Sup Forums communism general

Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

Ring ring Hope is calling, to say you BTFO yourself by the mere act of proposing your ludicrous ideology.

Irrational aggressors will die.

Do you have any more of those funny infographics? I recall one where the electrical output of the Soviet Union in the 30s was presented as some sort of achievement but, when you crunched the numbers, their entire squalid, mismanaged mudhole was producing less power than a single dam in the evil decadent USA, built over a decade earlier.

Communism is the ownership of the able by the inept. Its slavery in its most pernicious, vile form. Its an abomination against nature and reason.

It was also, apparently, never tried, in spite of being responsible for cutting short a hundred million lives in just one century, making it the most criminal ideology to ever exist.

Its also mostly espoused by middle-class, underemployed kids, welfare rats and parasitic feminists, while being despised wholesale by the actual working, productive class, ie. White men.

Really, the fact that communism is still even a thing is reason enough to just pull the plug on humanity and start over with Turks. I mean cockroaches. Whatever, as long as all the commies die, it won't be too bad.

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>X is bad because people die!
take your morals somewhere else knuckle dragger

Hey guys, lets just throw in every single instance of governments acting shitty in a big, nice package, and slap the label of capitalism on it, that'll show em!

Basically, lets call everything bad to ever happen "capitalism", that'll surely make people take us seriously!

>Deaths from:
>Poor construction
>Invasions
>Famine
>Economic depression
>Industrial accidents
>Cigarettes

>All the fault of capitalism

I chose a photo of Chernobyl but Kyshtym is an even more horrifying example, there just aren't terribly compelling photos of it. In short, if dumping mid level radioactive waste straight into a river that flowed past over 100k people wasn't bad enough, an explosion spread high level waste over a similarly sized population. Thanks to the Soviet style of managing industrial accidents, these people weren't evacuated for decades and endured a level of radiation exposure not seen again until the Chenobyl liquidators. What reports made it out of there include atrocious accounts of pure terror as whole villages experienced their skin sloughing off and their animals straight up dying with no explanation.

As well as radiation, anthrax spores, bred to be resistant to all antibiotics were released into the town of Sverdlovsk and the population was just left to die. This is because a single cloth filter was used to separate the drying spores from the heavily populated area the factory was located in. On the day in question, a worker removed the filter for servicing but managers, under pressure from the politburo to sustain production, ran the plant anyway.

Using your same formula, if we blamed all wars on Communism, wouldn't that make Cummies the single most deadly thing on the planet?

Mongolian horde, chinese, russians, native americans were cummies surely :^)

All wars and natural disasters that weren't taken care of the way I wanted them to be taken care of were ALLLL communism's fault!

That's how retarded and biased you sound for blaming capitalism for literally everything. Of course you think it's worse than the mosquito, you're a bloodsucker yourself. Ah but isn't it strange how Capitalists actually work for their money while Communists simply demand and seize it through force? It's almost as if one of them is far more entitled. I wonder who!

>Spanish socialist
>socialism failed in Spain for past 8 years.
>Nud reál communism has been tried yet do.

Helicopter ride general?

I just punched my dog in the face, guess that must be capitalism's fault as well!

Let's not forget this
>Venezuela is 100% Trump's fault Ha-haha...
>It has nothing to do with Socialism failing, a corrupt government, poor economic budgeting etc
>Ignore the fact that we're so far in debt we are using memes as a currency and weigh our paper money on scales!
>That 500k is what broke the bank!

It's fine. He likes sleeping in a bed without getting raped. He was probably a nazi.

Even socialists and communists have realized by now that their economic system is garbage and doesn't work, so they shifted the focus from economics to culture and ideology. Many people on today's society, including some people from Sup Forums or other places who think of themselves as right wingers, are influenced and driven by commie mentality without even realizing it.

So get with the times Spain, if you want to shill for communism, you don't shill for communism directly, you use subversion and shill for other things, such as gender and race equality, transgender rights, cultural relativism, moral relativism, gun control and so on. Apply yourself and learn how to be a useful idiot.

>I don't want to work
>Communism: those with skill -> those with need
Sounds good to me

>socialism
>past 8 years

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Well there was some economic sabotage by Hillary in Venezuela, not to mention that the economy tanked due to oil priced dropping.
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>gif too big

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What will you do differently this time?

just did the math. that sum is incorrect. Unbelievable. Commies are too fucking stupid to even use a calculator properly.

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Well I don't know much about Venezuela, personally. I don't know if it'd be possible right now with the US being the world police and all that.

PUNCH COMMIES!