Should prostitution be legal?

What exactly is wrong with prostitution being legal?

>prohibiting it doesn't stop or significantly reduce it and costs taxpayers countless dollars in legal and enforcement fees
>legalizing it would put dirty, std/sti-ridden skanks out of business as the market would bring in cleaner and more attractive women to compete
>would reduce the amount of underage prostitutes as customers would find the legal option of young-looking 18 year-olds far less risky than searching for underage girls on the street
>would provide taxable revenue for the state
>would allow sexually frustrated NEETS an alternative to deranged hentai
>would reduce the flow and influence of dangerous sex-trafficking rings
>may help reduce adultery by replacing affairs with one-night stands to blow off steam

I don't like the fact that people feel the need but as long as they do it's better to organize the practice on our terms instead of on criminals' terms. Discuss.

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>an alternative to deranged hentai
>deranged
>hentai
It's art you uncultured swine.

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>>prohibiting it doesn't stop or significantly reduce it and costs taxpayers countless dollars in legal and enforcement fees
The taxpayer would still have to pay for it if it was legal.

>legalizing it would put dirty, std/sti-ridden skanks out of business as the market would bring in cleaner and more attractive women to compete
You've never been to a foreign brothel, i can tell.

>would reduce the amount of underage prostitutes as customers would find the legal option of young-looking 18 year-olds far less risky than searching for underage girls on the street
That's not why there are underage prostitutes.

>would provide taxable revenue for the state
Oh boy.

>would allow sexually frustrated NEETS an alternative to deranged hentai
That's not a positive outlet for their issues.

>would reduce the flow and influence of dangerous sex-trafficking rings
They'll find other work.

>may help reduce adultery by replacing affairs with one-night stands to blow off steam
May replace families with one night stands to blow off steam.

>The taxpayer would still have to pay for it if it was legal.
How?

>You've never been to a foreign brothel, i can tell.
Foreign hotels, hospitals, and airports are also often dirty as shit, but not as much in America. America is better at regulating industries towards cleanliness and sustainability than India, Thailand, or Lebanon. It wouldn't be hard to set up a system of regular std checks and basic standards of sanitation in an American brothel.

>That's not why there are underage prostitutes.
That's a non-answer. It would reduce the number.

>Oh boy.
Can be very useful if kept track of.

>That's not a positive outlet for their issues.
It's better than being completely antisocial and becoming absorbed in their own insanity

>They'll find other work.
Again, a non-answer. It would reduce kidnapping/sex-trafficking

>May replace families with one night stands to blow off steam.
Adultery is worse for families than hookers.

i'll allow it if it's the sloot in your OP pic that i get to stick my cock inside of

She's on call tonight.

Taxpayer already pays for it. The court ststems. The "sting opperations". Legal and regulated brothels is a new source of tax revenue, a "sin tax" that can further alleviate taxes on common consumer goods, can lower the spread of disease and reduce the profitability and frequency of human trafficking.

>they will find other work.

Less profitable work. Less frequent work.

Moonshining went down pretty hard after the 21st Amendment.

Fuck, why do you think regulations and scarcity have no effect on black markets, but only when we are reducing government prohibition.

By your logic, but applied consistently, prostitution might as well be legalized because it would have no effect.

>may replace families

This protestant view that marriage is just a loophole to what is otherwise protestant is cancerous. That sex has to be at the heart of the family.

As a result, church pews are full of divorcees because "the spark" died.

This will never be allowed to happen because it would destroy the pussy market overnight. Women would have to be worth something besides artificially increasing their value via the pussy embargo they have established.

Good thing women still aren't the primary policy makers.

sign me up. that's one crazy i'd risk putting my dick in

I am curious of how women would respond now that their only bargaining chip is being made useless.

>How?
Fines, licencing, social degradation, loss of retail space, etc etc.

>It wouldn't be hard to set up a system of regular std checks and basic standards of sanitation in an American brothel.
Is that based on a conclusive cost-analysis or your gut?

>That's a non-answer. It would reduce the number.
No, it wouldn't. The market for that would still exist. Gonna tell me gun control works next?

>Can be very useful if kept track of.
Selling your soul ought to be useful, considering the immense cost.

>It's better than being completely antisocial and becoming absorbed in their own insanity
They still would be. They're not learning interpersonal skills by paying someone to like them.

