What if Hitler relinquished power to Rommel in 1940?

What if Hitler relinquished power to Rommel in 1940?

There is no fucking way in hell Germany could have fought off the soviet swarm

Does anyone actually believe Hitler would be dumb enough to open up another front? He clearly had no choice but to attack Russia, but why?

If it were up rommel, Germany would have defended frances beaches from the allies. With enough harsh defeats on the shores the allies have would sue for peace and Germany would then be able to focus on the Russians

Fuck that sounds like a much better plan than invading Russia in the winter without proper jackets/clothing.

The first months after the invasion, the German army had extraordinary success.
The wiped out a good portion of the Russian forces in the surprise first strike, and for a time it did look like Hitler could win.
But winter stalled the offensive and the Soviets managed to turn it into a war of attrition.
It was also unexpected that the Russians would fight to the bitter end and make such sacrifices.

tl-dr: Germany could have won

Because Stalin was going to. Hitler wanted to control the narrative so he atacked first. Best defense is offense.

>tl-dr: Germany could have won

The road to hell is lined with good intentions. Germany needed a cold, strong, strategist (Rommel), not a pure ideologue (Hitler) at this point.

Did some research on this guy
Rommel was a literal genius and merciful
He would have ended the war immediately, maybe even stopped all the ethnic cleansings

are you so sure about that? why would Stalin want to do that? he did not become aggressive after WW2, just took advantage of the opportunity to grab land. I just don't see the guy acting like a conqueror attacking the most powerful army in Europe at that time. doesn't make sense.

How do you think so much of the Soviet air force was destroyed in the first few days of the invasion? Stalin was preparing to invade, just that he had a later date for it.

Hitler should have let Stalin invade, though, and justify invading Russia as a defense against the very real Bolshevik threat.

Nice meme. Hitler was a megalomaniac driven by an intense hatred of Stalin. That's why he invaded the Soviets.

Throughout the war, Hitler's direct involvement was a blessing and a curse, because his ambition drove his engineers and scientists to come up with insane devices and technologies that propelled the rest of the world into what we enjoy as the 21st century, but he was also short-sighted and had delusions of grandeur and had no history of pragmatic solutions like his generals did, leading to idiotic choices that inevitably lead to germany's defeat, like redirecting resources from projects that were known to work such as the Panzerkampfwagen IV's and their variants, to instead pursue gigantic and over engineered tanks like the King Tiger and the Panther "medium" tanks.

Instead of allowing a more free form atmosphere when it came to decision making in the eastern front in terms of strategy and engineering, he chose to oversee the entire invasion. He assumed that because of their quick victories over Poland and France that his tactical genius would lead to a clean death to the soviets, and you can see that in his quote about the USSR, stating that it was a rotten house that only needed a good kick to knock it all down. Ironically, he was quite right in that regard but for the wrong reasons. He thought if they just overwhelmed them psychologically and did their blitzkrieg into the russian homeland that they would've surrendered, but instead if they had focused entirely on moscow the russian's strategic command would've completely fallen to bits as literally everything ran through moscow. All the trains merged in moscow, all the roads converged onto moscow, all the telegrams ran through moscow. It was literally the single hub of power in Russia. If the germans had focused on Moscow and then moved onto other targets, the russians would've not only been disorientated, but without leadership leading to splintered army fragments acting without orders which would've been easy pickings for the trained Wehrmacht.


tl;dr Hitler was an idiot and should've trusted his generals.

he probably saw what was going on and thought he would be next. I see Stalin more as an opportunist, he would have waited until america and britain had beaten them down a good bit.

Then why did Germany and Russia engage in research treaties throughout the pre-war period. If they hated each other as much as you think wouldn't they have refused to cooperate at all with the enemy?

tl;dr
But hey, yeah, generals were right, but Hitler was losing reality and then losing his shit, he wasn´t mentally prepared to endure the combat fatigue

I mean like, the first T-34's were developed with Rheinmetall guns.

Let me tell you something.
We did not start WW2 guys
it was poland who invaded our Radio Station!!

>not Mannstein
>not Guderian
>not Dönitz

This is a little tidbit not everyone is aware of.

