Why are Greeks so proud?

>Byzantium simply overrated
>It was getting BTFO all the time by the Bulgarian and Latin Empires
>Lost Constantinople to roaches
>Currently dead broke with no future

So why are Greeks so nationalistic?

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>So why are Greeks so nationalistic?
Because they're turks in denial.

t. Ahmed roachmed

Literary every point is wrong, looks like a lazy bait.

>implying you must have a reason to be nationalistic

Explain how "every point" is wrong.

At the very last, discussions about greece.

Let's start with the fact that we were a little late but in the 1800s we did kick roaches out of greece and now they cry over the Aegean sea they lost.

It's the other way around actually.

Still waiting

This is what I don't get. The turks did a fuckhuge rape campaign in greece and in the balkans, how the fuck are turks the rapebabies?

Because even though your country is in the shitter, at least you feel comfort to know that you aren't Canadian

>implying you must have a reason to be nationalistic
I read some pretty retarded shit on Sup Forums over the years, but this surely takes the cake.

>>Lost Constantinople to roaches

constantinople is a great loss but it was raided twice by the crusaders before the roaches.

If you rape your enemies,they win.

You're an idiot. People are not proud of their country because they think it's the best, but rather because it is theirs.

Funny a leaf would think this - your country is neither the best or yours.

Sorry to hear.

nor* mine. Dumb fucking Latvian or whatever the fuck that flag is. Learn to speak English before you post on public forums.

Because we civilised u dummy.

>Explain how "every point" is wrong.
Were the Byzantines subjucated by the Bulgarians or was it the other way around? Winning some battles means nothing if you get conquered in the end.

That's because actual Turks are no different from Mongols, what you see now in Turkey are bunch of Balkan-Anatolian mongrels

I think if you lose your wealth and bling you have a clearer understanding of who you are. Consumerism is cancer, identity is everything.

WE WUZ SOCRATES AND SHIEET NIGGA

Same reason polacks are : too stupid to do anything else. Merkel gave us too much money, so we dont have anything better to do, so we pretend that our shitholes are cool n shit.
Except greece at least once was cool.

They may be broke but at least they have some sense of nationalism. Perhaps it's because they're broke.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_III_Doukas_Vatatzes

I'm not going to claim I'm a historian, but I can put 2 and 2 together and have studied Europe from 0-1000AD extensively. What I see from this post: is that the Bulgarian Empire won like 90% of the battles. That isn't just "some battles."

Byzantines were also beat by drunk Catholics and also cockroaches. Latins weren't even that hard to beat, Bulgaria won like 9 out of 10 battles vs them or something like that. Meanwhile Byzantines lost their fucking capital to them!

I understand that the Byzantines subjugated the Bulgarians for a century, I don't disagree with that. But I mean, they regained their freedom from you.

>btfo all the time by the bulgarians

Oh I didnt realise that the bulgarians conquered the Byzantine, actually it was the over way around

>the latin empire btfo the byzantines.

True. The dirty crusaders sacked the most glorious city and the byzantines re took the city with 800 men while the latin emperor ran away look it up.

Didnt know they were. You should complain about their roach neighbours. Both the ones on their east as the ones in the north.

Correction, 7 out of 8

You are a retard let's start by the basics

First actual human civilisation was developed in the Greek isles and continues to today's Greece.We literally WUZ KANGZ that's undisputable.We took over the whole world one time we decided to stop fighting each other(Alexander)we developed every science and every social consturct.We got conquered by the Roman Empire and we were so fucking incredible they became basically Greeks.Some years into the Roman Empire we had greek Emperors and we even told the catholics to fuck off and made our own church that wasn't ruled by a shitty pope.Byzantium was a great Empire and the start of western enlightenment came from Byzantines.We developed christianity and we had such a great influence in the world that we have original Bible passages written in ancient Greek

After we got conquered and fucked over by the roaches we somehow managed to keep every bit of our culture,religion and morals without losing anything to the brutal ottomans.The HURRR DURR YOU TURKS is a bad meme,Turks raped Greek women,took the kids and made them Turks.Genichari army

Once we stopped infighting once more we fucked over the Ottomans WEARING FUCKING SKIRTS and having shit weapons.We managed to take control of most of our rightful land and we even got as far as Smirna.After the downing of the Ottoman rule and in the Venice rulen areas brilliant people were popping up all over the place.The downfall of Greece didn't start until the Junta failed.AKA LEARN HISTORY LEAF

That Latin Empire joke didn't even last for 100 years. Byzantium lasted almost 1000 and they had excellent architecture (Hagia Sophia, Constantinople sanitation,...) and were literally the heirs of Rome. Fuck off roach.

>Claims Byzantine is overrated
>Blames them for losing Constantinopolis
Why do you care about it, if it is overrated? Oh hey, you are a troll.

I don't have a card in play man. I am not Turkish or Greek or Bulgarian. Or even European. I just simply think Byzantium is overrated.

>with 800 men while the latin emperor ran away look it up.