>Again, a non-answer. It would reduce kidnapping/sex-trafficking
Again, you have not destroyed the market for that.

>Adultery is worse for families than hookers.
Families can exist, at least, with adultery. Fewer people will go through the trouble of forming real relationships with women if they can just fuck one for some cash.

Legalizing pot has just made poverty issues worse as well. You can't just give everyone everything they want.

There would be male prostitutes and women would ride the cock carousel until their bodies gave out.

Families would become quite rare. And as for "safer" i'm pretty sure they only test the girls every few weeks/months.

woman sells her body as an exchange good for money. state cant go into ppls private deals

it's simply impossible unless you literally have a dictatorship
(i'm all for it btw)

>another libshit "it happens illegally just legalize it lol" argument
Just because you went to daycare as a child doesn't mean morality goes down the drain.

the simple and short answer: yes.
next question.

Holes don't want prostitution because it devalues their sex appeal. Why deal with some vapid, selfish roastie who will ruin your life (and has fucked dozens of dudes) when you can give a whore and not have to pretend like you give a fuck about them? It's the same reason holes will never let sexbots ever become a widespread reality.

New Zealand has legal prostitution. It honestly doesn't affect me in anyway.

why aren't you balls deep in a hooker right now?

he"s some conservitavie married looser

I want to pimp your sweet ass out on the street OP, just for reposting this shitty thread over and over. Make you dress like that pic.

>Fines, licencing, social degradation, loss of retail space, etc etc.
Fines are given to particular responsible parties, not the broad base of taxpayers. How would "social degradation" cost taxpayers anything? Therapy fees for impoverished prostitutes? What do you mean that "loss of retail space" will cost taxpayers?

>Is that based on a conclusive cost-analysis or your gut?
It's based on the fact that its done this way in The Netherlands, Switzerland, and Las Vegas.

>No, it wouldn't. The market for that would still exist. Gonna tell me gun control works next?

We should legalize prostituion = we should ban guns? Are you looking at what you type before you post? If anything my argument could be compared to someone AGAINST gun control as it would put illegal gun runners out of business. The market for underage girls would still exist but it would take a big hit by those more risk-averse is my point. When you can easily find an 18 year-old who looks 14 you may think twice before going after a 14 year-old on the street. The market for per-pubescent girls would still exist but I'm not claiming legalizing prostitution would solve every problem.

>Selling your soul ought to be useful, considering the immense cost.
What the fuck are you even talking about?

>They still would be. They're not learning interpersonal skills by paying someone to like them.
Fair point

>Again, you have not destroyed the market for that.
You've hit it with a MOAB. Maybe there will be remnants left, but if you can get pussy easily, in most every major city, affordably, legally, you'll be less likely to pay under-the-table for some sex slave you can go to prison for life for having. If people aren't paying for said slaves as much, the risk of acquiring them completely outweighs the potential benefit.

>Families can exist, at least, with adultery. Fewer people will go through the trouble of forming real relationships with women if they can just fuck one for some cash.

cont.

>holes will never let sexbots ever become a widespread reality
They're already happening. They'll have a robotic head and be able to speak soon. There's a company making them with a mobile app that allows to customize her AI.

But they won't become a widespread reality mostly because they're expensive and most people would absolutely not be satisfied by that. They want to be with a thinking, feeling human beings. They want affection, intimacy and love.
>inb4 women don't love
>inb4 women don't think
>inb4 women only think about themselves and love shoes

We might have robot brothels sooner than we think though. It'll be interesting to see if this catches on. While most people want to be with a human being, they feel bad about being with prostitutes and it's pretty awkward. But not so with robots. Robots don't care. They don't judge you.

If you put a camera in front of paid sex, it's porn and very legal.

>Families can exist, at least, with adultery. Fewer people will go through the trouble of forming real relationships with women if they can just fuck one for some cash.

But that's already happening. No point in dealing with holes when they can ruin your life in half a dozen ways. How would having a safe avenue to relieve sexual desire somehow make families more or less appealing? If anything, it might force holes to start acting like humans again.

>They're already happening

And they're already being squashed. A sexdoll brothel in Europe was shut down because whores in a brothel complained that the dolls were cutting into their business. Even hookers have enough women pull to get the men on top to ban shit. Mark my words, the better and/or cheaper sexbots get, the more you'll see holes pushing back against it.

>They want affection, intimacy and love.

