Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
Link to Venezuela user thread experiencing a communist revolution.
Ethan Hall
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Joseph Price
>This is your brain on communism
Eli Parker
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Carson Cook
Friendly reminder that everywhere communism has been implemented it has failed. Either the state eventually collapses or they are forced to reform economically(i.e. China).
William Scott
Spain was a mistake
Tyler Gomez
>give me your redpills /leftypol/ Specifically, the work you do is always worth more than what you are paid, because the capitalist can sell whatever it is you produce for more than you were paid in wages. The productive forces of our society are controlled by a tiny elite instead of by the people, so what ends up happening is that millions of proles sweat their lives away while the porky bastards windsurf in Hawaii. To put it in terms you might be more familiar with, capitalists are the ultimate welfare queens. >my stance on hatred of jews and niggers will never change. To say that your position on any topic will never change is to declare yourself to be beyond reason. That said, those "jews" and "evil niggers" are your natural allies regardless of what you think about them, because they are being exploited just like you are. The leftist position on racism is as much about pragmatism as it is about a commitment to equality.
The basic gist is that capitalism is inherintly broken. Companies want to make as much money as possible which means paying works the smallest amount possible. Eventually workers can't afford to buy things, meaning the whole system collapses. Currently with automation we are going to see a huge loss of jobs that will make the concept of full employment obsolete - so who is going to buy things? Communism isn't some grand fucking conspiracy about race or western civilization - its just a question of economics.
Luke Ward
(((Spanish)))
Wyatt Carter
OP is a faggot who has never worked a day in his life.
Nolan Scott
Fuck, that's retarded. If they both kicked from the same side then it would at least do something other than spin around.
Dylan James
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
----------------------------------------- Da sdages of gommunism.
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
Grayson Young
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Brandon Bennett
Fuck you and your shitty thread Spain learn 2 ecomonix
Levi Myers
Proponents of capitalism argue that the real living standards of those on low pay are better raised by allowing the whole economy to grow. As it grows, those at the bottom of the social heap will benefit from wealth that ‘trickles down’ from the top. The falsity of this argument can be seen by looking at the figures. The long term rate of growth of the UK economy is 2.5 percent per annum(1993).
How many years would it take a woman earning the median wage to get up to £300 per week at this growth rate? The answer is 30 years: check it on your calculator. Socialist redistribution could achieve directly what would otherwise take the better part of a working lifetime. With socialism the employee can have her cake and eat it too. She gets a once and for all rise in income through redistribution, but economic growth does not stop, so she will continue to enjoy rising earnings year by year.
Matthew Young
>death by unclean water >death by starvation >death from disease >death from malaria
That's not because of capitalism, that's when you live in a shithole country.
Kayden Kelly
Also OP is a faggot.
Carson Ross
>Always the same nonwhite faggot from spain making these threads 24/7
Hilarious.
Levi Lewis
>death by unclean water >>death by starvation >>death from disease >>death from malaria
capitalism could easily donate some of the money it makes in surplus to fix these issues
Liam Brown
It's the most retarded shit I've read today congratulations
Levi Clark
Yeah, Fuck you dad! NO MASTERS!
Jeremiah Mitchell
Vaya puto borrego, ganado para judíos
Nathaniel Anderson
>another thread was dropped from the catalog for this shitposting
Thanks for correcting the record
Angel Jones
Isn't it time for siesta? Also you're a dedicated Spaniard, you keep making these threads everyday.
Robert Wood
>that's when you live in a shithole country. yeah that's because capitalism turns your country into shithole
Joseph Long
>there are people who unironically follow the economic ideology of a man so lazy he let 3 of his children die from starvation and neglect in the homeless conditions he made them live in
Austin Williams
Hello cucks. This general is for the discussion of Cuckoldry, the ideology of revolutionary open relationships and sexual desire.
Cuckoldry is the next stage of relationship following the monogamy.
What exactly is cuckoldry according to cucks:
>Cuckoldry is a stage of relationship in which the reproductive means of the wife are bull-owned, and husband gets to bed not in order to have sex with her but to prep the bull. >Cuckoldry in it's full form is a pleasurably degrading, bull-worshipping relationship that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a relationship cuckoldry teaches us that we must replace the standrad marrige, which is controlled by the husband and a wife, by a cucked relationship, which is controlled by the bull. Then, a period of prepping follows in which the bull is pleasured by the cuck. When the bull class has been prepped, there will be time for wife to get mounted by the bull, and eventually the functions of the husband will become indistinguishable from the functions of a porn shot fluffer, and his genitalia will 'wither away' as Marx said.
I don't have any websites but i'm pretty sure OP can help me with that.
