American Sturmabteilung

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In the early days of the Nazi party and Hitler's rise, they were heckled as old-fashion, racists, traditionalists, etc. Largely by the KPD or Rotfront, the communists of 1920s/30s Germany. Even in the early 30s, Hitler was talked about as a buffoon and a political novice who could be manipulated by the more traditional conservatives (even after the Nazi party had grown to be the largest party in Germany). Communist attacks on Nazis grew in intensity, and streetfighting soon commenced (going from barroom brawls to fighting with clubs to finally shooting at each other). Many Nazis were assassinated by Communists and Horst Wessel Lied, the Nazi anthem, was a song written by one of the men turned into a martyr by Goebbels' propaganda.

Watching what happened at the Battle of Berkeley and the way the police completely refused to intervene, I am beginning to think that conservatives/alt-right need better organization and an outfit like the Sturmabteilung to protect people and make sure Communists can no longer attack old people or try to kick people to death on the floor.... or throw fucking explosives.

Look at the last thread for the history of the SA and its surprisingly similarities to what's happening now. The Beer Hall Brawl and the Battle of Berkeley.

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First for Blueshirts

A fraternity, why? "Because there are people who don't want it!"
National Socialist American Workers Party

Get armed and armored.

The police are telling you to come unarmed. They're disarming you. Stop listening to that shit. They are not going to defend you when some Commie fuck drags you into a group so eight of them can kick and stab you to death.

Arms Basics
>Shield
>Mace/Pepper Spray
>Flagpole.

People say the police were searching them. Well, first of all, you can fucking hide mace. Don't let the mayor of Berkeley disarm you via the police so his leftist thug friends can kill your ass. Besides, most of Antifa doesn't fucking protect their eyes. The only thing they wear, if anything, is glasses. Fuck them up if they touch you or start beating on someone.

Others have said that the police confiscated shields and poles: here's a hot tip. Try to get in some other way. The fucking Pepsi people somehow snuck in boxes of Pepsi when the cops were "confiscating" all the cans as projectiles. Alternatively, create a typical protest sign: a wooden board on top of a pole. Screw handles into the back of the sign. When you get behind the police line, take the sign off your pole and use it as a shield.

Armor Basics:
>Helmet
>Goggles (eyepro)
>Respirator or Gasmask (may incorporate eyepro)
>Cup (ballpro)
>Gloves

You may also want to include arm and shin protection. Hockey pads work (they're meant to take a slashing stick), but motocross, and even soccer shit if you're in a pinch. For chest protection, you can't go wrong with football pads, but a thick leather jacket works, too. If you go the football look, you can Caesar's Legion the fuck out of Antifa. If you have enough armor, you don't really need too much weaponry (though I'd still suggest pepper spray if you can).

Blueshirt uniforms

Fuck that noise. Use the SA as a model and learn from their history. Don't fetishize their look.

Any group meant to protect free speech rallies and conservatives should base themselves in the traditions of the country -- name themselves something important to our history. The Sturmabteilung weren't officially called 'Brownshirts.' It was a nickname.

Something like Minutemen, or Sons of Liberty, or The Militia to play into the revolutionary history.

Or something as simple as "The Defenders" or "Defenders of Liberty."

I'm going to mount a grinder's mask on the baseball helmet soon.

We haven't decided on an official name yet. Right now we want to spread the uniform around until we can get an actual organization going.

I actually think the Respirator/Goggles look is more intimidating and SWAT-y. The Grinder's mask makes you look like an ineffectual riot cop (also cops don't like when you dress like them).

Also you need a chinstrap.

Those masks have a dehumanizing effect, plus they're more money. Ultimately stuff like face protection will be up to the individual. I'll probably make one at some point.

You fags are nazi cosplaying niggers. That's why this movement will never go anywhere. Fucking shame to your nation.

The only way this can actually gain attention and a mass following is not to outwardly be cosplaying neo-nazis you dumb fucks.

We need segregation and we need to act like normal fucking human beings for closet nationalists to actually join the cause. NO VIOLENCE or call for violence. Peaceful segregation should be first priority.

Yes! Like Damigo's.

We're not cosplaying as Nazis. We're also not going to be openly NatSoc either. We aren't going to start violence. The entire point is to be defensive.

It was one of the inspiration. It's also inspired by the Falange.

>We're not cosplaying as Nazis.

People will see it like that regardless, it's something you'll have to prepare for.

Right Wing Safety Squads. Not the ones to satrt the fight, but they'll be the ones to finish it.

Maybe, but we aren't going to have shit like stahlhelms, jackboots, or really any 3rd reich imagery.

>"American sturmabteilung"
And this Outfit kek, you cant make this shit up.

lol kys fag

We don't want to look like these faggots either.

