It's Holy Friday my dudes!
But is no excuse for our politicians and MSM to respectively work on their defense and talk about Fachin's List, Odebrech directors plea bargains and other stuff.
Our republic is going to hell, if it falls, what new system you think could replace it and work better? And if you still republican, how can we reform it?
/brg/ - BRAZILIAN POLLY-TICS GENERAL DISCUSSION
Michael Smith
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James Brown
Explain me why did you got rid of Based Emperor?
Liam Wright
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Benjamin Butler
There is no Integralism without Nacionalism! ANAUÊ!
Evan White
Just an edgy phase, dad. Please take us back ;_;
Evan Gutierrez
You still have gold?
Ryan Cook
We spent everything on traps and imported junk.
William Anderson
Lucas Johnson
Was a very interesting story;
Ruy Barbosa, Deodoro and other high rank officials from the army and local oligarchies wanted more power and D.Pedro was trying to curtail them.
The republicans, before the creation of the Republican Party gathered around the Liberal Party, that had many local inflammatory newspapers.
They tried to do a coup in the early days before the end of Paraguay War, but they failed. Was a ridiculous cause: A fucking statue that Pedro found too expensive to be build.
But since the end of Paraguay war the plotting intensified and culminated in the siege of the parliament and senate in 1889. They didn't intended to take down the monarchy, just to force a change in the appointed cabinet.
Deodoro, who did the siege, wanted to be Minister of War and Defense but without much communication they lied to him and told that a guy who had an affair with one of his lovers was going to be appointed.
In resume: Deodoro formation in the army was financed by the Emperor and they almost made him talk to the Emperor but he refused: He was going to cry because he liked Pedro II a lot and the plot would the fucked up.
So they sent another guy and that's it.
Jayden Jones
“A falta de justiça, Srs. Senadores, é o grande mal da nossa terra, o mal dos males, a origem de todas as nossas infelicidades, a fonte de todo nosso descrédito, é a miséria suprema desta pobre nação. De tanto ver triunfar as nulidades, de tanto ver prosperar a desonra, de tanto ver crescer a injustiça, de tanto ver agigantarem-se os poderes nas mãos dos maus, o homem chega a desanimar da virtude, a rir-se da honra, a ter vergonha de ser honesto. Essa foi a obra da República nos últimos anos. No outro regime [a Monarquia], o homem que tinha certa nódoa[desonra] em sua vida era um homem perdido para todo o sempre: as carreiras políticas lhe estavam fechadas. Havia uma sentinela vigilante [Pedro II], de cuja severidade todos se temiam e que, acesa no alto, guardava a redondeza, como um farol que não se apaga, em proveito da honra, da justiça e da moralidade.”
Evan Kelly
But seriously guys: who are you voting for next year?
Lincoln Kelly
this was the guy that did most part of the plotting against the Based Emperor
Christian Miller
Seriously? No idea
If I vote Bolsonaro, we end with a populist betraying everyone and killing the right-wing wave because "we elected someone n shiet now let's sit on the sofa again"
If I vote Ciro, we have a nationalist who is corrupt, has good knowledge of internal pollies and can do something.
+ The right-wing wave would skyrocket because "FUCK, ANOTHER SOCIE"
Samuel Watson
bump
Michael Carter
We
well, we just spent R$ 246.612.801,00 in corruption we can buy it at least
Matthew Ramirez
Vote for NOVO, you faggets
It's fucking obvious
Colton Gomez
I think I will vote for NOVO, they have some nice ideas and will shrink the state
and I can also open my architecture office faster with their proposed regulations
Ian Cook
Ryder Phillips
I hate delivery relinquish power to jews but Bolsonaro is the only oposition to this middleleft stablishment. All I ask is Enéas back.
Brandon Jackson
But Ciro is not a jewish pawn, is an usual northeast center-east oligarchies pawn.
And has almost the same ideas, plus voting on a right-wing candidate will kill the libertarian and other right-wing movements
we cannot let this glorious movement die
Austin Hernandez
i just voted
Kevin Garcia
Not jew but mason
Kevin Anderson
Probably Bolsonaro or Levy, but only because of a lack of decent options.
