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Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

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gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/
livejournal.com/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
livejournal.com/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
youtube.com/watch?v=gBzJGckMYO4
msta1913.org/
utravioletholocaust.wordpress.com/
moorishsociety.org/
kfc.com
youtube.com/watch?v=SoENzQ-rOd0
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youtube.com/watch?v=qTYSv_YQOVo
thecrimson.com/article/2007/2/7/torture-under-pinochet-we-were-peeling/
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Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
gommies.gom/fug/
gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/

>not an argument

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Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
gommies.gom/fug/
gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/

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>give me your redpills /leftypol/
Specifically, the work you do is always worth more than what you are paid, because the capitalist can sell whatever it is you produce for more than you were paid in wages. The productive forces of our society are controlled by a tiny elite instead of by the people, so what ends up happening is that millions of proles sweat their lives away while the porky bastards windsurf in Hawaii.
To put it in terms you might be more familiar with, capitalists are the ultimate welfare queens.
>my stance on hatred of jews and niggers will never change.
To say that your position on any topic will never change is to declare yourself to be beyond reason. That said, those "jews" and "evil niggers" are your natural allies regardless of what you think about them, because they are being exploited just like you are. The leftist position on racism is as much about pragmatism as it is about a commitment to equality.

The basic gist is that capitalism is inherintly broken.
Companies want to make as much money as possible which means paying works the smallest amount possible.
Eventually workers can't afford to buy things, meaning the whole system collapses.
Currently with automation we are going to see a huge loss of jobs that will make the concept of full employment obsolete - so who is going to buy things?
Communism isn't some grand fucking conspiracy about race or western civilisation - its just a question of economics.

>yet another roleplay thread

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ah yes the old capitalism has failed lets replace it with an even shittier system argument. well put gomrade

This is not a game comrade, the future of humanity depends on how quickly we can implement socialism and , eventually, communism. We don't have much time left if we don't change the capitalists ways.

Hah Whoa Kewl Anime My Bro.

>leftist's strawmen

Hah Whoa Kewl Anime My Bro.

The bourgeoisie are the class which owns the means of production but does not use them
you can think of the means of production as anything 'used' to generate profit e.g. a factory, a shop, a car, machinery, etc
if you own means of production but are self-employed, and do not employ anyone else, then you are not bourgeois
if you do not literally own means of production but in effect control it, you are bourgeois (e.g. CEOs who do not literally own their companies, but as they run the company they 'own' it in the sense that they decide what is done with it, they decide their own wages, etc)
a good litmus test:
''1. do you work for a wage?
2. do you get to decide your wage?
3. do you get to decide anyone else's wage?''
if yes to 1 but not to 2 or 3, you are not bourgeois
if yes to 1 and 2 but not to 3, you are petit-bourgeois
if yes to all three, you are in effect bourgeois
if you do not work for a wage at all, but rather own the means of production directly, then you are absolutely bourgeois

If you own a small shop that you run for a living making 50k USD a year you are petite bourgois. If you are a heart surgeon making 150k USD a year but you work for a hospital and you aren't in charge of hiring of firing anyone you are fully proletarian. Labour aristocracy maybe but still proletarian.
It is not a question of income, but a question of ones relationship to the means of production.

Hah Whoa Kewl Anime My Bro.

Capitalism is the only system that makes sense. Give me one example of a country where Communism has failed.

Protip you can't

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>is currently posting gommunism memes on the internet
>somehow despite this thinks he is a proletariat
>is really just a useful idiot

Fuck off commies.

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Its Jews commie filth not capitalism.
Get it through your useful idiot sculls

Hello cucks. This general is for the discussion of Cuckoldry, the ideology of revolutionary open relationships and sexual desire.

Cuckoldry is the next stage of relationship following the monogamy.

What exactly is cuckoldry according to cucks:

>Cuckoldry is a stage of relationship in which the reproductive means of the wife are bull-owned, and husband gets to bed not in order to have sex with her but to prep the bull.
>Cuckoldry in it's full form is a pleasurably degrading, bull-worshipping relationship that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a relationship cuckoldry teaches us that we must replace the standrad marrige, which is controlled by the husband and a wife, by a cucked relationship, which is controlled by the bull. Then, a period of prepping follows in which the bull is pleasured by the cuck. When the bull class has been prepped, there will be time for wife to get mounted by the bull, and eventually the functions of the husband will become indistinguishable from the functions of a porn shot fluffer, and his genitalia will 'wither away' as Marx said.

I don't have any websites but i'm pretty sure OP can help me with that.

guess 100million dead doesnt mean anything to you if you want to try it again

your attention span is that shit you can't read a single sentence. prove me wrong

>protip you can't

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livejournal.com/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
livejournal.com/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

>i should sympathise with niggers because they are exploited
They will be slvaes n matter who rules them theire just too stupid to be free
>capitalism will fall because of automation
And how will comunism solve that?