Josiah Morales
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yo KANGZ an KWEENZ. Dis general iz for da takin of da past of BLACK MELANOID MAN
Back in da day WE WUZ KANGZ we travel da stars and oda planetz in our space MELANOID ships an shiet.
Woke thingz u need to now to be WOKE
>Dr. Seuss, dat cracka with da rhymes iz da prophet of Satan >Honkeys wuz made by black science manz as soldiers for fightin our wars for us. But dey rebeled. But ANCIENT BLACK MELANID MAN was wise an shiet and gave honkeys tiny dicks so honkey bitches will allways prefere a nigga. >Rapture will be raptors (like dem dinosaurs) fallin from da sky and eating honkeys. >Star Wars an Predator? Tottaly happened. Stay Woke. >Da Earth is eampty inside an shiet. >Aborted babies don't be dyin. They are flushed down da toilet an live in da sewers. >Honkeys drink ya blood.
OP is a massive faggot His dick is tinier than a newborn maggot He really thought he was being funny clever and witty But in actuality his post was just very shitty
The only other thing his mouth spills out that dumb Are impossibility large quantities of nigger cum He wishes he had a woman between his knees but instead he can only jack off to dick-girl fantasies
the only action he'll ever get is a one-way with his hand infact his entire birth wasn't even planned His room is full of dragon-dildos and weeaboo-merch he is even more pathetic than Anthony Birch
the last time he saw a real vagina was when he was born the last time moon-man inside job his mom her cervix was torn. O look OP's mom is already knocking on my door and her gaping cunt is begging for more
so before i go i want you all to have a nice day and remind everyone in this thread that op is fucking gay 'kkkay 'kkkay 'kkkay
Nolan Ortiz
That guy is not me.
Lincoln Hernandez
>That guy is not me. yes it is spic
Jason James
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Noah Martinez
No one wants what you're selling commie
Nicholas Brooks
Can't sell something that was designed to free.
Blake Hill
A communist society or communist system is the type of society and economic system postulated to emerge from technological advances in the productive forces in Marxist thought, representing the ultimate goal of the political ideology of Communism. A communist society is characterized by common ownership of the means of production with free access to the articles of consumption and is classless and stateless, implying the end of the exploitation of labor. In his Critique of the Gotha Programme Karl Marx referred to this stage of development as upper-stage communism.
James Martinez
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Jayden Anderson
Only good red is one that was born in 1997 but didn't have any human contact until age 15, than brutally raped and murdered
Andrew Rogers
The bourgeoisie are the class which owns the means of production but does not use them you can think of the means of production as anything 'used' to generate profit e.g. a factory, a shop, a car, machinery, etc if you own means of production but are self-employed, and do not employ anyone else, then you are not bourgeois if you do not literally own means of production but in effect control it, you are bourgeois (e.g. CEOs who do not literally own their companies, but as they run the company they 'own' it in the sense that they decide what is done with it, they decide their own wages, etc) a good litmus test: ''1. do you work for a wage? 2. do you get to decide your wage? 3. do you get to decide anyone else's wage?'' if yes to 1 but not to 2 or 3, you are not bourgeois if yes to 1 and 2 but not to 3, you are petit-bourgeois if yes to all three, you are in effect bourgeois if you do not work for a wage at all, but rather own the means of production directly, then you are absolutely bourgeois
If you own a small shop that you run for a living making 50k USD a year you are petite bourgois. If you are a heart surgeon making 150k USD a year but you work for a hospital and you aren't in charge of hiring of firing anyone you are fully proletarian. Labour aristocracy maybe but still proletarian. It is not a question of income, but a question of ones relationship to the means of production.
Jaxon Flores
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Colton Cruz
Of course European Mexican made this post, stop taking welfare away from the true whites
Joseph Mitchell
I have no family in Mexico what are you talking about?
Oliver Moore
This is a spurdo sparde thread now
Cooper Ramirez
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Julian Hall
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Justin Davis
i missed these threads, Comrade. Communism is the true red pill.
Thomas Rodriguez
Yes it is.
Brody Torres
Liquidate the bourgeoisie.
James Perry
>Liquidate the bourgeoisie. Is there any communists people who even work in factory all ive seen are college kids who belong to the bourgeoisie i speak for myself who worked in factories during the summer all i can imagine is that you have a small mental retardation
Carter Taylor
or are suicidal get some help
Logan Gonzalez
Hierarchies are older than trees.
Ian Long
If you have to sell your labor to make a living, you're a prole.
Jason Carter
everyone does this tho
Cameron Harris
Idiot
Robert Ortiz
Except for millionaire shareholders.