The thing about presidential elections is that the president doesn't govern by himself, you can elect a nationalist but if the lower and upper houses are filled with globalist traitors it won't matter that much.
Literally who? I'd rather get to know them first.
Will they sell our strategic companies or something? I don't really like the idea of selling them to foreigners.
>inb4 petista americanofóbico
The USA doesn't like having Russia meddling with their companies either.
Carter Jackson
Livres, Novo, Doria (as long as this fag doesnt turn out to be a fabian socialist) and to a lesser extent Bolsonaro are all valid options.
Brody Kelly
w/e about freemasonry
I was tempted to be one, actually know all the ones in Curitiba because of my dad connections.
Is very common for us in this republic to elect freemasons and people connected to local Orients and the Brazilian Orient
Carson Baker
What's Fachin's List? I don't know shit about brazilian politics.
Leo Brown
I always liked PV propouses but since I started to get redpilled about general brazilian politics, during the Mensalão Scandal, I started to shitvote on PCO and null vole or just pay the fee
Ayden Moore
Is this another libertarian/an-cap circlejerk that will never go anywhere?
Sebastian Lopez
The list of politicians involved in the Odebrech Scandal and general involvement in Lava Jato investigated crimes
Aaron Parker
Nah I think that the ancaps are just mad right-wing liberals
as soon as we elect a right wing politician the population will shrink to >1% of ancaps
Hunter Bell
Spotted the commie faggot
Levi Edwards
Doria 2018 desu
Bentley Martinez
D O R I A L O V E R S
2 0 2 2
Lucas Sullivan
DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU
William Parker
CALL ME A COMMIE AGAIN YOU FAGGOT I DOUBLE DARE YOU
I'm just being pragmatic. Libertarianism is never going to be viable unless we balkanize, especially in a country where you have so many people literally swimming in rivers of trash and dying of hunger.
Adam Torres
bumperino memerino
James Kelly
Sociodemocrat. Lobo em pele de carneiro. Mason. Every shit i hate but there is no where to go.
Brayden Gutierrez
As I said, almost everyone with a bit of power is eaten by the spoils of being a freemason
eloquent people
small bizz owners
It's our deep state. There's no way out
Leo Ross
It's the opposite m8, libertarianism works best in big countries exactly because a random nordestino doing shit wouldn't have an effect in the country as a whole like we have now with all states going bankrupt, by giving power to the smart and productive individuals you can become a successful country even if the majority of the population is retarded.
This is also why gay shit like fascism and socialism will never work here.
Parker Moore
>le masonry is ebil didn't you see those dan brown books dude!
You misspelled jews you faggot
Evan Baker
Just hug me. Im scared.
Landon Mitchell
Novo is quite a pragmatic libertarian party, m8.
You should read more about them.
Ryan Hill
They are almost the same thing but work in the local level.
I'm going to be initiated next year, just to keep my father and grandfather tradition.
When I say that "X is part of our deep state" I don't misspell, jews are just a small part of it
Brody Price
>For the Empire!
Sounds better than "for the republic", tbqh.
Charles Nelson
Bolsonaro, if doria gives it a go Ill vote for him, but I think if he and Bolsonaro try at the same time a lot of the votes will be split and another commie might take it.
please god give us a break
Andrew Morris
the hymn is better than the "muh nature hymn"
Jose Gutierrez
Then why did you fuck everything up, you fucking faggot!
Camden Peterson
I love just how simplistic you think a nation's economic problems are.
We are an underdeveloped secondary economy, we don't have what it takes to just say fuck and let the free market run wild. That's not how it works and any libertarian economist will tell you that.
Brazil has to be eased into libertarian policies, and that could take 20 or 30 years. You can't just decide one day that DUDE FREE MARKET LMAO is best for Brazil.
Gabriel Bailey
hte positivismus will work!
eternaly revise history so we are right
our republic is like a short-life communism
30 to 30 years we do a coup and then start it over again!
