Why are Russians vastly superior in weapons production than USA?

Why are Russians vastly superior in weapons production than USA?
Assault weapons,tanks,rockets,artillery,planes,helicopters,nukes,you name it.
Reliable,high quality,deadly.

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>Reliable
>high quality
Ahahahahaha

>deadly
Yes, for the one that uses them

cheap troll.

Russian army is a bucket of rusty nails.

>no reverse gear
Trash tank

Remember that time we made a big expensive space shuttle then they copied the plans and made their own but never really used it and then their government collapsed?

Because the Russian military industrial complex is state owned and therefore efficient and doesn't massively overcharge like Lockheed and Raytheon do.

Seriously the US spent $1.5 trillion on a 5th gen jet that barely works and the Russians have spent $50 billion and achieved better results.

>pic related
>leaf

Because socialism works

i don't get how a zerg rush is the same as high technology...

>Why are Russians vastly superior in weapons production than USA?

They are not

At all

Although Russia spends a lot shilling they are

However they are crap and bought by third world shitholes where eventually some western weapon vaporises them

>2017
>tanks

>zerg rush and take horrifying losses compared to the Nazis
>only reach Berlin first because superior Anglos were keeping the Nazis occupied on the other front and decided to let you have that small victory
>WE BEAT DUH NAYZEES SINGLEHANDED!!!11!1!

>Because the Russian military industrial complex is state owned and therefore efficient

Very funny

>suggesting tanks are unimportant

You know very little clearly. Modern tanks will take multiple hits from any of them and usually survive.

>Because socialism works

Except for everywhere it has been tried.

But, otherwise, it works great.

>muh zerg rush
>Germany zerg rushes Poland=LOL POLES OWNED
>Germany zerg rushes France=LOL FRANCE OWNED
>Germany zerg rushes small European states=LOL EUROPE DOMINATED BY MIGHTY GERMANS
>point a gun at Russia,get rekt=WE GOT ZERG RUSHED NO FAIR

kys

>Zerg rush
>The Soviet infantry offensive is made by infantry supported by artillery, tanks, engineers, and aviation as the situation demands. It is generally in the form of simultaneous attacks on a broad front with concentrations of artillery and, particularly, tanks in the break-through area. The attack seeks to penetrate the enemy defenses in two or more sectors and converge on a limited objective; its mission is to encircle or envelop enemy groupings and destroy them by simultaneous attacks from all directions.
>The objectives of decentralized defense are to deny the enemy use of terrain, to divide his attacking forces, and to destroy him by numerous local counterattacks on the initiative of the local ground commander
>The centralized type of defense seeks, by employing obstacles or by maneuver, to channelize the enemy attack in a given direction in order to gain a more favorable position for a decisive counterattack with heavily armored units and concentrations of massed artillery. Dummy positions and false fortifications used extensively. A favorite Soviet maneuver is to allow the enemy to penetrate deeply into the lines and trap him in a fire sack.
>According to Soviet doctrine, speed of maneuver, seizure of favorable terrain, and quick deployment of main forces and artillery upon contact are essential. Aggressive reconnaissance, ground and air, is continual throughout the operation. Usually, a strong advance guard is utilized. An attack upon the flank is sought. The fullest use of artillery at the earliest possible moment is made.
Kill yourselves you fucking retards

Yeah, loosing 3 soldiers for every killed Axis soldier shows definetly a high level of technology

Sounds like a zerg rush to me.

stora, atena the list goes on. TOW and javline are shit, spike is where it is at.

Literally had to be rescued by the Angloes from collapsing.

>zerg rush and take horrifying losses compared to the Nazis
5 million Germans died on the East,and thats just Germans.Germany controlled large part of European resources and manpower,and struck at USSR.
German war on USSR was war of extermination,and they used all means to win,yet they lost.
Reality is reality.

> A favorite Soviet maneuver is to allow the enemy to penetrate deeply into the lines and trap him in a fire sack.
> Dummy positions and false fortifications used extensively
>Organised defensive maneuvers and attacks
>zerg rushes
You didn't even read my post, did you?
Lendlease was critical to the U.S.S.R, I will agree.

>Russians vastly superior
good one comrade

Loss is a loss.
Nobody gives a shit now if Neanderthals were outnumbered by humans,or the sun was going in their eyes.Reality doesn't give a shit about a reason.
It only cares who's stronger.Who dominated,and who gets dominated.
You got dominated by the Russians,it is a reality.
Deal with it,you little bitch.

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>Asian carp are a vastly superior species

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>what is analogy and how do I use it?

remember how America still can't get into space without Russian rockets?

deep battle=deep zerging

Beyond your grasp apparently.

heh BENIS

moms vibrator ;)

>Ahahahahaha
TELL THAT TO FAT KIM IF YOU DARE.

