries. The academic system, everything. And the Zionists are innocent. I'm not making this up. He is a shill.
this
gets tiring of hearing a redpiller whitewashing our greatest allies year after year
guys like icke and phelps are way too high profile not to be sucking jew dick
you want redpilled conspi media, listen to american alternative talk radio
jones is just the turd in that punch bowl but the community is filled with redpilled patriots
it has overflowed into youtubers now but it remains pretty cool
i have listened to alternative american talk radio since about 2000, they redpilled me on many things
and yeah icke played apart in leading me to them, that's what figureheads do, they are traitors and gatekeepers but you can also use them as doorways to a deeper, tastier pill
overall that's the commendation i'll give to icke and phelps: as shills as they are they are an introduction, just like jones is, a babby's first redpill

Alright so Eric Jon Phelps is a dirty kike shill who wants to protect the evil jews and push the blame on the innocent and benevolent Catholic church. Understood.

the brilliance of your argument proves you so right my friend

No they don't. Sitchen is mentioned with honor on shows like Coast to Coast AM and by Icke and other guys. Even Ancient Aliens gurus had respect for his work. His research into the Egyptian death rites in "Stairway to Heaven" influenced Hancock and a few other Egyptian researchers.

I will say this however : Phelps is quite dangerous. I recall him claiming that he doesn't have a social security card or pay taxes. He also is into that freeman on the land bullshit. He is quite radical to be perfectly honest.

However, I started this thread for one reason
>That doesn't have anything to do with the fact that him and Phelps were the only (((conspiracy theorists))) or (((truthers))) who did not jump on the Trump bandwagon that I have found.

I thought that was interesting. Out of all of "babby first redpills" as you say, why is it only these two who didn't jump on Trump's nuts? I thought that was interesting. I agree with Phelps on some stuff, and while I admit there certainly is some jewish shit, I don't support the systematic persecution of jews as a race. Just want that to be made clear. Not that it matters of course, just saying.

>icke doesnt cower away from zionism like alex does

I must be talking to idiots on here. No wonder you fell for Trump. Both of them are shills. See
I can tell you weren't around in even 2002. Alex Jones lied about Zionism until people caught on, around 2006-2007, then he mentioned the odd Israeli crime or the word "zionist" to dispel the image of being a shill. He used to insist Arabs controlled Hollywood:

youtube.com/watch?v=rrbPSZd_YJk

When people caught on, he turned coat. These shills will continually lie, then hope no one catches on. Then they will obfuscate to get out of it.

Blah, blah, blah. He's a liar either way. There's no way out of it. If it's codeword, if it isn't, doesn't matter. He doesn't say it's the Zionists, he is a liar. Period.

Who ever is getting away with all this control, has to control the media. Prove the Jesuits control the media. Should be easy. Name them. Multiple countries. Go.

>So if Jews are not alien agents, what are they and why are they so dominant?

Because people are stupid. And their multi-generational insularity, coupled with believing they are the Chosen Ones of God, coupled with Christians and Muslims sucking their cocks (being offshoots of Judaism), cemented them in this position.

They aren't superior. They aren't aliens. They are normal, fallible human beings. If people had the guts, all this shit could end tomorrow. Arrest the leading families and their accomplices. But it won't happen.

My god, man. Give up the lies. Eric Jon Phelps' book, Vatican Assassins came out in the year 2000. Have you read it? In the book, and in the following years, he made numerous claims that the Vatican is the de facto force of evil in the world. It wasn't until around 2006 or 07 that people started to call him out about Zionism and Israel. He repeatedly denied it until someone exposed the diamond trading connection, THEN he admitted it.

Why didn't Phelps or Icke start licking Trump's nuts like everyone else?

And yes, I have read most of the material in his book. I believe that the Vatican is pretty much the de facto evil in the world, and has been for over a thousand years.

Fucking finally, someone who isn't a noob. We may not agree on Alex Jones, but you're right about everything else, including gate-keeperism.

