Space Elevator: The Ultimate Red Pill

We can build an Orbital Ring Space Elevator today, using steel and kevlar. The Orbital Ring goes to low earth orbit, so it does not need advanced materials.

youtube.com/watch?v=0qezLhypA0Y

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_ring

orionsarm.com/fm_store/OrbitalRings-I.pdf

Why build the Orbital Ring? It would cut our costs of going to orbit from about $2000/kg to about $1/kg. There are individual asteroids that have tens of trillions of dollars in materials on them that could be mined. One mission could easily pay for the cost of building the Orbital Ring.

We could then deploy solar power satellites in orbit above cloud cover and return the power back to the surface with near zero loss by running power transmission cables down the elevator, and sell the power at a profit.

With increased luminosity in space, enhanced exposure time, and the ability to deliver base loads, solar panels pay for themselves in only 1-2 years while having a 20 year life time.

In other words, if you put $5 trillion of solar panels into space, you get your $5 trillion back by the end of year two and a $5 trillion income stream each year thereafter.

In other words, the US could cut everyone's taxes, both personal and business, income, capital, death, or otherwise, all to 0%, not even cut any benefits or current spending, and pay off the national debt within a decade.

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Not this again, go post your gay space elevator porn somewhere else.

I had nothing to do with any of the gay porn. Seriously, that is an FBI Cointelpro thing to discredit the Space Elevator Party.

How are you getting past the dome?

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okay sir, make better memes though

Can we just build that instead of the wall and ship the nigs, kebabs, and spics to the Moon, an asteroid, or something?

The dome?

FUCK OFF, FBI! QUIT POSTING BBC AND GAY PORN IN OUR THREADS!

How would this be possible?

Uh... I guess.

Yeah, I'm old. Computers frighten me.

I'm not sure what you mean. Do you have specific questions?

kek

Excellent

Will you space elevator fags fuck off. We don't need your gay shit here

No. Trump's a cuck, we're taking over.

Why is there such hate against this
I genuinely don't get it
This is cool

I took the space elevator pill

The FBI sends Cointelpro shills in here to attack us. We're a threat to the cabal.

I is skeptical of this elevator business. How are you going to keep the elevator in space? How are you going to tether power down to the surface?

(((space)))

These people took the space elevator pill

>How are you going to keep the elevator in space?

The rotation of the ring provides tension for the tether down to earth.

>How are you going to tether power down to the surface?

Run a transmission line down the tether to the surface of the planet.

Fuck off shill

>no rotovator staircase
Shit concept.

Won't you lose a lot of energy transferring energy down from the tethers?

GODDAMN MOTHERFUCKING COINTELPRO, MLK AND MALCOLM-X MURDERING FBI AGENTS! STAY THE FUCK OUT OF OUR THREAD!

We all need to take the space pill

Very little, actually. A few percent, depending on how far it goes after coming off the tether.

Since I don't know if this is a joke thread or what, I want to ask something.
How would the ring be constructed in such a way that none of it falls to earth?

I suppose you could take advantage of traditional orbital patterns and attach the sections together in pieces, but in that case, the ring would have to be spinning faster than the rotation of the earth.

How would a single point ever be able to stay connected to the earth for any stretch of time?

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Assuming you produce all the power you are saying, what are you going to do with the excess power? Is there a way of storing it in large batteries or what?

>Since I don't know if this is a joke thread or what,

It's not. Every time I post, someone comes in here and starts posting gay porn and 9/11 memes to try to discredit it.

>How would the ring be constructed in such a way that none of it falls to earth?

The sections of the ring are in motion. So, if a station failed, they would go off into orbit. Or, worst case scenario, they would burn back up on ignition.

>the ring would have to be spinning faster than the rotation of the earth.

Yes.

>How would a single point ever be able to stay connected to the earth for any stretch of time?

The ring is in motion. Not the tether to earth.

SPACE IS BRITISH TERRITORY, SPACE EMPRESS ELIZABETH WHEN

what do u mean its happening? did trump sign the bill or something?

