Why arent young Americans getting married

>In 1980, two-thirds of 25- to 34-year-olds were already married. In 2015, just two in five millennials were married, and only 7 percent had been divorced.

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Feminism.

Most men want to marry young, women want to enjoy their 20s single, by the time they reach 30 a lot of men have woken up to the game and see the deal for the shitty one it is for them.

Also, divorce rape, child custody, etc.

The poverty/Home ownership argument doesn't make sense considering whites had better birth rates even during times of absolute African tier poverty during the industrial/Agrarian age. Not to mention, Americans despite being poorer than their parents generation are still in the top 5 percent globally when it comes to wealth and prosperity , yet have lower marriage and birth rates than most impoverished countries

Good point, cunt.

Embrace your future!

Because the boomers set such a good example for us

Feminism
100% of women fuck the top 20% of men and then look for someone who has money.
Love never really existed but no one is even trying anymore.

Where did the 20 percent meme come from, lad?

Pareto

20% to 80% ratios are just the most common. Kind of like how 7 is the most common number.

It might be different, but definitely less than half of men have significantly more than half of the sex.

>Kind of like how 7 is the most common number.

Huh?

>what is modern birth control

Also, the divorce rate of previous generations has ruined the institution of marriage

OLD cunt here

You think women today are miserable fucking cunts at 22? You should eee them at 32. Or even worse 42!
Any user who has had a mother go through hormonal crazy shit knows what I mean.
Women who are shit at 22 just get shittier and shittier and even shittier. And of course feminists know this and try and bully impressionable young guys who are genuinely nice, where old men like myself don't give a fuck and wave our hand dismissively and grunt at them. Any man with a lick of sense would never get involved with a woman who's negative point will get worse over time.

Look it up. It's a fact that a random series of numbers is more likely to end in 7 than any other number.
If you roll 1 - 9 eighty billion times 7 will show up more than any other number.
It's kind of like the wapf mystery, no one really knows why it happens but it has significant implications

nope hope for the future. why raise a family.

Sorry for not being specific. But I've seen that around a lot on pol. Has there been a study confirming the 20 percent of women thing. Just so I know if I have to fully accept the black pill or not.

No denying it, just hoping it's not provable for my sanity.

basically is sex requires more than a short tinder convo / in person pickup i am not going to bother

and also i will tell you to fuck off the second you start to annoy me

First they put women in the workforce.

Then they made everyone work longer hours.

Then they made everyone borrow money to get by.

Then they removed the unnecessary expense that is family.

Anyone who does not see what is taking place right here is blind.

It does not make sense to have a family anymore. Anyone who does puts an immense unnecessary burden on themselves and you will kill any soul you had left inside of you, on top of that you won't make enough to be able to provide for your family.

We are becoming a slave people. Not empowered, like the constitution intended us to be, but enslaved, under those Democrat shackles.

Hopefully we can reverse this trend. But the lack of representation of the people in Congress in favour of the status quo is a big driving factor.

We'll just continue to work until we die as a people and the elite can then transcend.

Source for this?

reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/57xfah/age_at_first_marriage_for_women_in_the_us_by/


Half of all women born in the 1990s are predicted to never marry. And it's very likely that a majority of women born in the 2000s will be lifelong spinsters. There's going to be alot depressed women out there. I guess It's a good time for my brother, who's a clinical psychologist to open up a psychology clinic.
I think the late 2020s will be an interesting time for gender relations considering that'll be when the majority of post third wave feminism women will hit the wall

There's definitely an image floating around of a tinder study that shows 100% of women responding to slightly less than 20% of men.
300 women and three hundred men
50 men were talked to
1/6 = 17% or 16.8% or something

just look at your post number, mate

youtu.be/fCn8zs912OE
Zipf* mystery not wapf mystery kek
Hold on I'll find something about the number 7 for your lazy ass

Well, that's horrendous.

what?
first you have to mutual match so that makes no sense, i think you are thinking of okcupid