>It only cares who's stronger.
No, It only cares who wins.
And Russia has failed miserably in WW2.
1939 allied with Germans to start a war.
1941 fights with Germans for betraying them.
1945 war is over and Russians failed to conquer Europe. Stalin refuses to accept victory parade. As a result USSR will fail in the future because Europe freedom and economy superiority.
You see, Russia looses every time and as a result a shit tier country.

This is a salvage job, but what am I looking at?

>5 million nazis died
>30 million soviets died

#winning

remember how since 1970 our nasa program has slowly but surely become an affirmative action climate hoax promotion scheme

20 years behind the US in development of aircraft. Not necessarily a bad thing, but still.

The PAK-FA is technically quite an alright aircraft. It's modern, it's capable, the only problem, however; they don't have the budget. Because the US spends so much money on defense they can actually field these planes in good numbers.

Russia usually builds a very small number of their technically impressive equipment because they simply can't afford more, which basically makes their equipment pretty worthless.

Remember how Canada can't get into space at all?
We carried your nice robot arm to the ISS for you though, the space agency equivalent of putting your drawing on the fridge.

They are not really that superior.
Sure, thet made the AK and T-series tanks, but thats about it.
Their stuff is cheap but not entirely crappy, that creates and illusion that they are better.

There are also many failiures, like the Armata tank, and their attempts at making specialized weapons.

>technically impressive
only in tv shows really

Not a salvage job, that a old november class (perhaps K-159) that being stored and waiting in line to be cleaned up due to it nuclear reactors.

5 million nazi SOLDIERS died(excluding Italians and all the other Europeans that attacked)
8-10 million SOVIET(including all the other non-Russians) Soldiers died

Also,what's your point?
That's like you,5'5" guy going up to 6'4" guy and slapping him.After you get rekt like a little bitch you are,you proceed to claim that he's bigger and it's not fair.

consider kys

Russians are only good at the AK, missiles, helicopters, subs, tanks and recently e-war weapons. Used to be great at planes too but that slumped for a while. Will see if the T-50 makes a comeback.
Their military industrial complex mainly shines for how affordable the equipment is for its quality because it is state-owned unlike the military industries of the US which own the state.

AK, the T series and s300/400 are pretty based. the new pak fa looks hot as well but overall i doubt that russia is superior to the US regarding the weapon production

Behold, the mighty Russian space program

A more apt analogy would be two 6'4" guys squaring up... And one of them absolutely shitting on the other one, but then getting jumped from behind by two 5'5" guys and then the 6'4" who got his shit kicked in acting like he won on his own...

The USSR was a garbage country and your military was utter shite in WW2, thanks in no small part to dear leader Stalin purging your entire military command structure just before the war because he was paranoid they were all out to get him.

>thread of pathetic excuses
Too corny, girls

>5 million nazi SOLDIERS

On all fronts, not just the russian front.

Simple. They had to produce weapons that functioned well in any and all circumstances, rather than be aesthetic

What is SpaceX you dumb leaf. That's right, one of our private companies has a better space program than your country. And the best part is they even have competition (Virgin Galactic) that's still better than you space program.

Kek
It's cheaper thats all

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Rimon_20

90% on the Eastern front,fag

They're prepared for WW2

1800-2000 Russia was shit
But today its almost equal as USA and in future clearly will dominate world

Russians have better land forces for two reasons:
1. inheriting the legacy of the USSR and its top-tier tanks and armoured vehicles and so on
2. because Russia is a "land" nation. It's connected by land to all of its realistic opponents and so its land forces are its premier force. Red Army, not Red Navy.

Since the fall of the USSR most of its shit is poorly maintained and the army has been significantly downsized but tech development does continue, and Russia is where you should be looking if you want to see cool evolution of modern military technology that aren't just "what if we took what we already have and make it remote controlled" like the US in its quest to fight wars without leaving the comfort of their easychair. The US, by comparison, is a "sea" nation. The US's main focus is its navy and it shows. As far as land forces are concerned they're less interested in cool equipment for conventional wars (like new tanks) and more interested in fighting asymmetrical wars. You don't need a bigger, badder tank to blow up goatfuckers using T-55s, so the US spends its money on robot dogs.

Russia = land, conventional
America = sea, asymmetric

The US has always been ahead in planes though. Sometimes not by very much, but always.

Even the AK reliablity is a myth

AR>AK

>top-tier tanks

This also.

Russia has cool tech but not the budget to support it. If they were willing to go to USSR levels of spending again they'd be a real threat, but they're not.

>top tier tanks
Outside that your pretty spot on.

This is wrong.

T-72 > M60
T80 > M1
T-14 > M1 (still, lmao)

muh monkey models

Also
>comparing a modernised tank from the 1980s with a never-modernised export monkey model tank from the 1970s operated by literal monkeys.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
kys shill

Approximately 81% of Nazis died on the eastern front

Deadly weapons?
I'm shocked

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>Seriously the US spent $1.5 trillion on a 5th gen jet that barely works and the Russians have spent $50 billion and achieved better results.