Sell it. Average price of energy is 17c/kwh in developed countries. Higher in poorer countries. We could literally drop a cable down into sub-saharan Africa, sell them power at a huge markup, and they would be eternally grateful because they can't afford to build power plants of their own.

Not anymore. The Colonies are taking it over.

>5T made after 2 yrs
>5T each year after
Wouldn't it be 2.5trillion a year if it took two to make 5 trillion? That's evidence enough that you just pulled those numbers out of your ass.

This isn't happening lol

It's happening whenever Trump decides to quit being a cuck. Or else he's getting primaried by someone who will build the Space Elevator.

Is this what happens when you take the Space Elevator Pill?

Takes time to get the elevator and the satellites built.

> That's evidence enough that you just pulled those numbers out of your ass.

If you assume everyone with good news is lying.

Fuck off FBI!

>Space elevator
>Checks flag
Take the Space stairs you fat fuck.

I-it's happening, don't worry! We just have to wait for something to happen!!

In other words: It's not actually happening and you're a liar. Thanks for getting my hopes up, faggot. Every time I see you make one of these threads it is getting saged starting now.

>Won't you lose a lot of energy transferring energy down from the tethers?
High temperature superconducting wire already exists. You can send so much current that would normally require 1m thick copper through a relatively small wire.

>The ring is in motion. Not the tether to earth.
Am I then to imagine something like this where the elevator would lead to an area surrounding the ring which would then allow entry at specific points when lined up?

if you think USA would benefit from something built in the future, you have to ask one question:
>How will jews benefit from it?
if they don't, it won't be built

So, in your opinion, where are the best locations for tethers? This would have to be an international project right? Also how many tethers would you need?

Take the /cpd/ pill instead

>Every time I see you make one of these threads it is getting saged starting now.

Fuck off shill. Quit posting gay porn in our threads.

I'm not sure I understand your question.

Permanent destruction of "the Jews" (British bankers, actually).

There's nothing backing those numbers whatsoever

How will you maintain such a large structure? Won't it be hard to fix a problem on it?

Can we send this faggot with all the nigs, kebabs, and spics into space?

t. newfag

ever heard of ids? im not the one posting that shit. now take this shit to reddit where people live in an alternate reality like you.

Once you build the first ring, you can build additional rings for around $1 billion (look at the material costs). Which makes it really easy to just put tethers in a position to access any large population centers.

Did you read any of the sources in the OP?

The same way we maintain railroads ports, or any other large project. It's a lot easier to do these things when we can get into space easily.

He's getting primaried.

What I'm saying is, in order for the ring to move, we both agree it must follow the basic rules of orbit.
An elevator would have to then be separate from the ring itself in order to not be destroyed and fuck up the orbit.
So the best solution would be an elevator that leads to an area that surrounds the ring in a tunnel-like fashion.
From there, you would wait until a specific point on the ring to leave the tunnel and enter the ring itself.

Is that what you mean?
Because I can't think of any other solution.

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"I'm not the FBI shill, I can't be! There's only one IP address at the FBI!"

Fuck off, faggot. We're coming. You can't stop us.

>Permanent destruction of "the Jews"
first:how, second:when
it is not unlike that you are protecting jewish agendas around the world with USA military industry complex, and in doing so, preventing yourself and the world from living in peace and prosperity

Yeah but what if the first 25% gets hit by sabatoge. Controlled explosion/ect. See ya 5Trillion. Global power companies would definatly do this if you shorted them by 75% for your electricity.
Imagine if that space transport slapped down on the earth and cities like a whip.

Alright, FBI. That was a good one.

Destroy the Overton Window that supports "The Jews" banking cabal. (it's not really the jews).

>Yeah but what if the first 25% gets hit by sabatoge. Controlled explosion/ect. See ya 5Trillion.

Who has the capacity to destroy thousands of satellites without using our elevator to access space? And we would have the only lasers and other weapons up there.

