>Mayor Bill de Blasio want to raise the floor on the cost of a pack of cigarettes in New York City to $13, which would make it the highest in the country.
>The current floor price on a pack of cigarettes in the city is $10.50.
>De Blasio says the city already has a record-low percentage of smokers, 14 percent. But he wants to further cut the number of smokers in the city by 160,000 by 2020, he said Wednesday. An estimated 900,000 New York city residents currently smoke.
>"In a way of too many addictive challenges, how supremely addictive this chemical is and what it does to people -- we have to treat it aggressively," he said during the news conference at the American Heart Association's office in midtown.
>City and state taxes on a pack of cigarettes already total $5.85, making it the highest in the country.
Logan Ortiz
Smoking is bad for your health, prove me wrong
Aiden Clark
Time to smuggle and sell cigarettes in NY
Henry Ross
Don't need to.
Explain how this justifies raising the floor price.
Austin Ortiz
this already happens.
Angel Hernandez
Too late. Black market is already big business here. *snickers*
Nathan Campbell
smoke up, goyim
Logan Gonzalez
I make cartons of filtered cigs for about $9 Under $1 a pack Eventually this will prompt a black market in tobacco products
Isaiah Baker
Most cigarettes are bought and sold illegally in NYC IIRC anyway. Thing is this nigger lover will probably bitch about the Eric Garner case without realizing shit like this is exactly why Eric Garner was smuggling and died in the first place.
David Stewart
On a serious note. Now that more and more people are vaping and/or black market cigs and less and less are smoking the overly taxed cigarettes, he has to make up for the loss.
Juan Green
Wouldn't recommend it unless you're a nonthreatening little cuck
William Scott
That guy was an idiot. That's not how you do black market sales.
Mason Powell
This is hardly news. Lots of cities like to slap a tax on cigs and divert that money to healthcare as a PR stunt; then less people smoke, the money dries up and now they're on the hook to find money elsewhere.
It's the cycle of cronyism.
Owen Cooper
>This is hardly news. Lots of cities like to slap a tax on cigs and divert that money to healthcare as a PR stunt
I know that all too well. There was a report back in the early 2000's about cig tax money that was being diverted to building a ritzy golf club upstate. I was part of the anti-tax crusade but we lost badly. Oh well. War is hell.
Justin Kelly
good. drugs are degeneracy.
William Thompson
Good fuck those smoking degenerates
>pol will oppose this for some reason
David Garcia
This will drive the black marked up
Logan Gutierrez
>buy trunk full of smokes
>drive to NYC
>profit
Camden Clark
I remember when pol was libertarian-lite
How far they have fallen
Matthew Ramirez
Yeah lets ban every thing that is bad for us ! ban guns and cars too those can kill people.
Caleb Parker
ok, badass. you're a fucking idiot. he was selling loosies. cigs in nyc are expensive, you a lot of people and places sell illegal ones from virginia
Charles Fisher
Reminder that Big Bird DeBlasio got Eric Garner killed with his retarded cig laws.
Logan Nelson
Be careful. At the bridges the port authority have tobacco sniffing dogs.
Jaxson Scott
>This will drive the black marked up
Some of the black market yet, there is a black market for everything, but for the most part, no people will go in and buy cigs at the local department or whatever. Things like increasing the age to 21, taxing the shit out of them, IDs or everyone, does make it harder for people to smoke overall.
Zachary Lopez
Tax free native american smoke shops literally an hour outside of the city
Andrew Mitchell
hope you don't have Asthma bro
John Sullivan
Why does anyone pay the highest rent in the nation to live in a militarized police compound?
WHEN will the New York meme die.
Xavier Long
A proper black market is underground and you have to know people. Not selling loosies or packs out in the streets.
William Reed
BUT BUT MUH TAX OPPRESSION
Easton Scott
>>Mayor Bill de Blasio want to raise the floor on the cost of a pack of cigarettes in New York City to $13, which would make it the highest in the country.
Still cheaper than Australia.
Levi Bailey
I stay here to fight the good fight. Someone has to make the sacrifice.
Carter Murphy
I remember when I was able to order online from those reservations until the state called in the troops and stopped it and then went after the delivery carriers like ups and postal. None of these online retailers will sell and ship their product to NY since it is illegal to do so. I use to go to NJ where the cigs were still half the price.
Samuel Cox
Just get out man, fuck that shitty island. You know it's gonna be underwater in 50 years anyway.
Joshua Taylor
>Bill de Blasio reminder
Austin Rodriguez
No one on Sup Forums that is sincere will argue that you fucking mong
Kevin Turner
It's all good. I'm vaping now anyway and by the time this place is underwater I'll be long gone thank god.
