Anyone right-wing but anti-fascist? Why do they always get conflated? I'm right-wing but libertarian, so I fucking hate authoritarians. I don't always see eye to eye with conservatives, but fascism are garbage.
How can you live in America, enjoy all our freedoms and opportunity, and be a fascist? Defies all reason.
so ur right wing but left, but fascism is a far right thing and u post a pic of a nazi which is a far left thing. so what are you actually?
Nicholas Nelson
I'm with you, brother.
Asher Sanchez
You can't be a fascist if you have no governmental power.
Owen Kelly
The nazis were left wing socialists The right wing has always been anti government
Jose Rodriguez
You're most likely fucking clueless. Fascism is a temporary tool to reduce the agents (eg immigrants) that in the long term will destabilize society and in the end raise demand for government, ie. authoritarianism. Fascists don't hate freedom, they just realize that it has a cost which needs to be payed.
Justin Edwards
Fascism is a revolutionary ideology so conservatives are naturally anti-fascist.
If you listen to the lyrics of the Horst Wessel, at least in the early days the forces of "reaction", ie conservatives, were considered at least as dangerous foe as the communists. Their belief wasn't misplaced, as by 1938 the revolutionary Fascist organisations like the Falange or SA would be marginalized at the behest of conservative elements.
Henry Cook
way to violate the NAP you fascist LARPing faggot.
We've assessed you. You're a known entity. and you are most defiantly a fascist. Get off our streets libertarian-facists.. It's Time to bash the fash. Get ready to get fukt. Punk.
Carson Mitchell
>anti-fascist >rick and morty
Jacob Carter
Which particular groups in the current political climate are you claiming to be fascists, and why?
Zachary Lewis
came here to post this
David Reyes
Hey, faggot
"Fascism" is a bullshit meme term that's been used by communists literally for 70+ years.
The Bolshevik movement and later the Soviet Union made frequent use of the "fascist" epithet coming from its conflict with the early German and Italian fascist movements. It was widely used in press and political language to describe either direct competition (such as the White movement) or even internal fractions of the socialist movement, for example social democracy which was called social fascism. Also the Nazi movement in Germany was described as "fascist" until 1939, when the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact was signed, after which Nazi–Soviet relations started to be presented positively in Soviet propaganda. In 1944 British writer George Orwell commented that due to the widespread use in the European press, "the word 'Fascism' is almost entirely meaningless" due to its non-specific use detached from its original political associations.[1] After 1941 "fascist" was used in the Soviet Union to describe virtually any anti-Soviet activity or opinion. According to Marxism–Leninism, fascism was the "final phase of crisis of bourgeoisie", which "in fascism sought refuge" from "inherent contradictions of capitalism". As result of this approach, it was almost every Western capitalist country that was "fascist", with the Third Reich being just the "most reactionary" one.[2][3] As result, after 1941 "fascist" was used in Soviet Union to describe virtually any anti-Soviet activity: for example, the international investigation on Katyn massacre was described as "fascist libel".,[4] the Warsaw Uprising as "illegal and organised by fascists".[5] Communist Służba Bezpieczeństwa described trotskyism, titoism and imperialism as "variants of fascism".[6]
Pic is literally what they called the Berlin wall.
Our "freedoms" have caused demographic replacement, obesity, environmental destruction, economic collapse, usury, and feminism. Everyone in the west has become isolated and depressed because of your "freedom".
The third reich had more freedom than we ever will.
Nathan Young
Yeah, what's even harder is being a libertarian nationalist. People think you're a fascist just because you're nationalist
Nathaniel Hughes
I'm right-wing and I really dislike anybody who's trying to fuck me over with their authoritarianism. Commies, nazis etc.
Of course I also have the sense of relativity; not all groups are equal threat at the moment. It's not the neo nazis who are pushing censorship and hate speech laws. I'm more scared of terrorists than some cartoon nazi frog meme group, no matter what the maynstreem meteor is trying to tell me. Also, historically it has been the commies who have been trying to beat Finland into submission, not the nazis, so there's also that. I also acknowledge the benefits of ethnic nationalism and I agree on many aspects of that, but I don't think it's very realistic.
