Ending the "Cultural Marxism" meme

Ever get annoyed about how many people on Sup Forums spam "cultural Marxism" when ever they see something the don't like? With no references?
Well this actual Marxist actually debunked it:

youtube.com/watch?v=odhhGmwxZ5I

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archive.is/NelT9
m.youtube.com/watch?v=5gnpCqsXE8g
m.youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congress_for_Cultural_Freedom
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_industry
youtube.com/watch?v=al3aOuqpVbs
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demoralization_(warfare)#Diverting_frustrations_and_hatred_to_a_new_target
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pastebins incoming

The idea is that cultural marxism leads to communism through bringing everyone down to the level of the proletariat via societal pressures and laws instead of taking the hard economic route. The keystone of doing so is that once people are all dragged down into communism on a level of societal interaction it's easier for the economic principles of marxism to pull ahead in a democratic system.

No I don't get annoyed with seeing this term, I get annoyed with pant shitting Leftists who bleat it's not happening, when it has infected everything and is in plain sight. We don't even need the "anti-Semitic" angle to point out the phenomena, i that makes the term easier for the squeamish, as plenty of non Jews around the world have taken up the banner.

no

What you're describing has nothing to do with what Gramsci or the Frankfurt School actually said.

Here is a good lecture on Gramsci:
youtube.com/watch?v=2OAVNYo3rWI

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When will these goys learn? Marxism is a Jewish plot to use the worker as a golem and means of ethnic power transfer.

Linda Sarsour isn't a Marxist. She's a flat-out liberal who thinks her hijab and Palestinian genes give her street cred. She basically fits the "love me I'm a liberal" trope.

Of course Judaism had an influence on the thought of the Frankfurt School, but this proves nothing as to whether or not Critical Theory was created as a "conspiracy" to subvert western values for the sake of communist revolution.

archive.is/w1Pz9

bamidbar-journal.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Introduction-prt.pdf

The Frankfurt School was actually quite critical of the USSR, dipshit.

Thanks, saved it to listen to later. What is closest to what I've described though? I ask because that seems to be the current method of attack in american society.

If you want to understand the current "fall" of western culture, look no further than late capitalism.

nah. I'm just gonna ask outright if you like communism.

Yes.

youtube.com/watch?v=NmO2QldMTTM

I like capitalism with some stringently monitored safety nets to help those with the minimum it takes to help them get into a profession of any kind, what's your take on the idea?

All the trotskist kikes were critical of the USSR past 20's, after Staline went back to realpolitik and throw judeo-bolshevism in the toilet.

Marxism being "Jewish" has nothing to do with how valid it is as a school of thought or revolutionary praxis.

Not trying to be a dick, but you can't call the group who invented usury communist, unless you can somehow explain how charging interest on a loan for capital gain is communistic.

French commie spotted.

Oh wait, those two things are the same.

Let me tell you: most French "communists" are revisionist as fuck.

Yes, we know.

>Marxism being "Jewish" has nothing to do...

So you agree that it is Jewish.

Whatever the flavour, AIDS is AIDS.

No. I was speaking as a hypothetical. Even if da jooz did "invent" Marxism it doesn't mean anything.

>Even if
>did "invent"
>Marxism
>Karl Marx
>Well known Jew

if if if if IF IF IF if if if if .obama

So what? You want to talk about Marxist economics, or what Gramsci (who wasn't Jewish but Italian/Albanian) and the Franks actually said?

>You want to talk about Marxist economics

I only want to provide free helicopter rides. There is no need for debate between political extremes, only war and death.

It always leads to totalitarian/despotic governments that suppress the people under it's rule through the barrel of a gun, as well as famine and plague. I don't think there's much else to say really.

>thinking yuri is credible in any way

SHUT UP

I don't know anybody who would shut up because a french says so lel.

>There is no need for debate between political extremes, only war and death.

Edgy. That certainly worked out pretty well last time.

There is literally nothing wrong with being French.

Also, Mélenchon will win big tomorrow.

lol memes

Why do you bother talking with those retards ?

Sup Forums is meant for memes, not serious discussion, the retarded burgers here will not get what you try to say.

Anyone who seriously read Adorno or Horkheimer and other thinkers of the Frankfurt School know how much they are the opposite of SJW thinking, and are actually quite reactionary on many subjects, including culture.

The really father of SJW are french actually, Foucault, Derrida, and all those fags who infected SoCal campus and thus the world.

But what's the point to try to show that to them ?

Either way Le Pen and the FN will crash and burn during the Second Round.

In a broader context, cultural marxism is just application of marxist analysis (privileged vs. oppressed) to areas outside economics (to culture). Basically modern SJWs, so clearly not debunked.

It is always important to underline how France is poisonous.

Thanks user.

It has everything to do with what Marcuse said and he is the guy that modern identity politics stem from (due to his work at Cal in the 70s).