Robert Stewart
poor working class people in new york and obviously enraged by this, because if you work a shitty job for well over 40 hours a week, when you get home for the day, obviously a cigarette sounds fucking great.
but at the same time, increasing the price/generally making them less accessible has been shown to decrease smoking, which is objectively bad for your health, so it's probably ultimately a good thing.
Austin Clark
Create more demand for loosies.
Bill DeBlasio is a job creator now.
Drive to Indian territory and skip taxes then head back to the city.
Camden Sanders
why does so many countries care about cigarettes so much but not things like weed or alcohol are they the secret to living forever?
Jaxson Kelly
Well that depends. It's not everybody. You would have to look at your family for cancer sensitivity. My great aunt was 95 when she passed and she died a normal age related death. She drank like a water drain and smoked like chimney. And there are many many many stories like that.
Charles Stewart
because cigarettes kills 50% of smokers and kill way more than all other drugs combined, alcohol included.
Bentley Cook
Nicotine doesn't impair you like weed or alcohol. They are both better highs but you can smoke when you're working.
Logan Smith
Cigarettes kill you faster and kill those around you.
Jaxon Rodriguez
>localised price increase
An excellent way to encourage the black market.
Nathaniel Mitchell
Sure it does. I bet when I die of a heart attack at age 75 they'll say it was directly related to being a smoker in my 20's.
Michael Myers
>but at the same time, increasing the price/generally making them less accessible has been shown to decrease smoking, which is objectively bad for your health, so it's probably ultimately a good thing. If they were serious about reversing addiction, they would make alternatives more readily accessible.
They don't really give a fuck about the health of smokers though, in fact I would imagine di Blasio and his ilk have nothing but scorn for smokers. He's probably hoping for a few more Eric Garners out of all this.
These price floors don't help anyone kick the habit, they just make it more expensive or more dangerous to keep the habit up.
Parker White
>directly related to being a smoker in my 20's
That's exactly what they do to pad up the statistics. Even if you died at 95 of natural causes and were a smoker.
Brody Ross
You sound like a moron. What about Mcdonalds or Coca Cola? If the state sees right to tax tobacco at that rate, they should tax ALL items detrimental to the citizenry and should not have lotteries, as that promotes gambling. The state is acting unreasonably in this case.
Christian Hall
one thing at a time dogg
Ryan Taylor
>Cigarettes kill you faster and kill those around you. And what do you think is going to happen to all the fatbodies we have in the US? Tobacco isn't going to kill 30% of the population, but beetus will. Should we tax soda and fast food at the same rate as tobacco?
Jose Ross
I lived in that hellhole up until 2012 and cigs were $15 a pack then unless you went to the nigger neighborhoods and bought the packs with VA tax stamps from the arabs.
Even in upstate NY theyre more than $10.50 a pack now.
Either way, smoking is degenerate and I'd tell you to kill yourselves but you already are.
Zachary Gray
I don't think so, dogg. The state has no right to pick and choose which evil will be acceptable. Either tax it all, or fuck off.
Xavier Ross
I wish burgers had a tax on fat people too.
Angel Williams
I don't see the need to overcharge a dying man.
Caleb Gonzalez
>$15 a pack
Those are downtown prices. Think they are up to $17 a pack now. Go to local neighborhoods and a pack of Newports will cost you legally $12.50.
Caleb Murphy
>The state has no right to pick and choose which evil will be acceptable What are you talking about. That is exactly their right, it's basically the whole point of a local government. To keep order.
An actual "just" code of laws would fit on an index card, but that's not the point of the game anymore.
David Wood
Why dont people vape..? >healthier >chepear
Gabriel Morales
Bill Deblasio can choke on my fat cock. Fuck that retarded coal burning piece of shit
Dominic Johnson
The first rule to black market sales is to not actually be black while doing them.
Jose Perez
>Bitch, please.
Go and look up what a pack of cigarettes in Australia costs.
Zachary Murphy
Who cares? Life is not a game about who lives the longest.
Brody Long
isn't raising the price of cigarettes racist because it's a tax on black people?
Asher Barnes
>vaping >not a faggot
pick one
Anthony Reed
Congratulations America you're almost there! A packet here costs fucking $32.
Angel Garcia
kek I'm a poorfag who lived in nyc all my life and I've been paying full price for cigs because I'm too lazy to go to Jersey/don't really care about money all that much
I don't give a fuck if packs were $20 a pop I'd still buy them
Carter Morales
Fuck off, user. The state is us, the people. They can't pick and choose what evil is acceptable based on what will be tolerated. Put the same tax on soda and fast food, see what happens. Tobacco is an easy mark because not enough people smoke that could vote whomever raises these taxes, out. I want fatbodies taxed so they can't afford to get fat, and I don't want my kids seeing walls of scratchoff tickets, every time they walk in a store. This is pure hypocrisy.
