Why does pol hate immigration? If it wasn't for German immigrants...

Why does pol hate immigration? If it wasn't for German immigrants, huge swaths of the country would be almost uninhabited.

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Wanna know the difference?
>Germans show up and farm, homesteading, n' shit
Meanwhile every new immigrant population we've had since the late 1800's, starting with Jews and Southern Europeans
>go straight to cities and fuel industrial and financial capitalism while bring crime (Italians) and Socialism (Jews).
If your ancestors didn't come here and build a farm/homestead/business from scratch you're not an American. Plus from 1965 to (((current year))) immigration went from 90% European (INCLUDING Jews, Southern Europeans, etc) to 10% today. Yeah maybe I just don't want to be replaced and become a hated minority in the country my ancestors built with their bare hands.

Sorry amigo, it's too late. We're already likely below 50% at this point if you don't count Hispanics as white. Move back to Europe with the rest of us

Nothing wrong with German immigrants.

>giving up
I'm just hoping the coming conflict happens before I'm an old man but after my children get to live a semi-normal childhood.

my ancestors were german but they didn't farm they just ran cigarmaking sweatshops

We're talking a population here. Obviously not all Germans were farmers/homesteaders, we're just talking proportions.

giving up? that's not it, ese, it's just that the battleground is shifting. can you bear to see the land of your ancestors be bastardized and degraded?

>implying having less people is a bad thing

If war broke out in German, France, or any other European country and it was natioanlists vs. foreign invaders and commies I'd sign up for that fight in a minute. America is my country though, it's where I intend to find a decent woman, have a decent career, have a large family, and defend it.

GOOD.

This too. Due to the 1965 immigration act there's an additional 70 million people, most non-white, that wouldn't be here otherwise.

>white immigrants

Germans are white, and probably the most superior of all whites. /thread

I only hate immigration from non-white countries.
>dude look at these statistics bro... hardworking white immigrants made america great!
>yeah bro awesome lets import a shitton of lazy spics and niggers maybe that'll work too!!1

>diaspora Germans were smart enough to move further inland so that niggers and mexicans couldn't get to them

It's not just a work ethnic issue. It's much more than that.

>If your ancestors didn't come here and build a farm/homestead/business from scratch you're not an American.

Y'know what? As someone who is a recent immigrant, I agree with you completely. As a matter of fact, I am going to permanently take that along with me. My new definition of an "American" is what you've just said.

We don't, we hate non-white/non-CulturallyEuropean immigrants.

*work ethic

The stipulation is still that you have to be of European heritage (no meds and kikels allowed)

I can respect the sentiment of wanting to stay. But no matter what you're going to be a minority, and your children will never know a homogeneous environment. The American experiment was a good one, but IMO it's time to return to the motherland.

You think American can't be balkanized? In the event of a yugoslavian style break up and subsequent war the pockets of non-whites will for the most part move to the south and south west. States that are at least 80% white here will probably end up like 90% or more white and hopefully they'll form a second American nation.

That map is outdated

+ "American" means mostly British
+ "Irish" often means partially British
+ British, Irish or American is the second largest group in huge areas of that map

People who fall for the "America is German" meme need to read more

I do not think America will split up in our lifetimes. It's just not realistic. And even if it did, what makes you think racial groups would monolithicly move to one part of the country? The racial landscape doesn't change based on region anymore for the most part, it's really based on urbanization. All the nonwhites would move to the cities.

Realistically, returning to Europe is the best option for ethnonationalists. One of the problems with America is that people don't think in terms of ethnicity or demographics here. The popular view is that it was founded off of ideas and ethnicity doesn't matter. If you actually care about this stuff you should go back to Europe where nations are actually founded around shared culture and heritage. There's a reason Germany is called "Deutschland" or land of the Germans, and not "The United Provinces of Central Europe."

>let me tell you about your country

>I do not think America will split up in our lifetimes. It's just not realistic.
You underestimate the shit storm that's coming.
>And even if it did, what makes you think racial groups would monolithicly move to one part of the country? The racial landscape doesn't change based on region anymore for the most part, it's really based on urbanization. All the nonwhites would move to the cities.
Again, I think you're underestimate just how racial things have potential of getting. Black and hispanic groups already see themselves in this light, Asians more so now too, etc. It wouldn't be completely along ethnic lines but people already self segregate, what makes you think when whites are an absolute minority that the masses of non-whites, who already vote more in block than whites do, won't start picking apart the white "suburban and rural tards"?
>Realistically, returning to Europe is the best option for ethnonationalists. One of the problems with America is that people don't think in terms of ethnicity or demographics here. The popular view is that it was founded off of ideas and ethnicity doesn't matter. If you actually care about this stuff you should go back to Europe where nations are actually founded around shared culture and heritage. There's a reason Germany is called "Deutschland" or land of the Germans, and not "The United Provinces of Central Europe."
The problem is that I, and most white Americans, are mutts of half a dozen European ethnicities. Unless they're desperate for bodies they're better off without us.

