Who/how do Germans work a LOT less than Americans (210-215 days a year on average) yet they have higher living standard...

who/how do Germans work a LOT less than Americans (210-215 days a year on average) yet they have higher living standard and their country is an economic force nevertheless?

Because the Americans have a lot of lazy brown people who take 8 hours to do what a German does in 2.
Luckily, Germany is trying its best to fix that problem.

Regulations, strength, intellect. Safety net.

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The question should be why do Americans claim they are a first world country when they barley better then mexico?

Germans have what Americans allow them to have. Wait till we meme VW/BMW/Benz to mean nazi supporter and kill NiggerKraut exports.

Nothing more to add.

"work/life balance" is more of a thing here, we have aspirations other than make money

Can confirm something similiar here in Ireland. My friend works in the IT department in one of the major banks. He was given an assignment by his boss on Monday. Before finishing up at 17:00, he came back to his boss and told her, I only have one task left, I''ll finish up with that tomorrow morning. She was looking at him with wide eyes open and told him: "That was your assignment for the whole week." Mind telling you he's Croatian where people work like crazy for shit money, and here Irish people are lazy as shit and are earning shit load of money.

Because we pay for their defense.

Taxes

yeah but you do make shitload of money. how/why is that? that's the question.

jew golds

Brown people

Its literally that simple

Greek immigrants.

Can confirm. Used to live in Germany and they always separated work from everything else wveb the work day was over. Americans take their work home with them, stress about it, and continue working past work hours

fairly certain after a your christmas festivals require roadblocks to prevent the religion of peace from murdering everyone your standard of living isn't higher

See

They took action against the Jewish problem who kept siphoning their wealth away

Have you looked at the median income of Germany compared to the US?

Where do you get that Germany is richer?

Very strong industrial base for high-tech products, especially machinery.

The opposite. Germany has a lot of people who work themselves to death while the freeloaders lower their overall average.

Oh yeah and we don't have shitlots of brown people huh

You have discovered your purpose, leaf. Go forth and make it so before we annex you.

Germans don't work themselves to death lol stop watching pro nazi propaganda youtube films

Higher educated Americans make more money for less work, lower educated germans make more money but work more.
60k $ a year in germany is pretty much.
In Sweden avg is 30-40k BEFORE taxes, for most jobs40-60k maybe for mid/higher

also, unlike the US, germany has basically zero ressources, we are paying billions every year to keep the EU alive, and a good part of germany used to be a socialist shithole for half a century - and yet we do way better than the US, and, quite frankly, almost anyone in the world. damn, feels good to be germany.

for some reason germans just keep on working. Most of us just really use those 8 hours a day to get shit done.
I guess work ethics come to mind, really. You wouldn't want to be a slacker in a german workplace - the amount of outright hate you get from ethnic germans when you don't give everything is insane...

all our "new germans" are more lazy and/or inefficient at work than the rest (some exceptions of course)

Germans are simply superior humans, there's no debate about that.
Consider that USA is occupied by niggers, jews and the remaining sewage from UK - known as "white" people.
It doesn't help that Britons are already pretty retarded themselves - mainly due to centuries of inbreeding and pedophilia.

Very efficient work ethics. No shit talking, no meaningless meetings, no long lunch brakes, ... we go to work and WORK. Very productive. And if you do business with other companies you can easily trust them. In the US they usually just think about themselves and that also kills efficiency.
Unfortunately, the American work style is getting more and more popular here, especially in IT and startups. Tabletennis at work, relax areas, etc.

>Where do you get that Germany is richer?
Free education, more paid holidays, insurance, very good infrastructure, science, etc.
Would not say richer but also not poorer. It's not always about how much is in your money pocket.

work ethic is a myth. the productivity per hour worked is not that much higher in germany, than in the US, and lower than in France. yet i never heard of the superior french work ethics, although they are more productive than germans (the dutch and some other europeans too, btw). this however is because of eastern germany. without the ossis western germany is a little bit more productive than the french, and about equal to dutch and swedes.

the reason for this productivity is capital endowment and smart economic policies. the economic policies of the US are dumber, than Europe's, this is why we have an advantage despite having no ressources.

fpbp

we protected our industry, instead

but we don't make THAT much money. average wage for full-time employment is around 40.000e. after taxes, that's 2200e a month.

>we protected our industry, instead

... instead of switching into a financial circlejerk economy. germany produces a lot of things that are of real value to the world and exports them due to our undervalued currency.

The same reason as all the rest of Europe. We pay for their defense. If the US suddenly had an extra 700 billion in revenue every year to play with, we could buy all sorts of goodies while simultaneously nitpicking about how violent the people who protect us are.

that's wrong. most of your expenses have been caused by an attack war on iraq (not a defensive one) and fixing your real estate circlejerk economy.

>The same reason as all the rest of Europe. We pay for their defense.

defense from fucking what? boogeyman?

IQ variation doesn't limit itself broad classes like 'black', 'white'. German IQ is the highest among huwhites, it's up with North East Asian. Plus they got that legendary conscientiousness and orderliness going for them which makes for greater efficiency all around.