Lucas White
Brazilian Empire > Republic
RESTORE IT NOW, UNITE MONARCHIST ANONS
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Robert Turner
Redpill me on Flávio Rocha, fellas.
Rumour has it that he's gonna run for presidency for Partido Novo
Evan Jackson
>liberdades individuais com responsabilidade
>com responsabilidade
Dropped.
Isaac Miller
liberty isn't free n shiet
Kayden Mitchell
But then our retarded system collapses but since it wasn't a real republic we try again but our retarded system collapses but since it wasn't a real republic we try again but then our retarded system collapses.
Nathan Jackson
PAZ FILHOS DA PUTA
Brandon Sullivan
DORIA 2018 YAY
Grayson Ortiz
NO PEACE UNTIL OUR GLORIOUS EMPIRE IS REESTABLISHED AND THE REPUBLICAN ELITES ARE KILLED
Henry Brooks
Why do you think that our economy is underdeveloped?
It's exactly because Brazil has one of the most unfree economies in the world, it's impossible to modernize here because the government has an iron grip in the economy and you will get swamped by regulations and bureaucracy every fucking where.
The staples of Brazilian economy are nothing but simple commodities because that's what the government specialized in and they have no incentive to change that, this country is designed to perpetuate its monopoly and it will stay like that for centuries unless someone decides to change it.
Of course libertarianism doesn't come with its own share of problems but pretty much any rich country today got where they are now thanks to it, even countries like Sweden for example which are often erroneously called socialist.
In the real world state control simply doesn't work and this country is proof of that.
Gavin King
Ex-PL
PL became PR
PR is a 15+/3- grade party
Therefore he is bretty good.
Lincoln Gonzalez
I wish saying ORDEM E PROGRESSO wasnt so fucking ironic, its a good guide desu
Asher Peterson
I prefer INDEPENDENCE OR DEATH
Aiden Collins
Literally a meme party with meme people that follow a meme ideology that never was and will never be implemented or work.
Michael Clark
>a meme ideology that never was and will never be implemented
Oh how ignorant you are.
Read up on Laissez-Faire and European libertarianism is general, all rich countries are rich today thanks to this "meme ideology".
Xavier Hernandez
b-but hte meme magic n shiet
David Powell
NOVO's proposals are actually pretty much standard fare in any first world country, you are probably unaware of just just utterly oppressive our government is when it comes to economy, it's literally (literally) one of the worst places in the world to run a business.
Eli Sullivan
No Pedro, there isn't a single country on Earth that follows that bullshit.
Granted the economical policies are great but that's as far as most will go.
And keep in mind that there is no muh freedom or muh peace with niggers around.
Jose Anderson
Follows what bullshit exactly?
Free market? Yep.
Low bureaucracy? Yep.
Individual rights? Yep.
Low state control? Yep, all of these are typical in any decent country.
Samuel Morgan
bump
Grayson Sanchez
>Low state control?
You got fucking memed. The only thing they don't control too much is the economy and even something as economically lax as the EU requires a ton of control.
Hell, they even have thought policing over there, just like how we have it here.
Liam Howard
>Ciro Gomes
Are you fucking kidding me!? that red bastard changes his speech more than he changes his socks, he's a socialist that wants to look good
>Nationalist
If you want another corrupt piece of shit that will steal a lot and spend your money with assistentialism and africans government, while praising a giant state that pushes immortal values down our throats, go ahead!
John Cox
I'm obviously talking about economic control specifically, their crime policing is far superior to ours too even though some euro countries go a bit too far with the social control.
Cameron Nelson
If we elect a right-wingy
will you keep educating yourself? Will you be militant/conscious like you are today?
Bentley Hill
Based Novo bro
We will inherit this country one day
Jason Garcia
Then like I said, it's a meme ideology that is not applied anywhere in the world. Good economical policies but that is it, nobody goes beyond this.
Asher Gonzalez
Doesn't matter if you don't like the guy, the acceptable answer is Bolsonaro. The others are literally cancer.
Oh, that if Doria does not run for presidency, otherwise the only acceptable option is Bolsonaro.