He's right though

>You underestimate the shitstorm that's coming
If you're implying there's gonna be a race war, sorry I just don't believe that will happen. You're right that non-white groups tend to see themselves as a group more than whites. Black pride, asian pride, hispanic pride etc are socially acceptable and seen as good, while European pride is one of the worst things you can have to most people.(see image) The effect this has is that most whites are self-hating, and would never organize on the basis of race on a large basis. If there is something coming, we're not gonna be on top, parce.

>they're better off without us
In an ideal world, maybe. But European mutts are a hell of a lot better than Jamal. One of the main excuses leaders like Angela Merkel give for accepting mass immigration is that birth rates among native Europeans are falling, and to maintain economic growth immigration is needed. If Americans would migrate back to Europe we could effectively boost the native birth rate (what I mean is if an american breeds with a german, it's an ethnic german as apposed to if Jamal from Afghanistan does it's not). IMO they are desperate for bodies

See, I don't like your negative bullshit attitude. You're no better then the people who cuck out about
>I'm white and have white privilege
Or the cuckservatives that grovel at the feet of minorities to prove that "democrats are the real racists". There's going to be ethnic conflict. Maybe you're too young or too new but this stuff goes in cycles. The fact that things like the "alt-right" even exist is an indication of that, although in it's current form it's been subverts by people like (((Milo))) and the like.

Also Europeans, if they got their shit together, would be better off having children of their own rather than bringing in hordes of white Americans that would have to learn their language, customs, etc.

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Is that that same thing I posted but just as a webm?

Maybe my attitude is negative, but it doesn't fucking matter. The fact is that America is not white anymore. The percentage drops every year with immigration and sky high racial mixing. I'm operating based on the demographic reality and what is probable to happen in the future.
>there is going to be ethnic conflict
If so, it's going to be one sided. Do you actually think whites are going to put up a real resistance? Or do you think the vast majority of people are going to be apologists for the other side?

There has never been a real ethnic conflict in America in modern times, or at least enough to shift demographics. The idea of a restored America is a delusion. I know it's nice to hang out in Sup Forums and pretend that massive demographic shifts are going to happen in favor of whites, but it won't. I may have a shitty attitude about it but it's fucking true. I say salvage what we can and return to where we came from.
Again, in an ideal world they would. But the fact of the matter is that their birth rates are below replacement level and dropping. Non-internal european immigration isn't going to stop. Sure, nationalists like LePen may win here or there but the current trends aren't going to stop. There are going to be people replacing the native Europeans no matter what, and it would be much better if it were white americans than arabs and sub saharan africans.

You keep insisting that white people are just a bunch of push over faggots. Whites in America could be 30% of the population and I'd still put my money on my people in an all out war. You act like all white people are upper middle class yuppies or something.

I'm speaking from my experience interacting with normies. And you know what? Frankly, most whites that I meet are fucking push-overs in racial terms. They actually believe that race and heritage doesn't matter, and welcome "diversity." Actually, apart from older generations I don't know anyone who DISAGREES with that, even self avowed conservatives.

And again, there will be no all out war! There's never been a race war in America and there never will be. Racial clashes under the guise of something else (like the police/black lives matter conflict) is one thing, but again most whites will come out against themselves when it comes time to take a side.

Ah, so you're basing this off of your own anecdotal experience? I bet a lot of people saw Germans as push overs too since they let commies run the gambit on them. You're either a shill or projecting your own shit

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Why did Germans like Oklahoma so much? Both of my parent's families have German ancestry in them.

>Why does pol hate immigration?


See: latimes.com/local/california/la-me-census-latinos-20150708-story.html

>It's official: Latinos now outnumber whites in California

I'm basing it off what mainstream whites believe, which isn't hard to find out if you consume any media or even talk to anyone...

What I assume you mean by the second sentence is that communists ran Germany for a while but then they elected the Nazis, and you're comparing that to what you think will happen here in America. That's not an intellectually honest comparison IMO.
Ethnonationalist philosophy was much much much more socially acceptable and common in Germany pre-WWII than they are in America now. As I've been saying, mainstream America does not accept that, and will never devolve into a race-based conflict. I'm not a fucking shill for saying this, I'm just trying to lay out a realistic vision of what's going to happen.

I have a question for you: granted that whites are going to be an ever shrinking and villified/persecuted minority in America (a la South Africa) why would you choose to leave your legacy here? Don't you have a responsibility to your children and future generations to raise them in a safe homogeneous environment where they can prosper?

Debunked. Stop making these threads

Fuck off shill. You're basing your perception off of your little anecdotes and the very propaganda driven perception of white Americans that you admit is bullshit.

>South Dakota
>Ethiopia

WEW

You're deluded. Enough with the "muh white race will perservere" shit, fucking look outside! Talk to a normal person and you will quickly find that the vast majority of white americans would gladly watch their race keel over and die. You're better than this. Be fucking realistic instead of hiding in a hugbox trying to pretend that everything's going to be okay.

Yeah, there's this funny tendency for them to put the most foreign groups in the whitest states possible

Fuck off spic

If there was civil war the races will Balkanize homogenously, whites will stick together.