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Back in da day WE WUZ KANGZ we travel da stars and oda planetz in our space MELANOID ships an shiet.

Woke thingz u need to now to be WOKE

>Dr. Seuss, dat cracka with da rhymes iz da prophet of Satan
>Honkeys wuz made by black science manz as soldiers for fightin our wars for us. But dey rebeled. But ANCIENT BLACK MELANID MAN was wise an shiet and gave honkeys tiny dicks so honkey bitches will allways prefere a nigga.
>Rapture will be raptors (like dem dinosaurs) fallin from da sky and eating honkeys.
>Star Wars an Predator? Tottaly happened. Stay Woke.
>Da Earth is eampty inside an shiet.
>Aborted babies don't be dyin. They are flushed down da toilet an live in da sewers.
>Honkeys drink ya blood.

Resources a nigga need:

msta1913.org/
utravioletholocaust.wordpress.com/
moorishsociety.org/
kfc.com

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youtube.com/watch?v=SoENzQ-rOd0

A communist economic system would be characterized by advanced productive technology that enables material abundance, which in turn would enable the free distribution of most or all economic output and the holding of the means of producing this output in common. In this respect communism is differentiated from socialism, which, out of economic necessity, restricts access to articles of consumption and services based on one's contribution.

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Hah Whoa Kewl Anime My Bro

>cigarette related deaths:306,000,000
>African Slaves trade:150,000,000
>Native American Genocide:114,000,000
>All instances of starvation: 220,011,000

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A communist society would free individuals from long working hours by first automating production to an extent that the average length of the working day is reduced and second by eliminating the exploitation inherent in the division between workers and owners. A communist system would thus free individuals from alienation in the sense of having one's life structured around survival (making a wage or salary in a capitalist system), which Marx referred to as a transition from the "realm of necessity" to the "realm of freedom." As a result, a communist society is envisioned as being composed of an intellectually-inclined population with both the time and resources to pursue its creative hobbies and genuine interests, and to contribute to creative social wealth in this manner. Karl Marx considered "true richness" to be the amount of time one has at his or her disposal to pursue one's creative passions. Marx's notion of communism is in this way radically individualistic.

Hah Whoa Kewl Anime My Bro

>A communist economic system would be characterized by blablablabla
Actually, it brought you death by couple patriotic Finns

Suojeluskunnat Suomenmaassa
järjestystä vaatii,
kaikki ryssät maasta pois
ja alas punakaarti.

Hei! Saksanniemi, Jääkärijoukko,
Lapuan ja Härmän joukko,
Vöyri, Kauhava ja muut...

Jääkäreillä mukanaan
on menestys ja onni,
meikäläisten vyöllä riippuu
saksalainen pommi.

Hei! Saksanniemi, Jääkärijoukko,
Lapuan ja Härmän joukko,
Vöyri, Kauhava ja muut...

Pikkuryssät Pietarissa
näkee pahaa unta,
Venäjä on rajamaa
ja Suomi valtakunta.

Hei! Saksanniemi, Jääkärijoukko,
Lapuan ja Härmän joukko,
Vöyri, Kauhava ja muut...

Eespäin veikot, pelko pois
ja rivakasti tahti,
suojeluskunnat Suomenmaan
on vapauden vahti.

Hei! Saksanniemi, Jääkärijoukko,
Lapuan ja Härmän joukko,
Vöyri, Kauhava ja muut...
youtube.com/watch?v=VvDBKPADpT8

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Proponents of capitalism argue that the real living standards of those on low pay are better raised by allowing the whole economy to grow. As it grows, those at the bottom of the social heap will benefit from wealth that ‘trickles down’ from the top.
The falsity of this argument can be seen by looking at the figures.
The long term rate of growth of the UK economy is 2.5 percent per annum(1993).

How many years would it take a woman earning the median wage to get up to £300 per week at this growth rate? The answer is 30 years: check it on your calculator. Socialist redistribution could achieve directly what would otherwise take the better part of a working lifetime. With socialism the employee can have her cake and eat it too. She gets a once and for all rise in income through redistribution, but economic growth does not stop, so she will continue to enjoy rising earnings year by year.

Sad.

Kek.

>no big headed scientists link
for shame my nigga. Yous needs to be awoke to yo cosmic self

yo, stop being a commie
datz wack

Hah Whoa Kewl Anime My Bro

Why doesn't a group of communists come together, pool their money, create an automated factory and share the rewards equally today?

Were people in communist societies historically free to choose not to work?

How did the Soviet Union deal with those who refused to work?

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Mannerheimi sano: "Nyt sitä lähtään
silmien väliin ryssiä tähtään!"
Silmien välliin, silmien välliin,
silmien välliin ryssää juu.

Silmien välliin ryssää,
kyllä se siihen tyssää,
silmien välliin, silmien välliin,
silmien välliin ryssää juu.

