Understand the world sucks,and your life sucks
I just got out of my shrink's office and he told me that I could be as degenerate as I wanted as long as I am happy.See that is the problem with today's society.Fuck the feelings.strive to be better in every way possible.Be UBERMENSCH
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actually fucking read this guy before spouting off
he said, yes, there is no point to life, but that means you have to create your own value and purpose in it, he did not say "nothing matters lmao"
that is what i wrote kek
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>he needed a psych to tell him what most people discover at 13
well ok then
retarded thinks that nietzsche is a nihilist. hope you kys in your next depression fag.
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your shrink is part of the problem, get a new one
No, that doesn't mean "be as degenerate as I wanted as long as I am happy."
That means be the best you can be without self destructing like a nigger.
>watch True Detective
>read Conspiracy agaist humankind
>read Zapffe
>read Schopenhauer
>read Thomas Metzinger
>read Nietzsche
And you will find the purpose/meaning of life.
I don't think you understand Nihilism, it's a disease of the mind. You cannot be both Nihilistic and motivated in life.
You have never read Nietzsche have you? Do you not even know the basic concept of the Superhuman?
Nietzsche spoke truth to power to the religious hegemony that terrorizes the world even today.
Men make morals. Most men abide by their own morals and excel in the world. They are happy and fulfilled.
Evil men invent gods and religions to enforce their morals and enslave the people. They pretend their contrived, relative morals are "absolute" and "objective". They can't stand that others are content and constantly try to rob them of their happiness.
the purpose of nihilism is to
be freed from purpose
and to then create your own.
>there is no meaning, until you make your own
>be neetcheese
>spend entire life dreading nihilism
>see nihilism as the ultimate threat to humanity
>so worried about it that you think yourself into panic attacks and become absolutely mentally crippled unable to function in real life
>dedicate your entire life to trying to find a way to stop nihilism
>fast forward
>retards who have only read wiki articles or heard youtubers summarize you post your face while advocating for nihilism as though it's a good thing you wanted
Every fucking time
Why would you want to pive any other way?
Some people find great joy in working hard and sacrificing their time and their own happiness chasing a dream of better happiness. Sometimes even sacrificing much for someone else.
Thats fine, but that doesn't apply to everyone. Maybe you want to live a hedonistic life filled with instant gratification. Very little hard work and a complete emphasis and pleasure.
Or maybe you want to lay i your bed all day and stay at the ceiling. You should do it. You should do whatever it is in life that brings you legitimate joy. Its literally your life. Do not live it in accordance with other peoples standards and norms.
The key is, legitimate happiness. Are you really happy with staring at the ceiling or are you doing this because of some underlying unhappiness? Thats important. If the ladder then absolutely, you shouldn't live a life of staring at the ceiling.
If the ceiling TRULY brings you happiness then go for it. If you start to feel bad and unhappy, you can always change course
Is that you, big Nick?
>Evil men invent gods and religions to enforce their morals and enslave the people.
Literally first time smoking weed after junior high tier thinking. You might as well suggest there's a patriarchy inventing societal norms on purpose to oppress women.
Good post, canuck.
Any German anons ever read Nietzsche? Are the English translations of Beyond good and evil bad or was he just a tedious writer? I've read calculus books in less time than it took me to read his work.
German of that caliber doesnt translate well but yeah Nietzsche is hard to read.
And that is ??
Please help a fellow illiterate Aryan.
God bless you
> nihilism
> posts nietzsche
shut the fuck up and leave your moron.
You clearly haven't read Nietzsche. He strongly opposed it and advocated against it you fucking faggot.
Is the lack of directness a feature of the German he wrote it in? Why so much analogy and metaphor? Was it just his writing style or is that a cultural phenomenon?
No. Fuck off. This is not what nihilism should be about.
Anything besides pic related is just being a cynical and pessimistic mind set.
Nietzsche is friggin dense. I used to read him with a long pause after each paragraph.
At least in german he was a fucking genius writer.
The ideas are spot on, but why the long meandering passages to get you to his point?
They're not evil, but the problem with religion as it exists in the states is that you'll have a common situation where a 20-something year-old preacher will be giving life advice to some fucking 50 year olds...AND THEY'LL FUCKING TAKE IT.
I "have" seen preachers give counsel that was more geared towards keeping the person in question in church than it was towards that person actually progressing in life.
And then you have your fellow practitioners who are more than willing for YOU to be moral, and for YOU to do the right thing, but none of them actually believe their own horseshit. They'll spend their college days getting choke fucked by football players and disown their daughter for moving in with a nice, employed boy when she turns 18.
Even if you "must" believe in God, you're more than capable of being moral on your own. You don't need religion to tell you not to murder, steal, rape. Those urges are unlikely to be in you at all, if you grew up in a decent country with a decent family.
both equally degenerated
Shut the fuck up you cultureless leaf. Abrahamic religion is responsible for all the ills in this world and the destruction of Europe and its peoples.
