This thread is for Discussion of Capitalism, Libertarianism, Paleolibertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Minarchism, and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Aleppo Johnson-fags, Left-Libertarians, and other Shit-Libs need to fuck off. Voice your complaints to r/libertarian.
Is anyone excited for Trump's tax plan? Biggest tax cut in history!
Connor Powell
>as property owner must undertake all liabilities of imported labor
If somebody isn't a good employee, then the business owner will fire them, simply as that. In a libertarian society, there would be few, if any, restrictions on a business owner's ability to fire employees that are failing to live up to expectations. Also, notice I said "libertarian" and not "ancap" because I don't think ancap is even possible to begin with.
James Wood
Also are you guys against or for pic related?
Levi Davis
As a paleo-con, I fully support it. Trump is the best president we've had in a long time, even if I don't agree with him on every issue.
Ethan Nelson
ALL liabilities their housing, their food, their family if it comes etc. the costs start to rack up. property owners must take it all. costs rack up, and they arent socialized like in democracy. They are real and felt by property owners. firing and hiring may become an ordeal if you arent sure about the labor you import.
libertarianism lost its meaning to me, its just a slush of nonsense and incompatible beliefs. What i am describing is anarcho capitalism, and it looks alot like the city states you mentioned
Nolan Gomez
Communists and Marxist are a clear and present threat to liberty, life and property
killing and suppressing them is our moral responsibility
in the battle against leftist tyranny there can be no mercy
Jaxon Baker
>their housing, their food, their family if it comes etc. the costs start to rack up.
That's their problem.
>property owners must take it all.
Um.....no? Why would a business owner be responsible for paying an employee who has already been fired?
>its just a slush of nonsense and incompatible beliefs
That's basically how I see Ancapism.
Daniel Roberts
>Guys look at how edgy I am! We libertarians hate those commies too, they are fags, and we're cool dudes just like you fascists! Physical removal guys!
These forced meme threads remind me of someone trying to fit in with the cool kids at school, they're pathetic. AnCap will never work, and all the other libertarianisms are weak and provide no protection against corporatocracy, degeneracy and the downfall of society.
Funny, what happened to the NAP?
Adrian Gonzalez
All property is owned. They wont be able to import labor if the labor cannot rent or buy first.
Property owners must take up all liabilities beforehand.
this includes restitution for the community if property values drop as per contract, if the hiring of invitation of the labor was the cause.
Have you read into Hoppe? Its solid foundation for ancaps and will clear up any misunderstanding caused by subversion
Adrian Butler
You've managed to use every fallacy going. Please carefully ready the Sup Forums sticky image then return to the thread with some arguments.
Ryder Jenkins
Your thread provided no arguments in the first place, nice try though. Then again, you paraphrased your favourite jewtuber so I'm truly BTFO.
Jaxson Parker
>everything you wrote already refuted literally low information
Ryder Morgan
Your entire ideology has already been refuted. Get the fuck off Sup Forums.
You sound frustrated, consider drinking a cup of tea and calming down
Jayden Morales
your right this thread is fucking garbo-tier on info
Evan Gonzalez
>If you don't agree with me you're an animal
Really makes me think, what a well reasoned argument. Next.
Dominic Gomez
the last time a private corporation had a private army and bussiness worldwide was centuries ago and it was due to state's legislation towards maritime trading, which resulted in a monopoly
makes you stink
Chase Butler
low info, im sure you read from there ahmed. hey guess what im posting on Sup Forums still
pic for you, fucking degenerate
Christian Kelly
Why are you bringing up private armies? Are you a schizoid?
Kevin Stewart
>Forced meme Forced meme is a forced meme to suppress organic and dank memes. >Funny, what happened to the NAP? The commies violated it. So we will retaliate.
Ryan Foster
>Property owners must take up all liabilities beforehand.
This is completely stupid. If somebody gets fired, a business owner is not required to provide anything for that person after that point.
Julian Johnson
>all those people claiming that Trump's victory means we live in the best timeline Funny, Last time i checked I still dont get redirected to Ron Paul when i search '45th president of the USA'
Jace Bailey
Its not stupid and yes the buisness owner is not required to provide anything for that person AFTER. I dont understand what you dont get.
Lets try it this way: How will the buisness/land owner invite foreign labor?
Elijah Roberts
Amen brother.
Robert Smith
>How will the buisness/land owner invite foreign labor?
They don't need to. People who want jobs will come looking for jobs, and employers will hire them if they have openings. And without border controls, there is nothing to stop people from poor countries from migrating to rich countries to find jobs.
Wyatt Fisher
Reminder that Anti-Communist action is run by furries, pony fuckers, and degenerates. There is no tolerance for advocates of alternative lifestyles in the covenant whos purpose is protecting family and kin
Do not let leftists in
Luke Rodriguez
>And without border controls, there is nothing to stop people from poor countries from migrating to rich countries to find jobs.
Without border controls enemy cultures invade at will. Destruction of borders is a very old Marxist and libtard goal.
Ideals are for children. Do what is useful for your own advantage. Life is war. Open borders are utter, abject surrender.
