25% of imports come from the European single market.
TTIP can be concluded that increases wealth on both side.
Say no to TTIP and want just a trade agreement with the UK (3% of exports and 2.5% of imports).
Explain yourself, Burgers. Why do you hate free trade?
It's not enough for us to win, we have to make everyone else lose too. TTIP doesn't do that.
More like ttip increases wealth on both kikes
/thread
You explain your reasons first.
Smart trade is more important than free trade. We should help our allies like the Brexitteers before we help our bitter like the Islamic Caliphate of Krautistan.
Afterall, you guys just keep aggressively trying to destroy western civilization.
Does anyone else find it creepy how much usa and uk suck each others cocks?
What's his name? Ron?
fuck off you jealous faggot
I would gladly diefor UK
I would gladly nuke you
>You explain your reasons first.
In a capitalist society, competition makes prices go down, thus increasing wealth. Free trade increases competition, thus increasing wealth on both sides - especially between two markets that each make up 20% of the world's GDP.
>help our allies
Ok, so you want to hurt yourself and just increase trade by 1/10th instead of the whole pie?
That is like winning the lottery and only taking 1/10th "because you hate the government".
>I would gladly diefor UK
Burgers are still cucked after 250 yrs.
Germans are grown up after 70 yrs.
Checks out.
>being this dumb
this is a new low, even for a german
The EU sucks and were teaming up with the old man to bash your fucking faces in.
>t. mohammed
Don't you have a dog to skin and eat, Chin?
So we can keep the production here
not alot of resistance to trade with England, easy political win.
Because of you we started importing turks. Seriously fuck you nigger and kike loving retards
UK and USA are bigger bros than you other EU fags... Poland can join in. The more I hear about Poland the bigger their balls sounds.
As an American I have no conflict with any other nationalist white country. Learn from us. Once you become 60% white youll find your people giving up your rights.
Fuck off Kraut!
Go suck a sausage dick!
if you were grown up then islam wouldn't be interested in cucking the entirety of your people
>So we can keep the production here
essentially, protectionism
We love free trade, we just hate the EU much, much more.
UK, CANADA, USA, AUSTRALIA, AND NZ
VS
THE WORLD
fuck you and your 4th EU reich you kraut fag
fuck you shill
CAZUK Empire when?
>UK, CANADA, USA, AUSTRALIA, AND NZ
Fine with me. It is not like you are that relevant to us. 90% of the world lives outside of those shitty Anglo blacked countries.
Keeping production in-house is not the same thing as protectionism. I get that the schools in Syria sucked before they got bombed but fuck man, one would think that they would have done a better job teaching you standard model economics.
Also, sage sand nigger.
uh yeah... i guess you don't realize we already cucked ourselves with TTIP in disguise.
wrong pic, but yeah we already signed CETA
>We love free trade
No, you do not. You have 20 free trade agreements in place, all of which with second tier (Israel, Canada, Korea) or tiny (Costa Rica, Jordan, freaking Oman!) countries.
The two trade agreements that would have really been something for free trade, would have been TTIP and TPP. Both of which were stopped by Trump. TTIP and TPP would have increased the total size of your free tade agreements (by GDP of the trade partners) from 8trillion to 34 trillion.
it will all be gone in the next election with weedfag and his gayboys get thrown into the St Lawrence
You understand that you also loose American military protection in the form of NATO? No, you really don't.
IF population had anything to do with how prosperous a country is India would have indoor plumbing and people not cutting of limbs to be better beggers.
>Keeping production in-house is not the same thing as protectionism. I get that the schools in Syria sucked before they got bombed but fuck man, one would think that they would have done a better job teaching you standard model economics.
American schools must really all teach creationism now. You cannot be so dumb "by design".
Yes, measures designed to keep foreign goods out of your country are by definition protectionism. Keeping internationally uncompetitive production in a domestic market is a socialist move - it might be popular with the masses, but it is inefficient and against free trade. You might like trade barriers to protect production that cannot compete internationally, but then do not claim you like free trade.