Marriage is not good for men as it used to be. I mean, if I marry, I will only loose in several aspects.
(1) Sex: sex as single is better than ever. Many partners, as different people sex tends to be good. As married just one woman, sex turns boring, woman lose libido. It worsen if she gives birth to children.
(2): money: she will use her money and you money and complain why you don't make more. Personal experience here with a girlfriend I dumped. Thank god I didn't marry her.
(3) space: woman tend to see man activities as bad for the family, like playing games, go out to drink a beer with friends, play soccer, etc. They expect you to serve them. Moreover, you usually have to deal with shit like the roof, garbage, garage etc. So a big nope here.
(4) Divorce: they can divorce for any reason and get away with your money and family pretty easily. If you betray her, you get to pay alimony; if she betrays you, you get to pay alimony. If you have kids, then your problems got even worse. She can pretend some sex harassment, rape, violence and get away with it. Woman tend to get child custody in 90% of the cases and they can put them against you pretty easily. As a result you loose your monies and family.

So, it is not a surprise that young men don't wanna marry anymore. It simply doesn't worth. For people who still think like marrying. I just ask: what if you get to 50 yo like the four topics I mentioned?

This.

The worst thing about this is these women only have a single skill set and that is complaining. It'll be truly appalling yet hilarious

Marriage isn't seen as essential, most people I grew up with grew up in several homes. Relationships take work and between careers taking longer to cultivate and life expectancy growing i wouldnt worry too much about it.

na even on tinder alot of girls match and never talk after. Luckily im 6'3 so i smash mad pussy

thanks to social media, women now have ridiculous standards. even a fat ugly girl requires a 6'2" 230lbs 10% bf slayer

i have never not been responded to on a mutual match and my openers are inane shit like lets fuck

on ok cupid you can send a message without a mutual match

scientificamerican.com/article/most-popular-numbers-grapes-of-math/
Very low quality presentation of information but this is one of several sources showing 7 to be the most common number.
You can conduct the study yourself anywhere and over a large enough body of evidence find the same result.
It's always 7

People don't like to hear this, but slut culture has absolutely decimated family values and those oldschool ideas of men and women being decent, well behaved, moral people.

Today people don't want to live hard times just to had one children on hard times people had ability to grow cities or towns, today mega cities are destroy towns and cities and mega cities had insane high price to micro houses.

>marrying a modern woman

KEK

I'm sure there are good ones out there, but the probability of finding one instead of some vindictive empowered womyn who will cheat on you then take your kids and half your income is low.

It would probably be even lower on okcupid because anyone can talk to anyone. I used okcupid and go responses from probably less than 3% of people I contacted.
On tinder about 20% of people I matched with ever talked to me and at least 90% of them stopped talking to me within 20 minutes.
I've given up on online dating needless to say.

This.

yeh thats why i just swipe right everyone not fat
even if 1 out of 100 only is open to sex thats still 3-4 new sex partner s a week

I wonder what happens when you start a generation off by making its Women into a bunch of fucking degenerates.

Huh.

Really makes you think.

Is there any data for other countries? I see data for the US presented all the time. What about the rest of the world?

Because it's a terrible deal.

My dad has had two divorces and is probably about to get a third. Every time he has lost his ass and has to work his way up back to where he was. Dad never learned his lesson, but I sure as fuck did. I am not giving a single dime to some miserable harpy that hates me.

How do we fix Western "men"?

You can't fix someone who doesn't want to be. Why give up doing what you like just so some bitch can fuck you over and take half of your shit.

this
pacotraver.wordpress.com/2013/05/13/las-consecuencias-de-la-revolucion-sexual/

Found the ugly autistic permavirgin

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That's a marvellous answer. Men don't need fix, they just want to be left alone.

That meme is bullshit.

Nice meme. The problem is that modern ""men"" are not marriage material anymore. Fat manchildren wasting their time with videogames and masturbating to anime child porn. Gross

That sure beats busting your ass to make enough money for some cunt to go out and spend it for you.

too bad men aren't the ones gonna be hanging themselves in their 40s because of their dried up ovaries and 5 cats

But why give up what we like, such as videogame, porn, hangout with friends in a bar, because a woman wants that? Sorry, but if leaving all of that is what women want for a men to marry, they should stay single

No one here is staying g that there hasn't been a decline in both sexes. However kee in mind that it's men who decide the marriage rate, not women. So a decline in the marriage rate is directly proportional to men's unwillingness to marry.

t.manchild

You will be hanging yourself before you turn 30 since you are an ugly pathetic loser who has never felt the touch of a woman kek

Because getting married at such a young age is retarded.