Here's the gear. If everyone has the same brand, same pants and the fat retards don't show up it looks 1000 times better

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you are an unrealistic faggot then. go goosestep to capitol hill in your nazi memorabilia and see how many steps before getting gang raped by a bunch of niggers.

The true alt-right movement is being threatened by nazi cosplaying degenerates when we should create our own image. You need to get with the time, no one is going to take you seriously when you call for genocide and outwardly blame everything on (((them))). We need to take what we can get, one step at a time.

Paint the rest of the circle shield into yellow. Maybe wear a less faggy shirt. A helmet that doesn't look ridiculous would be nice too.

I just cant take this shit serious Kek, they look so autistic. They look like they cosplay a priest. Why not just get tazer and baton and name it security. This larping is so wrong at so many levels.

>just cuck out goy

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The dude with the cross was memeing, his shirt referred to Common Filth

twitter.com/Common_Filth

and he was walking around telling people to repent.

Spencer's bodyguards had a far better look

The actual SA had cooler uniforms than this stupid shit. The British uniforms looked cool too.

youtube.com/watch?v=1mtX9EAMEcg

Do many Americans have weight issues...?

Based stickman, the American hoplite, and all of the others are just a disorganized version of the Sturmabteilung. They're solitary and often targeted because they cannot count on their fellows to join them in a charge. It's also why you see overhead views of Trump-supporters getting pulled into the crowd and beaten with nobody charging ahead to help him.

You need an organized group, training together, which can move as one and charge the Antifa lines when they start throwing shit, to scatter them like roaches.

Nobody is even saying to dress like a Nazi. Go cuck yourself with your nigger friends.

I'd go with armor and red helmets as enough uniform, desu. I'm nto really down with the "Blueshirts" outfit. But it's better than nothing.

Explain this shit then hahahah
>inb4 muh germanic Kampfsharman

I don't want to copy the European Identitarians exactly. The uniform is meant to be really easy to obtain while still looking somewhat decent.

I like it - like Sup Forums, humor even when fighting.

no asshole

My two cents is you emulate stickman. Nothing with shirts or tidy clothing, you'll look like a LARPer.

If it were me I'd hit up an army surplus with a small group of guys you trust and get field jackets, softshells etc. from the inventory of a single, random, preferably smaller country. You'll look uniform to them and recognizable to your own. It'll also be weird to levy accusations of Nazi larping if you're all wearing Dutch or Danish field jackets.

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We're not cosplayings as Nazis. We're purposely avoiding that.

Do you guys beat up gays?

no just women

I mean they called that kid at Hwndu a nazi and he was wearing a Finnish hat.

He's just trying to troll you.

Only if they're commies throwing bombs into crowds.

You must have missed all the Antifa dudes that got their shit hammered by Rick Flair.

The uniform is supposed to be simple, distinct, cheap, and easy to obtain. You could buy the entire thing at walmart for less than 50 bucks. Collared shirts also look more professional.

That would be best, but damn, don't people get that you've got to, at least, have others' backs individually? Just a reminder to think of the group as a whole will go 80% of the way, for low cost, and no training.

To his credit, Richard Spencer told his entourage this at the DC thing about two weeks ago.

I made this one a few months ago for the people at dailystormer.com

Not Sup Forums affiliated but this was the first propaganda poster I ever made so don't throw shade if you doubt my art skills.

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>using Trumpenstein for this
You all got played like Swoboda by the tribe.

Yea I know :(((((((((

Pretty good, if not one to expose to the general public.

But it might still real in normie Trump people. We could do that.

Thanks!

Especially with Trump, assuming we have moved past him apon the Syria happening, we could certainly use it to real in Normie Trumpers, or just get people thinking enough to visit the site.

Don't be a Naziboo. I'm only using the Sturmabteilung as an effective historical example. The iconography should be stuff from the revolution and classic americana.

It probably didn't help his image when he recited the 14/88.

Single color field jackets are piss easy to get, and I know for a fact that there are tons of Dutch and Germans ones floating around in the US. Quick google indicates they shouldn't cost more than 25$ a piece.

Understood.

It isn't as easy as getting a blue collared button up.

Glücklicher geburtstag mein führer

>inb4 optics shill.

The Sturmabteilung wore army surplus, but they wore German colonial shit that looked fairly informal compared to military wear of the time. The SS were the ones that donned more formal military garb.

Richard Spencer is no Hitler. He's a dork who can't even talk about the greatness of his people without stuttering (because deep down, some part of him still calls him a racist when he does it). We don't have anyone for an SS.

Furthermore, and more importantly, we want any uniform to appear easy to throw together and kinda common. If you show up in military uniform, you're going to get tagged as some conspiratorial, paranoid militia man. Better to show up in a blue shirt with hockey/football/motocross gear on top of it and keep up the image of haphazard defense. Better uniforms can be considered once we're organized.

