Communism vs Nazism?

Communism vs Nazism?
Who's better system?

communism lasted longer

National Socialism

Nazis to be quite honest.
Communism is much more harmful to the people of that particular country.

Is this a joke?

>literally no difference between these two ideologies, what's the difference?
go fuck yourself idiot

At least Nazism/Fascism worked while it lasted.

>nazis btfo by soviets tho hahaha

If you think the soviet union was anything other than shit-tier fascism, then you're a double digit iq moron.

National Socialism was a paradise before the war, communism was always bad.

>had to have 3 empires against German war marchine
lol, you're weak

t. American useful idiot

It's still here today

Fascism works very well but got crushed by communism.

national socialists are hotter

Neither was actually a system. Both were just corrupt populist mass movements led by small gangs of sociopaths and fanatic true believer / secular jihadi types. They were cults, not political philosophies.

it was not communism that crushed fascism it was more of a war on two fronts that crushed it

Communism because it allows all the rights of the citizens to remain intact while also keeping the nation secure. The fact that we have greater technology means we can get to a level of self sustainability faster than national socialism who rely on changing an entire mindset under certain causes.

National socialism will always find a scapegoat to exist for identity politics and demonizing others. Jews took the brunt of it before, and before that it was the Armenians.

Also when you compare the population of each one tried in the past, communism was by far more stable. You can look at a lot of these facts and statistics on reddit if you're interested.

I know the board is evenly split on this but don't get confused. There are so many shills against communism because (((they))) know it works in the benefit of the average person. Technology could finally be released under communism, patents allowed to be passed.

>worships centralised goverment and glorious leader
>calls others useful idiots

nazism single handedly warred the world and almost won, it was a war that should have never been declared, but thanks to their developments the world was changed forever.

communists literally just starved to death, tried to run away to the west, and enslaved/brainwashed its nation into being productive; this kept USSR relevant for a while until it crashed and burned without the entire world at war with it. what faggots.

Communism can never work. i come from ex-communist state and can tell you they made everyone equal by making everyone equally poor,unhappy and starving.

NatSoc is really just the free market with added racism (i.e. social projects like tax financed living quarters, but for nationals only). Of course it works, if you conquer your rivals and their resources that is. It's not a peaceful solution. It seeks to unite the world with perpetual warfare. Once you're up against rivaling superstates that have the resources to take you down, you'll get fucked from all sides. And that's what happened.

Communism is just foolish. People need states and will form rivaling interest groups no matter what. So you eliminate the state and its interests groups only to replace it with an even more oppressive state and more radical interest groups. What starts as a social justice movement results in a classic rule of the iron fist. Anyone who tries any new social justice movements will simply be shot.

Or you could just get your ass back to plebbit because we are not evenly split on this. Communist sympathizers get laughed off this board so badly that there's only 1 or 2 and they don't even participate in threads they just spam memes in their DOA Commie generals. Nobody is going to check out Reddit, nobody is going to your leftypool discord, just stop. It's embarrassing.

As opposed to American neocons who keep praising freedom and democracy (in the name of Yahweh) when they don't themselves even support it.
>letting your country to be invaded by couple Jewish peasants
lol

i'll say it again
nazis are hotter

Riddle me this: What did Germans try to conquer that wasn't already German(/Austrian) land.

I'm not sure if you're shilling or being serious right now. Real communism deserves a chance of analysis. I see it being discussed here all the time too. Also what do you have against reddit? We've been here for years.

We didn't have the same technology we have now. We can increase crop yields dozens of times over with less land using hydroponic farm towers. Look up the Venus Project. Their patents were denied by the US government plenty of times. Capitalism inhibits invention and free will.

Nazism.

It got us jet engines, nuclear tech, genetic research, medical advancements, and ultimately space travel.

But it only works in homogeneous cultures.

nazism makes concentration camps to get rid of undesirables, and work well enough to require the rest of the world to stand united against it to stop it.

Communism doesn't work, collapses on its own, and turn entire countries into concentration-camps in the process.

>Real communism deserves a chance of analysis.
Hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahah. Oh, fuck off. Communism has had a trillion chances and it ended in famine in every case except what, North Korea? North Korea is the perfect Communist country. Wow! The only ones who managed to pull off its retarded ideology without killing off tens of millions of its own through incompetence.

The real ideology that deserves assessment is NatSoc. It was an effective national and economic system(that pretty much blew away Commie shills culturally, technologically, and economically) that doesn't actually get any attention because of the massive propaganda campaign from both sides against it all these years.

There doesn't need to be anything more said about Communism.

It got crushed by bad P.R.

National Socialism. If Germany had access to the same oil reserves as the allies, it would have spread across the globe.

