is Schizophrenia just demonic possession?
How come Schizos only hear/see frightening/negative images and sounds?
How come they never hallucinate beautiful images or comfy sounds?
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what do you think Sup Forums? is this just a product of our atheist society? is it diagnosed as a mental illness by kike shrinks or is it really demonic possession and could be cured by an exorcism?
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basically you are dreaming while you are awake
It's intense paranoia induced by narcissism induced by bad parenting.
Normal people have a system in their brain that can see meaning in meaningful stimuli, and relationships between those stimuli.
Paranoid schizos see meaning in everything despite the fact that that meaning does not exist (e.g., my toast came out too dark so the devil is ruining my life)
I'm actually a medfag doing psychiatry residency. Most of what you said is false. Many schizophrenics describe hearing pleasant, complementary, or otherwise interesting voices
>describe hearing pleasant, complementary, or otherwise interesting voices
do you have any data like percentage of those affected by negative stimuli vs those affected by positive stimuli?
it's a genetic disorder you retard
>It's intense paranoia induced by narcissism induced by bad parenting.
the only schizo i know has about 4 siblings all normal people, she used to play with the ouija board a lot and then developed this, she had a job and everything then started with the paranoia and hallucinations
Some schizos do hear see and hear nice things, in fact in Poo in Loo Land, it's more common for it to be nice and friendly.
Source: a class I took 10 years ago
I wish they were nice to me. I see huge fucking bugs that will crawl into view and hear voices that mock me from behind walls and doors. I hate my brain so fucking much, I can't trust anyone anymore.
>Sup Forums
>politics
Definitely demons
Let me tell a story about my mom
My mom saw things since she was 8
In the beginning he was friendly
And very good
She became a medium, the most famous in town
She talked to spirits and things
They all seemed nice
They appeared in all white
Then my mom abandons this
She felt that even though the spirits treated her right, something was not ok
A feeling of danger, and evil
She became Christian
These same spirits that appeared to her in all white and was good
Transformed into horrible beasts that tormented her day and night
This happened for years
They wanted her to go back at being a medium
She didn't gave in
Jesus cleaned her
Sometimes months passes without her seeing anything
God allows it sometimes so she can see who's with the devil and who isn't
I have more personal stories if you wanna hear it
Do you go to church? What's your denomination?
wow so does environment affect this mental disorder?
like if you have the genetic disorder but live in a mostly positive environment you would most likely hallucinate positive things?
if you would hallucinate positive things would that be bad?
Man that girl is pretty.
she looks like jacky evancho
>Do you go to church? What's your denomination?
Catholic, haven't been to church in a while
schizosin other countries have typically nice voices and hallucinations. it differs depending on the culture
I see a lot of people commenting this, it is a redpill for me
kind of makes me think that if religious people tried DMT or LSD would it take them closer to god or take them further away from him?
I didn't realize this
>The inverted cross in his forehead is satanic
Written Messiah
She's having visions of the Antichrist.
Further
You get closer to God by praying, singing to him, going to church, observing and obeying his law
You don't get close to him by drugging yourself
It's not different than getting drunk
The ind is made up of the concious and unconcious mind. The unconcious holds the self which is your true self and it also contains your shadow. Schizos are people who have ignored their unconcious mind for to long that now its appearing in tge concious whenever it pleases. In order to avoid this you must realize what the dark forces in you want and try to appease them some how.
Actually the self is separate from both or it at least tries to be.
goatse
Consciousness is not as clear cut as people think. There is consciousness everywhere. There are beings all around us that are invisible. We are invisible to them. Like humans some are good some are malevolent and some are a mix. We can't interact with or sense them physically but we can psychically under certain conditions. Most of these beings are not even complete individuals, they are like psychic parasites and they cannot exist separate from us. Insanity, dreams, shamanic rituals and hallucinogens essentially open the doorway between our worlds. Sometimes these beings help or hurt people. Every culture has a tradition regarding how to interact with and (if need be) control them. These range from good things like exorcism to diabolical witchcraft.
I would recommend reading Transcendental Magic by Eliphas Levi, the Three Books by Agrippa, and The Secret Teachings of All Ages by Manly P. Hall if you want to know more about this stuff. Aleister Crowley is also interesting.