>Nietzsche
>Nihilist
Pick one.
Congrats on proving you haven't read a page of his works. WHEN WILL THIS MEME DIE
B E N I S :DDDDDDD
Nietzsche passages about Master Morality are what you are looking for m8, Those who are noble will illicit implicit fear in those who are less, and garner respect and distance from those who are equal.
He didnt want his readers to learn his "system" but to understand the core of his whole idea. A lot of autistic subhumans tend to Kant, Spinoza, Marx, Freud, etc. because they created a system that their Asperger brain can work with. Nietzsche is different. If you are an autist youll never understand him since you need empathy, common sense and a basic understanding of human life and human desires.
I think he struggled with very complex,nuanced and new ideas, which he was actually good to put into almost catchphrases, but he also need to circle around them and flesh them out so you get it.
Also mostly he wrote in a very fragmented way, so there is no clear line from one though to the next.
And in general he was a more poetic writer, and putting value in writing as an art and not only a blunt tool to get his ideas across.
>True Detective
how good is this
This also.
>read Schopenhauer
>read Nietzsche
Despite the fact that he trashes Schopenhauer over and over again....
WHY DOES EVERYONE PRETEND TO READ THINGS THEY HAVE NEVER READ
Also True detectives "philosophy" is philosophy for people who will fall for intellectual party tricks like Nihilism.
t. Pleb doing philosophy doctorate.
Is this a language barrier thing or something?
There's existential nihilism and moral nihilism. Nietzsche is considered the most iconic figure of the former.
>calls other people cultureless
>believes a huge cultural aspect of society is responsible for all the ills in the world
sounds about right
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HOW MANY TIMES MUST HE SAY THAT NEEDED TRUTHS ARE REVEALED IN THEIR OPPOSITES
ILLITERATE NORMIES GET OR MY BOARD
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the reality should be a picture of a fucking meth addict
thats not nihilism you fuck
Most nihilists have addictive personality so probably yeah.
>Also True detectives "philosophy" is philosophy for people who will fall for intellectual party tricks like Nihilism.
I think Anti-Natalism has some very strong points, that can be very convincing (if there is lot of suffering in your life )and any philosophy or system if you will needs to answer first. So it's a starting point.
>Why even live?
POL IS DEAD AND WE HAVE KILLED HIM
THE RIVERS RUN WITH THE BLOOD OF ILLITERATE REDDIT DIASPORA
REEEEEEE
FUG U GOUYS IM GOING TO BED
B E N I S :DDDDD
Young Nietzsche was strongly influenced by Schopenhauer though.
>The Birth of Tragedy from the Spirit of Music
Who the fuck cares if you are better? If you are a true nihilist you'd just kill yourself. Because whether you become the most famous person on earth or just suicide tomorrow, won't make any difference whatsoever in the great emptiness of the universe. Humanity, and the solar system will be completely extinct with not a single evidence that we have lived at all.
Like he was influenced by Socrates, before he spends the first half of TA calling him a moral abomination.
He thanks people he learned from by ripping their shit. This is true. But like how he used to toe kiss Wagner, he ripped him because he thought him/them wrong.
Say what you will about the tenants of National Socialism, at least it's an ethos.
>Ubermensch
>Nihilist
The first season is 11/10; a must watch.
ok thanks
Voluntary Egoism is the only way to go.
I BET THIS WHOLE THING WAS BATE FUG U IM GOING TO BED.
True for entry level stuff I guess. Let's go out on a high note, we can all agree, the man (Nietzsche) had the best style certainly I have ever seen.
Also for the purposes to see who is attracted to threads like these, plox answer.
pic too small to read
Fug soz. I'll try to find another.
ALSO CHECK THESE DIGITS.
GOODNIGHT SLEEP TIGHT.
B E N I S :DDDDDD
well but lets not forget that his later hostility especially towards Wagner was well reasoned since Wagner didnt understand the cultural dimension of his own epic pagan tragedy at all and went full christian later - christianity is one of Nietzsches red lines. His patriotism and hope for Germany was smashed when Wagner released his Parsifal. Hes become more and more cynical since then and, to be honest, his later works are not as beautiful to read as his early, idealistic and juvenile works.
calm down man what the fuck
>shrink's office and he told me that I could be as degenerate as I wanted as long as I am happy.
Find a better shrink.
The reason why degeneracy is degeneracy is because it makes you unhappy.
This is all true...
R A G I N G
B E N I S ;()
:DDDDDD
>this thread
>that we can't prove
lel wat
lol I was on that thread
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op is a faggot.
Lol... poor OP, nobody read what he said.
You're still a fag. Next time, post Marx for an anti-nihilism thread.
Absurdism > Nihilism
You're all high schoolers.