Nazis occupied the Balkans and all of Poland-Lithuania. Obviously France and Norway too. Their plan was to unify Europe with pure brute force. Had they taken Moscow and London, all of Europe would have been Germany for the time being.

See my third reply
National socialism cannot work now. Technology has broke the barrier of being able to support a nation under national socialism. Communism allows for a technocratic approach to free trade, even sub-circles of democracy. Being allowed to vote for representation but not being allowed to choose your profession. That is the main pro and con but at least it is peaceful. National socialism is not peaceful at all, it relies on scapegoats and taking sides. Communism is for everybody.

i'll say it ONE more time
nazis are hotter

Soviets were first in space you dingbat.
Also made huge advances in rocketry and nuclear.

Nazis set genetic research BACKWARDS (as did Soviets) and followed an anti science philosophy.

Pull your head out of your ass

>Yeah, National Socialism worked pretty great and never really had a chance
>But you know what we should REALLY try again?
>Communism
>I mean clearly it's not fair to judge Communism because it wasn't real Communism those other times
This is why Communists should just be shot or thrown in labor camps. They are like religious people, can't be convinced by reality until they are dead.

1. Soviets used German engineering(as did we)
2. The productivity and economic requirements they needed came at the expense of the population at large(unlike US or Germany) by forms of enslavement of the entire population and inhumane living standards

Are you on full reverse psychology now?

> There are so many shills against communism because (((they))) know it works
>unironically saying the kikes are against communsim.

Jesus fuck, literally kys.

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>NatSoc is really just the free market

>how to spot a leftist shill

You guys really change the narrative everytime it fits your agenda. In the next thread you are gonna claim it was totalitarian with price fixing and controlled economy as long as it fits your agenda. The mental gymnastics pulled by leftist shills like you on here is amazing.

Germany was in a defensive war and made offensive moves against Norway. Yes I know they kicked France's ass. Germany hadn't invaded anything that hadn't been former German territory until Britain decided it wanted to ruin the world to stop Germans from being free.

You are a fool for taking a side that stifles technology, peace and humanitarian pursuits. Your ideology is already dead while communism is vastly replacing capitalistic oligarchs. The reason I'm even talking to you is to enlighten you to the fact that technocratic approaches are the future. National socialism is a complete false ideology that is not sustainable in the slightest. Not in trade, not in self sufficiency, not in economy, agriculture, science, medicine. It's a system made for useful idiots. Communism is already leading by example and national socialism is dead and buried in hell.

They don't want certain aspects of technology to be present to the population. True communism takes the cap of this off so humanity is better for it.

Yeah, that's exactly what he's doing. Reddit has an entire raid setup with the intentions of using reverse psychology to split Sup Forums right now.

Don't listen to , there was no plan to unify Europe. Once Britain and France delcined all peace offers starting Sept. 3 1939, the Nazis had no other choice than to fight till the end.

The allies could have had peace at any time but they did not want that, hence the war dragged on and the Nazis fought till the bitter end. France was only attacked because you need to make them drop out of the war, Norway, and Denmark was only attacked because the Brits started to make their moves on norway to come in from the north and cut off resources from Sweden.

>what is gulag and holomordor komrad
great kommunisten regime always does final solution

GLC looks like an ugly Bill Paxton and it's no surprise to see a Swede do nothing but talk about what men he finds attractive in a thread about political ideology.

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>soviet space program
>not German

>You are a fool for taking a side that stifles technology, peace and humanitarian pursuits
You really shouldn't be one to talk considering you picked Maoist China, Stalin, Pol Pot, and Kim Jong Il as your poster child. The only technological advancement that came from your dumbfuck ideology came from former Nazis. Really, you should pat yourself on the back for insisting anything other than Communism is dead and fucking buried.

Ask Venezuela

>it only takes 1 man on the left to kill every man on the right
really activates those almonds

>you picked Maoist China, Stalin, Pol Pot, and Kim Jong Il as your poster child
Strawman. Who mentioned any of them?

> National socialism is a complete false ideology that is not sustainable in the slightest.

>Not in trade, not in self sufficiency, not in economy, agriculture, science, medicine.

> It's a system made for useful idiots

>They don't want certain aspects of technology to be present to the population. True communism takes the cap of this off so humanity is better for it.

holy projectionism batman. Useful idiots is literally a commie term

Are you too retarded to see that the ((())) comes from the guy I quotes? Are you clinicly retarded? Of course you are seeing your flag, lacking reading comprehension as usual.

Nazism

NONE OF THEM

>clinicly
>"lacking reading comprehension as usual"

It's clinically senpai

Those people you listed were controlled. You don't seem to understand we are in the present. We are not living in the past, or at least I'm not. It's clear your delusion comes from being uninformed. Again look at the patents The Venus Project have made and been denied. Capitalism is cancer that keeps you barely alive to earn money. Curing symptoms but never the cause.