Free movement pls
After you remove Mexicans and housetrain your niggers though
>TTIP is good for you goyim
Where did I hear that before?
>IF population had anything to do with how prosperous a country is India
India has surpassed UK lmao
>exploit the brits b4 they wake up. totally going to work..
STOP REPLYING TO JIDF SLIDE THREADS.
There is a concerted effort to flood our board with Reddit faggots doing a "Raid".
IF YOU MUST TAKE THE BAIT; THE WORD SAGE GOES IN THE OPTIONS FIELD TO NOT BUMP THE THREAD.
This thread is an attempt to slide genuine content off the board.
We are being invaded. Wake up.
>American military protection in the form of NATO
Is that the NATO which has only benefitted America in the last 30 years? The one where NATO's military assistance article has been called upon once in its history... by America, which resulted in Germany expensing billions and having dozens of dead German soldiers in Afghanistan as a result?
Yeah, that would be just wonderful if this shit dies soon.
>F population had anything to do with how prosperous a country is India would have indoor plumbing
Falling for the Sup Forums memes. How old are you? India is a larger economy than Britistan. That is why we want a free trade agreement with them and with the UK leaving, the dispute over spirit exports to India will be gone - so we can conclude an FTA with them.
What we hate are globalists. And Uncle Nigel is finally cooperating with us again.
>Globalist Hans episode 748958737
Did people stop replying to your Brexit whining?
It's a father-son thing. You wouldn't understand, Jamal.
Poor analogy. In reality, what happens is we REPLACE the 25% of imports from EU with imports from UK. They have plenty to sell now since EU won't deal with them.
We help our allies, we hurt our enemies, we're still richer than both at the end of the day.
win/win/win
Yes, yes we do.
The part you appear to not understand is, and I will try to make it very clear for you, we do not like the EU. At all. Many Americans want to see you destroyed. The EU is nothing more than a giant SJW. You have fucked your nations, screwed over your children and grandchildren and spit on your ancestors. You WILL see Islam become a state mandated religion before the end of the century. France will be invaded to keep their nukes out of the hands of sand niggers.
Stop being a little bitch complaining about big, bad Trump because your ECON prof said so.
Nigger.
>>TTIP is good for you goyim
>Where did I hear that before?
>French flag
>protectionist socialist
Checks out. Why are the French so lazy that they need their government to protect them from free trade?
india has like 12 times UK population
it literally takes 1 UK person to do the same work that 12 pajeets does. pathetic hans.
NOOO STUPID MURRICAN STOP RUINING THE FOURTH RE- I MEAN THE EU'S PLANS
Maybe by 2030 ten Indians will be worth one whole UK citizen.
see, there comes a time when the people of a nation wants a little breathing room and maybe have it's self identity sorted out a little bit before putting itself out there again.
Not every nation wants to import a whole country into itself all at once because it would illicit the most thumbs up/upvote/retweet/etc among progressive hipsters.
Britain and America can increase trade with one another in wake of the EU being massive bitches about Brexit and trying to saddle UK with a bad deal, instead UK and US will have a free trade deal and EU will lose a great deal of trade with US. UK is also likely to strike up new trade deals with Commonwealth Nations like Australia and Singapore. Sounds like Hans is just salty he is going to come out with the short stick.
The TTIP has met with massive resistance in Europe, and most people are against it. It's only the EU leaders who want to push it through, despite how unpopular it is with the people.
Hit the nail on the head my fellow burger
>REPLACE the 25% of imports from EU with imports from UK.
Ahmm, what? So you are saying the non-existent UK industry which they tried to build up again for 25 yrs, but failed, will now be replacing over 1.2 trillion in exports... an increase of 1000%?
Ok, US schools must be really failing hard. You believe that some marketing company can replace high tech machinery... through powerpoint presentations.
Then go talk to your EU lords. The only free trade you have is within EU countries.
>we do not like the EU.
Hans: I have a proposal for you. If we cooperate we both make a million bucks. If we do not cooperate, it is just wasted potential and we both are unemployed.
Tyrone: Sounds fascinating, but I hate you - so we will both miss out on this 1 million, even though it is a sure thing.