Turhaan ne politrukit huutaa ja hossuu,
Suomessa ei elä vinkkelitossu.
Silmien välliin...

Onhan se tommonen ryssän kettu
ennenkin Suomessa korvennettu.
Silmien välliin...

Iivanat täältä ei löydä kottiin,
kaikki ne mätänee Karjalan mottiin.
Silmien välliin...

Puukolla puhki se Aasian paise,
Suomessa ryssä ei kauan haise.
Silmien välliin...
youtube.com/watch?v=YAw2DBwtALQ

I couldn't decide which one pick.
What do you think about this one?
youtube.com/watch?v=KDqmSYSonYw

hmmm that sounds a lot like a co-op.... but how can that be? Co-op employees make less than their capitalistically-employed counterparts, but communism claims that workers will earn more under communism?!?!

hmmmmm really bounces my beans

Replace "anti-communism" with "anti-nationalism" or "anti-racism", and that quote will sudeenly a perfect summarisation of all the Western (((democratic))) political parties in existence.

>How did the Soviet Union deal with those who refused to work?
Usually they put them into high party positions.

europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?type=TA&reference=P6-TA-2008-0523&language=EN

European Parliament resolution of 23 October 2008 on the commemoration of the Holodomor, the Ukraine artificial famine (1932-1933)

>gommunism

I sure love the smell of dead communists....

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I love how on the internet every time when someone mentions communism, middle class college art students are the ones making pro-communist arguments, while the people who lived under it (or whose) parents and grandparents lived under it always shit on it. College students from western european and north american countries are the most ignorant people on planet earth, it's mind-blowing how uninformed they are. not just about communism, but about everything.

Socialism comes from marxism/communism - it is all one lie built on another lie - all propagated by the Father of lies -

Communism is a Jewish ideology for the goyim and used to install themselves as parasite rulers. They promise paradise but in reality communism is a way for Jews to have their "2800 slaves"

The ideology attract idiots and midwits who don't think it through to figure out why it doesn't work.

Communism is a Jewish stain on humanity.

Why did Hitler hate jews? Rabbi Yosef Tzvi ben Porat will explain to you
youtube.com/watch?v=qTYSv_YQOVo

>muh Stalin dindu nuffin, it was dem evil azz Kulaks, wanting to keep dey food an shiet

thecrimson.com/article/2007/2/7/torture-under-pinochet-we-were-peeling/

>This triggers the soviet cuck
youtube.com/watch?v=Pn-FIFcNwBM

youtube.com/watch?v=FOwhpnxHYiA&spfreload=1

*Teleports behind you*

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This is now a Mike Pence thread

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youtube.com/watch?v=k7b9Asjs1_E

The Socialism of the petty-bourgeois is a Socialism of administrators: liberal, confused, individualist, sometimes Utopian, sometimes reactionary. Petty-bourgeois culture is capitalistic, fixated on the defence of the old order and on a mass education which will conform to the interests of the propertied classes. The petty-bourgeois mentality tends, above all in politics, to separate action from the word: the word is conceived as an antagonist to action or as a false substitute for it (compare the ‘ symbolic gestures’ practised by French radicalism). The bravest souls of the Russian middle classes, who sympathized with the revolution long before it became a reality, thought it should be confined to the bourgeois revolution which would open an era of sound reforms. Proletarian revolution appears to them like an invasion of barbarians, a collapse into anarchy, a blasphemy against the idea of revolution itself.The middle classes wanted the bourgeois revolution to inaugurate a democratic re-public in which they would have constituted the administrative classes and where capitalist development would have proceeded unchecked: this conception was particularly firm among the Mensheviks and the S-Rs who at this time were the most conscious ideologists of the petty-bourgeoisie.

The Utopianism of this class was also shocked by the reality of the revolution: the harsh, bloody reality that was so different from the romantic idyll they had often dreamed of. The workers and the soldiers had quite another approach here, accustomed as they were to living among harsh and bloody realities, enduring necessities in all their naked brutality, brought up in the school of repression and imperialist war.

To the enlightened middle classes, the October Revolution seemed like a putsch engineered by a handful of fanatical doctrinaires with the support of a frightful, anarchic movement of uncivilized commoners.

Victor Serge: 'Year One of the Russian Revolution ' (1930)

if thats not proof of mental illness i dont know what is

>if you don't follow this Jewish ideology then we should make it a thread for Israeli puppet
>Israeli wars are our wars
lol

Communism is garbage. Total fucking garbage.

i lived under communism, it was good. Rich western jews dont want their wealth to be redistributed. Continue to work as a slave and suck capitalist jewish cock.

Thank you for making these. Alt-right butthurt about violating their safe space is just priceless.

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>indian
>defending capitalism
>gg wp

Oфигeнный тpeд, тoвapищ!

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>Jew
>Defending communism