>longer education
>harder finding a job
>housing prices
>men
>women
>jews

Found the virgin. Come back when you have gone through puberty

They're marrying later.

young men don't have job or unemployed or don't have secure jobs. Also feminism has made most western women absolute shit only good enough to use as a cum rag.

>women want
who cares lol

Ultra-competitiveness changed the requirements for financial stability.
>1940
Get a high school degree and you're set. You work the first day out. Marry 1-3 years later when financially stable
>1980
Get a 3 year bachelor's degree and you're set. You begin work, get married 3-5 years later when you're stable.
>2020
Get a 5 year bachelor co-op degree, a 2 year masters degree, may get an MBA or another degree. Start working, wait 5-7 years until financial stability. Oh shit I'm 32 and unmarried.

When that day comes, we will have our revenge.

The confusion and anger as they realize they will be alone forever. That evolution will prove them wrong without a doubt as they fail to reproduce and their cancerous ideas die with them.

It will be so satisfying.
I don't care if the world burns anymore as long as they burn with it.

Lucky for them they'll never amount to the dizzying financial heights to become a target.

Why do you hate men you'll never have anything to do with being happy? What possible effect does it have on your life whatsoever?

anybody who wants to get laid

>When that day comes, we will have our revenge.
I know it is going to be so fucking good.

In Russia, $ 50 is enough.

There's no need for it. The social pressures to keep marriages together were discarded with the boomers who run rampant with their divorces. Then Gen X and older millennials decided to vote for gays to get "married", so there's no cultural significance to being married anymore.

There's hardly any benefit to it and I'm not paying some jew $160 for a marriage license when all you need is one or two notarized forms for medical and death shit.

The only real need for it anymore is when women hit the wall and then all of a sudden decide they want a "good guy" to settle down with. Women feel entitled to get whatever they want, because men always give them what they want. I find it quite hilarious that so many women are whining at the low marriage rates, but they should make their behavior more appealing to men if they want to find a guy.

>educated people wanting better life conditions that 4 generations ago doesn't make sense

Women crave attention from betas and cucks (obviously just attention and/or money without anything else) as much as they want alpha's dick. It's very important for them to feel desired, even if a woman is married to the chaddest chad but don't get enough attention from the side they get depressed
So, of course, they are mad that betas stick to 2D instead of worshiping 3DPD and evaluating their self-esteem

>give women more rights than men
>destroy role models
>destroy traditional family
>OH NO I DONT KNOW WHY MOST MEN DO NOT WANT COMMITMENT AND MOST WOMEN ARE WHORES

That's a fundamental issue with western society. Young women have it way too easy and young men have it way too hard. So young men feel no incentive to adhere to their traditional gender roles and give women everything just because others expect that of them.

MEN won't fall for the act anymore.
And why should they?
The truth is marriage should work as a release from suffering for both genders in their own respective ways.
Modern women are spoilt beyond recognition and modern men are wheatgrass drinking numale barista fags who've never worked a physical job in their lives.

It all goes back to these points

I completely agree.

Why would I get married to some vapid whore who is just gonna cheat on me and rob me of my stuff after she decides she needs more excitement in her life.
Women are 100% the cause for this stat and they will never see nor admit it.
A shitty justice system that always sides with women as the victim is to blame for that falling stat

In marriage there's only one loser and it's the man

>Democrat shackles
I know we like to blame liberals for everything here, but this issue has spanned decades. Republican and Democrat control has split these years pretty evenly.

Western civilization has spit on everything that revolved around marriage. Now, the only thing men have to look forward to when they marry is marrying a used up slut. Feminism took everything away from the old allure of marriage. The people that deny this truth are the same people trying to shame men back into marriage. Men have no incentive to play by the rules if women won't do the same.

Democrats are about destroying the family unit and undermining social value

Pretty much, if you didn't have a childhood sweetheart who loves you pretty much unconditionally you're shit out of luck. the women who aren't married by the end of high school are all self centered sluts who sleep around and spread their legs for the next drink.

Neofeudalism.

CHILD SUPPORT

>women want real men

Yes but why would real men want you? The reason she wants "real men" is because all the real men so far fucked her bunch of times and then moved on.

