US Navy new helicopter will be expensive as fuck

>heavy lift King Stallion helicopter will be more expensive than F-35 per unit
>200 units for 31 billion $
>20% increase for each unit, from 115 mil to 138 mil $

At least it looks nice.

bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-04-17/lockheed-marine-helicopter-came-with-unpublicized-cost-increase

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That's not true. Trump is the best dealmaker. Our helicopters are the cheapest and the best. I have no facts or data to back up my claims. You're a liar. Fake news. Try shilling somewhere else.

what's so good about it?

kek

Kinda looks like our old merlins. teched up a bit.

Why do these things cost so much? Is it because of the materials? (((Patents)))? (((Profits)))? (((Research)))? All of the above?

Fuck off you cucked shill faggot. Trump is the best. Trump is your lord. You will bow down to Him.

(((Suppliers))) who just happen to be friends with (((people))) signing the (((deals))).

>The aircraft, designated the CH-35K, will be capable of lifting 27,000 pounds (12,246 kilograms.) It will be the same size as its predecessor, the Super Stallion, but able to haul triple the cargo

Pretty good

Rest of the world BTFO

This is why America will lose war. It's overpriced shit just like F-35.

I GOTTA GET ME ONE OF THESE!!!

While Mi-26 costs just 25 millions.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mil_Mi-26

Most of those dollars go to secret projects, faggot. Like lasers and flying triangles and shit.

I sexually identify as an attack helicopter, and that's just porn thumbsup.jpg

pffft ours is 100,000,000 times more better though, stupid ruskie

Still not enough to make lifting tanks in an amphib scenario doable

fuck being tied to LCACs

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Thats just a merlin isnt it?

Looks nice, but how many sand monkeys/minute can it kill compared to the old model?

There use to be dozens of American companies building hardware. Now its been consolidated down to a few huge ones, no suprise they jacked up prices, there is hardly any compeitition left.

In the 60s the DoD could put out a tender proposal and get 20 companies all submitting designs. Today, Boeing or Raytheon make a new product and call the Pentagon and say "Umm buy this ok? 600 gorillion dollars pls"

and the Pentagon response?

>o..o... ok

Its just a transport same as MI-26 I have mentioned above.

Not surprised. Costs for...stuff in the west are fucked.

It doesn't kill sand monkies, it moves around men and gear that may or may not be for killing sand monkies depending on the mission.

Murreens will use it

"can i copy your homework?"

"Yeah just change it up a bit so it doesn't look obvious you copied"

"ok"

>Today, Boeing or Raytheon make a new product and call the Pentagon and say "Umm buy this ok? 600 gorillion dollars pls"
The vast majority of unsolicited proposals go into the garbage can. Remember when faggots were talking about the B-1R as if it were a real thing? That's an example. Boeing probably bent the ear of a congressman who went on to waste the time of military men, these military men promptly went back to ignoring the congressman and doing their business as normal.

It looks hideous honestly
>that profile
>those ducts

Stallion has a long history predating the AW101

youtube.com/watch?v=Ac7G7xOG2Ag

Isn't the one on the right like 20 years older though

Relax lad you're trying too hard.

>we didnt know it was invisible

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA EPIC

We literally used them in the Falklands in the 80's

I don't see what your point is. Ooh wow they both have a cockpit at the front and a rotor at the back! There's only so many ways you can build a helicopter.

Even then, the CH-53K is designed to lift loads almost 3 times heavier than the Merlin so they aren't even the same class of helicopter so not comparable

That Merlin is a nice looking helicopter. You've won this round Britain, but your carriers are gay as fuck.

lmao says the Serbuck who got BTFO by America less then 20 years ago.

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>35 year old technology
Good thing your current enemies bought all your old shit or you might be in trouble.

>rare
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I bet you think all asians have the same face. Right?

Why doesn't the DoD just do it all themselves?
Contracting implicitly equals more bureaucracy, middle-men profits, and higher costs. I've also never thought it was a good idea to have our military hardware designed by third parties who could "lose" the plans onto the black market or mysteriously wind up as clones for foreign militaries.

How many commies can it lift in one go?

What does this have to do with Trump?

Looks like the article is talking about a 6.9% cost increase in an existing project. Maybe you should direct your cynicism at Lockheed?

Apart from the frames that are almost indistinguishable

I'm reminded of hearing about how a single bolt from (((Lockheed Martin))) costs fucking $50.

what? the first one wasn't even produced until like the 90s

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Serbia is 1.1/10 rarity

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mil_Mi-26

do you ivans unironically believe that you make better military hardware than the US?

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Im not having a go you still have the superior army son

I work for one of the big defense firms.
Everybody hates Lockheed Martin.

They win contracts because they spend more on lobbying than anyone else. Not just in the industry, but as a whole.
They spend more on lobbying than big pharma, big oil, or big finance.

The get these contracts for way less than they're actually worth, then include language in them that provides avenues for recouping actual costs later.
They justify it as "research and development."

They're not mass produced like cars. There is probably some sort of assembly line, but nowhere near what you'd see for cars/appliances. Also, the government has deep pockets they know this (e.g. look up $900 hammers and $600 toilet seats.)

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looks like a retarded sea stallion

America is 21 000 000 000 000 deep in the hole.
Hey lets buy helicopters who cost 138 000 000 each.
Sure thun good idea prez Trump.

This is a big part of it.

