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Your thread is shit.

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Only immigrants coming from other EU countries m a y be allowed to vote in comunes. Nothing else is possible.

Also your country is a poor shit and you should feel bad.

Thanks for the link germbro. Even so, if they are making 3 million € houses for the rapefugees that is bad, mkay? And kek, yes, Poortugal as many shitty stuff about it, but still no rapefugees like your Merkel Führer just drowned your germ ass on... ;) goodweekend.jpg

I find it questionable that we have the homeless still homeless but there is quite some money going into projects for them. Also it is questionable that Germany is currently lacking cheap housing. But than again 3M would not do the trick for the Germans and Germany is wasting money on way worse things. Generally I would say it is right to help the needy and considering Germany's wealth spending on refugees is sustainable.

I have no informed opinion on the sustainability of spending with refugees, although social security in all the West is in deep shit (see pension fund bubble if interested in researching that affirmation). I think it's beyond idiotic that no veto process is in place to keep the rapefugees out and only let in legit refugees. Also, Saudi Arabia should take in refugees, but they are anti-west cunts who love their pedophile Muhammad cunt prophet but are racist among each other af.

Just fucking kill yourself you retarded faggot. It's 3 million per house, not 3 million total. We are spending like 50-60 billion total per year on fucking "refugees" while our education system (school without universities) cost us 15 billion a year.... FOR THE ENTIRE FUCKING COUNTRY.

Apoligists like you should be executed. There is literally no justification for the shit that is currently going on. The future of us and our children is being wasted away to house, feed and cloth inferior genetic material that will never contribute anything relevant except feed the companies our taxes through consumption.

Yeah the pension thing is a real problem but working refugees would actually help with that problem for now. Nonetheless this bubble is going to burst sooner or later anyways. It is hard to tell allowed refugees and those that would have to go back apart when they do not own any identification. Now it is easy to just keep them out if they do not have. The right thing to do is carefully balance the decision as the possibility of honestly loosing your ID is real and some laws are also old and nonsense. So you have to see if it is sustainable to let illegal refugees in just to also get the true ones. I frankly can't decide on that one as my work with illegal refugees has prooven to me that they too deserve stay in Germany but at the same time I can not ignore those that are literal rapefugees.

My fault I stopped reading the article because it was clearly not well researched and not reliable. When I quick searched for "Häuser für Flüchtlinge" and "Ausgaben Flüchtlinge" I could not confirm any of your claims. See the link below you got some facts twisted. I won't bother looking up the costs for schools as I'd agree that more money has to be spend on education. Some schools are literally falling apart. Yet you have to see that refugees are a more immediate problem that has to be solved one way or another and thus the current course spends quite some money on them. And please remember that we will need many people to work 'bad' lower wage jobs as the Germans do not want to do that anymore. Basically we are investing in cheap labour.

zeit.de/wirtschaft/2016-02/fluechtlinge-haushalt-kosten-studie-iw

>And please remember that we will need many people to work 'bad' lower wage jobs as the Germans do not want to do that anymore. Basically we are investing in cheap labour.

This is a fucking retarded meme, why are you still repeating that? Linking (((Zeit))) should tell me enough .... These refugees don't gete jobs because there are none for them. The only jobs created so far, are government paid 1 Euro jobs so that they have something to do. Around 95% of the jobs taken up by refugees (50k of around 1.5 million) are just that, 1 euro jobs paid by the government.

>Automatization setting in by 2030
>Most studies show they expect around half of all jobs will be done by robots, especially low education jobs (even the leftist media like Zeit reports on that)
>import millions of low education workers 5 years before the automatization boom will be set in motion because they allegedly do the jobs nobody wants
>all statistics from the past show that with people like these, you can expect 10% of them to have a job after 5 years (usually stats from Sweden and Germany).

SOMETHING LITERALLY DOESNT ADD UP HERE, WHY DO PEOPLE STILL REPEAD THIS RETARDED PROPAGANDA

I was linking Zeit not for the sake of their propaganda but for the facts which they indeed got right. Reading between the lines is vital and I'd expect you to be able to do that.

Also, while I didn't make it very clear, I was not being serios about the cheap labour. I know that automatization is coming and I know that only very few of these people will work like that if there was no automatization.

Unless there is anything important to be said I'd say we rest this thread for it wasn't good in the beginning and you don't seem to be interested in objective, self reflective discussion.