Nah, send link

>Oh I didnt realise that the bulgarians conquered the Byzantine, actually it was the over way around

But they fought for their independence and received it. They also destroyed your entire army in your first battle. Picture related. Also, refer to this post for all battles:

Diaspora LARPERS think they can fool us lol

Even way before Byzantium they have glorious history
All our first philosophers are Greek for god sake
Sage and fuck off

It's probably an albo or a turk migrant.

Cypriots are hellenized levantines. You're not real Greeks

>I don't have a card in play man. I am not Turkish or Greek or Bulgarian. Or even European.
No you aren't European. You are a roach though.

YOU DENSE MOTHERFUCKER,WE TURNED BULGARIANS TO ORTHODOX CHRISTIANS,THAT IS HOW MUCH WE INFLUENCED THE WORLD.BULGARIANS THE ONES WE WERE FIGHTING WITH

I am proud to be Greek, because:
- Nobody can deny our contributions to the best civilization on earth, the Western Civilization. This one is worth multiple points, I 'm just trying to be as brief as possible.
- We 've lost many wars, but we 've won many wars.
- We have had most our men die in war multiple times, and we keep coming back. After all the turmoils we 've been through, we are still here. Although our country was ruined several times during the 20th century, no motherfucker can get rid of us.
- Our men are handsome and tough fighters.
- Our beaches are great, our sun is heavenly.
- We have a great shipping industry (even though most of it is under foreign flags for tax reasons). Greeks are more or less the best crew a ship can wish for (not cheap though).
- We 're great at some sports, like basketball.
- Our dads and moms are the greatest people in the world. Family means something here.
- Hitler wanted us, Churchill wanted us, Stalin wanted us.

I may be forgetting some reasons, but I think you get tthe idea.

And my personal favorite:

>Byzantines had their Emperor Nikephoros killed in a battle vs the Bulgarian Emperor Krum
>Bulgarian Emperor makes a silver lined cup out of Nikephoros' skull and uses it to drink wine

When will the Byzantine embarrassment end?

and the greatest ancient philosopher was a Macedonian who retards in Athens didn't like and throw him out of the city after Alexander the Great's death. RIP Aristotle, those idiot Greeks didn't know your value. What would you expect from future rape babies? they even killed Socrates. Those bastards,

>he thinks that the Latins after the 4th crusade were as strong as the ones who crusaded
You do realise that the Nicaeans BTFO the Latins many times, right? In the end the Byzantines regained Greece from the Latins, also funny how you mentioned the roaches when the Bulgarians were the first ones to fall against them

So you only love your country and your people if its rich and gives you a better life? If you were brought up poor would you hate your parents? You have a nigger mentality, depraved of values and loyalty, a fucking leaf.

>Azerbaijan is butthurt about fucking Socrates
This website never ceases to amaze me

They got fucked by the EU. They still remember what Germany did to them in WW2 (amazingly they were the country which suffered the most in their hands lol). When this happens, it's natural to go back to your roots. Even if you haven't much to show for, you're still going to be nationalistic as a way to defend yourself and those you love. It's like what happened when Switzerland was formed.

>t. roach

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GUISEEE I AM NOT A ROACH,I AM TOTALLY JUST A CANADIAN COMMENTING ON INTERNATIONAL THINGS N SHIET.

Get analy raped by ahmed leaf

I love your country and your flag

>The Christianization of Bulgaria - the process by which 9th-century medieval Bulgaria converted to Christianity - reflected the shifting political alliances of Tsar Boris I of Bulgaria (ruled 852-889) with the kingdom of the East Franks and with the Byzantine Empire, as well as his reception by the Pope.

>Byzantines took over Bulgaria in 12th century

When you have to lie to defend your history, that's when things get sad. Bulgaria at certain moments was the most influential empire in Eastern Europe, spreading Orthodoxy and their Cyrillic alphabet all over Europe.

Once again, I'm not saying they were more influential than the Byzantines. Al I am saying is that Byzantium is OVERRATED

it's called janissaries you roach in denial

Why are you mentioning Skopja? It's a nation full of races. Bulgarians, Albanians and Greeks and they made a stupid story about a supposedly DIFFERENT nation called MACEDONIA.

Even the US proposed for Skopja to cease to exist.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexios_Strategopoulos


Fuck yourself

"It matters not who wins the battles but who wins the war"

Not many people know this.BUT THE JEWS DID THIS.Read up on it.Goldman sachs cooked the papers to look like Greek could survive an economic alliance with countries like GERMANY and SWITZERLAND

I'm Catalan not Greek. You were based back then and that's the truth.

Listen Ivan, I know you're still butthurt about this but you can't change it
>In 1014 Basil was ready to launch a campaign aimed at destroying Bulgarian resistance. On 29 July 1014, Basil II and his general Nikephoros Xiphias outmanoeuvred the Bulgarian army, which was defending one of the fortified passes, in the Battle of Kleidion. Samuel avoided capture only through the valour of his son Gabriel. Having crushed the Bulgarians, Basil exerted his vengeance by cruelty - he was said to have captured 15,000 prisoners and blinded 99 of every 100 men, leaving one one-eyed man in each cohort to lead the rest back to their ruler. Samuel was physically struck down by the dreadful apparition of his blinded army and died two days later, on 6 October 1014, after suffering a stroke.

this

Greek reverse psychology

>Byzantine embarrassment end

LOL Basil the bulgar slayer literally blinded 15.000 bulgars and sent them back to bulgaria, which gave the bulgar king a heart attack and died.