Hey, Istria!

>higher standard of living

When will this meme about Europe end? These people are stuffed into weird little townhouses that have three doors that they share with two other families. The rest live in fucking apartments and will never own property or pass anything down to the next generation

You know what we call that in America? Niggers

He's right, you know.

>an attack war on iraq

That happened because we are positioned as an unchecked world police force arising out of a perceived need to defend the entire western world.

>fixing your real estate circlejerk economy.

Worldwide economic centers always have horrible economic gamesmanship. Tulipmania in the Netherlands when it was the economic center. The South Sea Bubble in England when it was the economic center. It's the drawback you get from having all that money flooding into your country. The other side of that is that there is a ton of money flowing into the country which, if we didn't have to defend everyone, could be spent on other things that would increase the quality of life.

If you want to point to something we spend all our money on, it would be poor people who put in less than they take out, which is a problem you guys will become acquainted with very soon.

Well, originally, from each other.

Even as deep into the refugee crisis as you are you have no idea.
I live in an area in Burgerstan that's 95% white and I still know by name several dozen non white people by name.
And that's nothing compared to when I lived in Silicon valley, and was actually a minority as a white person.

is this bait?

What makes me wonder is, that even tho germany is being chained by the EU and pretty much an occupied Territory for NATO/US doing, we still manage to threaten them with our "strong economy"
Where is that "strength" coming from? If our work ethics aren't "better" than that of France or Britain, i don't really believe we are smarter with our economic policies (given the fact that we are literally officially ZOG after next election)

>That happened because we are positioned as an unchecked world police force arising out of a perceived need to defend the entire western world.

europe didn't feel threatened by iraq at all, why should it? germany even refused to go to war at all, that's how obsolete the war seemed to us. the nations that did feel threatened by iraq were the gulf monarchies, your strategic allies in the middle east.

the iraq war was and had little to do with money we (europeans) didn't spend on our defense.

>Worldwide economic centers always have horrible economic gamesmanship.

maybe. my point still stands: you spent grotesque sums to mop up the consequences of the financial crisis. the cost was greater than all your pre-bush wars combined.

>If you want to point to something we spend all our money on, it would be poor people who put in less than they take out

i don't get this point, because in every advanced country the average citizen receives more than he pays in tax money. only the top 10% of any country are significant net contributors.

Definitely true. Work is a part of our social life in a lot of ways. And one of the biggest things Americans aspire to do, I would say, is work in a job they enjoy, therefor making work more like a hobby.

Of course, most people don't magically accomplish that. But if you have someone who is really into computers building one outside of work hours, it's probably something they like doing and are willing to put the extra hours into.

Other people will work overtime to try and get ahead.

We have a major problem right now of the system being too big and other people trying to get a free ride right now, though, which drags down the entire country. I've seen people who have handicap parking because they stutter and other people who "just can't work" because of stress. On the other hand, you have people with bad feet or broken bones who won't take the handicap parking because "someone might need it more than them" and people who will work three jobs to get by.

>that even tho germany is being chained by the EU

that's a meme, user.
germany has a gargantuan trade surplus, never seen by any country in history, due to the undervaluation the euro.

what makes us "strong", besides the mentioned trade surplus, is simply reasonable policies. we never gave up upon our industry, as the brits did, we never surrendered our competitiveness to an overvalued currency, as the french and italians did.
there is little corruption in germany, our professional (e. g. non-university) education system is outstanding, our geographic position central and we have large industrial conglomerates that predate the nazi days. that's what we have going for us.

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UK's is higher, Sweden's is higher, Italy's is higher....

Im ernst?
You guys eat 5 euro packages of cardboard with a thin layer of the butchers wifes vaginal discharge smeered on it... so that you can afford a BMW and spend all your free time washing it.

Your living standard is shit and you try and use it like a virtue "jaaa we live simple because we don't need much cuz we so smahrt and superior".

All the while from dawn til dusk constantly bitching about every fuckin aspect of your lives and passive aggressively taking it out on anyome you meet.

Germany is a boring shithole.

then again, what exactly are we getting out of our trade surplus ? Aren't we just slaving away our excess to the US military since they simply keep raking up the national debt?
What way of enforcing our end of the bargain do we have, once they decide to default this shit?

it's not like the Euro is giving us, the average joe, some good purchasing power compared to the good ol' Deutschmarks. Remember when they released the Euro the changerates were 2DM : 1Eur, do you even remember what you could buy with 2DM compared to 1Euro?

i think there's something awfully wrong here

After 2 years with a company you get a permanent contract making it almost impossible to fire someone.
Shitbag Hans calls in sick for 2 weeks at least 4 times a year and when he's at work he's bitching about how Jörg is lazy while directing the horde of turkish temp workers to get back to work.