You won't get that from holes. They may give you a taste initially, but they'll make you pay for it in misery and loss a hundred times over. You're just a gullible tradcon if you think otherwise. Besides, women are not that complicated. If we can make a believable SI that can learn to a small degree, then women will become obsolete aside from breeding. ALL their power comes from sex. Without that, women are near worthless. It's time they remember that so they can stop fucking up society.

I would fuck her even if her pussy stinks

>Families can exist, at least, with adultery. Fewer people will go through the trouble of forming real relationships with women if they can just fuck one for some cash.
Adultery leads to divorce 60% of the time. The statistics for prostitution are less available but I'd reason that a wife would be more forgiving in the case of her husband paying a hooker for sex than for him to spend considerable time and resources with another woman, investing in her as a potential alternative to said wife.

>Legalizing pot has just made poverty issues worse as well. You can't just give everyone everything they want.
It's provided a lot of taxable revenue for infrastructure in CO and WA, and in MI where it's medicinally legal, and has increased poverty among those who already didn't want to work or couldn't be bothered to try hard enough to find a job. You can't just making everything you don't like illegal.

> Fair point
that's the whole idea why trump needs to win
it's true, but you can not literally run every single detail of a person's life in some obscure think tank
not everybody is your enemy and not everybody is a complete moron

Not an argument.

>fines, licencing
Are you a retard? That is the prostitution market and prostitution consumers paying.

This is litterally the opposite of a financial burden to you if yoy don't seek prostitution yoyrself.

>social degredation
An abstract concept you would have to measure on why its presense in a legal and regulatef capacity would be worse.

This is the same "muh degeneracy" argument that encouraged Alchohol Prohibition.

>loss of retail space
Jesus fuck how many brothels do you think there would be? You can just fit what we already do with strip clubs. It isn't going to be between a RadioShack and a WholeFoods.

>Std checks, whats that based on?

Litterally every legal practice of prostitution at official locations in the developed world, including the legal American ones.

>Nuh uh, the market would still exist.

You dense motherfucker.

Exist =/= same degree of profitability.

But it would obviously be effected. Jesus fuck what part of supply and demand do you not understand.

Prohibition had an effect on Alchohol consumption, it actually went up, was more poisonous per litre than what used ti be regulated brewing standards, and had more social costs.

But it appeased muh degeneracy types so there is that.

Legslizing prostitution, just like alchohol, would reduce the ills.

By ills i mean actual, measurable harms. Not your feelings.

It would reduce human trafficking.

>Fewer people will go thtough the trouble of forming real relationships with women if they can just fuck someone for cash.

Marriage is already dead if you think its only lasting foundation is a government drafted contract with some expectance of fucking.

That is not why people get married.

>Legalizing pot has just made poverty issues worse.

Citation needed.

Note: annecdotes of people losing jobs because of federal regulations imposed on employers is an ill caused by its federal prohibition, not the state legalization.

>Brazilians

prostitution is literally the same as working in an office.
both are selling their mind and body for cash, no discussions.

Prostitution? I don't have a problem.. tattoos however...

>And they're already being squashed.
DAMMIT
>You won't get that from holes.
tbf some women have a hard time getting it from men too. It's mostly on them though. They chose to be with the men they're with. Women are the selectors. It's due to their own priorities.
But still, plenty of people find love. No need to generalize so much. It's just that gender relations are getting more and more fucked up and people don't even care anymore.
>Besides, women are not that complicated.
They are though. Human beings are incredibly complicated. It'll be a while before being with a robot is truly like being with another person.
But many people choose not to have very meaningful relationships with their "lovers". They intentionally don't want to get too attached (unlike with their real friends). Seems like more and more people don't really have "gfs/bfs", just fuckbuddies.
When it's like that, yeah sex robots start to make sense.
Most men will BY FAR prefer to have sex with real women though.
Porn and sex toys didn't make women "obsolete" either heh.
>ALL their power comes from sex.
Pretty much. Sex is better with another willing human being though. Or at least it should be. Prostitutes aren't really willing, that's what makes it not so great. And robots aren't even alive.

people involved should did decide that
I don't care
I'm more interested in rape, being a real man, I want to rape and discriminate women.

Well, if you want to risk your livelihood, career, children, and sanity on the idea of finding a qt unicorn that "isn't like the other girls" then I won't stop you. But the warnings are there.