They love life, and know how to enjoy it. Even when broke.

When a battle happens once every 50 years, it's not a battle. It's a war. Check this once more:

heey barca got fucked though

According to Wiki
Size
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13599 (1574)
37627 (1609)

I still don't get it.

we wuz ISIS

Yeah I've heard about this story. Yes this was boss as fuck I can't lie. One of the rare moments when the Byzantines were actually boss.

But then came Ivan Asen I

The byzantines won and conquered bulgaria. The opposite didnt happen

At this point you're just shitposting so sage

Greeks who mixed with Turks became Muslim, and in turn were considered Turks. Funny how it worked out

They once ruled most of the known world and their language and culture was copied by everyone around them. At one point in time all of modern turkey was inhabited by Greeks and that lasted for thousands of years.

>So why are Greeks so nationalistic?

Why are you there diaspora in Canada instead of Bulgaria?

those greek janissaries sent to Turkey.Those janissaries made families.Those families of janissaries made their own families and so go on

So yes turks are literally greek rapebabies

Yes, Basil II was a powerful ruler, maybe Byzantiums most powerful. But alas:

Genuinely good post by you though, Aristokles. It's what I am looking for. Friendly, historic banter.

>Had to sell off artifacts to even survive
>Cucking to the rest of Europe for gibsmedats
>Reduced the population of the empire from millions to thousands
B-BTFO

They clearly won't get the Champions this year.

But they also fought for and regained their independence. Just like the Byzantines did with the Latins.

Plus the turk rapebabies in Greece sent back to Turkey with the exchange population

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_exchange_between_Greece_and_Turkey

Because I'm not Bulgarian, as mentioned here.Knowing the history of a country does not mean I am from there. Educate yourself.

Kek. I said the Byzantines were overrated. But I'd never compare you fuckers to fucking ISIS.

>mfw reading about the destruction of the Imperial Library of Constantinople
all those Greek and Roman works which we could've known today were lost forever

even if pol is pro nazi, the greeks fought valiantly against the nazis.

The funny thing about this is that Greece before they fought in WW2 was a fascist state and only fought in the side of the allies because Italy invaded them.

Why a tatar living in Canada is so interested in Greece and Greek people?

Hitler didn't want to fight Greece.Churchill started the war.National Socialism is not about German nationalism,it is about a nationalistic ideology to apply to your own country and your own people.At the time that Hitler came to Greece we literally had fascist rule

because they aren't cucks like canada

cyprbro you are in my head

Ok Mehmet, meanwhile roaches are walking around with 25% central and eastern Asian in them. Greeks have some of the lowest levels of asian dna ancestry when compared to other euros, do the match roach.
Nice bait retard.
Retard, no, look up Battle of Kleidion and many more, Bulgars started to behave in the end anyway.

poor people have nothing else to dress in but their pride

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kek

kinda sad though how right after the war the commies got their chance to cause a catastrophic civil war which damaged the country on a massive scale

Why is anybody nationalistic? Because of monkey-level tribalism that's holding humanity back. I mean fuck, the only reason why my piece of shit country exists is because of unjustified Croatian patriotism.

go back to the cuckshed

It's sad how a majority thinks the commies were the heroes and how they were pardoned and came back from the iron curtain to really wreck things in the labor markets.

Their resistance was overrated.They killed like 1k nazis and then they wanted to rule over Greece beacuse "they saved us" but they didn't want to fight until daddy stalin told them to.They literally had papers in 1940 telling commies.DON'T FIGHT THE NAZIS GUISE,THEY ARE IN PEACE WITH STALIN.GOOOD GUISE I TELL YOU.Cowards,traitors,they killed babies and women,they burned down whole villages and none of that happened for an actual purpose other than DADDY STALIN TOLD US SO.THEY ARE BUILDING A MEMORIUM FOR BELOGIANNIS.THE FUCKING DENSE SYRIZA GOVERNMENT,Papadopoylos was perfect,who the fuck stopped him

reddit is where you need to be

The commie resistance was also killing greeks, not only did they kill nazis, but they killed everyone else they could that wasn't down with communism. Fuck them, and fuck the assholes who praise them as heroes and saviors.

Gee you sure thats

"Just a little late"

roach remember you are on the verge of civil war and you suck Putin dick in order to survive an imminent attack by us

>Papadopoylos was perfect,who the fuck stopped him
I wonder ((((who))))

Commies are always the scum of earth.THIS FUCKING HERO KILLED COMMIES AND NAZIS AND AT POINT HE INSTRUCTED NAZIS TO KILL COMMIES.rip you legend

Greater Serbia is better, but only if it takes over Croatia entirely.