Safety of native citizens should come first. It makes 0 sense that refugees would have to come to the West for safety, many muslim countries around Syria could take them in and the West could build infrastructure there to help and help in teh form of foreign aid, but rapefugees are being used as a weapon of islamisation of the West (Hegira, war by migration, like fascist pedo warlord Muhammad did with Mecca, and the Quran describes). Still, cunt Merkel wanted to clean her image after the austerity fiasco in EU (Greece had ppl committing suicide in front of the parliament because of Troika austerity measures) so she opened the borders like that. Also, legit refugees are getting raped, robbed and sold for sex and organ trafficking on the way to the West, as well as making cash to the criminals who smuggle them into the West. Refugees should be helped, and they should stay in the middle east, putting them in the West is to support criminals who make money out of their smuggling, and it's supporting their rape robbery and organ trafficking by the unlegit rapefugees who are smuggled along with them to the West.

>first sentence is bullshit already

You go on fellating Mr Armstrong.

I do not really see how safety of native citizens is at danger. It was to be expected that there will be terrorist attacks and not letting them in wouldn't have done the trick either. The few accounts of rape are sad indeed but seeing them in contrast you will realise they are minor and quite frankly just being pushed by the media as white on black crime is being pushed in the US.

Letting them stay near their homes does indeed sound good but is very difficult. Several things come into account here. Helping them outside of Germany is not only much more expensive but also more difficult. In the middle east they are still at greater risk. And lastly without tons of effort you can't even keep them there or stop them from coming. These combined might actually, and I must say I don't know, be more expensive than actually just helping them in Germany.

That traficking supports criminals is clear but as I said stopping them from traficking is not that easy though doable. They'd be raped and killed and sold anyways if you'd keep them in the middle east and helped them there.

>armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/germany/germany-building-free-housing-for-refugees-worth-3-million/

Read that shit germbro. They want to change the way the law works so that they can get dat rapefugee vote.

The article is not reliable just saying. It's unconstitutional what it suggests.

>I'd say we rest this thread for it wasn't good in the beginning and you don't seem to be interested in objective, self reflective discussion.

Eat shit you fucking waste of space. I was actually the only one presenting arguments while you might give on one retarded link where one might have to "read between the lines" and once you don't get the answer you like, I'm allegedly not interested in a discussion.

I'm still waiting for you to present any relevant arguments at all because even the Zeit article is claiming useless shit like 50% of refugees will have a job after 5 years.... anyone who believes that is braindead and thinks some magic will happen even after past studies showed something like this is unrealistic.

It has nothing to do with refugees you mongrel, nor with our federal or even state elections. That article is retarded.

Terrorism is easily prevented if you veto the rapefugees and refugees properly, fortify and defend the borders and use all the tools the information agencies have/honeypot native radicalization sites, as well as surveil mosques (or just ban them), don't be that retarded pls, saying terrorism is unavoidable makes you sound like a retard isis apologist. See Poland and Hungary, no islamic terrorism there, they are managing the situation the right way. I disagree with you that it would be more expensive to help them nearer their home country Syria, if they will not find jobs here they would be permanently dependent on the social system that is about to go to shit, so their presence in the West makes no sense. You just seem to want to push the agenda for open borders, therefor I think you are retarded in that aspect.

>inferior genetic material
Yeah I wish we could get rid of people like you, too.

UPPSY germbro, the article I wanted to link was this one: welt.de/politik/deutschland/article162183536/Anhaenger-von-SPD-und-Gruenen-wollen-Auslaender-mitwaehlen-lassen.html

^^^See post above pls, I linked the wrong article.

I think it's cute and pretty altruistic
good job Germany

What I was talking about in the Zeit article where the first three paragraphs which showed the numbers you already said but in another correlation that made them not only more reasonable but also true. The arguments you presented were lacking reason and often ad hominem or fallacia non causae ut causae. Also I did not claim you were not interested in a discussion but claimed you were not capabable of providing objective logical discussion.

My arguments are shown above and I point out when I am not sure or don't know. If you find flaws in them I am happy to discuss them and change my opinion and I am sure that there are many.

>politicians have ideas
>some even silly ideas
>some wishful ideas
>STOP THE PRESS

On a scale of 1 to Portugese, how retarded are you, given that being Portugese is the upper end of the retardation scale?

Their ideas don't fly, not only because it would be unconstitutional. Plus, it's still about communal elections which are the most boring shit ever, like are we going to build this new bicycle lane here or there?

Well this changes things of course. It seems to be a step towards lessening the meaning of origin of folks which can be seen as good of course. After all it does make some sense to let people that live at a certain be able to also vote there. It's just very locally keep that in mind. I wouldn't support it though as it offers in my opinion too many dangers. Good idea, wrong time. The amount of change communes can offer threw vote is limited though and I'd be interested in seeing what exactly they want to achieve threw letting non-europeans vote. After all EU-citizens are allowed to vote in their communes since 1992.

