Can you still be a Christian and believe that man came from ape?

Can you still be a Christian and believe that man came from ape?

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Yes

Yes its something called faith.

Why?

The power of cognitive dissonance

Mmmm, why thoughts exactly

*my

yes

if evolution was real we'd know about it by now, but top scholars have poured over the bible and found nothing there,
I mean, do you really think we all used to be monkey's in the jungle? then how come there's still loads of monkeys in
the jungle and they dont keep turning into people? face it, evolution is just a liberal trick designed by the jew to
corrupt our soft vulnerable children and make them turn away from good god almighty

>can't tell if bait or retarded

God took the ape and through divine intervention guided it on an evolutionary path that made its decendents resemble his own image

Yes isn't a fucking answer
There are still monkeys in the jungle because they took a different evolutionary path.

Honestly I just can't believe in a god. I follow christian values and I like the teachings of christ, but I don't believe in a higher power. I still go to church though.

if you arent joking you are literally retarded, we have tracked certain animals evolution over the last few hundred years

You can be a Christian and believe that people believe man came from apes.

Idk

But it would make sense

That means The Epoch of the Apes, which was 55 million years ago, is the true date that mankind started.

I was thinking that too. He must have been impressed with apes and decided to bless them with a consciousness and placed them in the garden of eden.

I used to go to church as a kid but dont anymore, i cant say for sure there is no god but i dont believe in the christian god as the bible tells. i do like the morals of Christianity though, it keeps people from getting too degenerate.

who's we? jewish "scientists"? or have you done it yourself?

HERETICS

>t. swedecuck

Bare minimum to be Christian = Mere Christianity = Foundations of Christianity =

Believe in God
Believe Jesus is the the son of God
Believe Jesus Rose from the dead for our salvation

Everything is up for debate

It is a problem for some christians. The story of the crucifix of Jesus relies on original sin. Original sin relies on the story of Adam and Eve. We know the story of adam and eve didn't happen so Christianity collapsess.

But y'know, faith and metaphors

Everything else*

>implying jews would fake scientific proofs to demonstrate the genesis is a lie
confirmed: you're litterally, unironically a retarded

so you are retarded, there is pictures of bird species wings changing over time because they've been hit by cars. not to mention all the million dog breeds there are. you think chihuahuas have been around since the start of time?

Creationism is just a meme outside the anglosphere so yes.

> there is pictures of bird species wings changing over time because they've been hit by cars.

Chihuahuas are a result of human selection, leave those rats out of this

Of course, we are not americans.

Australians dont look like British people because Australians evolved into their own ethnicity over 400 years, that is an example of recent human evolution dumbass.

Man came from common ancestor, not apes.

im not even going to bother arguing, if you want to be blind to facts thats your problem

>taking the bible literally

At least the ones who do take the bible literally have not given up the meaning behind what they believe.

Why would jews like evolution? It basically says their theory that they are the chosen beings on earth is absolute bullshit.

Just read about it from some catholic website.
The father of genetics hereditary was literally a catholic monk.
I don't see why you would ask /pol about this when there are literally hundreds of well written and researched articles. It seems to me like you're just looking to reappraise your own world view and aren't actually trying to learn, but what do I know

i agree with you idiot, just saying chihuahuas are not a valid exhample since it's human selection and not natural

this

what you morons dont get is, that christianity like every other religion is a manual for making a society work

christianity, paganism and buddhism are high tier manuals, islam is an illiterate tier manual

the man in the heavens part is superstition

long story short - yes you can be a christian and don't denie science

> Original sin relies on the story of Adam and Eve.

The concept of sin has to exist not the concept of Adam and Eve as persons. Adam and Eve are human nature, human nature would ultimately would have always have fallen into sin. The whole point is a cynical outlook on human nature.

Their survival adaptations are actually serving them quite well. Just like man has overcome a lot of nature with their adaptations, Jew has overcome a lot of mankind with their adaptations. They have a niche and they exploit it. The only problem for them is that nature/reality does have a hierarchy that the Christian bible recognizes. Morality is built into the logic/mathematics of the universe.

