We dun goofed now boys if we get into nuclear war we are fucked

if you look up the us's most powerful icbm the b83 its only 1.2 mt and chinas dong feng nukes are 5 mt, with the way international politics are going we are underestimating our enemies, with obama disabling our nukes since these last 8 years and decommissioning ships we might be fucked. We are playing a dangerous game if we die blame obama if we are under armed in our weapons of mass destruction and aviation bombers and fast combat air craft. Trump shouldnt just jump in we should re arm
>inb4 dont underestimate the usa
you dont know how good chian has gotten technologically they might have gotten way better.

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>thinks nuclear war is settled by mt

we have more bombs than them and more targets decentralized.

I'm sure the US has all kinds of shit the people don't know about.

fpbp

doesnt even fucking matter the purpose of a nuke is to disable strategic targets, you dont need much more than 750kt like the w88s to do the job.

and it doesnt matter whats in stock if one country has ABM and the other dont

Those Chinese misslies will hit their own cities.

i hardly doubt we have thousands of castle bravos on launchers, our new strategy of nuke launching is the light weight b83 on b52's or standard bombers, thanks to its light weight we can launch it by some what of a large number. But if we dont have enough bombers to reach our target or the nuke bomber gets out of the sky we are sort out of options, we can easily get intercepted by high speed air craft if one of them is holding a nuke and gets shot down and the other planes scatter with no nukes what now

All China has to do is Throw a couple nukes at the super volcano in yellow stone and that takes out a huge chunk of the USA plus make aviation/bombing runs from the USA impossible with all the toxic dust in the air.

what is a MIRV?

fuck you kids are stupid - please go back

It's hard to believe that China could hit a single target on mainland USA let alone several.

China would be wiped off the map if the USA decided to launch.

motion to nuke nk super volcano and blame on kim

implying that tech from the 70s works fully

id confirms
d2f af

any ever play CMANO? I gamed a scenario with US v China. They lost bad. They landed about 3 on the west coast thru the THADD shield , while they got soaked with about 400 hits.

We got MIRVs that can carry a dozen warheads

wouldn't happen.

volcanoes dont erupt from nuclear blasts they collapse

link

True

like clockwork

youtube.com/watch?v=HWZXinRwCaE

Once you start getting into those really big nukes there isnt that much of a difference. strategically hitting areas with a few small nukes can do far more damage than one huge nuke. The US has already demonstrated to china that we can destroy their country with just a fraction of our nuclear arsenal.

are you retarded?

If we're lucky, China won't intervene. North Korea may be their allies, but they very frankly do not like the fact. I imagine that if any conflict were to arise, they would do everything in their power not to get involved.

many smaller yield munitions have better coverage than fewer larger yield munitions for the same cumulative yield.

Still, a nuke would hit the US way harder than it would China. Only a single nuke on New York would cripple the US beyond any repair.

It's just a little radiation smoothskin, I don't know what you're crying about.

this

designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-133.html

Payload up to 14 warheads

The Caldera is already about to erupt, there is some crust stopping it but Nukes would accelerate it.

>Only a single nuke on New York would cripple the US beyond any repair.

not really

and nukes dont target population centers because thats not strtegically important

they hit

1. ICBM sites
2. Strategic Air Command and Detection sites
3. Strategic Bomber Wing bases
4. Naval bases.
5. Civil leadership command points
6. Logistical centers (major aiports and shipyards)

in that order

nuclear war is very survivable on the macro scale.

Seriously why do you say "we" when you are clearly not a native speaker. Maybe u are murican but most likely some ruski or eurotrash

>Only a single nuke on New York would cripple the US beyond any repair.

Billshit.
When shit starts flying the military will be in they bunkers, striking ny will only kill a bunch of cucks, if anything its an impeovement

Sauce? Why was Herman Kain obsessed with megadeaths?

It does, it's why even missile defense is powerless in the face of an advanced warhead.