Technocratic communism on the other hand is ideal in every shape way and form.

Spotted the manchild who never took economics or history

>inb4 not real communism

Communists. That's what they gave to the world, on top of Mugabe, Derg Ethiopia, Castro, etc etc etc. The only impressive thing about Communists is that their ideology is a better Communist killer than pic related.

is this bait

>le (((meme)))
hahaha le lololol XDDDDD i le said le (((meme))) haha (((XDDD))) le lolololol haha so le (((funny))) ecks dee dee dee!!!!!!!!!!

nazism => national socialism => socialism

Communism would also be great if only whites lived in it. With no jews and mongrels.

Political system doesn't matter. Race does.

sorry what?

So you base your ideology and policy on a future that neither you or our grandchildren(assuming you'll ever breed) will see, that requires such an impossible living standard that nobody will ever have to work.

Really, you've done a good job at highlighting exactly what is cancer here but I'm certain its not what you think it is.

natsoc
>europeans put jews in camps

commie
>jews put europeans in camps

tough choice senpai

communism divides and stagnates
nationalism unites and prospers

>what is K/D ratio

Ethno communism is a possibility but that would most likely come from genetic modification more so than population manipulation.

It stems from core principals that pick your jobs for you. Some people are better st certain things than others. Technology can capitalise on this. Very few hours per individual is paradise to a compared forty plus hour workweek to live in a shack.

Technocratic communism allows everyone to live in spacious homes for free. Look up ceramic moulds. Homes that could be made in under days and modified to the persons choice. Water proof, fire proof, wind and earthquake proof. Capitalism won't let these homes be built because they are made with so little money.

You sound like a stifled man.

Russia has a lot of people. No military historian, scratch that, no right thinking individual even would say Russia won through tactics, leadership, or technology.

Germans had timeless Generals studied today like Rommel and Goering, Russians had Georgy "The Russian Meat Grinder" Zhukov. Why? Because NatSoc was the better ideology and made better men.

>It stems from core principals that pick your jobs for you.
>You sound like a stifled man.
So you're so retarded you want your government to think and make every choice for you? Nice ideology, kid.

Trumpism

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>there was no plan to unify Europe

Yes there was, it's the ultimate goal for most Germans because this country has always been too tiny. We can no longer produce real growth here, industrial or otherwise. Nazis underlined that especially.

>Once Britain and France delcined all peace offers starting Sept. 3 1939, the Nazis had no other choice than to fight till the end.

True. Without the war, Germany would have broken apart in revolution, reverted back to a loose federation of irrelevant ministates. That's what France and England banked on. But it's no excuse. Honestly, with my back against the wall like that, I'd have made dealings with Stalin at that point. Or maybe even the Americans. History could have been different with a bit of a less dignified struggle than getting shot on the battlefield.

It's much better than picking your own job and stressing every hour, week and year.

Compare for instance three hour workdays to your "ideal" national socialist ten plus hours. You are only kidding yourself. That's okay though, you're not in a position to change the future and I am.

>Mugabe
>Communist
He's a black nationalist who claims to be communist.

Both are complete shit.

Every system is better than Communism. Even not having a system is better than Communism.

>Yes there was, it's the ultimate goal for most Germans because this country has always been too tiny. We can no longer produce real growth here, industrial or otherwise. Nazis underlined that especially.
>Nazis underlined that especially.
Cool, lets see some evidence they intended to invade France before they were forced into war.
>It's much better than picking your own job and stressing every hour, week and year.
Hahahah, hold up, I'm getting some pics of your ilk. Gonna commence dumping them. You're fucking pathetic.

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i-is that a guy?

>free market with added racism
That's the ol' dixie ya dum dum.

This is the face of a communist.

That shows just how little merit you actually had to begin with. I pity you and wish for the best.

and this is the face of a nazi

The key term here is German OCCUPIED. Germany was in the middle of a war with the allies, of course they had military occupatipn in captured territories, doesn't meant germany just wanted to take all that land.

there is no gender in the marxist revolution, captain sweden. thoughtcrimes like that will get you landed in the gulag on the day of the vivolucion

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o-ok.. ill just be here at my moms house waiting for the revolution comrade. k-keep me posted.

Cancer is a less painful and prolonged means of death than Communism so even cancer is better than Communism.

Spain had fascism longer than communism

>when you're the only comrade to get married so its your duty as a communist to let your pals seize her means of reproduction

sure buddy

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guy looks well fed unlike this fake communist faggot spaniard who always posts commie generals

>when you want to fight the revolution but your mom wont let you

kek this is some good stuff

is that really him? kek

>when you're trying to be like your hero karl marx and die without having ever held a job and your mom tells you that you have to move out

>morelikethis