Phelps mentions court Jews all the time because that's what they are and that's what they have always been. They are very talented at what they do, but their autonomy is overestimated. If top Jews went rogue, The Vatican intelligence network would fuck them up bad and it would make all the past Jew displacements and massacres look like childs play.

Their are countless Hollywood movies and shows sucking up to Catholic Church and their "mafia" as a noble organization.


Just a few off the top of my head:
Sister Act
Mary Katherine Gallagher: Superstar
DaVinci Code and Angels and Demons (which was pro Catholic in the end)
Rocky
Godfather 3
The Tudors
The Sopranos

Everytime a Mormon, JW, Protestant, or any other non-Catholic sect is shown, they are either black or KKK fanatics (I'm looking at you Boardwalk Empire)

>>most of what he says.
>Most of a shit pit could be strawberries.
this
all liars say a lot of truth
think alex jones
remember to look for what people do not say more than for what they do say
>He lies. Stop making excuses. He wouldn't make excuses for you. Raise your standards. Not doing so led to most of you being duped by Trump. Don't let it happen again
spot on
word:)
>He came out and admitted it, because he was exposed. God, you people are slow. It got to the point where if he denied it, he'd look like a liar, so he was forced to admit it. You people have to wise up to these simple tricks. It's like Alex Jones, in 2006, he didn't talk about Zionism. He was Luciferian Controllers, German Death Cults. Then callers and followers started to ask:
>>"Hey, the Zionists have a lot of power. Why don't you talk about them?"
>At first, he went off on them, called them antisemites. But when the calls increased and people started calling him a liar, he slowly started peppering in tiny bits. It became "Teutonic Zionism". He started mentioning the odd Israeli crime to save face.
good:)
listen to this man anons
so you really buy that catholics are using jews as aproxy and a scapegoat?
also that there is no genetic component to jewry and jewish behavior?
yeah we know masonry is esoteric judaism, we mention it around here everytime some masonjews try to push their shit onto us
>It was an invention to draw the upper-class goyim into destroying their own countries/leaders.
good pill
indeed it's structured that way: jewish lodges on top of the pyramid
>Coast to Coast AM and by Icke and other guys. Even Ancient Aliens gurus
those are mainstream conspiracy sources user
very superficial, entry level, and very much jewed

It doesn't matter if Phelps is pro or anti Trump if he lies about Zionism, while playing up one of their enemies as the main bad guy, while having religious and monetary ties to Israel.

Prove how the Vatican controls the American, British, Spanish, German, Swedish, Australian, Hungarian, French, Portuguese, New Zealand, Hawaiian, Republic of Irish, and Canadian banks, media, and academic system. Then explain what they gain, and how they convinced Congress and British Parliament to fight Israel's enemies. Then explain why Catholicism, if it controls the media, is a joke is said media and their numbers are falling. Then explain how talking shit about the Vatican controlling the world is safe, but mentioning the Zionists can get you blacklisted, exiled, and murdered.

not me, but I can't resist
>so you really buy that catholics are using jews as aproxy and a scapegoat?
yes
>also that there is no genetic component to jewry and jewish behavior?
yes, there is. It's an observable pattern. Does that mean racial jews should be systematically persecuted? Not in my opinion. I think they should have their own country, like every other ethnic group. That includes kurds and the like. Should all jews be deported to Israel? Good question, I don't really have an opinion on that. But my first instinct is no. Incentivized perhaps.