> Global power companies would definatly do this if you shorted them by 75% for your electricity.

What power company owns space fighters?

also you think were going to build scaffolding to 160 km? Who is going to go up to 160 km. You need trained men for that and they wont work for cheap. go away

I'm trying to imagine how this would actually happen, step by step. So I'm guessing we would construct a series of "sections" of the orbital ring that are designed to fasten together.

One at a time, we launch these sections into space and put them into orbit around the Earth.

We would time these launches so that when we arrive in orbit, we're close enough to the other "sections" that we can grab hold of it as it passes by and attach another piece to it.

And so on and so on until we construct an entire ring that we then tether to the Earth (so it doesn't float away?)

Or is the tether really just there to act as the elevator? The ring would stay floating around Earth even without the tether, I would think, so is the only purpose of the tether to serve as the actual entry point to the ring? I think I'm actually starting to see how this would work now. Don't kill me pls illuminati.

Friendly reminder that this orbital ring would have to spin at 18,000 mph

not to mention many countries over the equator (best place to build spess ring) would be pissed, would be paid to be pissed by enemies of the project, green ecoactivist retards would invent some story as well

>Destroy the Overton Window
you sound like you don't know what you are doing
you just simply say
>destroy
>build

you don't say how it should be done
also, banking cabal are the jews, really
ancient jewish bloodsucker psychovampires may be little over the top, but actually it is plausible.

>And we would have the only lasers and other weapons up there.
also, Russia and China would have to have a cut in this cake or you won't build it ever

>using steel
You're a fucking retard

>kevlar
Do you know how long your tether needs to be for the space elevator to work? Even kevlar would still be too fucking heavy for that shit

how the fuck would an elevator work if the earth is flat dipshit

wasn't material supposed to be carbon microfilaments?

And what are you going to make it out off?

>also you think were going to build scaffolding to 160 km?

Did you read any of the OP? You should start there, because you don't understand how it would be constructed. The ring would be assembled first.

Yeah, something like this. Goes up in pieces, pieces are deployed.

>Or is the tether really just there to act as the elevator?

The elevator and the station to redirect pieces of the ring. Sort of like a launcher.

>The ring would stay floating around Earth even without the tether, I would think, so is the only purpose of the tether to serve as the actual entry point to the ring?

Yes, and to keep the pieces in motion.

>Don't kill me pls illuminati.

We don't murder people. That's just the gay-porn posting FBI guys in here.

can you make it longer than a meter?

The space elavator needs to be made out of Gundium.

>Flat Earth meme

no, humanity in general cannot, no tech good enough for mass production, therefore no spess tethers

water filters

exactly

How could the tether act as an entry point to the ring if the ring is spinning at 18,000 mph?

If this thing is untethered, then why have a ring instead of just a bunch of independent spaceships or space stations?

>not to mention many countries over the equator (best place to build spess ring) would be pissed, would be paid to be pissed by enemies of the project

Who of them has a space program?

>also, banking cabal are the jews, really

Who created Israel? B'nai B'rith?

>also, Russia and China would have to have a cut in this cake or you won't build it ever

Probably.

It only goes to low earth orbit, not geosynchronous.

We are going to build a space elevator and it's going to be great. You will love. You will get tired of winning. We are going to build a space elevator and Mexico is going to pay for it. Make Elevators Great Again. MEGA

Oh shit, that is a good idea, or we can make it out of Air, and we just use kerosene and oxygen to go up.

Go right ahead just don't build over Australia, Imaginging walking down the road and you doe from a fallen screwdriver droped by some fem nazi working up there no thankyou

Fine. I will pledge my cock ring to this project in the name of science. Will you spacedock with me now, spacefag?

I dunno, FBI, you tell me? Why do you guys push flat earth shit everywhere, and why are you trying to sabotage this idea if it's so stupid?

Orbital ring doesn't need those. That's the newer idea, not Tesla's original idea.

Steel, kevlar, and magnets, mostly.

>not knowing what solar panels are

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Lofstrom loop is way better than elevator to begin with.