Noah Parker
>Open borders are utter, abject surrender.
Pretty much. This is exactly why ancap is a stupid idea, because any kind of anarchist society would have open borders by default.
Blake Scott
Nice, you posted an excerpt from a book you probably haven't read. I can tell you barely understand the excerpt because it doesn't provide an argument - just a commentary.
The spamming of green Rothbard, Hoppe, Hayek, Von Mises figures against AnCap backgrounds is a forced meme. It isn't funny, it's an attempt to subvert Sup Forums and a pathetic and blatant bid at making the popular symbol Pepe a figurehead of anarcho-capitalism which it never was or will be. The thought process behind all this libertarian and ancap spam is that you will supplant fascism, nazism, and white nationalism on this board as the dominant ideology, because, like all humans you have a desire to fit in and be part of the hegemonic group. Unfortunately for you, you will fail. I look forward to hiding the hourly libertarian thread spam over the forthcoming weeks.
Jack Walker
>without border controls ok thats the issue
If you lived in a nigger-tier slum would you leave you door open? Would you not keep firearms, security, and insurance in case someone attempts to steal your valuables or harm your family?
Easton Harris
>It isn't funny, it's an attempt to subvert Sup Forums and a pathetic and blatant bid at making the popular symbol Pepe a figurehead of anarcho-capitalism which it never was or will be.
Henry Bennett
not an argument
Samuel Adams
Why can't fascists and libertarians just get along? We need to unite against the leftists, especially Marxist kikes
Matthew Adams
Without border controls there will be a lot more slums. Yeah, individual people can and should protect themselves. But the national government should also work to prevent the country from being overrun.
Adam Gutierrez
Not arguing, I'm laughing at you.
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Luis Fisher
> making the popular symbol Pepe a figurehead of anarcho-capitalism which it never was or will be
You're right, Matt #SavePepe
Isaac Ross
this board has had libertarians as long as it had nazism. you should know this, since most people here had started as libertarians and moved over toward white nationalism. besides from projection strawman, ad hominem, and general delusion, nice argument.
Jackson Martin
Stop posting, you're embarrassing yourself. The level of butthurt in your posts is cringe. Heil Rothbard, Heil Hoppe.
Jason Thomas
Stop assuming for just a moment what I am proposing is what you have heard from meme ball threads and left libertarian circlejerks. People are individuals yes, but they have families which they will sacrifice for, and the family will sacrifice for their community etc. Community still exists even if libertarians wish that collectivism didn't. Communities will form borders strong where risk is high and low between friendly communities that are attempting to raise property value. People want to live where its safe, and increasing property values by employing the most effective border control possible, who by being invested in the actual community is more effective than a government hijacked by democracy. Fascism is a realistic alternative I would not mind, except for the issue of contract/private property law.
Gavin Hall
Anyone else /cryptolibertarian/ here?
Blake Clark
Hehe, funny you should say that.
My LTC bags from back when it was $4 are finally gonna pay off, lel.
I own BTC, ETH, ETC and some other shitty coins like PPC from back in the day.
You?
Jose Brooks
In a hoppean society who is the authority that decides who is an undesirable
Isaiah Phillips
Holding BTC, XMR, and ETH at the moment. I'm also gambling with small coins like MILO, LEPEN, BITB, and POSW.
I'd like to eventually dump all my money into REP, but I think it's overvalued at the moment. If only the Gnosis ICO wasn't so terribly set up I'd be in.
Gavin Lopez
The property owners.
Nathan Roberts
But an undesirable can own property
Matthew Nguyen
the market and all the people participating. Then there is enforcement by private security and private law, which depending on where you go from here could be based on natural law with some sort of community authority as opposed to a nameless faceless federal justice system
William Sullivan
The federal government should actively control immigration and provide border security, yes or no?
Landon Rivera
if you are lowering property values you may have to restitution your ass right out
Josiah Diaz
if a government exists like the federal government then the feds most BASIC function should be the strictest border security possible where only immigrants with willing private property recipients to bear all liabilities are allowed in
short answer: yes
John Myers
the only issue is a democratic government will always necessarily fail to do so.
Yeah, and an undisireable can become Fuhrer by seizing power, or be democratically elected. That's why we're culturally conservative. We wish not to sell our property to scumfucks what's your point?
Aiden Nguyen
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Landon Nelson
>ancap >nigger tries to enter someone's property >gets shot
>nigger tries to use toll road without paying >gets physically removed
>nigger is given permission by the cuck property owner to enter his property >rest of property owners shun the cuck (or not, depending on how much of a cuck they are, maybe in their private covenant they want niggers inside)
Read Hoppe. There is nothing more discriminatory than private property rights.
Luis Bell
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Zachary Carter
This is the top video on the website by the way.
Chase Robinson
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Robert Flores
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Jordan Lee
The right-wing currently controls the federal justice system. The supreme court is literally the best possible tool for actually getting libertarian concepts ingrained into law nowadays. I fully expect that we'll see the end of affirmative action and other forms of forced integration through supreme court judgements in the near future.
>the only issue is a democratic government will always necessarily fail to do so.