Lucas Morgan
A lot of us do. I can't tell you how many vape stores have opened up in the city. They are beginning to outnumber the optimo stores. Even the optimo stores are carrying vape products. I still get my stuff online though. That's the problem Deblasio faces. The cigarette tax income has dwindled and he needs to make up for the shortfall on the people that still smoke cigarettes. Though, the government has stepped up the attack on vapes because you know muh children crap.
Kayden Gutierrez
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Leo Butler
At some point you abbos are going to learn agriculture and just grow your own.
Daniel Cox
Hurts low income worse, just like gasoline taxes.
Ryan Moore
Your people literally burn books; we all know Australia is a shithole. I mean you're a fucking ex penal colony, what do you expect?
Kayden Bennett
smoking rates have already been plummeting among human citizens without these measures, they're just trying to use vice taxes as a revenue stream since their liberal politics can't fund themselves and this always ends badly
Logan Price
It's a tax on the poor.
Noah James
I did look into that as well. If only I had a backyard! Then I'd have to worry about the government raiding my property confiscating my tobacco crop and charging me for tax evasion.
Cooper Williams
>smoking rates have already been plummeting among human citizens those goddamn xenos though, they cannot get off the Terran coffin nail
Camden Harris
Whatever....I already get my cigs at Virginia prices. Fuck DeBlasio...he can suck my cunt...I didn't vote for his stupid ass!
Henry Adams
Fuck off. People have bad breath and is unconfortable to others.
Everytime people see mine or warn me, ask about the price or If its a pain to charge it. Like wtf
Ethan Perry
>Australia is a shithole
Can't really disagree mate. Sorry for your fail attempt at a insult ;)
Tyler Morris
not ordering a lb of natural grown pesticide and poison free handrolling tobacco wholesale online for 20$.
Nathaniel Walker
It's not an insult if it's objective fact stated flatly. Sorry user.
Nolan Thompson
Bloomberg is still worse so far. He's the reason they tax is so high in the first place.
Benjamin Brown
Smokers are fucking stupid. Buy a bag of pipe tobacco for $6. If you refuse to use a pipe then buy empty cigarette cartridges and shove the pipe tobacco in there.
Nathan Parker
$25 a pack or go home
Easton Turner
Look at this man. Look at how fucking cool he is. All the coolness is derived from that cigarette. Now, try telling me it's bad for you again.
Dylan Taylor
I used to be a total lolbertarian cuck on shit like this, but not anymore. Good. Tobacco products should be fucking banned. I don't give a fuck how cool Clint Eastwood or Arnold looked smoking cigars. That shit is bad for you in basically every way imaginable. In my line of work, I deal with far too many people with COPD, heart disease, stroke, cancer, and other diseases all linked with tobacco to think it should still be around. Fuck individual freedoms. Fuck ancapistan. Fuck "my body, my choice". You are someone's father or mother or uncle or brother or friend. You have an obligation to your family and your folk to be a healthy contributing member of society. Not some fucking leech on disability carrying around an O2 tank who has to go to the hospital every other week and waste untold thousands of dollars in healthcare costs on the system.
My beef is that the people who typically crusade against tobacco, the leftists, are also TOTALLY IN FAVOR of marijuana. Motherfucker, you're still inhaling burnt leaves into your throat. That shit is bad as well. It's totally hypocritical to fight against tobacco while lobbying for the legalization of DUDE WEED LMAO
Cooper Sanders
Having people willingly hurt their health, also hurts the health of the state
and the State is more important than the individual
prove me wrong(you can't)
Alexander Rodriguez
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Julian Myers
>I used to be a total lolbertarian Stopped reading right there
Chase King
good cause smokers are giants fags. They smoke and give 2nd hand smoke to everyone.
Justin Torres
That's a Kramer scheme if I've ever heard one
Mason Moore
california is gonna ban fruit flavored blunts niggers gonn be butthurt as fuck
Ryder Hill
That's the other aspect of this issue. "morality tax" is something I normally approve of, but with tobacco, that shit is addicted. And on the surface, their reasoning is that the higher price will dissuade people from using it. But that isn't what happens. All that happens is people still have to pay out the ass for it. End result? You didn't help at all, and you're lining your own pockets with tax money.
That's why they should just fucking be banned outright.
Liam Harris
He's a manlet 3 term mayor kike billionaire...of course he's worse.
Evan Bailey
If New York of all places banned cigarettes, they'd be the butt of so many more jokes and get lambasted globally which is something they really don't want any more of .
Jason Robinson
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Austin Russell
This. It would be helpful.
Eli Rogers
Still $30USD a pack.
Elijah Long
Sure you can try to ban but we humans find our ways around that. All too easy.
Samuel Torres
Pretty sure you can grow it for personal use.
Cooper Gomez
Homosexuals on average live 10 years less than smokers Let that sink in.