Am I schizo? I don't exactly see or hear shit but I have an insane level of paranoia that makes world seem like some kind of surreal non-stop horror show
The only thing that stops me from an heroing is the fact that I'm also terrified of whatever the afterlife could be
IF I have bouts of paranoia and feelings of "what the fuck, this isn't real life", am I a schizo or just breaking the conditioning?
I would recommend you sit in a bitch black room with a flame burning and just sit and meditate. Let your mind go and then try to control it
Were you raised by a single mother? I'm not making a negative assumption, I'm genuinely curious so I can gain further insight into what you're going through. It might be similar to what I'm experiencing.
If not a single mother, what were your parents like?
Work on psych unit. Read that horrible visions and negative voices is a western culture thing and schizos from africa/india hallucinate positive voices angels, god, friendly spirits and relatives. Can comfirm a few straight out of africa blacks who spend more time laughing and dancing with their hallucinations. Does not apply to us blacks though.
Your not allowing the Great Mother archytype seep through your concious so She is attacking you with horrid thoughts.
This desu
Schizophrenia is democracy of the mind.
No, schizophrenia is almost non existent in low-IQ persons. Look into IQ and mental illness. It will activate your almonds
Fuck this describes me well
I had two parents, better than most i know but we're pretty impatient and agro when I was little (they were young parents), they tell me they feel bad about it tho
Nothing fucked up that I remember, most of the shit I'm paranoid about comes from freakin pol itself
they don't want you to you learn about schizophrenia. they only call it a "illness" but what it really is is a powerful latent psychic power
>poo in Loos have higher chi and connection to the godhead
>pleasant schizo effects
MAKES ME THINK
Are people aware they are developing schizophrenia?
I am becoming increasingly paranoid and have an invasive voice sometimes but I know the voice is coming from inside my head.
>demons
"Entities," "aliens," and haunting images are thoughts over which you do not have control.
This chick is looking for attention. Schizophrenia is more like your subconscious that you think is real. You don't see floating eyes and shit, you hear voices and imagine something is something it isn't. It's tied with paranoia. You can't tell the difference between a thought and reality.
>tfw I never really had a real mother
Is this connected?
I guess you guys have never known a schizo very intimately. I deal on a day to day basis with an autist as well as a schizo, both are mentally defective and get free money for being so. Schizophrenia is basically autism spectrum with the addition of paranoia and possible hallucinations. Interacting with people of both disorders is no different. If you do a little research you will find that researchers have come to find that the areas of the brain which malfunction in autism, do so in schizophrenia albeit in slightly different ways. Many people who have autism develop late onset schizophrenia. It has nothing to do with intelligence level etc.
Then that's nurture. Tell her to eat properly, drink more water, and sleep better. If she has stress in her life, like an abusive husband, or bad children, she needs to fix that. If that doesn't work, she needs to see a (((doctor))).
>trying to explain sleep paralysis to someone who believes in demonic possesion
I doubt it's demon possession considering all schizos have similar brains that are widely different to brains belonging to mentally healthy people.
I had a girlfriend for a few months that had paranoid schizophrenic very bad, and she had a habit of taking more adderall than she was supposed to and she would just be absolutely insane at times. She once told me that one night while I was sleeping in her room with her that a little government drone (like a civilian hobby drone) flew into the open window of her bedroom and left a note that she better leave me or I'll be dead. That scared the shit out of me (that she would kill me in psychosis, not the gov) so I left and never talked to her again. The sex and blowjobs were fucking amazing, she had moves like a professional pornstar, but I learned why there is a saying to never stick your dick in crazy.
>schizophrenia is a powerful psychic power
Yeah, thinking everybody is trying to poison you really comes in handy...
>How come they never hallucinate beautiful images or comfy sounds?
they do thats how it starts for some
Hallucinations are an indicator of a mental disorder or mental illness. See my previous post, or a doctor.
do you now understand why (((modern art))) by (((women))) is twisted sick and evil, and why women belong in burkas to shield them from the world?
take the final red pill Sup Forums
Well they're right, we are getting poisoned all the time.