>Out of all of "babby first redpills" as you say, why is it only these two who didn't jump on Trump's nuts?
i wouldnt expect anything else from icke, as he has been ranting for 20+ years about how the power elites are maniacs and all political candidates are shills, or are made to become so
it was refreshing listening to his anti obama stuff right after his first election, and it's the same with trump's
i assume phelps is of the same wood: too old a conspi guy to jump on any mainstream political bandwagon
which is a clear demarcation from jones btw, for good and ill
jones strikes me as young in spirit, the way he jumped into the arena, even though he keeps his lies by omission and his secret deals and allegences, he still relished the campaign for real and got involved in funny active, hands on ways, remember this
i have tenderness for the guy even though on some other level i hate what his life mission has been: replacing william cooper by a big turd of a stupid jewrnalist
same with icke, i do love the guy but he's been bugged at least around the release of his reptilian blowout book "the biggest secret"
those are failed father figures, but endearing ones nonetheless
RIP Bill Cooper
he too had his failures and shortcomings but what a man and patriot, he's from another era entirely, like a john wayne character

Jesuits train the top intelligence agents at Fordham (which produced your Trump BTW). Mormons at BYU MTC produce much of the rest.

Intelligence agents are always in Hollywood studios' ears about film plots. Putting a few "Jews" in prominent and wealthy positions is right up the alley of the medieval pattern of placing jews as baliffs. They like putting Jews in roles where goys (their dumb followers) will believe any conspiracy about them and hate them. Then they have plenty of firepower when Jews stop fulfilling their duities. Jews are genuinely afraid of Jesuits and the Vatican power structure. They know another Hitler could be produced if needed.

Honestly almost all of these alternative media figures just want more hits and views so they all jump on Trump's nuts since that's what their readers were into.

>shapeshifting high Brad's
what did he mean by this

I'm pretty sure it was Rome that sacked Jerusalem not the other way around. Why wouldn't Jews fear and respect their Roman daddy?

>Phelps mentions court Jews all the time because that's what they are and that's what they have always been

Now I know you're trolling. I already told you, he didn't mention them until smarter people started to call him out. This is why you fuckers are dupes and idiots. You don't know how manipulators work. They eat idiots like you for brunch without even trying. They will lie, lie, and lie by omission, until caught. Then they will say something small on the subject, then say "See! I'm not a shill. I talk about ___!" Mentioning the word, isn't talking about a subject. They say whatever it takes to maintain their position.

>Their are countless Hollywood movies and shows sucking up to Catholic Church and their "mafia" as a noble organization.

That's not sucking up, you simpleton. Calling an organization a crime syndicate and making movies about it, isn't promoting them as a good force. Name at least three Hollywood movies that paint Zionists as mafia. That mention the Rothschilds, Schiffs, as crimelords.

>>icke doesnt cower away from zionism like alex does
>
>I must be talking to idiots on here. No wonder you fell for Trump. Both of them are shills.
i dont support icke, i'm just pointing at some of his relative qualitites which are undeniable
i posted this youtube.com/watch?v=U3QqABvIap8
>He doesn't say it's the Zionists, he is a liar. Period.
icke does say a lot about the zionists though
he just distinguishes clearly between very powerful elite zionists and normal jewish people
this leaves out all the jewish shillcunts we have to deal with on the interwebs though, i'll admit it thoroughly:)
he ignores this part: how so many jews are rabidly working to ruin non jews
but to be frank i'm in constant contact with an american jewess on voice and there's no conniving around her that's discernible in her community
so yeah, #notalljews
good jews may be be the lipidous membrane that allows their rabid core to infect and corrupt us, but you could say that of any people: niggers can say that about us, well not us pol as we're the rabid core here, but liberal whites

>Now I know you're trolling. I already told you, he didn't mention them until
Yes he did.
>smarter people
you, of course
>This is why you fuckers are dupes and idiots.
>idiots like you
>you simpleton.
It's possible to engage in a conversation without continuously berating those youre exchanging with. Just throwing that out there.

> those are mainstream conspiracy sources user
> very superficial, entry level, and very much jewed

Jew conspiracies are about the most surface level ones you can find. They do not venture deep into the symbolism and ancient history, but just look at charts of Jews in Hollywood and other key places and do nothing about examining Kaballah or even a fraction of how Jewish organization even works. It's all just classic fear mongering and jealousy mongering.