I don't really know what to call this political alignment. Semi-white nationalism anti-authoritarianism? Is that even a thing? Or is that what alt-right is?
Matthew Edwards
You're using a linear political model, which doesn't actually work at all. The generally accepted basic political model uses two axes, economically left and right and authoritarian vs libertarian. It measures political ideology by government involvement in social and economic issues. That would make OP a libertarian, economically right and libertarian. Liberals are economically left and libertarian.
Colton Mitchell
A retard
Chase Sanchez
>left wing socialists
you are retarded
Nolan Bennett
libertarians are literally using facist anti-war protesters as shock troops right now, we will soon abandon theses sad shells. those who can not live free do not deserve to command those that do.
Tyler Hall
Antifa are also anti-commie but they get conflated with the extreme left non-stop on this board
Sup Forums is retarded
Justin Butler
I don't want my government to tolerate degeneracy.
Gabriel Bennett
> Really makes you think...
Isaiah Torres
Ancap here Usually always throw my vote away on Libertarians but this year voted for Trump for commie reason: >worker protection
LMAO at all these so-called 'politically aware' anti-fa's who are fighting against the one 'politician' who gave a single fuck about the working class
But desu, the more Trump does the opposite of his campaign promises, the more disillusioned I become with politics and this country in general. But I sure as shit would never fight Trump supporters in the streets
no you're retarded. when you commandeer corporations to do the bidding of the government, you are engaging in socialism
Dominic Gutierrez
>Antifa are also anti-commie >anarcho-communists >anti-commie
Colton Thompson
a libertarian who's a bit racist?
Joshua Cooper
everything can be reduced into two sides. That is how retarded it has become.
Divide and conquer is working.
Julian Robinson
They fly the iron front flag, which is explicitly anti-communism, but it's unsurprising they send mixed messages
Isaiah Nelson
except if you're in antifa they want both open borders and worker protections pick one niggers
Jace Phillips
>Implying they have any real awareness of the symbology they've adopted Cute
Dylan Stewart
And on the same note they have no idea what ideas they actually espouse
Joseph Morgan
The entirety of the right wing have become allies. You're a traitor if you believe this. I'm also a libertarian but the facist are our allies. I'll stand with them till the very end. If you don't like it blame the left, they caused all this.
Brayden Sullivan
well yeah but I don't want to be associated with Antifa scum, who are actual fascists
Cooper Lopez
>murrica >freedom and opportunity
Jaxon Ross
>right-wing but anti-fascist wtf
Nicholas Murphy
are you retarded?
Kayden Bennett
I'm pretty sure all the fascism stuff is a psyop to make people instantly disregard the views people have on sites like this as neonazi. And of course people have jumped on the bandwagon, kids that want to fit in and edgelords and so on.
The left and the right aren't so bad as long as we're agreed that it's authoritarianism that's the real enemy. I can really respect Ron Paul despite not being nearly as right wing as him just because he's genuine and is for freedom.
Asher Gutierrez
>Position in the political spectrum >The majority of scholars identify Nazism in practice as a form of far-right politics.
????
you muricans have no clue what left or rightwing actual means with your shitty 2 party system with no real choice.
>Right-wing politics hold that certain social orders and hierarchies are inevitable, natural, normal, or desirable, typically defending this position on the basis of natural law, economics or tradition. Hierarchy and inequality may be viewed as natural results of traditional social differences >wikipedia
Josiah Mitchell
Fascism doesn't exist on the 2D political compass. Fascism exists on the 3D compass, where the third axis is the measure of how nationalistic someone is. Fascism is nationalism and authoritarianism. It can be left or right, which involves economics.
Isaac Howard
This thread is teaching me that the entire history of politics in the world might be be best summed up by left or right...
James Baker
I am too
Caleb King
Then realize those people vote against your interest(libertarianism). Then realize attempts at using logic to persuade cultural groups do little. Then you realize its on purpose, and you are being played. Then accidently stumble on some onto some Charles Murray data and some data on how diverse cultures in neighborhoods destroy civil culture
Aiden Gutierrez
It depends. I am a conservative nationalist and oppose neonazism but antifascism today means nothing because it's used by anarchists and other ruffians against populism.