Ah yes that famed advanced chinese technology.
Scary stuff.

nuke blasts are relatively weak compared to the pressure already exerted by natural forces in the crust.

the main effect of a nuclear weapon is heat and EM. this heat effect has double the range of the air blast. fallout effect of the weapon is an area denial advantage.

Hehehe, and now google Zirkon missle and its speed and

ohh I'm so fucking scared we all know the chinks are great with technology and whites don't know what the fuck they're doing

nope seealso one nuke wouldn't do as much damage to a city as you might think(depending on the city). If they did decide to hit a city they would hit hit with many nukes.

>classified

We have 15MT's in Space. Along with shit that can deafen a entire country with a push of a button.

The real answer is that nobody really knows what would happen in a full scale nuke exchange, and not many people want to know either.

There was a staggering amount of theorycrafting on the power and proper use of conventional bombing before WW2, the majority of which ended up being unrealistic garbage. I think parallels can be drawn.

>Why was Herman Kain obsessed with megadeaths?

because it impresses new papers and politicians so he can get funding.

also pre 1950 strategic bombing including demoralizing civilian populations, that changed after we found out populations can produce the same amount of armament while only needing 10% of the workforce. Compared to 80% during WW2

source: SAC Atomic Weapons Requirements Study for 1959

>If they did decide to hit a city they would hit hit with many nukes.

because they dont target cities, they target infrastructure, logistical bottlenecks and command points

I like how Americans get butthurt when people say they'll lose or are actually touchable in war/combat

This. If they're built on silicon, the CIA probably has a back door.

still need to communicate with it

a blackout in new York cost 36m an hour, a nuker would perma the USA economy,but you awaken the jewbear

they don't have a back door. Countries like Russia and China create their own CPUs and I wouldn't be surprised if they had their own architecture. They go to great lengths to remain secure.

im not saying we wouldn't get our hair messed a little

no more than 20-30 million killed tops

>disrupting the blocked pressure of a volcano wouldn't cause it to erupt

> a nuclear blast can melt several hundred meters of crust

No

and this how you'd have to connect to their OS

>there isn't already pressure built up that isn't due to explode
>several hundred meters of crust
>yellowstone
no

its like you think the earths crust in like pizza crust...

lrn2geology

>there isn't already pressure built up that isn't due to explode

but thats what the whole planet is

>drop gravity nuke
>no launch detection to scare other countries into thinking we are launching a first strike nuclear attack against them

>a blackout in new York cost 36m an hour
It doesnt matter in a wartime.
Not at all.

All that petty shit with stocks, and markets, and lawyers circlejerking worthless green banknotes isnt worth shit when its about who's going to own the planet.

Real estate and rwal pgysical industry > all that jewish bullshit.

> not understanding that we live in 3 dimensions and a 10x10x10 block of crust is effectively 1000 m^3

Ye sure thing friend

Fuck this takes way too long. While we're dicking around around with menus, initiates, and enables, the incoming nuke would blow us sky high.

you saying america is a paper tiger?

time to reclaim the colonies! you owe alot of back taxes!!! :DDDDDD

>blackout

itll just be nigs looting stores and people getting shivved for canned food until the national guard starts shooting people.

>drop nuke on NK
>blame it on one of their botched nuke tests

yea but theyre in bunkers lol

its was never about defense

>gets btfo
>damage controls after a while

These guys are just butt hurt that China has a military advantage by nuking Yellow stone. They can even Double Fuck the USA by nuking that mountain in Africa and causing a 100 foot tsunami to hit the USA.

The US is time traveling.

this is why canada isnt allowed nukes

U.S. Carl Vinson Carrier Wasn’t on Way to North Korea

wsj.com/articles/u-s-carl-vinson-carrier-wasnt-on-way-to-north-korea-1492559713

> leafposting after being educated

waste of digits

another geology expert arrives

globalism is here fag, New York stock is global,the entire world will take a hit. the entire economical system of the world is based on the worthless greenback.