>121799155
You dont seem to know how orbital mechanics work.

So the individual pieces we'd have up there would basically be satellites, that makes sense.

So low earth orbit starts at 160 kilometers according to wikipedia. I know you claim that kevlar can be built this high, but I don't know much about physics. What formulas are you using to calculate how high you can build with kevlar?

i-is that spiderman?

>Steel, kevlar, and magnets, mostly.
>magnets
How do they work?
but seriosly, I am not sure if calculations allowing steel and kevlar to be in spess were correct, even if Tesla himself did that

Get me a recipe for some Gundium, and I'm down. Otherwise, we'll do the one we can build with existing materials.

How about a few hundred km? Do you know how long we can make a tether made from steel and kevlar?

Read the links.

We have the best aeronautical engineers, don't we?

Things burn up on entry.

I already did this calculation in a previous orbital ring thread. Let me see if I can find it

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You're nearly as retarded as the flat-earthers in Sup Forums. Please kys

what did he mean by this?

Tfw orbit ring is just beyond reach

Ok, let's look into the idea of the space elevator
Let's do an integral

We say the material has a mass per cubic meter of "&", and a cross section of A

So the amount of tension (T) any cross section of cable will be the mass of each cross section of the cable below multiplied by the gravitational force it experiences.

Let's call R the radius of the Earth, D the distance above the earth of our cable, M is the mass of the Earth, and F the force of gravity.
As you know, the force between two gravitational bodies, F = G*m1*m2/(r^2)

Therefore, assuming a constant cable size/density, we integrate
Integral[G*A*&*M/(x^2) dx] from R to R+D

This will be G*A*&*M*(1/R - 1/(R+D)) which equals G*A*&*M*D/(R*(R+D))

So the UTS is the "ultimate tensile strength", which refers to the tension at which a material fails. It is measured in Pascals, which is Newtons per square meter.

Which means
UTS = G*M*&*D/(R*(R+D)).

Now, we want to find the material that maximizes D. Solving for D, we get

D = R/ ( (G*M/R)*(&/UTS) - 1)

So we get G*M/R = 6.249x10^7
Therefore the smallest &/UTS will maximize D

Going to en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimate_tensile_strength and plugging in values, we see that the smallest ratio will be Polybenzoxazole (Zylon), which has:
UTS: 5800
density: 1.56 x 10^3

Thus, calculating our final D, we get..... 402546 meters, or 250.1 miles (pic related)
Unfortunately, geostationary orbit is at 22,236 miles. Roughly 88 times farther.

Remember, you also need a little bit of buffer and wiggle room. All the shear forces from the wind, and little stresses and deviations. You need a healthy margin of error.

Thus, you're going to need a density/UTS about 1/100 of what we can achieve now

No, but the gay porn posting FBI agents probably would.

Fuck off, FBI.

Not a bad idea, actually. Cheaper. But stabilizing the land/water under the supports is a bit of an issue.

Please, enlighten us.

This might help

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_tether

It must be so easy to prove it then.

I noticed Sup Forums talks about almost everything except for flat earth and the impact it would have of the world and our governments of it were true.

What are guys, pussy? Don't wanna talk about it? You scared of evolution and the Big Bang being dismantled and leaving you with no other option than God? You scared to give up the edgy life?

Prove this shit wrong. I've never seen it happen.

>it's a redditors think they know something about orbital mechanics because they read some elon musk tweets episode

How do you keep the ring from twisting around and knotting up your tethers?

For example if the ring were to rotate around the Earth perpendicular to the spinning motion, it would rip out the tethers or something right? I don't think Kevlar or steel could withstand that.

Is the plan to just use thrusters to keep the ring from veering too off course?

How do you keep the religion of peace, tolerance, and landing safely from flying planes into the tether?

sounds like some solar fucking roadways and EM drive bullshit.

how about we just invest $10 billion dollars into SpaceX and let them build the ITS.

Kek. Just bantz, btw. It's actually an interesting thread.