Benjamin and the Theses on the Philosophy of History also have a lot to do with this. Angel of history, crying at constant oppression of the lower classes, historical materialism is the only way out... etc

>The really father of SJW are french actually, Foucault, Derrida, and all those fags who infected SoCal campus and thus the world.
100% agree.

I'm way above these plebeians

Capitalism is a system in place that was then abused and manipulated by jews. Communism was a system created for the sole goal of abuse and manipulation by jews. Capitalism is somewhat salvagble as non jews can actually acomplish shit and gain riches/power to oppose the jews. In communism non jews can't do anything to the jews because they can't even get power/riches in the fit's place if jews don't let them. That's the real problem with communism. Even if an "real" communism was ever succesfully implemented then it could still be taken over by jews pretty easily compared to capitalism and then everything gets fucked

Marcuse had very little to do with modern idpol. He was actually very critical of hippies for not revolting in a significant way and/or creating the alternative institutions needed to replace capitalism.

Benjamin was basically a surrealist version of your average Hasid whose Theses draws upon the kabbalah of Yitzhok Luria (whose works form the foundation of Hasidic Judaism) and specifically tells Marxists to fuck the productive forces and return to HaShem.

aids is just a social construct, until you die from it

Still kinda beating around the bush on an answer for why communism always ends in death and famine thing.

"The only thing a jew fear is Communism without jews."

t. Louis-Ferdinand Celine.

Jews fear anything that does not allow them in.

>>It always leads to totalitarian/despotic governments that suppress the people under it's rule through the barrel of a gun, as well as famine and plague.
What system taken to its endgame didn't so far?

Fucking Christ, end your life

>Nazi Germany was socialism without Jews

:thinking:

Capitalism has killed far more than communism.

For a detailed analysis of why the Frankfurt School had NOTHING TO DO with social justice warriors or the alleged "fall" of western academia, read this:

archive.is/NelT9

I dont understand why commies are so triggered by "cultural marxism". It is the application of marxist theories to broader culture as opposed to just economics.
What is the problem there?

Why?

This makes literally no sense. How can social pressures appropiate private property from Capitalists? They control the social pressures. You need physical force, revolution, to make everyone proletariat.

It isn't close to any form of Marxism because it's impossible to do.

Something is not part of an ethnicity just because the guy who made it was part of an ethncity. Why does Sup Forums only ever apply this logic to jews?

Except it hasn't. Look at the Paris Commune, the Hungarian republic, Revolutionary Catalonia and so many more.

Gonna need to back that up

Just look at the death tolls in capitalist countries from lack of food, lack of water, workplace deaths, etc.

Nice background music

This exact point was addressed in the video, try watching it

Watch this Video
m.youtube.com/watch?v=5gnpCqsXE8g
Yuri explains how they destroy a nation
1.Demoralization
2.Destabilization
3.Crisis
4.Normalization
This is what cultural Marxism is and how it's administered

>yuri

He's hardly a credible source.

Also, the US/CIA distributes propaganda to other countries all the time.

When you really start getting into this it becomes complicated but it doesn't look good for the left.

Wow, it's the exact same system CIA uses to ruin small independent countries all over the world, what a coincidence.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4
Would you care to explain why he isn't a credible source, or at least how he's less credible than that poof in the OP video?
What Yuri says makes sense to me, it seems logical

Yes, and then, when everything is power and nothing is left standing up - everything is a social construct / a way to overpower others - then why do all those friggin idiots turn to communist-tier theories?

No the CIA doesn't use this system.
Usually, the CIA tries to put in /their/guy via a coup or something, like Pinochet

Shock doctrine you mean?

There's nothing to debunk. Modern academia has nothing to do with any Soviet infiltration and actually came out of France in the 1960s.

How's that related to capitalism? People died from this under communism too

For starters he never used the term "Cultural Marxism" (because it didn't mean back then what the right wing have concocted it to mean today) secondly he did all his "subversion" in India; in a Russian Newspaper (the equivolent of RT today, so everyone new it was the Russian perspective), thirdly he fled to the USA (he'd hardly flee to a country he knew would collapse). Fourthly all his lecture tours and videos were sponsored by the John Birch society. A society soley constructed to be anti-communist. They fell out of favour once they accused President Dwight D. Eisenhow of being a commie.

...man, that jacket and tie combo. Sheesh, the Russians have no sense of fashion. Ever.

I'm not familiar with the term, would you mind explaining it?

By no means am I saying the CIA are necessarily the good guys, they're good Goys sure, but they suck.
They were infiltrated by Soviets back in the 50s
>there's nothing to Debunk
What do you mean there's nothing to Debunk? The type of Subversion Yuri speaks of was applied all over the world, not just in the US

Yeah but there never was this one dude that said "kill all the farmers and don't let any import of food happen because I just happen not to like the Ukrainians"

>What do you mean there's nothing to Debunk?
See:

>The type of Subversion Yuri speaks of was applied all over the world, not just in the US

He did his shit in India. Don't know about the rest of the world.

