Aleksander Dugin

>Aleksander Dugin

What do you think of him and his geopolitical vision?

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Prokhanov
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Ukrainians are the best race out of the "Russias"

i'm a russian nationalist putinboo and i think dugin is a giant faggot. he's way too obsessed with occultism and weird pagan shit

I think that Ukraine should be partitioned, Romania, POLAND, Russi, Hungary, and Slovakia should all get a peice but I think we should leave 2 sovereign states as a buffer zone specifically a state in Kiev and one in Odessa west of the Dnipro river.

It sounds like Russia he's describing. They had a brief run at the top of the ladder for a few decades and they see it as normal. Russia is too vast, isolated, and poor to be considered a major power. They're holding onto scraps of their former prestige. It's time for Russia to come to terms with it's status as a second rate vaguely European power.

Old imperialism in new rags. Postmodern twist on Evola and Guenon, all in the name of the Third Rome. Boring after a while

Like that?

Come on. In a moment Russia will implode under its own weight.

people have been saying that for centuries

That pic is some kind of mind pollution. The Baltics, Poland, Western Ukraine, SE Europe, the Caucuses all see Russia as a major geopolitical threat. Why would they consider themselves part of a Russian "sphere" of influence? Again, Dugan believes some temporary glory in the 20th century is somehow the norm for Russia instead of an aberration.

Here's an exercise. Let's list the nuclear powers and what they have going for them. Without nukes, Russia has almost nothing. It's geography, demographics, and economic institutions have almost nothing to offer that can save it. Without nukes, Russia would see a massive drop off in it's standing and prestige internationally whereas all the other nuclear powers could maintain their international standing.

I know very little about Dugin. Can you please elaborate?

Over my dead body.

Jfc this shit looks like something you get after leaving AI play a round of EU4 for a night.

Dugin will be our Führer against zog and mudraces

Guy is an idiot if he thinks a non-Slavic state like Romania wants anything to do with a mongol steppe state like Russia.

The only thing we ever had in common was the Communist plague they spread in Eastern Europe and that was because that traitorous cunt Churchill divided Europe with Stalin, throwing half of Europe to the Reds.

Culturally we have nothing to do with Slavs.

Rasputin 2: The Devil's Boogaloo

he's a fagwad neopagan who believes in chaos magick and dumb shit like that. his book "the fourth political theory" even has a chaos star on the cover

Sup Forums will probably love him tbqh considering all the retarded "kek" shit that fags on here believe in

nationalreview.com/article/380614/dugins-evil-theology-robert-zubrin

I'm literally shaking

>kisses the ass of a literal satanist
>posts a pic of a crusader knight
neck yourself, bernd

into the tras....

oh, he's already there

True. Only because they got bred by moderate polish cock.

>Muh 4th position
>Muh end times

He is, basically, a Molymeme level media personality, and he was kicked from university too. An insignificant guy turned into a meme like the Bogdanoffs I guess.

>Sup Forums will probably love him tbqh considering all the retarded "kek" shit that fags on here believe in

>half of Europe into German sphere of influence

generous, desu

>Culturally we have nothing to do with Slavs.
Who are your cultural relatives then? And for the love of god don't fall for the muh Romance languages meme, you are nothing like Italy or France.

just remember fedora, russia has been an ORTHODOX land for a thousand years. there is no russian empire without Christ as the king and based putin knows that even if you don't

What are you talking about? Dugin's political channel is almost exclusively about the importance of religion in Russia. He's an absolute Orthodoxboo

youtube.com/channel/UCGyRJrPfxens99weKll-Stghttps:

>reminder that if you support Dugin you can't ever shave
also the man is the genius

What's his view on Jews and Israel?

>What do you think of him and his geopolitical vision?

Globalism with traditional views on the surface. Basically a civic nationalist who wants to spread influence to asian countries since they are in arm's length of Russia.

>decades
I think you mean centuries
They've been a global power longer than your country has existed

In 90's young Dugin was taking drugs and having homosexual relationships in so-called «Southerners coterie» or «Южинcкий кpyжoк» in russian. Also it called «Black Order SS». The members of this coterie were alchemists (especially Evgenii Golovin), deserters (Yurii Mamleev), islamic fundamentalists (Geydar Jemal), traditionalists and others. Also Dugin was very into thelema, occultism, gnosticism and hermeticism. He was initiated in local Moscow masonic lodge in mid 90's.

Then he turned mad and become orthodoxy christian (but he still doing gnostic masses), political whore etc.

No. They've simply existed longer than the US. They haven't been major players in European politics until the late 19th century. Even in the Napoleonic era they played a subordinate role.

They were not powerful. They simply existed out on the periphery of European geography, politics, and intellectual thought.

