Some Prisons Pay For Themselves Now, THIS IS DISGUSTING

In the U.S some prisons are now paying for themselves by having the inmates work. Why is this legal? This will only encourage the courts to send even more people to prison since the cost is basically free. And i must say this isn't all prisons only minimum and medium security. Super-maxes don't pay for themselves

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Convicted criminals serving thier sentances are not entitled to the same rights and protections as a free citizen. That is why they can be made to work

No that's slavery.

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This is not a bad thing. It might teach those disgusting felons some work ethic and morals.

US can turn prisons into profits
A fucking leaf can turn poodles into prostitutes

No one gets forced to work. They can sit in their cells all day, if they choose.

ok, lets arrest you for a minor traffic violation so you can work for free

>This is not a bad thing.

It is if it undercuts free labour. It should only be used to supply the needs of the prison system itself and to replace goods that would otherwise be imported.

Work in prisons is voluntary. You can literally just do nothing all day and nobody will give a fuck.

In Canada, sentenced prisoners are required by law to work.

Former turnkey here.

they should be made to grow and tend their own food and to pay the guards

>going to jail over a minor traffic offense

And?

This is how the all-you-can-eat free-for-all consume-fest known as capitalism inevitably takes us.

You must be some sort of pinko communist or something.

That's socialism for you. Get your free food and shelter, pay for it with your work.

No, its slavery with extra steps.

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you're disgusting

Profits for whom tho?

Keep incentivizing imprisonment and see where it leads

Exactly.

Soon prisoners will be used to grow food for society, and eventually prisoners will be used as food for society.

Literally arrested for minor offense and turned into soylent green.

The consumers wouldn't have it any other way.

Bro i dare you to make a mistake so you too can be subjected to privitized prison slavery for pennies to the dollar.

This is literally constitutional

>American
>le "Freedom and Liberty" meme
>labelled a felon for comsuming drugs
>lose your rights, forces detention and labour
>"God damn I love when my country cucks itself"

Americans are dumb, enjoy your corporate prison complex

That's one hell of a slippery slope, friendos

I don't believe that's wholly true.

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Good, now people will think more before doing shit, that should be an example to be followed

beats staring at a fucking wall

i always assumed this was why any prisoner works

There's nothing wrong with a gulag besides that the workers undercut free workers

Government doesn't give a shit about your privacy and want to sell your data. What if someone finds you trying to download a car?

Hope you like slave labor

>prisons pay for themselves
>convicts now server a purpose for society
>this is somehow bad
ah yes....we should just allow more and more people to continue draining the tax base and being worthless to our society.

That is truly the path to success.

It is generally nigger-labor, so you typically get what you pay for.

13th Amendment
>Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.


except as a punishment for crime

EXCEPT AS PUNISHMENT FOR A CRIME!

Um isn't it optional for prisoners to work and aren't they rewarded in some way? It doesn't exactly sound like a gulag is what I'm saying.

LITERALLY nothing wrong with forced labour

Just don't do drugs then you degenerate

This is in no way a new thing. Lisence plates, blue jeans, farming etc.

What is new is "offender funded justice". Low end criminals fund the courts because rich people know they are above the law and no longer care about the legal system so why pay taxes to maintain it? In fact it's better for them if it's already corrupted.

Why do I feel like the tax payers still have to pay and the private corporation are taking all the profits

You forgot to mention the part where consuming drugs that are illegal will land you in prison. It's the fucking law, if you break it you face the consequences. It's not that hard. It's really fucking easy not to be a criminal.

You monsters, this is almost like a punishment. WHAT DID THEY DO TO DESERVE THIS?

They are rewarded with food and pennies

Prisons being own by private companies is one of the biggest shit sandwiches. That also makes a libertarians head explode "all govt things should be done by private corps" but didn't you just tell me how private corps prisons are abusing rigging the system to get non violent drug offenders locked up to make money?

How is that liberty or freedom? You can't even own guns in many states because of the laws, nevermind marijuana

but...muh rap music wants me to be cool!
Being a normal citizen is not cool!

Basically government gives private companies money for the prison and part of the deal is the private company makes the prisoners work which returns profits back to the state. Some years they could return less some years more but overall it's about even.