Fuck the german influence, keep it american. Its amazing watching a bunch of americans wearing captain america shit chasing down commies while Battle Hymn of The Republic plays

In uns marschiert Deutschland! Hinter uns liegt Deutschland und vor uns kommt Deutschland!

>Not just dressing up as hasidic Jews or Muslims to confuse the narrative

We need to create a uniform with an armband so we can identify each other during a happening.

I agree with you. What I'm saying is the Sturmabteilung essentially grew out of the same exact shit as the Battle of Berkeley and we should look at it as an example of an effective paramilitary group that defended rallies and fought commies.

"he precursor to the SA had acted informally and on an ad hoc basis for some time before this. Hitler, with an eye always to helping the party to grow through propaganda, convinced the leadership committee to invest in an advertisement in the Münchener Beobachter (later renamed the Völkischer Beobachter) for a mass meeting in the Hofbräuhaus, to be held on 16 October 1919. Some 70 people attended, and a second such meeting was advertised for 13 November in the Eberlbrau beer hall. Some 130 people attended; there were hecklers, but Hitler's military friends promptly ejected them by force, and the agitators "flew down the stairs with gashed heads." The next year, on 24 February, he announced the party's Twenty-Five Point program at a mass meeting of some 2000 people at the Hofbräuhaus. Protesters tried to shout Hitler down, but his former army companions, armed with rubber truncheons, ejected the dissenters. The basis for the SA had been formed."

Con.

A permanent group of party members who would serve as the ruffian Saalschutzabteilung (meeting hall protection detachment) for the DAP gathered around Emil Maurice after the February 1920 incident at the Hofbräuhaus. There was little organization or structure to this group. The group was also called the Ordnertruppen around this time.[6] More than a year later, on 3 August 1921, Hitler redefined the group as the "Gymnastic and Sports Division" of the party (Turn- und Sportabteilung), perhaps to avoid trouble with the government.[7] It was by now well recognized as an appropriate, even necessary, function or organ of the party. The future SA developed by organizing and formalizing the groups of ex-soldiers and beer hall brawlers who were to protect gatherings of the Nazi Party from disruptions from Social Democrats (SPD) and Communists (KPD) and to disrupt meetings of the other political parties. By September 1921 the name Sturmabteilung was being used informally for the group.[8] Hitler was the official head of the Nazi Party by this time.[9]

On 4 November 1921 the Nazi Party held a large public meeting in the Munich Hofbräuhaus, which also attracted many Reds and other enemies of the Nazis. After Hitler had spoken for some time, the meeting erupted into a melee in which a small company of SA thrashed the opposition. The Nazis called this event the Saalschlacht ("meeting hall battle"), and it assumed legendary proportions in SA lore with the passage of time. Thereafter, the group was officially known as the Sturmabteilung.[8]

Remind you of something? Battle of Berkeley maybe?

Your Captain America Chris Evans wants to beat up the guy who punched that antifa cunt though. And your Captain America comics war anti-German war propaganda.

You will always end up the same this way: allying with communists to beat "evil fascists". Just look at all the liberals on the bash a fash/Captain America train.

Just wear the blueshirt

Wait for the armband until it's properly formed and there's more public support behind us. Dropping an armband too early will get the Nazi accusation accepted by the general public. It's about propaganda. So long as we're still wrapping ourselves in American flags and sticking to defending rallies, the public will ignore the media shills. Go too heavy on Nazi iconography too early and you're done for.

The way you confuse the narrative is through getting around California's "No Batons, Clubs, or Nightsticks" law by bringing big, black dildos and beating Antifa to death with them.

Kek

Sons of liberty is pretty dope. Pluss it is gender specific.

>Sons of liberty
That's already a thing.

>Go too heavy on Nazi iconography too early and you're done for.

We don't need any swastikas since we aren't living in Nazi Germany, but this could work as an armband. We need to focus on American colors and symbols--I agree.

The Sons of Liberty were a secret society pre-revolution made up of many of the founding fathers. They're the ones who organized the Boston Tea Party and got the news out about the Boston Massacre and tarred and feathered a taxman. Sam Adams was one -- we'd have our own beer!

You could also have "Sons and Daughters of Liberty" being the umbrella organization, in the same way MitHC has "League of Nazi Wives."

That's the point.

Eagles, dude. Stars and stripes. I know "lionguard" is a thing, but look to classic Americana.

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Real men wear short shorts

This would make a bad ass armband.

It would but it's way too early for armbands.

Look at the markings on WW2 mustangs. Why not a classic?

Were not gonna let real Neo Nazis co-opt our movement for freedom and liberty. At the end of the you are socialist scumbags that have more in common with ANTIFA than you do with libertarian, free market capitalists.