Hans: So you hate money?
Tyrone: No, I love money, but I such a petty person, I hate you more than I love money.
Hans: So you are essentially an idiot.
Tyrone: Yes, checks out.
You're clearly not from around here by the way you talk, and don't live in Germany for that matter.
But yes. I'm saying UK will pick up the slack. You overestimate your own worth, and with all your deals with them gone, they have plenty left to offer the USA. Even if it's a deficit, it's worth it to see the EU suffer for their hatred of their ancestors and white children.
Good, we are in agreement that it is in the best interest of all parties that the US pull out of NATO and close here bases is Oceania.
What about the chopping off of limbs part? I notice you pick one part of an argument to debate while you ignore the stuff you can not. You, nigger, are the very definition of a nigger.
The FTA with the EU did nothing to serve the interests of the US and frankly given that the EU is a cunt hair away from socialism the subsidies the government would toss at industry would serve only to gut American business. For an example look at the Mexican farmers that were put out of business by this very thing when NAFTA came into effect.
If you hate the US so much and don't believe that the EU needs the FTA with them then why are you being a little bitch about it?
also, sage nigger.
>Pic Related faggot
Fuck germany that's why.
>krautcuck willingly gives up his rights, freedom and health to allow corporations to get richer.
Checks out. You krautniggers are the scum of Europe. No matter what we do, you'll drag us down. I wonder why the US didn't wipe you off the map.
>Maybe by 2030 ten Indians will be worth one whole UK citizen.
4 Indians will be worth 1 Brit. And it will continue from there.
The salty replies pretty much prove your point
So why not just do the free trade part, and skip the EU sjhit?
What in the world does this have to do with free trade?
>a little breathing room
Is this code for "we are uncompetitive, so we better go full socialist protectionist, so we are even more uncompetitive in the future"?
Yes. That is it in a nutshell. We hate you more then we like money.
Are you going to share what proxy your are using because your are not German.
>Explain yourself, Burgers. Why do you hate free trade?
>implying there weren't demonstrations all over Germany against TTIP
The protectionist idiocy is coming up all over the western world. Japan and China have strengthened their trade ties with everyone else.
This is going to end badly for us.
>Afterall, you guys just keep aggressively trying to destroy western civilization.
Free trade is what made the West what it is today.
Kek
mah free trade(with taiffs) lol
I'm proud of you America. You're a good kid.
>The TTIP has met with massive resistance in Europe, and most people are against it.
That is because people in Europe are socialist didndus. You do understand who the folks are who "offer this massive resistance" and who goes on the street to protest TTIP. They love their 35hr work weeks and hate competition, because "competition is soooo capitalist and communism doesn't need it".
Anti TTIP people in Germany are all green party communists or pure socialists or outright commies. Unwashed, illiterate, degenerate, feminist, unemployed, people.
All conservatives are for it, for good reason - it increases wealth and stops didndus from leaching off protectionist measures.
muhhamed, pedo pork fucker would you address
THE WEST IS SHIT TODAY.
It's taken all the menial middle class jobs and handed them to border jumpers, replacing it with a hopeless welfare state on the bottom and decadence and degeneracy on the top. It's hollowed out culture, and you don't even care, because as long as you got yours it's fine.
Go back and tell your friends at Davos that the cows see through your bullshit, and we're fucking DONE.
>>Pic Related faggot
The US got free trade agreements with 20 countries.
The EU got free trade agreements with 50 countries.
The common tariffs for the EU are exactly the same as the ones the US employs for all countries it has no FTA with. This is WTO 101.
So you are telling me, the US with its protectionist anti-FTA stance is now LESS protectionist than the EU with more FTAs and a will to expend into new FTAs?
Currently around 18 are worth 1 brit so no, you are incorrect again. You're such a Jew it's not even subtle.
Socialism isn't freedom.
France - constant 10% unemployment.
Germany - 4% unemployment.
You do understand capitalism is good and socialism is bad, right? Right???
lol, yeah all those wellfare rapefugees you brough it got work...
>So why not just do the free trade part, and skip the EU sjhit?