Evan Phillips
Explain
Logan Watson
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Evan Brown
>if you have more than a dollar a day, you're not poor wew lad
How does that account for costs of living?
Angel Anderson
they or their parents had to get to this point somehow youre blaming them from being smart in the past
Anthony Jackson
because in a lot of these places prices are so cheap a dollar a day is all you need
In Mexico you can live a middle class suburban lifestyle on $100 a week
Matthew Baker
So you're in favour of a meritless feudal inheritance system and condone Rockefellers and Rothschilds? That's your preference.
Xavier Allen
>take every single disaster or war in history >blame it on Capitalism
Literal retardation. And I'm not even a capitalist
Carson Lee
oh shit, commies finally found out how to make communism work
Zachary Rogers
no im not saying they shouldnt be paying more taxes im just saying after one point its simply unfair and no matter what some unfairness will never be removed so shouldnt it be more rewarding to the smart
Benjamin Rivera
Everyone has the right to eat!
Pic related
Luke Russell
Socialism and markets are compatible.
>everybody understands that it's easy to make money when you HAVE money >everybody understand that money can influence politics >everybody seems confused how powerful families with vast wealth can influence how we live >and have no desire to change the system that allows them to exist in the first place A society that doesn't have 100% inheritance tax has no claim to being fair or being based on merit.
Grayson Nguyen
Is applying the same fallacies as those who blame communism for millions of deaths
Carter Smith
>A society that doesn't have 100% inheritance tax has no claim to being fair or being based on merit. So youre telling me fuck it just have as many kids as i want no fucks given on how they are raised that is simply niger logic
William Adams
No, because Communism (the economic system) actually did lead to mass starvation and shortages
Nathan Long
Well, you're probably going to receive financial support for first 3. Or 2, depending on environment conditions.
And it can't exist as you imagine it. Because it's retarded and violates all rules of human nature and behavior. You might as well insist we all act like deer or crabs or sheep.
You're really willing to gamble on some radical new system with a history of mass-genocide while world poverty is being solved?
Andrew Kelly
No they aren't, you retard. This market socialism nonsense only got popularity after Mises and other economists completely demolished the idea of a marketless society. Communism and socialism were always meant to be marketless. In fact, Richard D Wolff and other commie retards always talk about how markets are evil and profits don't work, and how proto communist societies were societies before markets, then after commies get btfo and can't even explain how wealth is created in their society, they go "socialism and markets are compatible."
USSR wasn't real socialism because it had markets so it was state capitalism. Except now markets are compatible with socialism. Look at me, I'm a socialist, I don't objectively define anything on purpose so there are more gaps for me to hide myself in.
Stop being delusional, stop constantly changing your beliefs.
Elijah Baker
i understand what youre saying i dont know what is the best option what i know is that communism is not the way foward but the way back of course pic 100 % unrelated
Dominic Edwards
>world poverty is being solved It's not, tho
Luis Roberts
> i know is that communism is not the way foward but the way back Is that what you think or what they want you to think? Why is it every time a country attempts to move towards communism, it is met with such hostility? Churchill wanted to invade USSR with rearmed German forces. Cuba was embargoed for more than half a century.
Aaron Campbell
What if someone has more than 3... What would be the consequences if they can't afford to take care of them? Would we have to criminalize having too many kids? Would we have to take the kids away, and if so, wouldn't we be spending even MORE money to take the kids away and put them through the system etc. etc.? And if we have to make laws that prohibit having more kids that you can't afford how would we enforce those laws and how much would that cost?............
David Hughes
>"lolz stalin ate all the grain and paid the cloud to rain xDDD" mfw
Yeah, this famine that started with Stalins five year plan and attempt to collectivize the entire industry and ended with the backpedaling of many policies was totally just a country wide natural disaster, an amazing coincidence./s
That's why they never even tried to collectivize farmlands again, fear of another natural disaster. If only commies had a better weather, communism would have worked. If only we had a system that could supply food to its citizens regardless of weather....
Just hypothesizing some possibilities... If a person can't take care of a child because they lack the resources (money) you either have to provide them with resources (more money) or take the child into a safe environment until the person can take care of the child... Or do we leave the child in a home without resources / food etc. ?
Jason Campbell
>they need to hide themselves in echo chambers in order to believe (that's why OP never tries to discuss in his own thread)
Ian Gonzalez
>their beliefs can easily be identified as delusional by any normal person outside of their cult
Thomas Gomez
Well, that would certainly be more humane. What's the current system?
Ryder Lopez
Please, tell me, leaf, how do you know whether a line of production is worth its costs in a communist society?
Jeremiah Sanchez
The current system gives more resources, but resources are not unlimited, which can become a real issue if you're at all concerned about sustainability...
