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What's the problem with forming a voluntary collectivist society?

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>What's the problem with forming a voluntary collectivist society?

quiet Plato

Hah hah hah fuck roads! What a jovial image, fellow satirist.

There is literally nothing wrong with wanting your race to exist in a homeland of its own

Why can't we be friends?

this is now a memball thread.

>private borders

remove them all

No problem per se. The problem only starts when the collectivist try to force you into their little shitty collectivist society.

>kike posts divide and conquer
how surprising

Half of these posts are just memes and the other is (((they))) trying to divide us. We got along for years now and it won't change.

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Yeah I'm aware, but a bunch of newfags might think its for serious

>Free immigration (free movement of people) is regarded as one of the core concepts of libertarian theory and philosophy.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_perspectives_on_immigration

LUL

>Be NatSoc
>accept AnCap state
>create a NatSoc micro-nation within the AnCap state
>volunteers flock to my micro-nation in search of a higher purpose and in order to escape the void of materialist individualism
>we pretend to be peaceful and the NAP protects us from AnCap memesters
>when the time is ripe, we blitzkrieg the AnCap cucks and establish NatSoc by force
>the few individualist militants who manage to organize are quickly crushed by the strength of the United NatSoc Faction, which has secretly prepared for this Day of Reckoning for decades
AnCucks are bound by the NAP to let this happen. The fate of the AnCap is to be conquered by a more ruthless ideology that doesn't care about the NAP and has the numbers/strength to back up their own form of governance.

Your right, there is no system better than having no system.

Because you want to regulate the economy and what is deemed to be best for people's lives.

I do not want the state to tell me what is best for me.

None as long as it's voluntary. That said it might be hard to be competitive

>Your right, there is no system better than having no system.
* You're

You may have that opinion, but others don't. What will you do when an overwhelming force of others simply forces you to adopt their own system?

So you need something like National Socialism to give your life meaning.

What a fucking faggot.

>collectivism
Is good
>Economic ignorance
If you ignore the fact that they made the weakest, poorest, and most degenerate country in the world the most strongest, richest, purest, and scientifically advanced country in the world in about 6 years. Ever heard of the economic merical?
>Authoritarian welfare state
Is good when done right, which the NSDAP did do right
>Taxes
Quit being a nigger and pay your taxes
>Totalitarianism
Is good
>Hiding your power level in public
I don't
>Roads
Le meme

more divide and conqueror

I have caught up with this meme.
Fug

>So you need something like National Socialism to give your life meaning.
Yeah. And AnCucks can't do anything about their impending doom.

AnCap is pre-destined to be replaced.

I think you misunderstand me, If you want to make a libertarian society I have no problem with that, but I think it is a flawed system.

I just don't want to see any infighting between enemies that have a common enemy

Between ideologies*

>NatSoc
>Collectivism

>private borders
I'm gonna build my own country around your house and to leave you'll have to pay a super large visitors tax
>AnCap memes
I'll give you that
>Freedom
Overrated
>Capitalism
(((Capitalism)))
>Non agression
Gay
>Individualism
Gay
>Physical removal
Implying we don't have that
>Economic mastery
Lolno

>The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

LOL NO! Why would I join up with a Nasoc, you guys are literally a few tiers below a full blown Maoist or Stalinist. It would be setting my self up to fail because your regime would spread and force people who fitted your ethnostate's idea of an ideal human to become assimilated.

There is literally nothing wrong with immigration as long as the worthless immigrants die in the streets

You won't be able to buy a house without also buying road access

Nah he just BTFOd your Ancuck ideology

AnCap is what existed before governments formed which shows monopolies DO form in an unregulated market which BTFOs your babby tier economic theory too

>I'll gladly bend over and take zionism up the ass if it means I don't have to deal with you stormweenies, HAH BTFO

This is a shill

>nationalism isn't collectivist in nature
>socialism isn't collectivist in nature

yesterday i was walking down the street and had to stop on a crossing because ROADS fuck i hate roads

the final redpill is anarchy primitivism
Unabomber is right about literally everything

Anyone else reckon this invasion of ancaps with their unfunny forced Hoppe and Rothbard flag image spam is actually part of a grand divide and conquer strategy?

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>millenials
>sjws
>Not individualist in nature

gotcha

The Unabomber admitted that there is no escape from technology unless you abolish all of it.

All it takes is one clever monkey to re-invent a crossbow, abuse this weapon to gain dominance over less clever monkeys, and the process would start again.

The Unabomber had great insights and a fantastic analytic brain, but his conclusions were not really applicable. If you want to be a notech-cuck, then you shouldn't be surprised when you are overwhelmed/enslaved/killed by tech-using people, who then proceed to survive while your primitivist society and genetics simply end.

If it's voluntary there's no moral dilemma, it's just going to fail. For great examples look at early American colonies like Jamestown and Plymouth Rock.

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It's the lack of redpill threads.

Reminder to call out /leftypol/ shills

i knew schools in france are shit tier but you must be a mudslime.

Nah, it's just newfags re-discovering what oldfags had discovered back then. Politics is an individual journey accelerated by debate. The more they debate on Sup Forums, the more will go from AnCap to NatSoc. I guarantee that most AnCaps posting here used to be Libertarians à la Ron Paul. One or two years from here they will be NatSocs if they actively debate on Sup Forums and stay open minded.

>if it's voluntary there's no moral dillema

According to your specific version of "morality"

This is fair, but what can be given can be taken away. Also, Unabomber was about the industrial revolution, not living in caves.