> wah wah Jews run hollywood
> wah wah Jews are the communists
> wah wah Jews took over universities
I wonder who founded those institutions in medieval Europe and the whole structure of progression
> wah wah Jews are in the President's ear
> wah wah Jews are killing babies in dark rituals
> wah wah Jews are bad simply because they were born as Jews

And the kicker is stormfags think this is anything new. It was classic Catholic rabble rousing from medieval times that kept us in the dark ages. Hating Jews didn't start the Renaissance. Hating Jews didn't start the industrial revolution. Whites did that when they told Cathlolics to fuck off and took control of their own destiny for once.

>They aren't superior. They aren't aliens. They are normal, fallible human beings.
what about their deal with the archons, well the one made by a minority of them, one of their sects
what about their alien genetics
am i being a nigger here
lol
indeed
>Arrest the leading families and their accomplices.
under what authority?
people arrest?
yeah that'd work, but nothing else as our republics are jewed to the core
"these synagogues, symbols of the republic" _ bernard henri levy
>I believe that the Vatican is pretty much the de facto evil in the world, and has been for over a thousand years.
cantbeserious.jpg
so the vatican is behind all the jews one can see running this shit?
come on, evidence man
so what's your take on jonesy?
>If top Jews went rogue, The Vatican intelligence network would fuck them up bad
evidence?
this nefarious vatican conspiracy is so perfectly competent nobody can see it but mr phelps
>Their are countless Hollywood movies and shows sucking up to Catholic Church and their "mafia" as a noble organization.
doesnt prove that it doesnt serve the kikes to push that line
in fact the jews are never the guilty party in hollywood movies, that should give one an idea as to who is really in power there and elsewhere
>Everytime a Mormon, JW, Protestant, or any other non-Catholic sect is shown, they are either black or KKK fanatics (I'm looking at you Boardwalk Empire)
there is clearly an alliance between jews and catholics i'll give you that, as we could see at that catholic dinner trump roasted hillary in
but why assume the catholics are the top bitch?

>Jew conspiracies are about the most surface level ones you can find.
>I wonder who founded those institutions in medieval Europe and the whole structure of progression
>Whites did that when they told Cathlolics to fuck off and took control of their own destiny for once.

Very good points.

>Prove how the Vatican controls the American, British, Spanish, German, Swedish, Australian, Hungarian, French, Portuguese, New Zealand, Hawaiian, Republic of Irish, and Canadian banks, media, and academic system.
through the jews, user!
and they do it so well we cant trace it!
:)
>I think they should have their own country, like every other ethnic group.
it never worked
for better or worse they placed themselves as eternal parasites
dont you think everything's been tried before?
expulsion, extermination, nothing works
they're immune to these by their very culture, in fact opposition strengthens them
so i guess loving the jew can be the ultimate weapon, as that hollywood movie neo nazi hero saifd, ryan gosling character
love and assimilate the jew(esses)
niggerizing the jews
go and spread your human seed anons:)
isnt that what their antisemitism hype is all about, keeping their cohesion by scaring their flock?
well ok we just love you long time baby jewesses
and when we make enough babies out of your sacred scared wombs, you wont hold your people together anymore
also the jews can only work as they do by remaining a minority
if they grow in numbers their whole strategy fails
that's also why ruling jews regularly purge slave ones
those spunky jewesses are just looking for protection
show them you're the winning stronger team and they might let go more easily of their insane culture ande people

> alliance
Jews are not what you think they are. They are not people of the Bible. They are Italians and Greeks, and later Khazars (leftover Scythians mixed with Turks) that converted to a special sect of the mystery school. The mystery school rules all. I say "Vatican" because that is the most prominent instance of it. It's all Luciferian at the core. Being pro-Catholic enough to turn a blind eye to their very real power structure and crime rackets in Latin American countries, Ireland and Italy is what I hate about stormfags more than their naming of Jews. Name all the Jews you want. I have no real love for them, especially the Soros and Kissinger characters of the world.