>(((Hollywood))) actor that only lifts to play captain America wants to beat up a combat veteran
>beta male liberals and cat ladies want to bash the fash

This shit is completely irrelevant. You don't see the America we do. I'm in the armed forces. I follow dozens of veterans pages and interact with these guys everyday. The people who are capable of initiating true violence, not hit and run antifa tactics, I'm talking going into people's homes in foreign countries and killing them in cold blood, will not side with antifa. We view this, at a base level, as an assault on muh free speech and democracy. A good number of us are also staunchly anticommunist and would kill American citizens if given the green light. Don't believe that Twitter represents reality.

All I can see in that symbol is men who allied with communists to destroy my country and kill millions of my people so we could get this world order.

>doesn't realize that many of us are libertarians but are tired of seeing people get fucked over by antifa and want to fight.

Yo, when Napoleon looks at alexander for military tactics, is it because he's a Macedonian fetishist who wants to fight Persia or because he wants something that works?

crymoar

Were not gonna let real Neo Nazis co-opt our movement for freedom and liberty. At the end of the you are socialist scumbags that have more in common with ANTIFA than you do with libertarian, free market capitalists....

The Japs bombed us and we weren't going to sit back and take it like cucks. You can point fingers all that you want, but that's ancient history. Stop living in the past.

>it's a nazi trying to start purity spirals because things aren't 100% perfect episode
Kill yourself retard

At some point the realization that any leftist party is dividing America will hopefully happen.

For our country to grow, we need to unify, not keep dividing politically every few years that we elect a new president.

We killed way more commies in Southeast Asia. Hell, I'm pretty sure less than 1 million Germans died on the western front, by all allied forces.

You already spammed this, you 'tard.

Basically. Not even Hitler allowed his loyalty to Ernst Rohm to keep him from LongKnifing the SA when they got too radical (which, you know, reminder for anybody participating in this -- never try to insult or co-opt the army)

True. And slowly people are seeing it the more Antifa attacks and the more they see common americans fight back.

There are people waiting with guns and cameras, trust me. If the Communists try to do a mass shooting attack, they will be the ones that die in mass. Believe it.

>Canada will seize to exist in your life time
Feels fucking great, man!

Exactly. The normalization of violence at a Trump rally by these goons is adding to our side, but hopefully through observation of this, people will begin to realize that any leftist doctrine is anti-American and useless.

>Let's dress up as Nazis, a party that has no positive feeling in the United States, that will easily destroy our movement.

No, do not do this. If you really need to dress up, you're in two categories.

>We need to be effective in combat
Wear whatever it is you usually wear. Avoid the bandana deal. Go buy some home depot respirators, motorcycle gear, or whatever. Bring a heavy flashlight or a bike lock or something.

>We want to look like a movement
Then you're doing this completely wrong. The United States is an every man country. If you want to make this work in your favor, dress like actual people who would be working around there. If you're in Berkley, go in business casual, look like you literally are on lunch from your business. Look professional, look well groomed. If you're paranoid, wear a heavier jacket, or bring a justifiable weapon; if you were any other state, I'd recommend just bringing a gun.

If you're in a place that is less urban, wear jeans, wear flannel, wear whatever screams "AMERICA"

When the news reports on it, and all the footage they have is of people in the street wearing suits, dress shirts that look like their dads and their sons battle anarchists dressed in black hiding their face, or when it's rural and all you have is blue collar workers getting attacked by Communists, you'll strike a resonance with the people you actually need to convince.

Also, for the love of fucking god, please don't wear armbands.

That's why we're wearing button up blue collared shirts.

literally didn't read anything

why are you so retarded.

>WE WANT TO ALL LOOK THE SAME

Don't fucking do that. Thing is, your uniform is simply in opposition to them.

I.e., as soon as you create a uniform you have distanced yourself from average Joe.

You should be able to tell if they're anti fa just by the fact they're dressed in black.

Light blue chambray shirts with dark jeans.

It's a really simple uniform that isn't Nazi larping. We want to show a unified force that protects the average joe against antifa. You can't rely on pure PR forever, you need to take to the streets.

What part of

>You shouldn't have a dress code that is particular because it has no benefit and it isolates you from people you need

Is complicated?

It's like this faggot unironically suggesting arm bands.

>So, armbands are associated with paramilitary groups and especially the Nazis.
>We don't actually need them in anyway; we are the status quo, it's more up to the antifa to be noticeable
>Let's do that not now, but eventually because eventually armbands will be a good idea for no real reason

It's right up there with the pointless and bad names that people suggest when they have a huge fucking litany of AMERICAN things they can use for a nationalist movement.

The armband thing was told 'no' lol.

Arm bands are a no go. No one is going to be wearing jackboots, stahlhelms, or 3rd reich imagery.

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How about a Christian-Fascist movement?
To fight against the Jew is to do the Lord's work.