Realistically, how long would North Korea last in a conventional (non-nuclear) war? 2 months?

Realistically, how long would North Korea last in a conventional (non-nuclear) war? 2 months?

More like 2 weeks

Iraq lasted less than a month and was the 4th largest military at the time.
But North Korea is a different beast, my guess would maybe be a year at the least, I would love to be proven wrong though.

It depends on what Russia and China do. The original Korean War (1950-1953) lasted over 3 years.

are you kidding me? the entire country is a week away from starvation. Do you really think they have rations for the military?

here's something a little dark for you, user: most of North Korea practices cannibalism, there's a reason why we never see anything outside of Pyongyang.

They'll make it three days, suffer an insane amount of casualties, and then surrender unconditionally.

Less than a day.

Never lose, us can't pay sufficient soldiers to go fight them

NK tech is far far behind, it wouldn't last long unless Russia propped it up.

Yes what changed from peak is 1950 to now?

WHo knows how long they could last with that Gold Plate tactical armor.

They will most likely sit out, they're not dumb, NK hurts China's bottom line, and NK is not a hill worth dying for, North Korea is widely hated across the globe, and for good reason, siding with them, when it's common knowledge that they were the aggressors in the ongoing war, would be a PR nightmare. Even China at this point isn't too keen on them.

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For a conventional war, probably a bit longer then the Iraqi. For the massive asymmetric guerrila war that would follow, I would think they could keep the fight going for decades.

Its over before its started.

Like in vietnam or Korean War?

Iraq is also just flat sand. Very little/no way to set up any defensive fortifications.

all their war fighting infrastructure would be bombed in a few days.
there is a high chance they will go full guerrilla warfare if Americans send ground troops.

On her own, she would start collapsing after few weeks, probably two or three.

But China and Russia would quickly poor advisers, weapons and ammos.

How do you get rid of 4 million fanatics?

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The Soviet Union collapsed which decimated NK in the early 90s, there were mass famines everywhere. Prior to the fall of the USSR, NK was actually relatively normal, for a communist country.

Since then, they've been relying on China to keep them afloat (selling coal), with occasional aid from the US every few years. Additionally, NK diplomats try and sell drugs in their host countries.

It's an extremely poor country. They have no ability to mount a defense.

China would invade immediately if a war broke out, they don't want to lose the buffer zone.

Yeah except now the North Korean people see what path they were forced on and likely would fold because their other option is concentration camps, death for making simple errors or torture of living in a shithole that's NK under kim.

My guess is when shit turns bad they'll garrison in the tunnels under Pyongyang with their 3 million reservists.

Murica will have to wait outside with their toys until they all starve to death. Who knows how much supplies they have stockpiled down there.

>with China's help
Less then a month
>without China's help
1-2 months

It will last indefinitely because we'll never beat them.

Screen cap this post.

You kill the people they're fanatic for.

They have guns, artellery nukes nuclear technology and such.

With Russia and China supporting could last years mate

China can't afford to risk a trade war with the US and the rest of the international community. They're going to have to give up NK.

And yes, it's going to be an international coalition. Conditioins in NK concentration camps are a thousand times worse than the holocaust and nobody's going to want to be fighting openly with NK.

It'd take a while. As you can tell by these generals medals, they have lots of war experience.

a week

Fuck it, just find the entrances and concrete them over.

If you think people will surrender to invade espicially brainwashed.. you never surrender to home invaders

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How many died in Vietnam or Korean War?

Bad digits, fuck this post

13 MOABs and the war is over before day break. It's really not that big of a nation and the list of potential targets is relatively small.

The big problem is defining a win state scenario. After KJU is deposed, what will the new borders look like? What about the 21 million people in NK? China does not want them.

fly a couple b2 bombers over each of the five second world cities they have and its done.

Millions in both.
Mostly civilians in both.

Have you seen North Korea outside of the capital? It is literally a shithole of very very poor villagers that look liek they are malnourished to hell and back.

Not to mention the concentration camps that have multiple generations of people living in them.

These people will gladly take foreign invaders who give them aide over Kim any day.

Half an hour

You're retarded, no people aren't living like that they are frugal but not oppressed purposely.

We will be home by christmas.

>Not to mention the concentration camps that have multiple generations of people living in them.

Imagine a 1945 Japan that never surrenders.

You cannot win that war without genociding and imprisoning that whole population.

Are you retarded or just a nork shill?

This, fucking with us would ruin their economy as every wealthy nation on the planet nationalizes their assets and cuts trade

>NK tech is far far behind

>You cannot win that war without genociding and imprisoning that whole population.
You do realize they had to build indiana jones booby trapped tier barriers around their borders to keep people in, right?

>The conditioms are worse than the holocaust
Yeah, because the holocaust never happened.

Why half an hour today and failed 40 years ago when us was more powerful?

LOL!!!!

How did they even earn those medals?

Top fucking kek!

i dont think you know just how little people care for dear leader over there beyond getting food.

maybe the higher songbun people would resist, but a good 4/5 would voluntarily surrender or really have zero choice.

>believes mainstream media

Have you ever seen the fucking DMZ?

>Vietnam
Iirc
>viet cong and allies lost 1,500,000ish
>US lost 10,000-20,000
It's the reason hippies pressured the gov into dumping it. For ever us soilder killed, 100 gooks were murderd. And no one liked seeing gooks getting massacred by the thousands on tv

A week, maybe two.

You do realize that the Nork military is recruited from the worker/intellectual class right? The loyals who live in Pyongyang. Those are the people who make up the military.