Just be open to other organizations in the mystery schools that work in parallel and in conjunction with Jews, not subservient to them. The Vatican does sign most Jewish paychecks. Rothschild was hired on as banker for the Pope. You can't go rogue and wear emlblems of Catholic fraternal organizations. If he was really in charge of Catholics, why would he care about wearing the cross of the Knights of Malta? Why not a big menorah or just a big fat dollar sign?

>Intelligence agents are always in Hollywood studios' ears about film plots. Putting a few "Jews" in prominent and wealthy positions is right up the alley of the medieval pattern of placing jews as baliffs. They like putting Jews in roles where goys (their dumb followers) will believe any conspiracy about them and hate them. Then they have plenty of firepower when Jews stop fulfilling their duities. Jews are genuinely afraid of Jesuits and the Vatican power structure. They know another Hitler could be produced if needed.
nice theory
any evidence?
this isnt coast to coast here, mr phelps ;-)
i'm pretty sure it was the freemasonic jews who decapitated my aristocratic class then made babies to the royal cunts, to the point that today euro royals are indistinguishable from jews, as their racemixing is complete according to peerage sources
so why would the fucking vatican topple itself during the revolution, decapitate its ruling royal class and replace it with horrid banking class kikes?
why would we have masonic symbology everywhere and no more christian one?
what's that power?
oh but it's just as a cover?
come on what sense does it make?
so the catholics are ruling everything, but they spread pagan symbols all over the world?*
because they are romans and not real christians?
so what were they from 500 to 1500?
why did they have to drop the christian façade to go full jew?
why do they need to push atheism, and fucking islam?
why are they destroying white christian people all over the world an relishing it?
that's all vaticaners?
those darn vaticaners ma boy, they're worse than the pirates!
whom were the templar knights btw
i'm sure phelps talks about that too
vatican assassins, templars, freemasons, illuminati
what's the agenda and who are these people really?
aliens? romans?
how come you dont see them on TV except at the dinner trump roasted hillary inj?
how come all powerful positions are jewed?

>why do they need to push atheism, and fucking islam?
To destroy the cancer of Christianity and replace it with their even worse Luciferian NWO "faith". Do you even Albert Pike?

There are no Jews, Christians, or even Islamicists in Bohemian Grove, Bilderberg, or other secret meetings we don't know about. That's what everyone but a few fail to realize. They are just different schools of the same thing. The great Babyllonian mystery. It's their mystery which they wrote about in their books distributed through the word of their government agents called priests and monks, rabbis, and imams.

Quit relying on other people for your spirituality. Ancient poorly preserved, symbol books are good to a degree, but the organizations built around them are just glorified tyranny over the spirit. Some rules keep you blind and others are just common sense and you don't need a clergyman to tell you they are bad.

This does sound like the new age Luciferian cult, but it also sounds like our ancestor's true religion they had before being told they had to go to church every Sunday and pay shit to a pastor, or that one god is better than any other. People just took what god suited aspects they felt like emulating and didn;t need some governor to tell them. Church and state merged with Socrates and his spiritual descendant Catholicism.

>do nothing about examining Kaballah or even a fraction of how Jewish organization even works.
what did you mean by this?
it is jewish to the core
it is in power everywhere
any cristicism of these assessments?
>Jews are not what you think they are. They are not people of the Bible. They are Italians and Greeks, and later Khazars (leftover Scythians mixed with Turks) that converted to a special sect of the mystery school. The mystery school rules all. I say "Vatican" because that is the most prominent instance of it. It's all Luciferian at the core.
fine but how is the vatican more prominent than the kikes?
you're telling us that they use the kikes as bankers and agents, but remain in power?
i agree it's all luciferian to the core, as it's stupid to call the rothschild "jews" as if they had anything to do with your everyday jew
at that high level, no traditional religion is relevant, those are for the slaves/humane people
> Being pro-Catholic enough to turn a blind eye to their very real power structure and crime rackets in Latin American countries, Ireland and Italy is what I hate about stormfags more than their naming of Jews.
what very real power structure?
sorry, cant see it.
i'm in western europe, the catholics push racemixing and feminism and rapefugees
if you call them mystery school, why focus on their vatican aspect and not their jew freemasonic kaballah one instead?
because clearly the kike lodges are on top and there are no catholic ones
clearly the kikes are overrepresented and the catholics underepresented in positions of power
so you mean to tell me that the kikes are a management class but not the real ruling class which is even more secretive and tiny?
the rothschild suck vatican cock?
what are we talking about here
the black pope rules over everything? any evidence of that?
and once again who the fuck are these people anyway?