The 1.5 trillion meme is an outdated expected total lifetime cost for all 2000+ jets and parts, training, fuel, weapons, r+d, updates etc. over 50 years.

Only like 300 billion have been spent so far and the f35 is between IOC and FOC.

Russia on the other hand has also spent billions and has a non-stealthy gen 4.5+ plane that they plan to build 12 of by 2020 (they won't reach this number)

>A favorite Soviet maneuver is to allow the enemy to penetrate deeply into the lines and trap him in a fire sack.


that was pretty much the soviets whole tactic for ww2
the soviets dident put up very much of a figth unless they wanted to so the germans overextended themselves
Stalingrad for example

Russia's lack of warm water ports is one of it's biggest issues. The state of Texas has a higher GDP than all of Russia

>mfw america spends almost as much on a jet as the australian government makes in a year
I just want to continue the legacy of the British Empire.

Modern western weapons are on another level. Russia can't even compete.

>not by very much
Russian has around 3,000 serviceable aircraft(probably a bit less) And not a very diverse arsenal of them.
The USA has 13,000 serviceable aircraft. The most diverse arsenal of flying machines in the world.
Not sure in what realm that is even considered close.

You are right overall. But afraid to admit the USA has massive air superiority as part of their war philosophy.
Its actually funny how afraid people are to admit that America is actually strong. Their butthurt just prevents it.

Meanwhile they exaggerate how strong Russia is. Russia hides behind nukes for a reason. Spoiler: they dont think they could win a full scale war with USA and soon not even against China. Considering their army is half the size and more geared for a different type of war. (like picking on Ukraine/Georgia and other neighbors, as per Soviet hangover policies.)

>Russians
>superior
>Reliable
>high quality
>Russians

I shit you not but DARPA right now is working on portable directed energy weapons, I'm not sure if they have them in small-arm size yet but they are definitely developing them as pieces on trucks and humvees.

We will probably see hand portable ones by 2030 or so, the only problem is the energy cost

The space-shuttle used Canadian components...

They killed like 100 times more astro/cosmonauts as the US did trying to get into space. Their shit is shit.

>implying they couldn't massproduce 10k warplanes in half a year in the event of war
number of tanks,weapons or planes are almost irrelevant.Whats important is technology and means of productions.
In the case of war,it's easy to turn most of countries resources for war efford.
And Russians have superior military technology.

Mindless bait or pure ignorance

>SOMETIMES not by very much
Firstly I was talking about technology there, and secondly I was talking about over the entire duration of the Cold War.

>Its actually funny how afraid people are to admit that America is actually strong
I find it more amusing how desperate you are to think that realistic appraisals of US weaknesses (of which there are many) presented in a relevant context are just butthurt.

>Not sure in what realm that is even considered close.
The USSR could have rolled over Western Europe at any point before 1970 and maybe even 1980, lack of air parity and all. The Cold War wouldn't have happened in the first place if the USSR was a paper tiger.

LOL, you are forgetting
>15,417,001 army boots shipped for the bare-footed Red Army. Uniforms and buttons were supplied by the U.S and Britain.
>14,795 aircraft, 7,056 tanks, 51,503 Jeeps, 435,457 military vehicles, 8,218 field artillery, 1,981 locomotives, and 11,155 freight cars. This rail stock was also used to transport millions to replace previous slaves who died daily in their thousands throughout Trotsky’s ‘White Negro plantations.’
>131,633 machine guns, 105 submarine hunters, 7,784 ships engines, 197 torpedo boats. 90 unpaid for ships were left with Stalin’s Bolshevik Russia. There was 4,478,000 tons of food, $1,078,965,000 of machines and equipment. 802,000 tons of on-ferrous metals, 2,670,000 tons of petroleum products, 842,000 tons of chemicals, 106,893,000 tons of cotton, 49,860 tons of leather, and 3,786,000 tires.

They almost certainly do at this point.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MARAUDER
bbc.com/news/technology-18630622

>being this wrong

Where are you from kid?

Serfia

Good bait. I give you 4/10

BTW tank warfare has been obsolete for 30 years now.

youtube.com/watch?v=37l7P5V1eXU

lolnope

Rheinmetall and Steyr claim that they will have portable lasers within the next 5 years.

Doubt it will take so long

You know what doesn't Leaf?

Dragon 2.

Day of the Cosmic Rake soon.

this looks cool

>GDP
MUH MEME numbers

I like some of the designs for their military equipment.

>spacex
>private company

Should we tell him?

Russian stuff is pure sex to model.

youtube.com/watch?v=Z7FqhTpHaMU

Texas fuck yeah

>AK
youtube.com/watch?v=PPC-4KBX4qE

I built that. Was so fun.