Nazism rejected the Marxist concept of class struggle, opposed cosmopolitan internationalism, and sought to convince all parts of a new German society to subordinate their personal interests to the "common good" and to accept the priority of political interests in economic organisation.

The fuck is this if it's not collectivism retard

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism

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This violates the NAP. Die statist scum

I don't get what you're trying to say. Are you saying that it's not immoral to forcefully take from individuals to give to the collective?

Well, then we're arguing about a specific kind of technology in our technological history. My argument still applies. All it takes then is a clever monkey who realizes that burning coal generates a lot of heat, and that you can use that heat to transform it into movement, which simplifies transportation of people and resources significantly.

The comfort you gain from technology will always appeal to most people, so the technology will be adopted and used. I think the real solution is to use technology well; instill in each and every human a sense of human superiority. A sense of importance for genetic fitness. Technology must be used to complement our lives, not to take away what makes us human.


We shouldn't use medicine to keep alive useless old sacks of waste, or genetically deformed retards, or chronically mentally ill freaks. The ideal of the Nietzschean Übermensch must be the end-goal of all our actions. Technology must be humanity's servant, not its bane through replacement and degeneration.

All the money in the world can't give you tradition, culture, or identity.

What is killing western civilization right now? The fact we are missing the later.
We are in fact drowning in the former.

Zionism is litterally national socialism. I am not going to bend over for the kikes. But FYI if you are a Nasoc you have the same ideology as the Zionist.

Also, running out of arguments and calling me a shill is fucking pathetic.

Yep, it is a collective ideology. Go read Mine Kampf and the 25 points of National Socialism

Thats not at all what we are arguing. By getting rid of the state who bails out corporations when they fuck up. You make them much more liable for there own actions.

The bad people don't move out, they either violate the NAP and get shot, or die out because there is no 3rd party to support there degeneracy.

yes, there would be nothing better than seeing unironic ancaps and natsocs burned alive together while pointing and laughing

>the latter
>the former

nice strawman

So does NAP stand for Non-Aggression Protocol?

I wish this could be the case but I have seen no example of this since industrialisation, as you say people seek comfort and ease. Perhaps the only way this could be and remain the case would be in extremely tight governance and extremely principled, erudite and incorruptible rule. It's an impossible Sparta

If there's no free welfare state gibs then no lazy shitskins are going to immigrate.

Logical reasoning 101 - which you failed, you disgusting mongol subhuman.

>>when the time is ripe, we blitzkrieg the AnCap cucks and establish NatSoc by force

and you die horribly to recreational nuke grenades.

nobody is stopping you from forming your own community that values X tradition, culture, and identity except the govt.
Just look what happened at waco.

I'm going release a swine flu/ebola hybrid virus on them because no shitty state prevents me from building viable means of self defense.

Give the people too much freedom, they'll take advantage of it and become degenerates. Your country will have hippies to be exact.

Non agression principle iirc

So ancap fags explain me this

>I sign contract to do A and get paid B
>I do A
>B says its not done correctly and refuses to pay

where can I sue them?

cooperation isn't related with collectivism

Collective society is by definition not voluntary.

Non-Aggression Principle. But close enough

In a court.

>>assuming either could get accomplished by a small community.

Were playing for the grand prize. Nobody here wants their ideology to stay as a small community. It's too easy a target then.

Violation of the NAP, so nuke them

>implying pinochet wasn't authoritarian

Who is going to enforce the decision?

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What if I want to live in a libertarian society but recognize that it can never work without throwing all jews out of helicopters and deporting all the other non-whites?

We are friends. Divide and conquer is the current shill tactic. Don't let the cucks ruin us.

Violation of the NAP, kick her ass.

Violated the NAP, you shell them

>Perhaps the only way this could be and remain the case would be in extremely tight governance and extremely principled, erudite and incorruptible rule. It's an impossible Sparta
Not impossible.

National Socialism tried to create such a society. There was a reason why they adopted ruthless eugenics plans and encouraged sports programs as well as rigorous military training for their men (SS, Wehrmacht), and rigorous feminine training for their girls (BDM).

The contract must cover what happens in case of conflict.

>he doesn't have a nuke

>you wont be too tired from working

States form monopolies. States are a creation of socialist.

I think its the opposite. illogical people buy the natsoc meme. Argumentation ethics leads to logic being the focus. once that happens Natsocs have no shot. Emotion and lies are what socialist need.

This, and contracts can be adjudicated by private mediators. The owners of the contract mutually demand transparency and agree to the consequences of breaching the contract

Anyone here watch Mr. Dapperton on Youtube, he knows his shit.
youtube.com/channel/UCrcrV4J6exbyTY4gcbvL_lA

>all these """"""libertarians"""""" licking fascist and conservative boots

Statism is statism. Fuck Communists and fuck fascists.

>Collectivism
>Voluntary

>yes goy let me volunteer you to give up your hard earned money...it's voluntary!

>private borders
>refugees and muslims welcomed they just cant go into my home lol

That fucking name, has me gasping for air.

Capitalism gives you all property rights including the fundamental property right of excluding others from your property

The problem with you "nationalists" is that you tend to also be socialists who want GIBSMEDATS, the ability to plunder from others

Diametrically opposed ideologies.

>the strength of NatSoc
>couldn't invade Switzerland because a couple dozen Swiss had carbines
top fucking kek my friendo

>you know theres nothing better than ancap
Sorry I am not autistic

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