>It was classic Catholic rabble rousing from medieval times that kept us in the dark ages. Hating Jews didn't start the Renaissance. Hating Jews didn't start the industrial revolution. Whites did that when they told Cathlolics to fuck off and took control of their own destiny for once.
uh no the catholics supported science, see pic
it is the jews that started the renaissance and the revolution, it was all about toppling down the catholic monarchies
and look where that got us, for one thing it started by killing the peasant class and replacing it by a slave disenfranchised working class

> the black pope rules over everything? any evidence of that?
> and once again who the fuck are these people anyway?

Here's a clue. Have you taken a look at Latin America? Race mixing galore. Almost entirely a Catholic operation too. Maybe a few marranos, but I'm not convinced that they were in the majority.

People are too concerned with big noses when big skulls (what really produce brain power and ability to rule) are found in royal graves all over the world.

>To destroy the cancer of Christianity and replace it with their even worse Luciferian NWO "faith". Do you even Albert Pike?
i'm an ex newager so i know a lot about the one world religion they're trying to instate
which is incidentally what icke is all about, see documentary youtube.com/watch?v=U3QqABvIap8
>
>
so dont worry about any religious allegiance of mine as i really have none
i'm christian only culturally
>There are no Jews, Christians, or even Islamicists in Bohemian Grove, Bilderberg, or other secret meetings we don't know about. That's what everyone but a few fail to realize. They are just different schools of the same thing. The great Babyllonian mystery. It's their mystery which they wrote about in their books distributed through the word of their government agents called priests and monks, rabbis, and imams.
you're making william cooper stir in his grave
he who spent his life studying, denouncing and fighting the mystery schools from the point of view of a christian

... which sent me on a spin to save all his HOTT stuff
bye bye thread
hourofthetime.com/wordpresstest/milton-william-bill-cooper-mp3-collection/

yeah i find the alien vatican theory fascinating
sirius guys IIRC?

...

>I was liking Phelps until he started pushing flat earth bullshit.

he's pushing flat earth or talking about it?

flat earth is some CIA deepstate nonsense but Phelps says some wild shit so I like him even though he's a wacko fifth degree zionist or whatever

basically he's a CIA prop dressed like a catholic who criticizes the papacy

>Phelps and Icke are absolutely hip to the satanic angle, which is pretty important imo.

yeah but they play it up like it's real a little too much, I would be like, these fucking wackos think they're god because some Roman told them they were related to Jesus 1500 years ago and really they're just inbred and crazy instead of oh shit they in league with devil aliens crap they're all pulling, fear the elite they're reptoid sea monsters from the fifth dimension

>These people are just in it to make money.

yeah but Icke was on TV and was in sports so he's also probably following an agenda for elite wackos and also just trying to make money

elites like it when people are afraid of their reptoid alien powers

>The great Babyllonian mystery

so they take hallucinogens?

David Icke and all those conspiracy masters, they be telling you some truth, but then again they be telling you lots of nonsense. David Icke is your alien level conspiracy gateway, when you meet lizard rulers and such eventually and of course the all-time favorite chemtrails. It's true some chemicals been released, it's true they been spreading insects and such thing on purpose, but not all is true and if you believe it all you won't date to go outside any longer, since you will fear literally everything.