>The Bureau of Prisons, which oversees all federal inmates requires that all prisoners (barring medical reasons) work. State prisoners are in the same boat; according to Eric Fink, a professor at Elon Law school, in all or nearly all US states prisoners must work. If they refuse, they can be punished with solitary confinement, revoking visitation, or other measures.

>Um isn't it optional for prisoners to work and aren't they rewarded in some way?
Yes, and yes. Their wage is paid to the correctional facility and put in an account for the inmate. Typically the prisons don't let the inmates touch the money until they get released, but in some cases they can use the money for other things, like jail snacks.
Most of the time the inmate's baby momma lives off of those funds, too.

The inmates also get what essentially amounts to brownie points by working in the inmate program. Essentially "good behavior" credit to be used at your next parole hearing.

The consumers have an insatiable thirst for energy.

Social deviants and delinquents and such can provide the energy they require with their corpses.

Of course the political class would never stoop to literal cannibalism, but it's ok if the people that manufacture their toys do.

It's the new energy cascade. Similar in a lot of ways to the old fashioned food chain of ecosystems, only now composed of more human matter.

If you think about it, with 98% of the mass of Earth's mammals now composed of humans or their livestock, this is the only possible outcome.

Personally, I think it will be beautiful.

>freedom should be no laws
this gross misinterpretation is freedom needs to stop.

Law is the glue for society, if you don't have them then you can't uphold your way of life. This is why communists are subverting to rebel against your own laws. Because they want society to become unsustainable so that one day they can have a "revolution" which they will call freedom but will actually be literal slavery to a party of jews.

The facility also takes a cut of the money, of course, though I think they pass that off as "living cost".

Even so, it doesn't sound like a bad deal for the prisoners at all.

They make like 3 dollars a day and then they charge them 5 dollars for a can of Coke.

If I was in prison or something I think I would rather have something to occupy myself instead of sitting in a cell all day, this sort of boredom leads to trouble - fights and things like that. There's an argument to be had over whether or not it should be compulsory but still people don't just end up in jail because they want more workers, they have to commit a crime. We still all have protection under the constitution against unlawful persecution.

You're missing the point.

OP is suggesting that this creates an incentive for officers to arrest and judges to deliver jail time.

It's total bullshit though, inmates have been working since prison was invented. They punched license plates in Alcatraz.

Easy solution to the prison-for-profit system
Death penalty for rape, murder, kidnapping and other serious crimes. Make sure it's done publicly whether it's hanging, firing squad or electric chair.
For all lesser crimes just use old fashioned punishments like whippings or castration. They're quick, cheap and don't ruin someone's life by having a conviction and not being able to re-integrate into society.

It is they get paid absolutely nothing like literally dollars a week and then the prison charges 15 dollars to make a collect call.

Putting people to use is hardly a problem.
25% of world's prison population in the land of the free is, kys burgers

>castration
>doesn't ruin someone's life

go to bed pizza nigger

It's not a bad deal at all, and it does wonders for teaching the younger inmates work ethic and financial responsibility.
You know, the things prisons were originally designed for.
>reeducate individuals who fail to fit into society

Of course some inmates don't do well with the program at all, and those are the ones that just sit in their cell all day.
They make 8, though it depends on the job they are hired for. Obviously their labor will be cheaper than a non-inmate.
And the facilities garnish around 10% usually. It is illegal for them to take too much.

In the U.S., forced labor and slavery are allowed if they're a prisoner.

13th Amendment
>Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

>optional
>they get good behaviour credit

It's not really the money that I'm talking about.

The real slavery is letting the government tell you what you can or cannot do.

I'm not saying you should be able to murder people. Anything that does not infringe on the lives of others has no business being illegal. Laws such as those are passed just to limit your personal freedom

>castration

And then use the excess "matter" to feed livestock like pigs, and no energy is wasted.

It's the new food chain.

I did 9 months I'm Doncaster prison and was forced to make sofas for DFS

Stop talking out of your ass, you obviously know nothing of the inmate work program.
Or post some sources, because what you are saying is literally illegal. Any lawyer would be jumping at the opportunity to get such a case.

>the taxpayer not having to pay for the sustenance of criminal scum is bad!
>yes good goy, your money should be for criminals!
A FUCKING LEAF

Could be worse. Could be a Stalinist gulag.