>They are though. Human beings are incredibly complicated

A sexbot doesn't need to fully emulate a woman though, it just needs to have a childlike intelligence and be able to fuck like a beast. I don't want the thing reciting poetry to me, I want to nut balls deep down its throat. You're mixing up waifubots and sexbots.

You're right that we won't really make women obsolete until we have convincing female androids (gyndroids?). I doubt I'll ever see that in my life though. The thought is nice though.

define legal

I think it should be legal, but the Jew will never allow it. First off birth rates would plummet for obvious reasons, less people less slaves. The infrastructure would crumble rapidly, especially as people start to age. Secondly the jew loses money, child support and alimony is a huge racket. Not to mention the transfer of money from men who spend and save their money wisely to woman who consume needlessly at a much higher rate. You may think that the jews losses would be mitigated by taxing the whores, but it would be hard to tax them effectively. Just think about how waiters never report all of their tips. In summary Jews need for profit out weighs their desire for degeneracy.

Heh, yeah, if they get them good enough where they can start to emulate porn, a lot of people would be OK with that. People already watch tons of porn. Next step is you make porn real.

>You're mixing up waifubots and sexbots.
Yeah. I do want my waifubot.

I wonder if feminists could start supporting sex bots because it would reduce rape and prostitution though. They should.

>And they're already being squashed

yes definitely amusing to see the fear and pushback on their side. However ultimately there's not much they can do. They can maybe shut down a brothel with humanoid robots but they won't be able to shut down VR/AR programs which are going to be the bulk of this industry.

some things are illegal simply because they're fucking degenerate

It might be needed to offset the rest of the degeneracy though.

I agree that waifubots are the ideal. Make women completely unnecessary, rather than just removing their power over sex. It'd be utopia I think.

>I wonder if feminists could start supporting sex bots because it would reduce rape and prostitution though. They should.

They won't. The power the idea of sex holds over men is far more valuable to women than the "threat" of rape and prostitution is.

VR/AR is no replacement for a real sexbot.

it's really diificult to make sex look like degenerate.

>VR/AR is no replacement for a real sexbot.

It can be with proper haptics.

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I'd have to experience that to determine if it was shit or not.

Dating women is legalized prostitution. What does Sup Forums know about /ourguy/ Marc Rudov?
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I fucking love this man, no homo

TAKE MY MONEY

It is legal in uk as long as no street soliciting takes place. Ukpunting forum for more info.

herpes

It's so enlightening to see some of the same anons who are looking for that virgin commenting on prostitution.

>Be Italian
>Prostitution is illegal
>Prostitutes everywhere
>Police don't give a fuck

It's nice to be Italian and pay taxes.

Nuke us.

fallacious
nnnnggg

Best Korea will nuke us all soon enough.

Legal, yes. Outcasts in society, yes. Something can be legal but the practisers of it shamed by society. Prositution has its place but prositutes should be shamed and monogamous relationships celebrated.

The classical problem with prostitution is that it gives women a financially viable alternative to virtuous monogamy. If women aren't locked into being good wives they'll always, always chose to be whores. If men can't find good wives they stop working and fighting for their country. This all countries depend upon controlling women. It's really that simple.

*thus all countries

I dont get why the discussion against prostitution... its legal in portugal and literally nobody gives a fuck about it because it doesnt affect others peoples lifes, same with drugs.

>get a life lmaoo!!
Damn women always make the sickest arguments. Still mad he only talked for like 30% of the video cause the two bitches can't shut up.

Except that we have already long ago given women plenty of lucrative and comfortable alternatives to virtuos monogamy. Now prostitution would take holes' power away from them, and encourage more women to be decent instead of whores.

Best digits tells the truth. I totally agree.

Yes because I have a 3.5 inch micropenis and it's the only way I can get laid.

I'm strangely confident you might be able to nuke them, not saying some military stuff, but it might be remotely possible, you might be stronger

Well, it's working here in Germany
I dunno why you americunts are so outdated

North Korea is our friend, we're safe

>pic related

Birth rates never plummet from prostitution, history shows this.

Its the other types of working women.

It's when women not being homemakers is the general trend rather than the exception.

In the age of your great grandmother sge would be a borderline spinster if her first child was at 25. For boomers, this was socially acceptable. For millenials, it's "so soon" to have a child.