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I want to rephrase what I wrote. It is more that Anti-Natalism lurks beyond every ethics, in that sense if it can't elevate suffering enough to make life worth living, it has failed. But entry level stuff, I agree.
And yes, Nietzsche's style is fantastic, recommended in german.
Sleep tight philo bro.
at pic related: Liberal right or Center I guess
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KUTAS!
>watch this shit 3 times
>Sorted.
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>nihilist
>believes in absolutes such as the idea of an 'ubermensch' and happiness.
You're not a nihilist man. Grow up.
hmmm, somewhere between radical centrist and the liberal right
Thanks (I think you skipped this pic)
He has inspired me to learn latin just so I don't have to keep looking things up, I have heard German is impossible but I'll try a few years down the road.
Also I agree, suffering is at the heart of Existentialist and anti-natalist thinking. But TBQH Desu I am about to crash but you seem really neato so I would recommend anything by Kierkaargard of however you spell him if you want another sweet perspective on dealing with those kinds of issues.
Have a good one Hanz-light.
It's actually quite incredible just how badly you misunderstand Nietzsche and the concept of the ubermensch.
Like, I cannot express in words just how far from his ideas your current understanding is.
You're nothing but a self destructive and unproductive slave.
shut the fuck up
All gods are the invention of man. In my experience it isn't so much "enslave the people" as it is being filled with a misplaced sense of righteousness - and once you have that it's not a huge leap for horror to follow. Perhaps you'll burn 250,000 as witches. Perhaps you'll drive a truck into a crowd of civilians. It all comes from the misplaced sense of righteousness and authority over your fellow man that religion indoctrinates within you
Thanks for the recommendation of Kierkaargard, I have more more people referencing him, but it is better to read the sources myself. Will get my hands on his work.
See you around.
Rude.
forgot pic (again)
Retard level :
Naive Level :
Reader level :
" What I relate is the history of the next two centuries. I describe what is coming, what can no longer come differently: the advent of nihilism. . . . For some time now our whole European culture has been moving as toward a catastrophe, with a tortured tension that is growing from decade to decade: restlessly, violently, headlong, like a river that wants to reach the end. . . . (Will to Power)"
Existential Nihilism
While nihilism is often discussed in terms of extreme skepticism and relativism, for most of the 20th century it has been associated with the belief that life is meaningless. Existential nihilism begins with the notion that the world is without meaning or purpose. Given this circumstance, existence itself--all action, suffering, and feeling--is ultimately senseless and empty.
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it's probably more about giving your people a reason to live, as we all know atheism will inevitably lead to nihilism. I imagine our ancestors didn't necessarily believe there was or wasn't a god, but invented the concept for the same purpose as santa clause
Nietzsche ended up nihilist in his later years.
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"Nihilism is akin to meaninglessness, which is an intolerable state"
>is an australian
>believes that Christianity is the only cultural aspect of Europe, that wasn't a tool made by the Jews to erase our real culture
Sounds about right
ended up with dementia you fucking retard. its a symptom of the destruction of the nervous system by syfilis either contracted when he worked as a medic in the war, or fucking whores. no one knows for sure.
Hey hop in retard, we're in the cynic van and we're gonna lulz the world, you're falling behind faggot.
>RRato
Looks like Lyin Ted is visiting straya
DID YOU JUST CALL NIETZSCHE A NIHILIST YOU DUMB PIECE OF SHIT *TRIGGERED*
>not labelling Nietzsche as an existentialist
I don't want to listen to Kermit the frog, thanks. Can you stop posting this boring twat.
It doesnt matter if you call Nietzsche a nihilist or not. His thinking and philosophy results in nihilism and absurdism. No matter what you fool yourselves with when you "create" (lol) your own meaning. He himself ended life like a mad man. This is in reality the result of godlessness. Anyone who doesnt see that is either a complete idiot or fooling themselves as a defence mechanism to not go crazy.
Nietzsche is not a nihilist; he predicted the effects of nihilism.
I'm reading Beyond Good and Evil right now and it is taking me forever. I don't read but a couple pages at a time, then spend the next hour thinking back over what is said. Really stimulating intellectually, desu.
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It's amusing really that by writing about what is essentially his observation of, and personal suffering with, the concept he managed to rapidly accelerate the process.
>He himself ended life like a mad man.
plato ended up dead.
christ ended up dead, and then people say he resurected. (not absurd at all)
nietzsche fucked so much he got syfilis.
i will stay with the mustache dude.
TFW I understood I was a retard and left the thread when it was small but now I am exposed as a retard
>This is in reality the result of godlessness.
>Anyone who doesnt see that is either a complete idiot or fooling themselves as a defence mechanism to not go crazy.
You not seeing that Religion is a defense mechanism against the concept of Death, is the only complete idiocy here, Christcuck.
>invent western philosophy.
>get labeled a retard some Townsend years later.
pay debts.