The castration is for sexual degenerates, not people who steal and stuff

This sounds like a great system.
>worthless people?
>send them to the net-profitable detention centers!

like your tiny dicklet could feed a whole pig

fucking leafs, careful you dont dry up and blow away

>tfw your prisons don't have forced labor. Instead prisoners cry about muh human rights, muh privacy, can't fap alone. When they rape, murder and burn women.

Sure... at first.

But as the consumers start to become more and more desperate for energy, just image in the possibilities!

Only agree if you beat the charges and the accusers/defence has to take the punishment instead. Can't have false accusations being a thing if you have serious punishments

>UK prison
>forced
Can you expand?

I had two guys I used to work with a few years ago that I had to give rides to the halfway house after the shift tell me this personally.

you're childish like cenk uger

American prisons are way worse than Stalinist gulags. Stalinist Gulags were like mini-villages.

Prisons can't force you to work but most prisoners work so they can earn money for the commissary which has better food than the shit the prison serves them along with other amenities like tvs and radios. Plus you're not doing shit for most of the day anyway, working for these pieces of shit lets them escape from the reality that they're behind bars

It's literally already occurring, dumbass. It isn't a slippery slope. It's an evidential occurrence.

stop crying.

>trusting co-workers
>inmates no less
Ever think they exaggerate? I work with inmates all the time, and 80% of the time they act like they haven't outgrown high school, and as such have a strong resentment of authority.
>inmate telling you a story about the authority figures in their life
>authority figures sound like assholes
Hmm, I wonder why it always works out like this.

Just be glad you weren't forced to join Islam

Typical idiot leaf.

The best way to re-educate an inmate and prepare them for the outside is to give them a job. To teach them that their time is not to be wasted but to be spent productively, doing labor and benefiting from their own labor, even if it is vastly underpaid.

This way when they get out, they can get a job and get back on their feet.

This is genius.

The islamic prison conversion really brings a whole new meaning to the prison gang wars.
>Dues Vult: Incarcerated edition

Inshallah we will install sharia law brother
Alhamdullillah

arbeit macht frei

13th amendment. They can force labor. Most do not.

Damm right.
And all is well with the world.

It wasn't a diatribe they went on, they told me they got paid shit and I've been in county jail so I know how badly they rape inmates on shit like deodorant and phone calls.

You fucking dumb niggers

No one does a 5 year stretch in prison for a traffic violation unless there are priors, warrants or any accompanying offenses to the act.

Stop thinking like women.

If you didn't work or do education ( which they got paid to teach us) you were put on basic which ment no time out of cell, very little to spend on stuff like phone credit or food (don't get enough food have to top up) and less visits

if you can't do the time, don't do the crime

...

Someone's getting laid in prison.

This is correct method though.

Having inmates working and earning some money will help them in the long run. The current problem with them is that when they finish their sentence, they get about enough money to get drunk and go to jail again for wrecking the pub, at least around here. By having them work in jail, you can ensure that they'll have some money to rent themselves a room, food and shit for a week or a month and go job-hunting. On top of it, taxpayers pay total 0 potatobux of this handout.

>even if it is vastly underpaid.
They also are kind of forced to pay for their "living accommodations", though that is reasonable if done correctly.
I think the biggest benefit these programs have is holding the money from the inmates until they get released. It is effectively forced savings, and really helps the inmate in question get back into normal life when they get out.
Easier for them to avoid more criminal activity if they have savings, as well.
>they rape inmates on shit like deodorant and phone calls.
Ain't fucking summer camp. Dunno how it is from state to state, but the programs around me don't really get funding outside of the funds they get from the inmates wages.
Obviously they aren't treated like kings, but are we really expecting that?

Personally, I just think it is nice seeing the "correctional facility" meme functioning properly for once.

Would you rather work for pennies to a dollar or get raped?

We must strike fear in the heart of the nigger by confronting him with his greatest fear...a job aplication.

To be honest at least people don't screw around in their societies and there's an actual fear of authority. Over here the police are laughed at

Yep shit like this is why I was left behind in this world by my father with a mandate to put people like Private Prisons, Oil Execs, Whalers, etc. through MISERABLE HELL ON EARTH. To trap and torture a Private Prison owner would be both pleasurable and genetically correct. Watch yourselves

are you retarded or something?

I saw that boondocks episode!

How is that being forced to work? It's basically a real world simulator. If you don't work/study, you get enough to survive (which is also being generous).