>n 90's young Dugin was taking drugs and having homosexual relationships in so-called «Southerners coterie»

tl;dr he's a faggot

It's a fact of common knowledge in russian internet. Initiation in «Black Order SS» considered eating its member's cum.

Are the any links, videos, anything supporting that?
I understand Russian

Sound as a Pound.
Sam Hyde is attempting to become A Western Version of Him.

kek

btw why do russians defend this degenerate rasputin character?

>In 90's
in 80`s

in 90`s he was about Nazbol party

DA SMERT`

Probably because he visions Russia and Russians as an important factor in the future geopolitical games. What's there not to like?

the whole degeneracy part. If he was good and clean orthodox it would be one thing, but..

He's clearly Studied Evola.
I like that.

>What do you think of him and his geopolitical vision?

A complete pile of shit.

There's a debate between him and a Brazilian philosopher translated to English if anyone cares. Dugin accuses Olavo of being American instead of Brazilian.
debateolavodugin.blogspot.com/

>nationalreview.com/article/380614/dugins-evil-theology-robert-zubrin
I read through the article. I must say this is complete and utter shit, even worse than Dugin's geopolitical predictions

So was Hitler, an occultist with way too courageous plans for their nation. And would you believe, he failed when he got hit by reality.

>Complaining about occultism
>on Sup Forums
Lol, you DO know that We harnessed the Power of an Ancient Egyptian God to Win The Biggest Election ever last year, right? I hate everything to do with satan alright, but I see no harm in studying Ancient Gods.

He lost the debate against Olavo de Carvalho

B 89-м ecли быть тoчным. Haцбoлoм oн cтaл yжe в cepeдинe 90-х, кoгдa их тycoвкa нapикoв-фaшиcтoв paзвaлилacь.

Cтpaннo чтo ты нe в тeмe. Пoтoмy чтo любoй, ктo тaк или инaчe знaкoм c иcтopиeй южинcкoгo кpyжкa, знaeт этo. Пoпpoбyй пoиcкaть вocпoминaния члeнoв, или пpocтo пoceтитeлeй. Eщё, кaжeтcя, былa книгa, нaзывaлacь кaк-тo вpoдe "Гpязнoe бeльe oппoзиции", тaм вcё былo пoдpoбнo pacпиcaнo.

>orthodoxboo
>practices witchcraft
pick one and only one

not

Is it actual satan-worshipping witchcraft? Or is it just intrigue in other Gods? Because the latter is harmless, but the former is disgusting.

>Even in the Napoleonic era they played a subordinate role

>beat the fuck out of napoleon

do you realize how far is russia in napoleonic metric?

do you realize how wast it is in modern metric in which US (as alleged global super power) can't beat bunch of goat fuckers in the afganistan (not to mention other wars US have lost in last 50 years)

He supposedly worships chaos! not Satan. The proof is supposed to be the logo on his publications.

On the other hand there's his fucking channel full of Orthodox indoctrination.
I think the rumors about his alchemic and occult past are way too inflated

>Пoтoмy чтo любoй, ктo тaк или инaчe знaкoм c иcтopиeй южинcкoгo кpyжкa, знaeт этo
Я нe знaкoм c этим, вoт пoчeмy я cпpocил.
Я знaкoм c тeм чтo Дyгин пpeдcтaвляeт в "Чeтвepтoй пoлитичecкoй тeopиии"

>can't beat bunch of goat fuckers in the afganistan.
Do I even have to explain how little sense that makes? The US triumphed mightily. Except the Taliban is an ethnic-nationalist movement. People are born into it instead of joining. The Taliban live there for fucks sake. The only way to "beat" them is genocide.

As far as Russia, they have always been at the periphery of Europe until the late 19th century. During the Napoleonic era they were simply...around.

Not that guy but i'll answer you.
The answer is NO ONE
NO FUCKING CULTURAL RELATIVES

See, we had a tough childhood:
We were a branch of the indo-europeans in the beginning. So were the italics who founded rome.
Then the romans conquered a quarter of our land. This and our shared ancestry led us in the modern age to speak a variation of latin that, for geopolitical reasons in the 19th century, gave rise to the Romance language meme.
After the romans gave up and went home we got invaded by every barbarian known to europe which plagued our now tribal society for most of the dark ages.
Then, around the 13th century, we organized into three states.
Then the slavs came, pushed by the mongols, but by then we were pretty much entrenched and they passed through, over the danube and settled bulgaria.
Then we fought on multiple fronts for about 800 years non stop:
To the west the magyars who wanted transylvania, took it for a while but didn't know what to do with it so we took it back.
To the east the tribes displaced by the mongols, some mongolian in ancestry also, most notably the tatar.
And to the south the fucking ottoman empire which we managed to keep at bay for the most part so that europe could go and colonize the world.... through some creative cultural appropriation since our numbers couldn't match theirs, pic related.
Then we freed the gypsies and didn't deport them. Mistake no1.
Then some traitorous politicians destroyed our governing system and brought a foreign king to be their puppet but he turned on them and united the country so i'll give him a pass for that.
Then we entered ww2 on the right side of history but we were too far under the soviet plague and a coup took out most of the leadership and forced the king into turning against germany.
Then we got sold to stalin for his little genocidal experiment which destroyed all of our elite ruling class and made the untermensch breed like rabbits.
So NO. We have no cultural relatives. At least i don't.

