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Bumping with a reminder that National Socialism superficially Christian but at heart Pagan.
Jaxson Allen
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Eli Richardson
roll
Jackson Davis
Bumping, Hitler did nothing wrong.
Commander Rockwell was a true patriot.
Angel Jenkins
Daily reminder that Jews are white.
Jeremiah Smith
lol I see you changed your post somewhat. I think natsoc is what it looks like when Christians and Pagans are unified. >superficially Christian but at heart Pagan Isn't this true of all Christianity, since Chrstianity is what "paganism" became? Its a myth and a false dichotomy to think they're opposites; Christianity is not a jewish religion, it has no logos, nor do the Jews accept such Aryan concepts as Christ.
Landon Myers
>has no logos *Judaism has no logos, rather
Jaxson Adams
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Lucas Powell
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Cooper Long
Jesus was the true hero of humanity. He died so everyone has a chance at redemption. Hitler was a selfish evil man.
Hunter Kelly
Yeah, I changed it to make my point more clear. I'll still post the old version occasionally, though. >I think natsoc is what it looks like when Christians and Pagans are unified. T.bh I would be inclined to agree with this >Isn't this true of all Christianity, since Chrstianity is what "paganism" became? Nah, I'd say it's the other way around. Christianity is superficially Pagan (most obvious in the way Christmas is celebrated), but its intrinsic values are true "Christian" and not pagan whatsoever, i.e. the concepts of total forgiveness, loving all people, and so on. None of this is pagan.
Owen Ward
>i.e. the concepts of total forgiveness, loving all people, and so on This is a more modern, pozzed version of Christianity. Esotericism teaches us that Christianity is what our ancestors developed to retain their spirituality in the face of certain threats, one of which was Judaism. Rome was plagued by its Jewish element, which is why the Flavian Caesars perverted Aryan beliefs in an attempt to shoehorn rebellious Judaic culture into their empire. This was the idea of a Jew, Josephus, remembered today as simply an early Christian convert and historian. In fact, he was a Jewish "traitor", likely an infiltrator, who became majordomo to the Caesars. Just as Kushner is majordomo of Trump today, just as jews always seek this role for the princes of Europe. Hitler wrote about this extensively in Mein kampf, as did Schopenhauer before him. This is an ancient trick of the Jew. Christianity has always been plagued by crypto ideas and corruptions, just as our ancestors were plagued before. This is an ancient struggle.
Wyatt Mitchell
Before you feel confident believing you know what ancient peoples without written histories believed, read Godamer's 'Truth and Method'. Without a hermeneutic approach, you're just making up what you think "ancient pagans" believed. The same applies to your evaluation of Christianity.
>Hitler was a selfish evil man. Thanks Mehmet, really activated my almonds.
Jaxon Martinez
>This is a more modern, pozzed version of Christianity. True, but we are living in modern times m8. Most devout modern Christians are slaves to these Jewish-influenced ideas, not the ideas of Christian Rome. A massive reformation would be required to cleanse Christianity of Jewish elements.
Nah I don't claim to know the values of ancient Pagans, especially non-Greco-Roman Pagans. I see this as an advantage, however - with no defining historical doctrine, the Pagan religions can be revived with a focus on National-Socialist ideals, even though such ideals may not have been shared by the ancients.
Owen Morales
roal
Brandon Butler
>Most devout modern Christians are slaves to these Jewish-influenced ideas My point was that they always have been. Your argument is that the reason why is because Christianity is Jewish, in contrast to paganism, which you learned about from the same corrupted culture and academia that you got your sense of Christianity from. This is why you need a hermeneutic mindset, an awareness of how the information you receive is corrupted -- otherwise, your retreat to "neo-paganism", given to you by the 18th century's version of cultural marxists, is just as problematic.
Josiah Torres
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Angel Hill
>which you learned about from the same corrupted culture and academia that you got your sense of Christianity from Actually I avoid all neo-pagan literature and exclusively read primary sources from the Roman period (I understand that even these sources can be extremely biased and propagandised), as well as looking at assessments of artefacts from the ancient period and other hard historical sources.