TTIP is the free trade part. What in free trade agreement don't you understand? The EU negotiates them for the single market. For a reason - if each country in the single market could have its own free trade agreement or protectionist measure, then there would not be a single market.
It is like Texas striking a deal with China, then importing Chinese steel with 0% tariffs, while the rest of the US has 30% punitive tariffs on it. What would hinder Texan importers to just sell this steel to the rest of the US without paying the tariffs? You do understand how tariffs work, right?
Hans, have you ever considered that maybe the US doesn't want to have free trade with you is not because Americans hate making money, but that Americans just don't like you? All your shit nation seems to be good for is trying to destroy western civilization. The biggest mistake the Anglo nations ever made was allowing Germany to remain a united nation after the Great War
we are still british in a sense so it's just more narcissism on our part
because fuck the EU
I don't care as long as Germany gets fucked.
>4% unemployment
Translation error, "unemployment" doesn't mean "Flüchtling"
He won't address any tough points, save your finger strength
What should I address. An unsourced picture of ramblings and lies put together by a socialist?
If you want to know about TTIP, look at e.g. CETA. It is public, you can read it, it is all there. The internet is your friend. Come back when you have an actual argument.
Oh, and fuck you commies for hating competition and capitalism. I fucking hate you assholes, you just want inefficient companies and failing countries just like in the Soviet Union.
The U.S. is an Anglo nation, if it's a "nation" at all. "Assimilation" in America basically means Anglification. When Chung Pow names his kid James, he's an American.
Getting closer to the UK instead of mainland Europe is emotional more than rational.
>senior US politician Paul Ryan
Doesnt even get reffered to by his own title kek
>What would hinder Texan importers to just sell this steel to the rest of the US without paying the tariffs?
A 30% tarriff on Texas steel, since the EU is made of SOVEREIGN NATIONS.
Nobody likes you Krautberg, your mother won't call on your birthday and you KNOW she won't.
...
Yeah goy let's trust the corporations on that one, faggot
>lol, yeah all those wellfare rapefugees you brough it got work...
And this has WHAT to do with the point of socialism creates unemployment? France has 10% unemployment despite not taking in 1 million illegals in 2015. Consider that for a moment, they are so communist their economy is so shit, despite them having no outside illegal pressure, while ours is so good, we are 4% despite 1 million illegals.
Capitalism rules, socialism is fucked up.
>goood save our graaaacious Queen
The EU, despite the original intent (which was misguided inmo) is not the US. European countries are not provinces/states. They can each negotiate their own trade deals, like they always did in the past. The recent past too. I laugh at all the chicken littles who decry they will wither and die without the EU. They're all under 40 yrs old. And in only 1 more generation of dependency, you will be stuck with it, the EU, forever.
But that has been Germany's goal all along.
Bingo
/thread
>but that Americans just don't like you
this scenario is described here: It is a nice way to avoid the issue of international competitiveness and go even further into being a socialist hellhole. Enjoy having your companies crumble and stop making good products due to protectionism and lack of international competition in the domestic market (because tariffs take care of foreign competitors).
I'm an American and I dislike Britain more than Germany.
American whites are inbred and retarded. They will bring about the fall of the U.S. with their retarded half communism policies. They're too stupid to become the engineers that will build the giant 3D printer to manufacture. We ain't gonna see whiteys in factories but on the streets as they're own race sells them out.
>Explain yourself, Burgers. Why do you hate free trade?
We hate (((free trade))).
I've ended the thread. You can start a new thread, or click Back in your browser to select a new thread.
>Yeah goy let's trust the corporations on that one, faggot
I trust corporations 1000% more than the government. But I understand Frenchies are all commie bastards who love their government and love their socialist shit. As long as you get subsidized bread, subsidized football and subsidized wine, you are all fine.
Well, guess what, some of us do not want to live in a stinking shithole and actually want to build up businesses, rather than destroying them.
It's an ally thing, you wouldn't understand.
>hate free trade by expressing our love of free markets by finding a new market to trade with
great logic karem abdul jabar muhhamad