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Fuck off, small-minded little cuck.
dumb
My hallucinations start with smelling imaginary dogshit, rotten food and vomit smells everywhere.. I don't think that's psychic power.
It might be. Just realize you have a male part and a female part in your mind and your job is to unite these parts along with others and yourself into your concious mind. Start reading Jung and meditate a bit
Recently been seeing bugs crawl on my bed at night, but there aren't any when i look for them. Hopefully I'm not going insane.
off-topic, but related: People with schizophrenia who are deaf from birth will hallucinate amputated hands signing obscene/horrific things at them
It might feel like you've become aware of something(a voice, a pattern etc). You aren't sure if it's real but you sure do perceive it.
This experience together with a strong emotions engraves itself as a "modus operandi" in your subconscious and emerges from time to time together with the auditory/visual hallucinations.
the kind of hallucinations one might see or hear ,wether they're good or bad ,depends alot on the culture,society and other enviromental factors. Our society is very hectic and fast , we're being bombarded daily by ads,news,work whereas in Poo the Loo the poor people struggle but using their whole lives for it. By being overloaded with all these one functions in the β-brainwaves which stimulate for sympathetic activity,fight or flight,cortisol release which is a stress hormone and causes inflammation. By being in these states the hallucinations will always seem like a threat to ones mind and thus may take a distorted and fearsome look. Our natural state of mind is in the α-brainwaves , we should be in said state constantly unless real danger is anticipated. In a culture that is more connected with nature , prays conciously to God daily and is aware , a schizo wont find his hallucinations as dangerous and thus may interact with them. Definately though when said schizo comes face to face with a real thread his hallucinations will also be scary
>How come they never hallucinate beautiful images or comfy sounds?
Some of them are.
I am pretty sure schitzos can hear pleasant things in their hallucinations
your shit is broke, you're probably smelling shit on the other side of the world. Something's backwards. Fix it.
This
Too much dopamine or something.
>implying
You just made my list buddy.
it starts with that, then its me thinking I can read peoples intentions, then I hear people on tv repeat words after I've just said them, which may be a coincidence but I read too much into it. Then if left untreated I have full blown episodes where I hear distorted radio sounds while the room shakes around me.
I'm on a long term 3rd generation antipsychotic, it has minimal sides just makes me a bit dumber.
It's highly probable that playing the ouija wasn't the trigger of her schizophrenia, but rather that it's the source of her hallucinations.
drugs are a hell of a drug
>How come Schizos only hear/see frightening/negative images and sounds?
Brain malfunctions and causes confusion. In such state of disorientation the mind goes panic mode where everything is assumed a threat. That's why most hallucinations or lucid dreams are frightening.
If you can relate, then you might have an anxiety disorder. It can be cured by identifying the context in which these hallucinations emerge and then try to create and reinforce positive experiences in them. Drugs could help create a positive experience aswell but please only with a doctors advice.
you can have temporary self-induced schizophrenia as well if you'd like to test it out.
-sleep deprivation
-fasting from food
-heavy meditation
-breathing exercises
I was awake 72 hours because it was a rough time and when I finally laid down to sleep I started hallucinating spiders crawling all over me which kept waking me up. I would keep hallucinating something fucked up on me or in my room every time I was about to go to sleep.
Ended up taking some sleeping pills and I slept 24 hours and felt fine afterwards
> be me
> trying to force myself to sleep
> cannot bcz stomach hurts too much
> start thinking about the after life and what is waiting 4 me
> somehow I had in my mind that video of Kadhafi being killed by his own people
> mfw our ex P Sarkozy was behind his death
> mfw he currently acts like he dindu nuffin
How come most politicians are demons?
This, I want to see a picture of a bloated fat acne ridden man with schizophrenia, the more common kind of we want to even start dispelling stereotypes or stigma...
>How come Schizos only hear/see frightening/negative images and sounds?
Heightened norepinephrine leads to fearful feelings via the fight-flight response.
The same exact thing can be initiated in non-schizophrenics via stimulant psychosis.Despite the euphoric feelings a drug like methamphetamine can cause, it can also lead to intensely fearful and distressing situations.
Alpha-PVP and MDPV are notorious for initiating these hallucinations, love-hatingly referred to as the "shadow people".