Marriage = Lose-Lose Situation

And yet when Republicans control the government, they fail to reverse or even slow down these trends. There's larger social and economic powers at work than one political party being shit.

> Young women have it way too easy and young men have it way too hard

Hit back is coming, in monogamy relations are 1:1 meaning if men don't had women,women don't had men, today women orbiter around few men in 10 years women wouldn't find partner because best men would settle young or best women, today every women believe be the best, articles pro polygamy, open marry, marry single mothers,marry old women or hating single men would be fucking storms.

True. Why the fuck would I marry a girl my own age if I'm 35. The younger women are attracted to older men and I'm attracted to younger women.

pussy isnt worth money tho

so sad but so true.

Don't forget that of course there are women who aren't sluts but they are fucking next to impossible to get because their standards are higher than you could ever imagine.

>Women want real men
Yeah and I want a spats wearing tomboy

Except 50% of property

But user-san, I thought you liked me.

It's such a simple explanation. Yet everytime there's a 5000 word Op Ed piece on the New York Times or Bloomberg about the death marriage or why Milenials aren't getting married, most seem to skirt around the issue and blame it on forces like muh economics that could easily be refuted with the fact that poor conservative communities have some of the highest marriage rates and family stability. No one wants to touch the F word.

Answer is super simple. Even though the modern media is pushing for polygamy, open relationships, sexual liberation and all that, the simple fact is that men, genetically, are hardwired to not find those traits attractive.

This kind of stuff is backed up by statistics, like rate of divorce by pre-marital sexual partners.

I'm ironically enough in favor for freedom of choice when it comes to sex, go polygamous if you want to, sleep around if you want to, but don't expect me to marry you when you're done, and don't act surprised when you find out most other men agree with me, even if they can't quite articulate or explain why. It's hard wired into us.

Give people freedom to act as they want legally and politically, but reign that in through culture and tradition. It shouldn't be illegal to sleep around (Like in most Islamic states), but it should be frowned upon. At the moment the west instead glorifies it.

t. swede

It's not a meme. We know this from genetic lineage prior to monogamy. Take away monogamy and this is what women do.
How do we know this? Well tinder strangely enough proves it.
medium.com/@worstonlinedater/tinder-experiments-ii-guys-unless-you-are-really-hot-you-are-probably-better-off-not-wasting-your-2ddf370a6e9a

The problem with women's push for polygamy or serial monogamy with only the top men is that even Chad's have realised marriage is a shit deal. Divorce laws mean that if a man wanted to marry more than a 2 women in his life, he'd be constantly broke. Unless women start pushing for repeals of divorce laws that would lessen the risk of high status men marrying other women, then I don't think even the top men would want to partake in marriage 2.0. And if there women want to skip marriage part because of this, then they'd just be opening their future to even more financial instability. It's a lose lose situation for these women

Based Swede

All we can hope for is a strong, strong counter-culture among the males and youth of our time. One that absolutely degrades and shuns promiscuous women- it must happen if we are to see a return to western values. I am beginning to see it among some males here in Australia, those part of Generation Z especially.

I see no evidence that young western males hate women being promiscuous. All I see are little dudebros who think that a "real man" can co-exist alongside modern feminism. They think it's wrong to shame women for being sluts, and a lot of Gen Z kids take part in what us millennials brought to prominence, which are taking sexual selfies and filming ourselves having sex at unprecedented levels.

Those types of women are always huge sluts anyway, and very entitled. Many such cases!

The problem with women's push for polygamy or serial monogamy with only the top men is that even Chad's have realised marriage is a shit deal. Divorce laws mean that if a man wanted to marry more than a 2 women in his life, he'd be constantly broke. Unless women start pushing for repeals of divorce laws that would lessen the risk and financial burden of high status men marrying other women, then I don't think even the top men would want to partake in marriage 2.0. And if women want to skip marriage part and go full soft Harem, then they'd just be exposing their future to even more risk and financial instability as eventually, they'll have children. I could only see this working with ultra rich men who can afford the polygamous lifestyle. It's a lose lose situation for these women and for society.

Birth rates do not go up when things are better, they go down.
Additionally, if women can earn on average 108% of a male's salary, and over 53% of all college degrees are now in the hands of women, the economic push to marry is less powerful.
It's the economics of plenty, you are using a model of economic scarcity.