>what exactly are we getting out of our trade surplus ?

jobs that wouldn't be there otherwise.
manufacturing jobs were rapidly fleeing france, italy and the united kingdom, leading to a significant drop in living standards. we, thanks to our undervalued currency and outsourcing to eastern europe (an option other western euro countries didn't have), got to keep many high-quality jobs in the export sector, whereas they disappeared elsewhere.

as for purchasing power: the italians didn't really gain purchasing power due to a much stronger currency, they want their lira back. since they don't have jobs or growth at all and can't pay their debt as easily as we do.

>the iraq war was and had little to do with money we (europeans) didn't spend on our defense.

It is the direct result of a global defense scheme we put in place because you guys could not stop genociding each other. You guys exporting your defense to us is how we have the legitimacy to randomly invade countries in the first place. Nobody is checking us so it turned into a corrupt mess.

>you spent grotesque sums to mop up the consequences of the financial crisis. the cost was greater than all your pre-bush wars combined.

Yes and we recieve grotesque sums because we are the worldwide marketplace. If you put a lot of capital in one place, some people are going to abuse that system. If we used the money we made off those markets for our own benefit, we would have a massively better quality of life rather than just a moderate one.

>i don't get this point, because in every advanced country the average citizen receives more than he pays in tax money. only the top 10% of any country are significant net contributors.

Trust me, in 10-20 years you will get this, you will watch it happen around you. The guy taking out 20 and giving back 18 is a far cry from the guy taking out 50 and giving back drugs, terrorist attacks, or destructive ideology.

>germans
>working less
top kek
German's love to work, how else will that support their wife's Somalian boyfriend?

Socialism.

It has tons of downsides, but it works. It's a compromise system, so it sucks all around but it does work. Americans just aren't willing to tolerate double digit unemployment as "full employment" or pay for three years of unemployment benefits while people try to find jobs in countries that demand six figure fees for basic business licenses.

Honestly, if Europe hadn't gone so kookoo for muh european (small e) socialism and tacked on bizarre social education programs, neo-colonialist trade policies, and all of the EU's nonsense, then Americans would probably have a much more positive opinion of socialism and embraced a lot of socialist policies, like Americans did before Europe went nuts.

So heres what I took away from working with Americans what might affect their output:
For once I think they hold too many poorly planned and poorly executed meetings and generally have trouble communicating as clearly as Germans do.
But the main issue I think is that US companies treat their workers like shit, with little to no vacation, especially in the beginning, a severe lack of trust in their own staff as well as management and workers acting more like adversaries than colleagues.
You can't expect people to do more than the necessary minimum when you treat them like that.

Productivity.

Japan/UK are notoriously unproductive.

You know the American system is predicated on the idea that you get treated like shit, advance, then live like a king, right? It's all about incentives. The worst kind of incentives, sure, but people get treated like crap to give them a motive to get out of their shit job.

You can rightly call it a form of social Darwinism, but don't pretend it's a basic logical fallacy like communism. The American economy and similar ones consistently grow, even in recessions, which mainly happen due to bubbles and/or bad fiscal policies.

You know Germany's trade policy is explicitly neo-colonialist, right? That's the point of the trade surplus, to improve the German economy at the expense of your trade partners (outside of the Eurozone).

>You know Germany's trade policy is explicitly neo-colonialist, right

Rubbish.

>Productivity.
>Japan/UK are notoriously unproductive.

How so? Japanese are working themselves to death. They even have a word for it.

>higher living standard
>be thrown in prison for resisting forced sodomy from a Muslim man's sexual emergency
Nah.

The Germans are running a house of cards sham economy. It's based on an undervalued Euro, same thing the chinks are doing to the US. There's no magical German gene. They're sucking the continent dry like a vampire squid. Most of you are too young to remember how Germany was well up until the late 90s so you'll not understand this.

>Trust me, in 10-20 years you will get this, you will watch it happen around you. The guy taking out 20 and giving back 18 is a far cry from the guy taking out 50 and giving back drugs, terrorist attacks, or destructive ideology.

not that i debate the negative effects of our demographic change. but then, you'll become a majority non-white country sooner. (i'm not gloating about it, i'm actually rather worried about the world our children will live in.

>neo-colonialist

wat.
we're living under an economic currency bloc proposed by the french.

Fpbp
>diversity is our greatest handicap

But most time they are just pretending to work (dont leave the office before the boss) and arent really productive

Right, that magical scheme, where only Germany can win, even though everyone has the same rules.

It's called productivity

Thanks Romania you always have been a true allie way better than the italians

Greeks work the most hours in Europe. Doesnt mean productive.

>It's all about incentives
Well, I believe that people respond better to positive stimuli, but that is probably a religious-war-tier kind of debate.
>shit job
From what I saw it happens at good jobs too.
>The American economy and similar ones consistently grow
The German economy grows just as well too, so both our way seems to work too.

tell me about Polish supermarket chain in Germany

Works smarter not harder.

I work 237 days a year and I think I'm being lazy.

>they do they jobs we wont
dont worry, its going to change ALL change for germany very soon.

>your standard of living isn't higher

lmao

It's a myth though. Germans are literally wageslaves. In 2016, they worked 1.8 BILLION hours in overtime, half of which they got zero compensation for.