The market is fucked. The idea of a single full time job supporting a family is fantastical. Too many workers. The system is now welfare dependent.

We see this with blacks especially. Jokes aside about them being inherently adulterous: the black family was more stable even when we were prying them appart for slave markets.

The welfare state killed the father. Women becoming "financially independent" necessitated the welfare state that women today depend on for food, housing, and child support.

Its just that middle class whites in fear of getting lower class are forgoing marriage and more children.

If anything, the opposition to prostitution is entirely based on (((Judeo)))Christian values to think this is the problem.

Prostitution is a distraction issue. Sure, societyband the economy is overall better off ending the prohibition but don't kid yourself that this chip somehow isn't an expendable one.

This isn't what is killing the family.

This isn't what is increasing dependency on the state.

Just you wait for the wild ride of the impact on the irrelevance of families with "basic income".

Bread and Circus with added Milk and Honey.

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That is a good point, but not entirely true because prostitution has been legal in many thriving empires in history. Ancient Greece, Rome, England, etc. Women did not ALWAYS choose to be whores.

Of course it should, perfectly legal. Also spreading venerial disease should be a criminal offense akin to assault.

Yeah sure, why not.

Fair.

bc most prostitutes these days are sex slaves for the people you despize the most.

>The classical problem
Modern society is pretty different now though.
Given that women have jobs and can be independent, and don't have to be wives and have families (and a lot of them choose not to), why is prostitution still illegal?

Most women would rather not be prostitutes. There's not even such a high demand anyway. Most men wouldn't want to be with a prostitute.

But seems like there's A LOT of camwhoring going on though. It's not prostitution but it's close. Like moldylocks. She's a good example. It's getting more common I think. It's free money for young women. I wonder just how common it is. With everyone being on the Internet now and women being so addicted to attention, it follows pretty naturally.

t. woman
fuck that
i'm not perfect
you neets aren't either
lol, i'm roleplaying woman on anonymyous funny board

Is that true? I think more and more of them are independent now. When you recruit them online anyway.

The fact that a government, an inanimate thing, can control what people do with their bodies, should tell you why it's wrong that it's illegal.

Legalizing prostitution doesn't also legalize trafficking, kidnapping, rape, pedophilia. But people should be able to do whatever the fuck they want with their bodies, and if someone wants to pay them, why the fuck not.

trudeau will immediealty bomb anyone mae jiokle ot trudau, I just didn't focus on him

Post a better escort next time.

no

he is probably the most untolerant guy you will find

fuck off, american leaf

feeling sorry you not reddit yet

Heads up folks: prostitutes won't start looking like the ones in the OP if you legalize stuffing Bennies in between pairs of sopping meat flaps

Maybe in NA where all your women are either build like a truck or are on crack.

no one would make any money because your mom will do it for free

Prostitution should be illegal but allowed to exist. Stop falling for the "what is legal is morally allowed" meme.

Pic in OP is not an escort. Just an eye-catcher minus the nudity.

Damn. Can they dress up as anime girls and act in character? Not super interested otherwise.

that's so fucking stupid. Do you just tell the police "hey, you're completely allowed to arrest this whore, but c'mon man, let it slide"?

>it should be illegal but allowed

We should have laws we don't enforce?

>stop falling for the "what is legal is morally allowed" meme

Stop thinking a lack of prohibition is a condonation.

Why not? That's the way it's always been done, legally permissible = morally permissible is a jew trick.

Ok I guess the police should vigorously enforce every law on the books then, I'm sure we'll all be happy and productive.

The problem is that doing this also reduces the enforcement of laws that should be enforced.

If we don't enforce laws regarding prostitution, who's to make police enforce laws regarding rape or pedophilia or even murder? Laws must be enforced or there's no point in having them, dipshit.

If there's a problem after the police vigorously enforce every law, then the laws need to be changed, not the level of enforcement. Are you 12?

The problem with having a completely convoluted legal code with 1300 pages of regulations per category is that the laws are bad, not that they might actually be enforced under some circumstances.

>visit romania one year
>hookers everywhere
>visit thailand
>50 hookers per square inch
>visit prague
>end up using tinder to snag someone who can show me around
>visit mexico city
>use tinder again
>nice mexican girls who want to get bleached
>visit Russia
>tinder
Just use tinder lads, its quicker and you'll get a local who knows the best spots to visit and eat