>Your argument is that the reason why is because Christianity is Jewish Well yes Christianity is an Abrahamic desert religion (spread by the Jewish-born Jesus) which eventually took hold in Europe. That's not my main argument, though. My main argument is that modern Christianity is a destructive cancer and fixing it and de-Jewifying it would be a massive reformation process that would take as long as it would to re-establish paganism.
Jace Gonzalez
sieg heil.
Carter Jackson
>Well yes Christianity is an Abrahamic desert religion Except it comes entirely from Greco-Reoman minds, based on Aryan tropes and concepts not found in Abrahamic religions. You said earlier that Christianity was "superficially" pagan, and yet Christ is a foundational Aryan/"pagan" figure. That's why Jews hate Christianity more than they hate Isalm, its why they reject it -- they see it as the most profound sacrilege to their conception of God. How could that be true if it were an "Abrahamic" religion? You're not applying your concept of "superficial" evenly here; your reasoning is motivated, to reach a particular conclusion you want to have beforehand.
Ask yourself, why is the Celtic Cross also called "Odin's Cross"? Why is the Hakenkreuz the most prolific cross of Christianity in northern Europe, even past the Renaissance? Why are all these pagan symbols for early versions of Christ so prolific in this "Abrahamic" church, as you claim?
Tyler Taylor
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Logan Martin
Ixion (Roman God) on his Cross
Jonathan Parker
Mithras on his cross
Jaxson Anderson
Odin on his "cross", ie, The World Tree
Jack Gutierrez
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Alexander Taylor
>How could that be true if it were an "Abrahamic" religion? Are you trying to say that Christianity is not an Abrahamic religion? Christianity is by definition Abrahamic and evolved from Judaism. Yes, it was heavily influenced by European/Aryan ideas and has diverged significantly from Judaism, but it has Abrahamic/Judaic origins and you can't avoid that.
>why is the Celtic Cross also called "Odin's Cross"? All Indo-European cultures and pagan religions are heavily linked both in terms of deities and symbolism. This is nothing surprising.
>Why is the Hakenkreuz the most prolific cross of Christianity in northern Europe, even past the Renaissance? Simply a case of Christians adopting pagan symbolism, usually done to appeal to those they were trying to convert and to integrate Christianity with the native pagan religions to ease the transformation process. Also generally cultural symbols don't just disappear, even with the onset of a new religion.
>Why are all these pagan symbols for early versions of Christ so prolific in this "Abrahamic" church, as you claim? See previous point.
Dominic Morgan
All examples of Christians adopting elements of native pagan religions and integrating them with Christianity. These symbols predate Christianity by hundreds if not thousands of years.
Nolan Ramirez
>Are you trying to say that Christianity is not an Abrahamic religion? Im saying, it's superficially Abrahamic, and we can prove it by studying the Flavian Caesars. I'm saying, when the keystone trope of Christianity is also the keystone trope of all "pagan" faiths before it, then your religion is no different from those "pagan" faiths. >Christianity is by definition Abrahamic and evolved from Judaism Christianity was imposed on Jews by Romans who invented it. It doesn't come from Judaism, there are no Jews prior to Josephus -- an adopted member of the Flavian dynasty. >All Indo-European cultures and pagan religions are heavily linked both in terms of deities and symbolism But NOT TO JUDAISM. Pay attention, this is my point.
Put simply, nothing changed from what you consider "paganism" to Christianity, except that the Romans added some "this actually comes from Judaism" narrative -- and you think this makes Christianity "superficially" pagan. Think hard about this, you're missing the obvious along the way.
Christopher Thomas
>there are no Jews *there are no Christian Jews prior to Josephus
Hunter Campbell
I'm afraid I can't agree with you, but it's late here and I have to go to bed so I'm not going to go further with this. Anyway, you're arguing about the wrong thing here. I already told you that the origin of Christianity is only a secondary complaint of mine. My main problem with Christianity is its current state and that is ultimately what is important. And the fact is that current Christianity is weak and Kiked while neo-Paganism, bar denegerate fringe groups, is not.