>Can you still be a Christian and believe that man came from ape?

I'm an atheist and I don't believe we came from ape

That is because we still are apes

Fun Fact: It was a christian creationist who originally classified humans as apes

Pic from the Catechism

>Morality is built into the logic/mathematics of the universe.
this is no less than complete bullshit

you can believe whatever you want when it comes to christianity. you can interpret the bible anyway you want to. most christians don't even read the bible so you can just make up whatever beliefs you want.

Some young earth creationists have argued that the entire world was originally created perfect and free from death. However, if this was true, then why did God plant a Garden, and place man in it? The Scriptures are clear that the Garden was separate and distinct from the rest of the world. We have no reason to suspect that there was no death outside of the Garden.

Also, nowhere does the Bible claim that there was no animal death before sin…it is inferred from the Genesis text and this verse, Romans 5:12, which states,


"Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned."

When Adam sinned, he did indeed introduce physical death (through his expulsion from paradise) for humanity. However, this verse has nothing to do with animal death prior to sin.

no its bullshit, if we came from monkeys than why are monkeys still around?

we came from common anchestor, not from monkeys
>american education

I don't read the bible, I just watch steven anderson every now and then lol

we didn't come from monkeys, monkeys and apes diverged and evolved along side each other

Either way the arguement is faulty.
Why are they still around? Idk why are your parents still around, or grandparents?

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I haven't met a single Christian in my country who doesn't believe in evolution.

Look at Calhoun's mouse experiment if you don't believe me. Spirituality is interwoven to our DNA, and the only way for that to be possible is for the mechanical logical underpinnings of the universe to encode this information. There is good and evil in this universe. You can choose to marginalize or this fact, but then you have reduced the scope of your reality to something less than what your existence is.

Humans and great apes came from a specific kind of old world monkey that no longer exists anymore. That monkey most likely existed in tropical Asia since the most primitive apes the gibbons are found there.

Interesting. Yeah creationists are fucking retarded, they need to read this

oldearth.org/old.htm

>Humans and great ape

Same thing

>pecific kind of old world monkey

technically not a monkey, anymore than theropod dinosaurs are birds even though they are sometimes called old world birds

>That monkey most likely existed in tropical Africa

FTFY

>since the most primitive apes the gibbons are found there

There is this little thing called migration

>To think, we could have been Khajiits

Yes.

The official stance of the Chatolic church is that Evolution happened but it's influenced by the designs of God.

And of course the creation story about humans is taken as metaphore of humans rejecting the guidance of God by commiting the first sin.

Old World monkey are 50 million years old so yes it was a monkey.

This more or less. Right now science and religion address very different matters.

This too. I swear this is only a problem in 'murrica.

what does the mice experiment has to do with morality? it basically show how a social structure collapse when the population is too high and all social roles are filled

user you are the heretic.
The Chatolic church views evolution as fact.
Only isolated heretics like Swedecucks who needed to be told not to eat their fellow Christians are still rejecting the idea.

>The official stance of the Chatolic church is that Evolution happened but it's influenced by the designs of God.

As an atheist I have no problem with this, to me its no different than believing human evolution was guided by aliens, or leprechauns or something.

You want to believe that, knock yourself out. Just so long as it stays out of the science classroom

Technically, we didn't evolve from apes. Humans and Primates are of the same branch of the evolution tree but we go our separate ways from there.

It shows what happens when emotional well-being of the individual and the group is no longer dependent on the environment for reinforcing its morality.

I have good news for you user.
You are an Agnostic.

I agree that only things that can be empirically proven should be taught in school.

I never came from ape. Me no had ape handjob b4.

U had ape buttsecks OP?

Humans are a type of ape (which in turn is a type of primate).

