can any of the shit skins on Sup Forums who push for civic nationalism please explain how society would be any different than it is currently
What is the difference between civic nationalism and a neo conservatism?
Jordan Smith
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William Wilson
i thought neoconservatism was related to foreign policy issues and not much else
Lucas Cox
neo conservatism is just liberalism with a slight right leaning twist to appease mom and dad
neo liberalism is just liberalism with a slight left leaning twist to appease dad and dad
both parties are the same thing at their core.
civic nationalism is the same neo con cuckservative shit america has had since the 70s
civic fascism could work maybe, but civic nationalism is already here and its nothing. a mexican or nigger flying a flag above their house means nothing if they dont have a job
Ethan Russell
Those are European features that she has, not African.
This is what a real African looks like.
Kevin Barnes
Those who do not partake in civics, such as black people (largely) and Hispanics (largely) would be cut off from the fruits of the nation's labor until they start nationbuilding again.
Unfortunately, America will never nationbuild again. We got chinked into buying the rest of the planet's workers for labor and leaving our own people to work at McDonalds or get on food stamps. Our education system is in the shitter, and anyone who survives it abandons ship and gets a job overseas in places like China where innovation and academic success are actually worth something.
So civic nationalism works, it's just that there's no nation left to be a nationalist for.
Nolan Martin
No equality of outcome.
No race baiting.
No racial quotas.
Strict meriticracy.
Welfare system based on get-you-on-your-feet principle, not an endless gibs for life.
Strict adherence to Western values, no multiculturalism.
Religion is separated from State by law and any attempt to preach religion as a form of political ideology is banned.
Not a bad deal. Better than the current one.
Alexander Mitchell
>hose who do not partake in civics, such as black people (largely) and Hispanics (largely) would be cut off from the fruits of the nation's labor until they start nationbuilding again.
but that goes against the core values of nationalism which is freedom and individual rights
Justin Jenkins
I sure do love these negresses thinking they are hot when in reality they are only attractive as zoo animals
Chase Barnes
>nationalism is defined as freedom and individual rights
no it isn't
Hudson Phillips
apart from abolish diversity qouts and affirmative action. how do you plan to enforce any of those things without destroying freedom of speec, religion and association and individual rights both of which are core components of civic nationalism
Jordan Evans
>core values of nationalism which is freedom and individual rights
Aside from shill posts this is the dumbest thing I've read on Sup Forums in a long while.
Anthony Fisher
dang
Luke Cook
>Civic nationalism, also known as liberal nationalism, is a kind of nationalism identified by political philosophers who believe in a non-xenophobic form of nationalism compatible with values of freedom, tolerance, equality, and individual rights.
please explain to me how this is any different to what we have right now
Connor Martin
ok then define your position. what is civic nationalism to you?
how would the country change under civic nationalism?
Mason Fisher
Civic nationalism is just multiculturalism repackaged so bad goys will eat up the propaganda again.
Nathaniel Smith
skanky self-hating mulatto. her slave ancestors were raped by the plantation owners.
Josiah Jenkins
its not even repackaged though. its the exact system we have right now. a system in which everyone comes together under one banner as "australians" "americans" irrelevant of skin color
its just cuckservatism with the word nationalism added to appeal to shit skins who wanna role play as nazis too
Luis Lee
We're not nationalist.There's no national identity to speak of precisely because we are too diverse.
The only thing which unites America as a nation is the universal experience of materialist consumerism and pop culture / mass media.
In order to be a nationalist, you must have:
a Strong, Clear Identity
Self-determination (not being pushed around by other nations)
Patriotism (Loyalty to one's country before loyalty to any other outside interests on the globe.)
We do not have any of these 3.
All nationalism by necessity has to be ethno-nationalism because feeling like loyalty and identity usually do not transcend ethnic barriers. Blacks, Mexicans, Jews, none of them feel patriotic because they are either imports or have loyalty only to a special interest in their homeland and people (as is the case with the Jews, who don't care for any nation but Israel and only wish to be a borderless global interest without loyalty to anyone). They don't give a shit what happens to America.
Dominic Thomas
>We do not have any of these 3.
well you do have a considerable population of nationalists, thats why trump is in the white house. but you also have people who oppose nationalism most of which are shit skins. but thats democracy... america is a democratic country and always has been
how would civic nationalism be any different to what we have now. you'd have to remove freedom of speech and freedom of association and literally force 40% of the population into patriotism but that in of itself would be completely anti american and anti nationalist as freedom of speech and individual rights is core component of the american identity and always has been
Cooper Garcia
no idea OP but i always say shit of skin full of sin. Keep telling yourself that sweetheart but you can never wash that dirt of.
Lucas Rodriguez
No true Scotsman
David Adams
>civic nationalism
The idea that a multiracial state can be maintained through the spread of a strong mono-culture. Think Rome at its height.