Do you unironically believe that this helicopter is 5 times better than the Russian equivalent?

Is this a jet engine Sup Forums?

Whole thing has to be surrounded in plasma for it to work, you'd have to create a double layer containing the craft.

OK, they have aerodynamic pods for their undercarriage like most helicopters, they have their exhausts on top like virtually every helicopter, both have two rotors like virtually every helicopter,

>Everybody hates Lockheed Martin
Success breads jealousy right

It's the chem trail dispenser.

I think Soviet Mi-26 lifts more (and is much cheaper).

sea-king, I should've written

it's got a wheelchair ramp

They look nothing alike

kys

>Afghanistan Chinook recovery[edit]
>In the spring of 2002, a civilian Mi-26 was leased to recover two U.S. Army MH-47E Chinook helicopters from a mountain in Afghanistan. The Chinooks, operated by the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment, had been employed in Operation Anaconda, an effort to drive al Qaeda and Taliban fighters out of the Shahi-Kot Valley and surrounding mountains. They found themselves stranded on the slopes above Sirkhankel at altitudes of 2,600 metres (8,500 ft) and 3,100 metres (10,200 ft). While the second craft was too badly damaged to recover, the first was determined to be repairable and estimated to weigh 12,000 kilograms (26,000 lb) with fuel, rotors, and non-essential equipment removed. That weight exceeded the maximum payload of 9,100 kilograms (20,100 lb) at an altitude of 2,600 metres (8,500 ft) of the U.S. military's Sikorsky CH-53E.[4]

>The Mi-26 was located through Skylink Aviation in Toronto, which had connections with a Russian company called Sportsflite that operated three civilian Mi-26 versions called "Heavycopters". One of the aircraft, aiding in construction and firefighting work in neighboring Tajikistan, was leased for $300,000; it lifted the Chinook flew it to Kabul, then later to Bagram Air Base, Afghanistan to ship to Fort Campbell, Kentucky, U.S. for repairs. Six months later, a second U.S. Army CH-47 that had made a hard landing 100 miles (160 km) north of Bagram at an altitude of 1,200 metres (3,900 ft) was recovered by another Sportsflite-operated Mi-26 Heavycopter.[4]

Embarrassing DESU

The stallion was built in the early 80s britbong, your was built in 99.

america is paved with money, i don't give a shit about the price tag as long as we have an insurmountable advantage in destroying continents

That's a sexy chopper

What does Trump have to do with this?

this, id rather my tax dollars go to keeping our military on the cutting edge then socialist programs and gibs

On the other hand, we won't need to replace our vintage Sea Kings from the 60's with these. We just have to paint our old shit with white paint.

Yes, but the exhaust isn't used for thrust like on pic related
Instead, the rotating bit of the jet engine is attached to a transmission which is then attached to the big rotor on top and the little rotor at the end.

Fundamentally, there is no difference between the engines the helicopter has and the engines an airliner has

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The CH-53K is based off the CH-53E which came basically a decade before the Merlin. Nice try but if anyone copied someone it was you Teeb shit.

a gas turbine

Lockheed posted earnings about 3 times ours, but at least our contracts come out on time and on budget.

>how does the U.S. fund black projects you never hear about?
>you don't think they really pay $900 for a hammer or $200 for a toilet seat, do you?

How many communists can it hold?

If it ain't broke, don't fix it

fucking gold

So butthurt they had to use a Russian civvie craft, that they're throwing hundreds of billions at the problem.

>Soviet Mi-26
As of 2016, the Mi-26 still holds the Fédération Aéronautique Internationale world record for the greatest mass lifted to 2,000 metres (6,562 ft) – 56,768.8 kilograms (125,153.8 lb) on a flight in 1982.[11]

HMMMM

Unironically, I think they do

They make the coolest stuff though

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Had me right up until the supersonic part. No way that airframe can break the Mach barrier.

Only thing that matters is money loser

The workers so they keep their trap shut.

If it's suspended in plasma double layer it doesn't eat any effects of friction.

that's great that the cossacks have a heli that can lift heavy stuff but since i have no idea how those 2 chinooks got stranded, i'm not sure you're making a cogent point

>indistinguishable

The Merlin has a much larger nose.

More wasted billions. Who do you excited fucks think they had to borrow the money from, digging themselves further into debt? Another reason why they're winning.

found the non-swiss, status-obsessed pleb

Oh wow... you shot down one fucking plane out of 40,000 of sorties! Congrats! You won the war!

53E are old as fuck. It's way beyond replacement time. They were supposed to be replaced but we all got excited about the V 22 instead. 53K is a beast and can carry more internal and lift more external and move faster.

53E are cool as fuck but when I was in Afg they were leaking hydro everywhere and it was considered normal.

>success

Let me tell you about a recent dealing between our tax dollars and lockheed----

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_VH-71_Kestrel

tl;dr: lockheed was filling an order for 28 @ 13 billion, but usgov cut it to 9 for 4.4 billion, then almost immediately, we sell them to canada for a mere $164 MILLION (with an M) to use as replacement parts for an entirely different aircraft.

Mixed in with all of this is constant lockheed lobbying to keep spending those billions, regardless of the program obviously failing.

>money is being wasted
>US is going into debt
>he doesn't know about our petrodollar trick

>53E are cool as fuck but when I was in Afg they were leaking hydro everywhere and it was considered normal.

That sounds absolute awful, expensive replacement but it seems worth it.