Isaiah Sanchez
Long time without being here, is good to be back.
Lucas James
ah yes, the good old larping thread for a defunct ideology with no prospect of revival, and certainly not in the countries of the posters
arguing about the theology of fascism is laughably superficial
Samuel Peterson
t. proud British civic nationalist brexiter, disciple of Farage, Trump and Pepe the frog
Carson Campbell
not at all, i'm sure we agree with many fundamental principles
the difference, on the other hand, is that you larp on Sup Forums threads instead of accepting the state of the world like a mature adult
Jason Moore
This. You are only doing damage to other people who want to uphold conversative values
Dylan Jones
not my implication, civic insects like yourself are just as bad
Aaron Powell
What gave you the impression I was civic anything?
Jason Nguyen
Hello comrades, renounce your foul ways and help ups make COMMUNISM GREAT AGAIN!
Julian Lopez
the idea that the far right and far left damage their respective sides further to the centre tends to be an argument of social democrats, civic nationalists and other assorted moderates
in reality, it's just a failure of the moderate ideologies to respond effectively to the other side trying to push the idea that they are affiliated with extremists
Michael Lopez
Any more taylor swift NatSoc propoganda?
Noah Harris
>everyone is stupid except me
Kayden Brooks
DRIVE OUT THE REDDITORS roll no
Cooper Fisher
That's very cute. Next time, you tell all that to the people who are accusing you of being nazis because you don't want arabs and turks in your country.
Hunter White
>Ride the Tiger If this is based off Evola's reasonings, then this /nsg/ is utter trash with logic akin to flat earthers, an utter joke.
Charles White
if you don't want to be considered a retard, a good start might be considering how silly you, an american, sound larping about an ideology centred towards ethnic belonging and collective responsibility there is no large "far right" in the UK and the right wing party is broadly in favour of immigration in an effort to capture the centre ground - opposition to immigration is equated more to civics like ukip rather than "actual" nationalists like the BNP (whom are a joke)
i don't blame you for not understanding basic western politics but do try to research topics before you run your mouth on them
Caleb James
>sound larping about an ideology centred towards ethnic belonging and collective responsibility
If you don't want to be considered a retard, a good start would be to not assume what I follow and believe in.
Ayden Reed
fair - i assumed you were the yank arguing about theology from earlier, my apologies
Mason Nelson
You are the one who went on a tangent because you assumed I was a civic nationalist. I didn't ask you to lecture me.
Brody Myers
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Owen Carter
did not specify "nationalist" in your earliest post carried the implication that you are some kind of moderate conservative, which is as civic as it gets
Ethan Rodriguez
No, YOU assumed that. NatSoc isn't the only form of fascism.
Nolan Barnes
We must secure the existence of our people, and a future for white children.
Lucas Garcia
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Jacob Campbell
>thinking chan was not in aryan hands
Grayson Russell
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Jose Parker
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Sebastian Howard
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Xavier Walker
What are your plans about (((them)))
Evan Davis
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Joseph Bell
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Elijah Russell
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Jack Rodriguez
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Parker Bennett
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Juan Howard
you either classify a person according to their citizenship and culture or their blood, and seeing as you argued against the latter, you are the former
Nathaniel Sullivan
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Joshua Wright
Are arabs included in "White"?
Andrew Gray
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Connor Johnson
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Adrian Adams
No, their black.
Nathaniel Howard
This is not stormfront. Fuck off.
Lincoln Morales
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Logan Butler
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Dylan Bennett
How is it humanly possible to study history and politics and NOT become redpilled on the JQ? It baffles me and I'm starting to feel like I'm going insane.
Gavin Robinson
>been reading up the past few days about how white genes are regressive >black genes are dominant because the only way to create a 'white' child is via two white parents