>The US triumphed mightily. Except the Taliban is an ethnic-nationalist movement. People are born into it instead of joining. The Taliban live there for fucks sake. The only way to "beat" them is genocide.

So you haven't beat them? That shit was same always from Vietnam to Syria, you just fail to understand the second - If the taliban is something they're born into, just fucking leave it there or kill it by genocide.

> As far as Russia, they have always been at the periphery of Europe

Yes, if you look at the map, that is completely true. On the map.

>Why would they consider themselves part of a Russian "sphere" of influence?
Because they'll be sold to the Russians just like the first time. Do you think Eastern Europe actually wanted the Soviet rule?

He didn't lose really. It was a typical debate between two philosophers of similar strain, but different aspect of it reminiscent of Chomsky-Foucault. Both debates were unfruitful as in both cases philosophers were coming from different premises they didn't bother to discuss and only argued about the consequences that follow from their respective premises. Obviously, the line of thinking Carvalho advises is logical if we accept his premise and so is Dugin's if we accept his. Same happened between Chomsky-Foucault.

>I'm a special snowflake
Ok but since you're not strong enough to make your own sphere of influence you have to look for allies, countries who have similar values to yours.
Watching from afar I think you're a typical post-soviet country struggling with typical post-soviet problems which makes you similar to many "Slavic" countries.

Dugin is a retard, russia is far too weak to even contemplate eruasian ambitions.

Thanks, this is great huebro!

That is repulsive.

>>Guy is an idiot if he thinks a non-Slavic state like Romania wants anything to do with a mongol steppe state like Russia.

You're not going to have the choice of doing what you want or not. Geopolitics has always had the bigger guys strong-arming the smaller guys. The present situation of Ukraine is an example that shows reality of the limits of sovereignty and free determination for weaker states.

Chomsky and Foucault are not Philosophers.
Chomsky is a linguist and Foucault is just a fraud, a cultural Marxist propagandist.

In that regard of course we are. The problem is we're not slavs. We don't share that much of a cultural background. Sure, some tribes stayed, we have slav DNA mixed in ours, we have slav words mixed in our language, but not enough to change our culture fundamentally.

And the bigger problem is the value system. I wasn't kidding about the untermensch. We are basically a country of gypsies and native undesirables. They all live on wellfare. Because of that they all vote socialist. And socialist when coming out of communism means actual communist, not the usefull idiots that the leftists are in the west. So it comes down to "beggars can't be choosers".
We are a country of beggars ran by beggars who beg the EU for scraps and who, in turn, throw their resulting scraps at our beggars. Democracy doesn't work in socialism as you well know once the majority becomes dependant on said scraps. And we have no way of getting out of this hole. We'll be the EU's lapdog for as long as the EU stands.

You can't have cultural allies if you don't have culture to begin with and no will to define it.

I see no other way than individual emigration...

lel foucault is definitely not a marxist.

Well that's good then.
By the sound of it any one of the Russian Bros on here could be Him!

After watching this I say that Poles and Ukrainians are the scum of the earth.

Dugin is too obscure freak, Prohanov is more famous in Russia.

He keeps losing his job.
Only right about patriotic corruption.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Prokhanov
But they are both still meme-tier clowns.

Anyone unironically linking to the fucking national review (especially not archived) is a neocon tbqh.

And yea, their ideas are definitely more shit. I've never read Dugin but I say this with utter surety, still.

I hope he dies painfully

Chomsky and Foucault were not philosophers professionaly or even academically, but they fall under what constitutes a philosopher - "one who practices conceptual reasoning". I despise them both for different reasons, but Chomsky without a doubt is a figure within analytic philosophy and Foucault works investigate concepts of post-modern philosophy, subjective ontology of the world, psychoanalysis within a framework of continental philosophy. Along with Lacan he's the last of the weird strain of psychatrists that romanced with philosophy in 20th century.

Yes, he was a cultural Marxist.
His mentor was Louis Althusser, and he was communist.
He just abandoned traditional Stalinism during his life, to embrace cultural Marxism.