I could into the specifics of morphology and genetics to explain why the 'old world monkey' species from which what people today call monkeys and apes diverged from wasn't technically a monkey but I can't be arsed to put into that much effort. You want to call it a monkey, knock yourself out. Its more semantics than anything for us both.

no u

wrong. it shows that a society can't survive when all social roles are filled due to overpopulation
>american comprehension

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en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hominidae

>You are an Agnostic.

yes, I'm also an atheist. They aren't mutually exclusive you know.

You live in Australia.

You can see a branch of Hominids living right beside you.

Because the idea that science and religion are incompatible is modern. It was never even an issue in the past. You're the one implying they're at odds, you tell us why.

>implying harems, the beautiful ones, criminality etc. are social roles

You're the one with your brain in a cage.

Pic related: social role of the unevolved

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>They aren't mutually exclusive you know.
yes they are.
Agnosticism is the philosophical view that the existence of God or the supernatural are unknown and unknowable.
Atheism is, in the broadest sense, the absence of belief in the existence of deities.

>we can't know if god exhist or not so who cares? (agnosticism)
>god doesn't exist (atheism)
pick one

There's a difference.

Atheism is outright denial of any ''Gods'' and other supernatural stuff existing.

Agnostics just say ''Well God might or might not exist. But until it can be prooven that he/it/she does exist i won't care about it instead of spregging out.''

There's a subtle difference.

I myself am also Agnostic but was raised Chatolic so i abide by the local traditions of going to church and so on.

BTW Happy Easter.

Because people are taught that because natural selection and mutations are real, speciation and macroevolution are therefore also real despite not being proven.
People always link to the berkeley study of fruit flies via allopatric speciation, but the study is moot because the flies are still perfectly capable of reproducing with each other and have fertile offspring; therefore, the same species, so no speciation occurred.
Currently they are looking at iguanas that drifted ashore into another island, a few decades ago, but there haven't been any reported changes.

>harems, the beautiful ones, criminality
those were the results of social roles filled, not social roles themselves
>american comprehension

no I didn't. I just want to know how apemen like neanderthals fit into all of this

Bible never specifically states that evolution is impossible, it could have been that some apes evolved into humans after the events of genesis, or that the events of genies aren't described in full detail. What evolution fails to provide is an actual answer to where life came from. Even if a microorganism evolved into what workd eventually become humans, something would have needed to create the first thing. It should be mentioned that Charles Darwin was a christain his whole life. Aka the guys who actually discovered evolution.

Being a protestant, I believe I've come to the conclusion that we have no idea what creation actually looked like to humans. How long is God's day? What does God speaking it into existence look like to us?

If you're an orthodox christian, you can believe in both, 'cause Bible is not scientific truth but metaphors. In case you're a protestant, you're a retard sorry dude

>implying free food and shelter is a social role and not an environmental factor

Post more.

>not the concept of Adam and Eve as persons. Adam and Eve are human nature
Nice meme, but when you look at the lineage in chapter 3 of Luke, Adam is included.

it makes you feel hot and fuzzy inside doesn't it boi

so now you're saying the experiment is pointless because the hypothesis can't be realized in the real world? are you retarded?

Hi guys
Have we a study to determine which of the human sub races has the most evolved from sapiens sapiens ?
Seems obvious that it's the nordic swedish archetype but who knows ?

It could be nigerian, japanese or an other type of white race.

Thnx

Agnostic is a position about knowledge, atheist is a belief position. Knowledge is a subset of belief. I can not believe in something because I don't know. Ergo, agnostic atheist.

Yes but it also states the fact thet Kain was a motherfucker.

The last two nights I've dreamt of large apes

what does it mean?

>atheists posting picture of a woman that they could never get in real life(not even a real women lol) and then masturabting to another man having sex with her(aka porn)
Typical cuck. Go watch some blacked instead sodomite.

Just type chirstchan rule 34 into bing with safe filter off. That was the best one I could find

Both, I think

>muh adam and eve are persons

>but they are not the concept of persons. the bible is metaphorical

>but muh adam and eve are persons in another part of the metaphorical message too!!

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