USA would have to recover failures which would seem improbable.
>In enemies hands...adds to booty of their war.

>It's a "I don't understand nuclear weapons" episode
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u forgot the shit in orbit

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-altitude_nuclear_explosion

Everything in the world is based on men with guns.
Your money and your shit wont be worth anything when men with guns say "hand it over"
The war will be about who owns the thing and runs the world. Green papers dont win anything.

>us's most powerful icbm the b83 its only 1.2 mt and chinas dong feng nukes are 5 mt
I read somewhere that modern nuclear strategy revolves around the idea that it's more effective to drop multiple smaller bombers than one large big bomb. Something about the cumulative damage of multipledispersed blasts being more effective than the equivalent megatonnage in a single blast due to how destructive energy is wasted being absorbed by the earth and into the air.

Also modern nuclear delivery systems are more accurate.

yea

thats why the men with guns work for the people with money.

let us handle the capitalism thing, we've had more practice at it

its smart because you have multiple warheads the enemy has to shoot down vs putting all ur eggs in fewer baskets.

China already stated many m00ns ago, to the world freshlings, that it would and can rain nukes down on US...homeland.

russiabro is right. fiat currency is intrinsically worthless.

Magma chambers are way too deep for any nuke

Their nuke carries 20
And bypasses us defence shield.

Nah man. We got shit that will just deactivate the atoms in their weapons. There's nothing to worry about.

does china have any of these

Nope, already stated it would rain down on USA...
>Implies coming from the skies

Nobody really needs bigger bombs.
>nuke the fleets
>nuke the bases
>nuke the strategic facilities
>come and take over the remaining valuble shit

Theres no point in extermination of civillian population. Its better to crush their military and make them work for you.

Modern ICBMs have like 20 warheads not because we want to flatten entire Texas, but because only a few of them are real targeting the strategic facilities and the rest of them are decoys to confuse the interception

>does china have emp
no shit. everyone does

more like spit in a bucket

those THAADs have a pretty high success rating

This.

let me know when they get the big boy toys

like lasers and THAAD

You have ZERO control over Chinas space program.
>Little knowledge.

We also have better targeting systems. We don't need as big of nukes because we can hit within a much smaller radius.

I don't think any of you understand. It doesn't matter who has the most nukes at this point, everyone's got enough to destroy modern civilization many times over. The lack of options in a nuclear strike is what makes it so scary, they're hard to shoot down, relatively inexpensive to make, extremely deadly and have massive range.

If a nuclear war were to start the world would be pretty damn near fucked

Localised weather change, massive heat fluxes, irreparable damage to the ecosystem, mass dead and panic. Huge civil resources lost. These are just some of the certain outcomes of a nuclear war.

plus there is so much redundancy many missles will be destroyed by other missles going off and frying them.

thats why its good to launch in smaller clusters

>thats why the men with guns work for the people with money.
Actually its the other way around.
People with money depend on men with guns. Because the men with guns can make them, and they cant do shit.

Why do you think murrican dollar is even worth anything at all?
Because if you dont use it you end up like Gaddhaffi. Entire global economic system is backed up by men with guns.

your a moron

ABMD systems in the US are top mint

China has ZERO AMBD

>winning a nuclear war
Are you fucking retarded?
>Well everything is fucking irradiated rubble now, but we killed more of them so we won! Take that, fuckers!

Moron whos knows for an absolute fact, YOU HAVE ZERO CONTROL OF CHINAS SPACE PROGRAM OR THEIR CAPABILITIES.

>Implies Korean showcase.
>Implies muricas full of shit.
lel

Cool story bro

>presents CGI movie of single warhead missile as evidence that MIRVs work as designed every time.

>giving a fuck about ICBMs when you have a fucking fleet of nuclear missile subs that could be chilling a stone's throw from Shanghai ready to glass every chink when the order is given