But it all comes down to an overstimulation of the fight-flight response combined with intense D2 agonism.
Panic attack? I can be paranoid about what those who control things do to fuck us over (fuck you fluoride) but generally it just makes me depressed when I first find out, then I take whatever steps are realistic to solve the problem the governments force down our throats (brush teeth with baking soda, use reverse osmosis filter, take quick showers and don't stand under the water, never use teflon pans).
It's probably not a good idea to get wrapped in a cycle of paranoia, if you have some kind of predisposition for schizophrenia, bad bouts of paranoia can make you snap and start the fall into madness.
hahaha, that must suck though
holy shit I wonder what blind schizos "see"
>DMT no different from getting drunk
Lol
Also how is singing and praying not drugging yourself? It's all about initiating a change in consciousness
Dude obviously growing up in western culture surrounded by Christians would cause her to have bad visions of bad things. It's drilled into us since birth that muh antchrist is ebil so of course she sees it
That's an interesting point. I wonder how blind people perceive psychedelic drug experiences.
there's a blind from birth guy on youtube who answers questions like this
his answer:
blind from birth people won't see anything, they'll just "feel" vibrations
people who could see and then went blind will have a trip like a normal person
the pills they give you turn your brain into a transmitter so they can use your powers without your consent.
Post more art like this fags
I like the idea of hell being a huge battle
bullshit
imagine feeling pricks and needles and feathers and fur and tongues all over your body and not being able to see, holy shit!!
lookup the art of Bosch he has some great shit, even inspired some of the hellish scenes in one of the best mangus Berserk
I am comforted by the fact that most living things spend a third of their lives vividly hallucinating.
>world seem like some kind of surreal non-stop horror show
thats life man
Depends on the model you're operating in, all of which you should be open to.
Demonic possession, rampant unconscious mind, unprepared Kundalini awakening, overactive third eye, genetics, overactive dopaminergic receptors, failure of sensory gating on event-related potentials in the brain, etc.
I've read that schizophrenia rates may be higher than thought, because some people experience delusions and hallucinations are not immediately unpleasant and thus do not believe anything is wrong.
Well lots of people do experience beautiful things in the same sense that they would otherwise be diagnosed as schizophrenic OP, one of the most famous examples would be William Blake who saw beautiful and occasionally very frightening visions overlaid over reality his whole life. The difference is that only a person seeing horrible things has a problem with it and so only they are unwell. Often people who have started having pleasant or unobtrusive experiences have tried to suppress it and this has caused them to become frightening.
There's a measurable physical component but I wouldn't say it's all just in the head and I say that from personal experience of people with the disease. Really, like with Jung, it makes more sense if you think of it as just spirits.
Ignore this retard , a pure example of a moron too stupid to even realise they're a moron.
gtfo degenerate hippy
my brother was a batshit paranoid schitzo for about 14 years (19-33)
its genetic firstly, and secondly unless the individual injures someone there is hope, my brother actually made a complete recovery after being court ordered medicinal injections.... other methods were too easily averted by his paranoia
No if you lived in a positive environment there is a strong probability that it would never surface as periods of stress and particularly dysfunctional families seem to have a big effect in bringing the condition on.
his main thing was that demons were killing him and that society as a whole was a demonic construct that was out to destroy him or something like that
it was atypically religiously infused
He is not wrong.
I think that girl may just be an edgy attention whore.
To your broader question of why hallucinations are negative, I think that evolutionarily the human brain is wired to always be on the lookout for danger in order to survive. It makes sense then that if the brain is malfunctioning that that sense would go awry and be hyper sensitive.
This is the answer. Your emotions are amplified and your fears, anxiety, anger are all expressed as an auditory or visual hallucination.
You can experience this by slowly falling asleep and then stopping somewhere on the cusp of sleep and wakefulness, in the hypnagogic state or just prior to this.
One of the main areas involved is the hippocampus.
I don't see why it's hard to believe that the human brain can fuck up without some kind of supernatural source behind it.
At least you accept that it's your brain. That's huge. Experiment with self induced hypnagogia and see if this doesn't help you to shut it off. Also get tested for thyroid issues. Does it happen when you have low blood sugar?
t. not a doctor
>She became a medium, the most famous in town
Top kek