James Harris
What political and economic system you propose then, m80 m8?
Kayden Thompson
What do you mean? NOVO doesn't advocate for less cops or anything.
You are confusing libertarianism with anarcho-capitalism, they are completely different beasts and you have a pretty distorted view of what NOVO is about, actually reading up about stuff before spouting ignorant opinions is generally a good idea.
Bentley Kelly
WTF are you talking about??
I'm not a militant, I don't trust any politician right now, I kinda like Farage in the UK but that's it, even Trump I never trusted him.
Gavin Morgan
A adaptable state that doesn't follow ideologies and only focus on the situation.
When it needs to grow, it grows. When it need to shrink it shrinks.
You can do it via regulations to the state, easy to be fair but here we need blood to be spilled first.
Samuel Baker
I'm not proposing anything. Brazil is too far gone genetically, socially, historically and culturally.
Take the blackpill and just live your life in peace.
Take your own advice before pulling a strawman like that.
Daniel Reyes
>militant/conscious
basically politically active, no need to be a partisan but just to know and be interested in polly/ticks/, in a international or national level
without the years of socialism in Brazil the right would never woke
Blake Sanchez
A purely pragmatic government?
Bro thats more utopic than communism or ancap
Levi Sanders
>Ancaps and libertarians falling for Doria meme
O brasileiro tem mais é que se foder mesmo.
Samuel Brooks
Finally
been expecting this thread the whole day.
Brasiliafag here
Lincoln Rodriguez
would thee kindly redpill me on Doria? why is he a meme? he seems pretty good, although I never gave a fuck to research anything about him
Adrian Carter
Oh, you are one of the blackpill retards thinking he's being "outside the box" while having absolutely zero knowledge of politics, isentão chucklefucks like you are actually the majority of the people in this country, nothing but dead weight.
Might as well just kill yourself, it would be an improvement.
Zachary Morris
Meant to
Sorry
Samuel Sanders
japones tem cinco filhos,o primeiro é retardado.
não confie nas forças armadas,eles destruiram o nosso império.
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Daniel Hughes
fuck off,liberal countries like "europe" are now filled with SJW,rape immigrants and terrorism thanks to this shit.
we already have enough inner problems,don't add another one.
Carter Thompson
Something close to fascism/national-socialism but adapted to our reality,
It did work out economically, praised nationalism and good values.
Of course it has it's downsides but there's no perfect ideology
Isaac Allen
Oh don't mind me, I'll just enjoy my like while you idiots try to fix the unfixable. No need to get so mad bruh.
Colton Hill
>confusing economic libertarianism with social liberals
Dumbfuck
This thread is about politics, not your personal nihilism blog, now fuck off idiotic weeb.
Brayden Lopez
Some people say he's a fabian socialist.
Not sure tho, just the future can tell.
Hudson Lewis
>Bro thats more utopic than communism or ancap
Are saying that not focusing on nap stories for tards is a utopia?
This is what we need, a post-ideological government. Why would it be a utopia? May I ask
Oliver Parker
I wonder if every Novofag is as dense as you.
What do you know about the website that you're posting in? Hmm?
Isaac Perez
Tome cuidado, o cara tem feito uma boa gestão, mas ainda assim apoia medidas de manter o Estado brasileiro gordo e ineficiente, o que impede o povo brasileiros de prosperar.
O cara é do PSDB, um partido de centro-esquerda, não caia no meme de "o partido não diz nada" e não esqueça que são socialistas fabianos e chupadores de pau de comunista. Todos ali são admiradores de Fidel Castro e outros demônios.
Nolan Sullivan
How the fuck is he a fabian socialist? He is just doing his job and the only "ideological" thing he is doing is pushing hard against the Worker's Party
Connor Roberts
How do you know where he lands ideologically? He mostly does shit and doesn't really talk much.
Austin Parker
>Doesn't fall for the "party doesn't mean shit" meme
Every fucking party has a ideology, if he wasn't ok with that he wouldn't have joined that party. PLZ user
Jace Anderson
I like you, bro.
Where are you from?