>Yeah the pension thing is a real problem but working refugees would actually help with that problem for now.

yea pensioners make easy target for brown people, no one will be living past 55 with the death cult you guys are importing

Literally says
>you don't seem to be interested in objective, self reflective discussion.
Now you say
>I did not claim you were not interested in a discussion but claimed you were not capabable of providing objective logical discussion.
.........

>The arguments you presented were lacking reason
Please point out which ones because the stuff I write is partly shown as correct by the Zeit article while the rest is based on studies I won't invest the time now to look it up. Literally nothing I wrote lacks any kind of reason. If so, point out which ones.

>My arguments are shown above
Which arguments? You seem to agree with me on like 80% of the stuff and where are the other arguments you are talking about?

>Costs of refugee spending
>automatization
>Zeit propaganda
>refugee employment

All points you agree on.

>I was actually the only one presenting arguments
You're just spouting claims you moron.

>Literally nothing I wrote lacks any kind of reason.

Yeah it does, you come off as a ranting retard which you likely are.

Also, what's with your weird fetish about the Zeit being propaganda? You dumb pleb.

>Moves in on discussion he is not part of.
>Doesn't bring anything to the table in terms of content.

Remove yourself, useless pest.

>he is not part of.
Oh god, get with the times you mongrel, this is a basket weaving board and I chime in when I well damn please to chime in.

He is as much part this discussion as you are not.

Thanks for the reply. Doesn't mean that it won't happen, it's the willingness to try and set a precedent that should worry you (unless you're a mudslime leeching of the germbros).

>it's the willingness to try and set a precedent that should worry you
Personally I don't see anything wrong with letting people who are eligible to (which is the restriction here, something of having lived in the commune for 10 years or so) to participate in local politics more.

But I don't expect an utter moron like yourself who is frothing at the mouth to understand this.

Leftypol hugging each other, how cute.

>Also, what's with your weird fetish about the Zeit being propaganda? You dumb pleb.

You mongrel, this was brought up by your shill partner in >I was linking Zeit not for the sake of their propaganda

>Oh god, get with the times
>it the current year

Pathetic

I've met my French fiancé with half Portuguese daughter in Germany. Is this Germany effect?

Fucking Germans be nigged.

>Defending the forced cuckoldry of your Nation by hamsterwheeling the actions of it's traitorous gov
Kys

Kek. U mad germbro?

How boring you are.

We Swamp Gaints will take your german women if they arent getting blackend already.

Nah just bored with you retardation.

>Working refugees
Hello there "tripping g on them bluepilled"NORMIEfaggot, may I politely ask what the fuck have you lost on the underground Nazi hacker forum known as 4chins?

Says the one who literally contributed nothing to the thread at all other than shitposting against other posts...

Word germbro.

Woah, where do you actually think you are, some sane corner of the internet or something?

Help us please dont let us go as deep as sweden

>more anti-German whining

Fix your country first before calling out anyone else.

>neighbour was somehow forced to train fugees
>they had to write down what they want to become
>"Ingenöhr"

Lel.

With all those engineers who don't even have an elementary school education, we are certainly going to establish a german colony on Mars soon.

Funniest thing is, you can't throw a stone without hitting an engineer of any specialisation you can even think of in the head. Why we need completely uneducated niggers to fill this """"gap""" is absolutely beyond me.

Germany.
Pls uncuck yourself.
Pls save Europe.

Why u mad brah? I believe we can all live in peace and in one piece if we deal with this clusterfuck of a situation and talk about shit with each other about the shit going down. Here, have a nice song to cheer you up brah:
youtube.com/watch?v=sZJDYlxkM-c
Ur welcome!

Germany belongs to the Germans. We must remove fucking nonwhites from Europe

...

pls germany

make europe great again

enough of this eternal state of cuckoldry

kek

I'd like to add a little anecdote: Companys around here (NRW) are employing refugees and getting paid by the government to do so.

kek, such cuckery lvl, tax payers pay for their houses and shit, they get your jobs and your taxes even pay for their pay check. If they are smart they will open businesses and employ even more tax payer payed rapefugees, thus taking over the whole country. Ppl will eventualy go nuts and beserk, cuz social state will have to up the taxes more and more to keep the rapefugee state sposored dick sucking going and it will still end with the social funds going bust, with natives sucked dry and their families raped and robbed. feelsbad.gif, and the resulting civil war will not be pretty.