I might have agreed with you in the past, but things are different now.
Jason Barnes
>quote-mind
Jaxon Long
Mark Passio is as important as Hoppe to our movement.
Ian Stewart
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Grayson Clark
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Tyler Ross
Isn't Argentina the country where you have one of the best closed off residential neighborhoods where the walls keeping the degenerates at bay helped flood their homes during raining season?
Parker Campbell
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Dominic Robinson
For starters, in America it is already perfectly legal to shoot intruders, so that has no appeal to me. Why would I want to abolish the government just to get something that I already have? Also, you guys keep talking about fully privatized cities. What stops a fully privatized city from banning firearms completely? In that case, I would have LESS personal freedom than I have now.
Blake Hill
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Elijah Hughes
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Liam Cruz
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Wyatt Perry
>the market and all the people participating. Some sort of round table meeting? >as opposed to a nameless faceless federal justice system Does this matter for him? He is still getting removed. >That's why we're culturally conservative. Libertarians are not conservative, when the past means nothing to them >We wish not to sell our property to scumfucks what's your point? In this situation the sale has already been made and you need to get rid of him. Isnt this exactly the gun to your head metaphor always used here? Being a the mercy of a higher force, it being on a smaller scale does not matter when the outcome is the same
Carter Martin
Everyone in OP pic is a jew. Why don't go play on reddit, you're never going to convince Sup Forums to support a jewish movement.
James Ross
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Cooper Hall
Freedom is the power or right to act, speak, or think as one wants. Freedom is subjective. If you want to live in that city, then you have freedom.
Cooper James
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Kevin Miller
There was a boom of private residential neighborhoods, but I don't know if we're the best.
>Why would I want to abolish the government just to get something that I already have? To get the freedom that you don't have.
>What stops a fully privatized city from banning firearms completely?
The same thing that stops your country from banning firearms completely: armed people.
Evan Lopez
God, I love Hoppe. Too many (((libertarians))) ignore the effects of culture and beliefs in favor of universalism, e.g. "It's socially acceptable that Facebook censors conservatives because there shouldn't be a law against it." At best their attitude is cowardice, and at worst it's subversive.
Jace Hall
Ron Paul??
Justin Diaz
Insurance agencies would promote gun ownership and the teaching of responsible gun usage as to lower premium costs and discourage future crime. Cities that banned firearms would only attract people who dislike firearms and were willing to give up their most immediate means of self defense.
Gabriel Hughes
I want to be as optimistic as you, but statistical data proves otherwise. In fact without a significant change in bureaucratic structure and ruling elite/collapse of state, there has NEVER been an instance of rescinding state benefits. Obamacare is a good example. Given the option it will always degenerate to more tax more gib.
I am proud of what we have right now, and I pray to god that Trump can make use of the republican majority(ignoring the lefty shit neocons), and the right wing in the justice system (ICE news makes me particularly happy). However I cannot place my faith in man to do what is right only my hope. i fear that our civic system, designed with inherent flaws will be destined to fail. I hope I am wrong.
Henry Peterson
Politics is a Jewish sport.
Our movement is at first political, whilst after society is cleansed of subhumans who cannot activate their neocortex and come to the obvious conclusion we have, that all beings are sovereign and have God endowed natural rights - will only then after be little to do with politics. And more likely to be about feminine aspects of humanity which have been rejected because of repeated subversion of monetary systems, religion and government institutions, and any other form of authority that thrives through violence and not voluntary means.
Jonathan Hall
If Trump doesn't change course the only solution is FULL ACCELERATION.
Owen Thomas
Oops wrong pic sorry, here is a picture of a Psychopath. They are notorious for having no ability for empathy. They were literally denied in their childhood the proper neuro peptides and developmental processes (whether through abuse or nutrition or whatever) to development the only part of the brain that is actually human, capable of art, music, etc. They live off the limbic or reptilian brain.
Essentially what the Libertarian Right movement is doing without noticing, is purging society of those who have literal swiss cheese for brains
Blake King
Do you understand how the market works? Also it matters when the justice system has no stake in protecting you but rather the degenerate who represent his constituency.
Colton Young
>the justice system has no stake Because the jury system was subverted.
Ryan Ward
>Libertarians are not conservative, when the past means nothing to them
Thanks for projecting faggot. Now fuck off you low IQ potato drinking nigger.
Kevin Brooks
the only solution may be the final solution, maybe see it in my lifetime
Jacob Sanchez
Im trying to put it in a practical perspective. Also its easy to put everything libertarian in an ideal situations where everything magically works but everything state related in the most negative light. You assumptions should go both ways How is that a projection, its true. Neither the past nor de distant future matter to the individualist. also epik adhoms my friend
Ian Anderson
it wont be subverted when the judges are neighbors and aquaintences or friends, and are a part the the community rather than a marxist from washington DC
Nolan Fisher
Nobody here arguing against libertarianism is favour of the american system
Ian Butler
>Neither the past nor de distant future matter to the individualist Are you stating that no individualist is a conservative? Rather 'the state' has to force conservatism onto all?