That would be the most retarded dictatorship move ever: giving the underclass access to weapons.

Yeah, you would be able to at least liberate the villagers in the shithole villages and they would probably go without a fight. Kind of like in the Iraq war. And just like in the Iraq war once you get to the capital, you are no longer "Greeted as liberators".

>they have advanced chinese sunglasses

are you the retard from the other thread? this will be fun

Fuck! That's a ridiculous amount of medals! Are they the only military to do this??

Surrender family executed, surrender Holmes's and dead without a dime there is literally only fight or die

those generals have a lot of medals, our generals cant even compete man. we're fucked

>country with nuclear arsenal
>war that threat countrys existence
>wage conventional war without nukes usage
Wow, such delusions.

NK famines a CIA psy-op, no?

>Have you ever seen the fucking DMZ?
Yes.
>implying it's function is to imprison the population
>what is Korean war

Two weeks to two months is what military experts predict.

Remember, it would be DPRK vs. USA/ROK/PRC/Japan. And the DPRK military is undertrained and malnourished, and their gear is outdated and poorly maintained.

so how did the people who wrote the bible know that Lot's wife turned to salt if no one was allowed to look back in the direction of the city?

Checkmate christians.

The people are afraid, starved only fighting for their lives rather than pride of one's nation.

>knows absolutely fucking nothing about NK
lmao!

Us lost 400k soldiers Surrender get family killed and raped by invaders and your people conquered.

i guarantee you after the first shots are fired half of them will surrender

> Implying the US couldn't disable their nuclear capabilities like we disabled that missile a few days ago.

see
The underclass is starving.
The military is not recruited from the underclass.
Dictatorships 101.

>Realistically, how long would North Korea last in a conventional (non-nuclear) war? 2 months?

Regime escapes through stargate to Site B and will continue resistance forever.

Its a good thing Pyongyang has fuck all population
Also asians are different from muslim scum, the Japs and South Koreans loved us after their wars, they were willing to work with us.

>spend years killing asians in some shithole that could never retaliate
>Decades later they are doing better and hate china
Would be fine IMO

They most likely waited for her, called her name or came back at a later date and reported a salt statue.

iirc it took less than a month to conquer the entirety of North Korea with a barebones, cobbled together post-war army.
NK has stagnated and America has improved non-stop since then.

We would strike all their artillery with missles, roll into Pyongyang and cut the head off the snake. Most of the hardcore juche adherents would be so demoralized by this they would surrender, a good portion would probably start an insurgency but their provisions and positions would be terrible at best. On top of this china would push from the south. Maybe 2 weeks-month

>i guarantee you after the first shots are fired half of them will surrender

but they're not Americans

I completely lost it laughing at that pic. They cant be serious, can they? A country with no real wars since 1953 and multiple people decorated all on their body, arm, and even pants? Even if they are 1337 korean war vets its hilarious.

well we had complete mobilization and a draft in the korean war and look at what happened.

We do not even have a draft now so this is a vietnam 2.0 scenario at best

Yes i know it's to also keep SK out, but it goes both ways

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Indefinitely. The blueprint for fighting the US to a stalemate has been well established. The US would be fighting a COIN war on the first day.

Can you give me a source on your propaganda?

>implying 99% of american equipment isn't all cold war era tech

Americans getting too confident in this thread rn

You have to realize North Korea has 25 Million people all over the country probably more loyal to Kim than YOU ARE to TRUMP.

It's gonna be like Vietnam all over again boys, Guerrilla Warfare, Attrition, Booby Traps.
Sure you'll defeat their initial army but what about after?
These people don't want to be "Free", Giving them a pepsi isn't actually going to work.

You know someones important when they got to pin the medals to their pants...

>how long would North Korea last

They are dead men/women/children walking...it'll be over in an instant...

We didnt lose 400k, that was South Vietnam, we lost about 50k

>tfw norks apply armor plating on their generals

Are they expected to lead from the front?

Dont forget
>love America

what if they shoot missiles first? Will they aim at Seoul?

reminds me of ohio state football helmets and those damn stickers

Like I keep saying tech is irrelevant. Once they garrison in the tunnels they are untouchable. If you try to move on the tunnels it'll just be a big meat grinder. Because once it boils down to infantry war an M4 and an AK47 are a reasonable match up, despite one being way older.

>You have to realize North Korea has 25 Million people all over the country probably more loyal to Kim than YOU ARE to TRUMP.

Lol people aren't stupid, only reason everyones staying put is they're afraid of the military

if the military falls apart so does the regime

Have you ever been to Pyongyang? I bet not. I have.

The "elite" in the capital aren't huge fans of Kim Jong Un, or Kim Jong Il. They remember life under Il Sung, before the famines. They know, on some level, how fucked they are. They only display loyalty to the regime because their families are being held hostage. If you disrespect the leader, or the government, and keep in mind in a communist country that means disrespecting *anything around you*, your entire extended family, including cousins you've never met, gets sent to a concentration camp in the north east where you will never see electricity again. If you speak out in any way against anything, you'll live to see your own children eat each other.

Deep down, they know what's going on, they just can't say anything about it -- this is what Western reporters don't understand when they try to interview people in Pyongyang. They seem like they're completely brainwashed, but that's because idiot reporters give them stupid questions where any answer is a death sentence.

It's a country of 20 million hostages, user. Once you understand that, you'll understand NK better than most of the so-called journalists you're going to see on TV in Pyongyang.

Is there anti missile capabilities in SK? Or Japan?

This.