>t. blockheaded Russian

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Smart enough to understand that society of inferior genetics and multiple races can't work

>t. envious poor country retard
If only your country had all those jobs and money to go around huh

>Smart
>Russian

Haha, good one and quite ironic to talk about genetic inferiority, Igor.

Inbreaded Muslims are though, niggers are even worse

why the fuck would refugees be in your country for 5 years

Yeah if you just think about the real costs of this whole "refugee crisis" it will blow up in our faces and it won't be pretty. We're already now on the 2nd place (i think) in taxation guess we'll reach the top within the next years cause our government won't stop taking in refugees.

Was it a racial comment? Glad you admit genetic inferiority is a thing and racial difference exist. Now I advise you pay a visit to a psychiatrist, since you a clearly a self contradicting schizophrenic

kek, you sound very frustrated. Wanna e-hug germbro?

Well thanks to your country the whole region went to shit and people don't feel like going home to a war zone.

>t. retarded gopnik

top kek ruski бpaт

t. mentally ill genetic trash

That I can agree with, burger administration destabilizing the middle east was dumb af. None the less, countries near Syria should be taking the refugees on, but they prefer to use this clusterfuck to try and turn the whole West muslim by using legit refugees and pos rapefugees as a biological weapon. goodluckwiththat.jpeg

I think he is just adjusting to deal with cognitive dissonance, the genetic inferiority trolling bantz got to him. This clusterfuck of a situation makes no sense at all if we don't take into account that Merkel isn't trying to help anyone but her public image, and ppl are being manipulated to feel bad for all kinds of ppl they shouldn't feel bad about (rapefugees), and throwing all logic out the window. Legit refugees must stay on the fucking middle east (Israel should take some for example, why don't they? Why do they send ppl like Barbara Spectre to the West to advocate for open borders when (((they))) won't take none? Fuck that shit.). Freelink: youtube.com/watch?v=MFE0qAiofMQ

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Lerner_Spectre -> this cunt should get into a oven and get a nice tan

>multiple races can't work
This
Eat shit, cuck. You have to go back nigerian-kurdish subhuman. Culture is a product of Race. The reason multiethnic state gets a bad rep is because behaviour and cultural norms are directly related to Race. Whether we like it or not we can take the gook/coon out of the jungle but can't take the jungle out of the gook/coon.

You can also look into the "bowling alone" study and it's numerous off shoots that show multiracialism indeed dissolves community and leads to overall unhappiness and isolation of the individual. In group preference cannot be weeded out, and as a result you will see what the GruneCDUSPDLinke are already working on which is "identity politics".

It's a mess and not as simple as "everyone has German values", the same way not everyone can be British, Israeli, German, Latvian or Brahmin Gujurati.

I think the only proper solution to this problem is racial system of citizenship. Otherwise we will repeat this madness all over again

Yes, this is true. Multiculturalism works for individuals but not for nations, I don't mind having ppl from other races here in Poortugal if they respect the culture and shit, problem comes when they become too many, shit always starts getting fucked up, history confirms this everywhere. And I do believe all Western countries would be better off if they banned islam, the Quran is a war manual, nothing more, fascist af. Western countries should emulate Israel, closed borders, obligatory military instruction for boys and girls, extreme vetoing. I have nothing against jews, but when they start with the open borders for the West shit, oven them.

>don't mind having ppl from other races here in Poortugal if they respect the culture and shit
Even the Jew you reply to explains that culture and race are the same thing. That being said nonwhites should be kicked out

Yep. It doesn't mean one shouldn't be able to travel to a foreign country or even work there, but vetoing before entereing and deportation at first criminal activity should be happening everywhere. Dual citizenship should also be possible, but following a sane process, but of course crooked politicians use migrants/refugees/rapefugees as bought votes cuz most don't give a shit, they just want to be elected and get fat on the lifetime pensions for the time they "serve" their countries. Here in Poortugal we have a legislation which makes no sense regarding economic migrants, cuz in cases where they are working and paying taxes, because of dumb shit they lose their status as legal migrat and so then of course they get ass raped by employers who use the newly acquired illegal status of the migrant to exploit it, and that shit makes 0 sense. There is a lot to be done all over the place, but putting refugees and rapefugees in the West is NOT it at all.

Yes, in the macro level, but race =/= culture in the micro level (individuals). It's like this, if I as an individual go to Japan or Russia and I learn and respect your culture, my race is a non-factor, but if 500.000 Poortuguese go all to the same place, of course that shit is going to change shit. чтo вы дyмaeтe?

I don't think that there should be any nonwhite immigration at all. It's a slippery slope