Of course, revisionists turned the incident into a false flag staged by the "SS", with one "expert" stating that not only did the disguised SS soldiers storm a random radio station, but they killed all the guards using polish weapons, and then when they captured the radio they broadcast a message in PERFECT POLISH.

>muh rommel

the fuck is up with you normies and rommel. yes he was good, but germany had countless of other equal or better tacticians.

ever heard of guderian or von manstein? probably not, you just saw a documentary about rommels success in africa and you now think that he was some sort of supernatural general that could win any war.

Hitler invaded because the Soviets were prepared to stage an offensive that would take over the entirety of Europe. Even after the war, Patton admitted before he died that; we have defeated the wrong enemy. If we don't stop Communism, the war is lost. Hitler invasion was a preemptive strike to withhold the Soviets from advancing into the Reich. It was an attempt to save Europe, however unsuccessful. Unfortunately, the snow fell, and defeated the beasts only rival. After Stalingrad, we now all live under Communist, Zionist-occupied governments.

Okay, well either one of those. Point remains the same.

If the japs would have shown more aggression against the soviet union then the siberian troops wouldn't have been moved to Stalingrad. Without them Germany taking Stalingrad would have been really likely following Moscow a few months later. Back when invading France Hitler should have focused on crushing the anglo forces in France. If that would have been the case Eternal anglo would have lost the air battle in 1940 and Germany would have successfully conquered them. Not following the italians in Africa would have been better too. No country would ahve stood a chance against the 6th army and Rommel's troops combined.

What if we reported all the slide threads?

I feel like the linchpin in this whole ordeal was Italy. They couldn't fight against Britain alone, they weren't able to create a strong enough defensive position in morocco to prevent an invasion, and their navy was laughable compared to the British. No wonder the Germans used Italian ships as target practice when the allies started invading italy.

can anyone explain to me why nazi uniforms look so good?

Because they were all about their image before the war. Hitler was actually starting the plans to reconstruct Berlin from the ground up, making it into a super-city designed for massive populations. We're talking massive highways, giant train stations, grandiose government buildings.

Like imagine Rome, except everything concrete and german.

Hugo Boss was the designer.

>reddit: the thread

tl;dr

now look at germany.. oh how the mighty have fallen

>weneedtogoback.meme

Despite his successes in France and him having Hitlers favor Rommel was a literally who? in 1940 as he had not yet been to north Africa to fight the Brits. the Nazi leadership of Goering and Hess(before his stupid shit) would try to contest any succession and the SS would probably object to following him as well. the German people probably wouldn't buy it as Rommel had no political experience and his lack of prominence in any prior Nazi role would lead to the Nazi party entering a awfully confused mess.

now if this was '42 or '43 more German people could stomach the idea as Rommel reputation would have existed by that point but i doubt it would have been good as a transfer of leader ship from the party to some one not in would have set a good excuse for a SS coup led by some of the Nazi leadership who would have been dissatisfied with being passed over for the leadership position.

>Supply lines? Was sind diese?

Stop talking BS.

These. Von Mannstein was a strategic genius, he had the big picture in mind. You guys should read his book.

Rommel was far more effective on the Operational/Tactical level commanding Armor Divisions.

I fucking hate dumb niggers like you
>Germany invaded the USSR in the Winter ... that was so dumb ehehe
No you fucking nigger , Germany invaded the USSR in 22 of June if you dumbfuck don't know, that is Summer

Nazis are always hated and always will be after learning more about them its just sad the whole nazi idea and war . first off why didnt hitler just force jews away from germany instead of killing them. Why didnt hitler stay peaceful and let others attack him . also he lost so his soldiers were just regular men with guns not aryans . even if aryans existed there gone now . almost everyones blood is mixed somehow . so what we should do is quit acting like nazis and just become stronger individuals not thoughtless slaves . the third reich had good ideas but genociding the jews never worked how he intended so why keep fighting . we should embrace our relative countries have pride in that and fight for our own causes

If hitler convinced italy and japan to open up fronts on ussr instead of attacking greece and america, he would have won

btfo shill

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