And you're clearly from fucking Maryland or something. You're not intune with white America. If you really think your average white American has no sense of themselves you're a fool. The common culture is one that shame this thought process so of course it'll fail but your average white American is more aware of race than you give them credit. Of course it won't be explicitly racial and I never claimed that but race/ethnicity will be a large component. It'll mostly be rural vs urban America. The biggest thing keeping white people complacent is that when a neighborhood goes bad they still have somewhere to go because they have the money and ability to do that. When their children's stomachs are empty and rumbling and a figure comes out with all the answers, do you really think they'll be that worried about coming off as " a little racist"? The future of white America and salvaging what we have left is in the inevitable social and economic decline with hyper inflation.

what is this tendency on Sup Forums for calling everyone who disagrees on a specific viewpoint a shill? I don't come on that often but it's so fucking tiring to be called a shill when I'm just trying to discuss this with you. We're both white nationalists for fucks sake.

IMHO the problem with Sup Forums is that it's an insular hugbox. We will never make any progress ideologically if we refuse to acknowledge facts and work off of that.

That was my point

Blacks and mestizos have 0 culture or anything in common with white population, completely different nations and tribes.

Far larger differences differences between China and Sweden than between a white "American" and a black "American", there is 0 hope of holding this barely 40 year of racial integration.

You're probably right, I'm not in tune with the average viewpoint of a rural American. Actually I think you're right that there will be some sort of rural-urban conflict, we've already seen a bit of that in the election. But do you really think that there will be any major change as a result of it? let alone the balkanization of america. Rural populations are by definition outnumbered and less powerful than the urban/coastal areas. If anything of that sort does happen I think it will be immediately jumped on by the media and urban whites and called a white supremacist uprising, comparable to the rise of the Nazis in '30s Germany. It's not realistic with the way things are going.

Are you drunk?

This is independant of political affiliation if "supremacy", this is of natural separations that are not chosen as actions against others are.

Maybe because you used a Spanish word while talking to him?

Any ways this guy is right, the white man has been carrying the weight of all minorities since the Italians arrived and the back has almost broken

bot??

There won't be any political ideas only natural feelings of natural separations.

shill

Blacks will Balkanize with blacks and whites will Balkanize with whites the ones pouring foreigners into this want more chaos.

Holy fuck, you're just a depressing little faggot, aren't you? Also you think urbanites are the ones with all the power? Fucking lmao dude. The champagne socialists can have fun with their pet nigs and beaners in the cities while having t have armed escorts every time they leave their cities because they'll get shot at by Cletus and Jebediah who both have five deployments under their belts.

la raza blanca no puede prevalecer en los estados unidos cabrron. pero, sangre alemana corre por mis venas, gracias a mi madre y dios

Wheat are you talking about you retard?
This is about biological incompatibility that will explode this not ideological non sense.

Really wish people would stop posting this retarded meme map.

>Nebraska straight German until 1990
I need to go back.

Except that he's completely right.

America is not a white nation, get over it. If you hate non-whites so much go fuck off to iceland while the rest of the world continues to advance.

Yeah, I do think urbanites are the ones with all the power. And the second part of your post will probably fucking happen, just like in south africa. I seem depressing because I'm being realistic about this shit. As I've been saying, if you actually want to live in a country where you're not a persecuted minority move to Europe.

That won't happen, USA will Balkanize with the 200 million white population cohabitating and living white lives while walking the foreigners until moral and just concerns us is reached on what to do with the foreign population.

Sup Forums doesn't hate immigration. Sup Forums hates shitskins.

If all of the Swedish Democrats, National Front, Alternative for Deutschland, Afrikaners wanted to move to America I imagine we'd be stoked.

>advance
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH oh wow

Walling*

and you probably look just like every other mestizo with some euro blood..

Urbanites only have financial power and democratic power. Those two things don't really matter when the shooting starts. What matters is food, resources, local support, and freedom of movement.

no soy indio!! malparido hijueputa

White people wont be looking at urban or rural nor rich or poor but simply white or not in regards to organization and grouping.

I disagree

Fpbp. I don't know why this is so hard for people to understand.

Hahahaha coming from a dirty Panamanian. I've been to your shithole country many times and I keep laughing at how fucking awful it is. How many traffic lights do you have to not stop at because of potential carjacking? Or casco viejo, which should be your best tourist destination but is really just full of dirty homeless crack heads? Or the countless homeless shacks on the side of your highways. I could go on and on about how fucking poor and awful your country is before I even touched on your interior shitness. Go bow to your Columbian lords faggot.

Sure. But again I'm saying the likelihood of a general uprising against the urbanites with a result that would balkanize the country is very small. I know it's a nice thought, but something like that would immediately be stamped out.

Anyways, I think this is besides the point. My argument is that America will continue to be a sub-optimal place for whites to be, and our homeland is under siege by an enemy we've been at war with for 1300 years. I appreciate the sentiment of holding your ground, but to me duty calls, mi hermano.

Good grazing land for livestock, good farmland. Also oil, and an abundance of minerals for mining.