America has done similar. It's statecraft. Not subversion.

America does it to its self too:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congress_for_Cultural_Freedom

>Right wing concocted it to mean today
What do you think the right wing definition is?
>Subversion through soviet newspaper
Correct, but if you ever read his books or watch his vids he explains that they "buy off" MSM journalists to run their stories and they run shit tier commie magazines in other countries to print their crap
>fled to US
actually he fled to Canada because he didn't trust CIA

See:

>shock doctrine
Use a war, a coup, a revolution, anything that happens naturally within a country and place your puppet or strengthen capitalism.
Basically, while the people are recoiling from the violence and in shock of what just happened they are distracted and that way you can pass laws that they would normally oppose.
It's something from Naomi Klein. She's full anticapitalist but the analysis of "distract the populace with horror and then do your thing isn't wrong".

As for the war/coup/upheaval, I'm pretty sure that the CIA uses Yuri-tier tactics to feed that too.

>he did his shit in India
Yes but his SE Asian office was only one, they had different offices designated to different parts of the world

Thank you based Stayan.

Yeah, the media sucks. The Frankfurt School were against their crap.

But communist media is also shit.

It's all culture industry bullshit.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_industry

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The right wing def. of "Cultural Marxism" is the Frankfurt School inserting oppressor/oppressed politics into everything - which A) they weren't on about, and B) they didn't write a whole lot about.

The Frankfurt School actually critiqued liberalism pretty hard.

Example:

youtube.com/watch?v=al3aOuqpVbs

Ok, that sounds about right
>CIA using Yuri tier tactics
I think they used everyone except for the demoralization process

Cuba, USSR, Maoist Revolution era China, North Korea, any I'm forgetting? When I mention this, I mean as a direct result of the governmental body of such countries. Like it or not, capitalism isn't married to politics the way that communism is - a communist state has to have the political system tied with the economic system of the country, a capitalist country doesn't have to have it's government married to the capitalist economics it may or may not have been founded on.

>a marxist debunks the theory that marxists are infiltrating our increasingly marxist society
really stimulates the glands

>Right wing definition of cultural Marxism
That's not my definition of Cultural Marxism. I believie it's the Break down of Culture, Traditions, and institutions in a nation state

Quickly reading through this, but at first sight the whole "Eros and Civilization" thing feels obviously very in line with modern SJW thought. The idea of sexual liberation as freedom is a recurring theme, and it's actually having devastating effects on society.

Adorno was more Sup Forums than Sup Forums.

>I think they used everyone except for the demoralization process

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demoralization_(warfare)#Diverting_frustrations_and_hatred_to_a_new_target


I'm sure a moron lapping up his masters' propaganda knows so much more about this than someone from a country it's been used on, that's geopolitically situated among dozens of other countries it's been used on.

Marcuse was highly critical of hippies though.

"All that Marxism is is the workers owning the means of production"

Why is this guy calling himself a Marxist is he clearly hasn't read Marx's material?

Well, maybe you'd like this from the "British Cultural Marxist" Richard Hoggart:

>He documents the break-up of the old, class culture, lamenting the loss of the close-knit communities and their replacement by the emerging manufactured mass culture. Key features of this are the tabloid newspapers, advertising, and the triumph of Hollywood. These "alien" phenomena have colonized local communities and robbed them of their distinctive features. Hoggart's attack is not on popular culture; rather it is on mass culture which is imposed from above. "Popular culture" being self-created has a fundamental integrity and evolves according to its own laws and dictates, not as a result of the mass media.

The truth is that traditions have been broken SINCE nationalism was used as a clock of propaganda by empires and monarchs.

youtube.com/watch?v=qq8A_8gUc3Y&t=500s

People used to be tied to local traditions, the land, their own families and areas history. It was a very solid connection - but nationalism was used against the people.

Nationalism stole local traditional cultures in order to trick people into going to war for empires... that's fucked huh?

Retard

>, a capitalist country doesn't have to have it's government married to the capitalist economics

Are you literally brain damaged? Did you ever read a single book in your life?

>Capitalism has killed far more than Communism
Ffs go back to lefty/pol/, you mongoloids parrot off the same line every time. Capitalism has not killed anyone as it is purely an economic system whereas Communism is a Social and Evonomic system, I.e. A form of government.
There has never been a Capitalist Government

The breakdown is the result of advances in technology, not cultural marxism.

Feminism does not exist in the age of the plow.

>not an argument

>da jooos!

They say anti-semitism is the socialism of fools

>There has never been a Capitalist Government
kek pure ideology

>I believie it's the Break down of Culture, Traditions, and institutions in a nation state

The Birmingham School, The Frankfurt School, The Cultural Marxists - actually LIKED culture.

They weren't against it; they were against the destruction and commodification of culture in order to sell things.

The cultural marxists were social democrats - and so believe in state ownership and public institutions.