>neoconservatism
A moderate centrist position which advocates protectionist economic measures and hawkish foreign policy.
Nolan Scott
>protectionist economic measures
Lol no. The exact opposite.
> A moderate centrist position
Not really.
>hawkish foreign policy.
Is not moderate.
Juan Gomez
guess that makes Trump a neocon cuck
Kayden Mitchell
Deal with it
Isaiah Campbell
>Lol no. The exact opposite.
That would be neoliberalism
>Not really.
Okay, centre-right
>hawkish foreign policy is not moderate.
How so, it doesn't mean conquering other nations, simply backing your interests with military force. Like the invasion of Iraq for example.
Dominic Price
Increases in diversity correlate with problems worldwide, and the downsides of diversity effect everyone, it's a universal human problem:
theaustralian.com.au
Diversity experiments in Germany end in disaster
ttp://www.spiegel.de/international/germany-s-immigrants-integration-in-theory-alienation-in-practice-a-433006.html
Immigrants in Norway are a net loss to the economy
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Immigrants in Sweden are a net loss to the economy
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Denmark saved billions by restricting immigration:
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More diversity in police departments correlates with more abuse, poorer performance and less trust:
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Increased diversity correlates sharply with decreased community spirit, decreased altruism, and depressed social capital, less ethical behavior, more crime, fear, isolation and depression:
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Harvard study proving diversity doesn't work and is disastrous
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Also, a nice little study from Cornell University about how segregation creates peace:
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Alexander Ortiz
Multiculturalism doesn't work:
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Swedish politician speaks on camera about immigration issues and expresses different views when secretly filmed.
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Paul Weston, chairman of Britain's counter-Jihad party 'Liberty GB' speaks about the Woolwich murder, Islam and the state of Britain today.
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Norway: 90% of all rapes committed in Oslo by non-western immigrants.
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France: The muslim population of France is 12%, yet they make up 60 to 70% of all inmates in France's prisons.
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Charles Parker
>Multiculturalism doesn't work
Civic nationalism is the opposite of multiculturalism.
Logan Reed
Ethno-nationalism is the opposite of multiculturalism
Now fuck off back to T_D with your kosher nationalism
Cameron Richardson
Yes, ethno-nationalism as well. However, as I said in civic nationalism supports the idea of monoculturalism. The term you're looking for is multiracialism.
Landon Green
So basically whites are segregated from the non-whites, where the non-whites have their own minor republics that gets taxed from the empire?
Ethan Williams
>she
Matthew Cruz
You could go the way of segregation, though in post-colonial nations like the USA and Australia I see a system of ideologically enforced monoculturalism as the way forwards. Europe however should pursue ethno-nationalist policies as European nations have their origins in specific ethnic groups.
Thomas Brown
Monoculturalism is still diversity, there is no way around it.
>USA and Australia I see a system of ideologically enforced monoculturalism as the way forwards
No, we're just going to exterminate all the non-whites. The end justifies the means.
Juan Allen
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Joseph Flores
>we're just going to exterminate all the non-whites
I'm thinking in terms of realpolitik user, and you should too. When are you going to exterminate them? How are you going to recover from waging war on a such a sizeable portion of your population?
To me it seems smarter to promote national and racial pride among all your people so as to keep the country united, and the minorities a minority.
Elijah Parker
Best case is to balkanize US, and create ethno sates.
Alexander Mitchell
Perhaps, it isn't really my place to tell you what to do with your nation, just don't go down the path of senseless violence because it will be more trouble than it's worth.
Asher Brown
>I'm thinking in terms of realpolitik user
So am I
>When are you going to exterminate them?
When the time comes
>How are you going to recover from waging war on a such a sizeable portion of your population?
Whites are still in the majority, still numbers mean hardly anything in warfare.
>To me it seems smarter to promote national and racial pride among all your people so as to keep the country united, and the minorities a minority.
See
Angel Stewart
True, that's why I don't really mind identity politics. To hopefully push everyone to want their own space.
Gabriel Reed
i can't even get on topic. i'm completely overwhelmed by the magnitude of pic-related's stupidity. it's awe inspiring, tbqh senpai. i think i'm done for the day. there's only so much numinosity my human intellect can absorb at one time.
Andrew Anderson
>When the time comes
This means absolutely nothing, do you actually believe that you can convince the man in the street to commit genocide in the spur of the moment? It's not achievable here in Europe, let alone a post-colonial nation of immigrants like Australia.
Xavier Ramirez
This looks shopped
Thomas Campbell
what is this civic nationalism?I believe was a post-Trump victory meme but i keep seeing it...care to explain?
James Rodriguez
I'm only fucking around. Deportation of all criminals and non-whites under 60 years of age, the rest can stay and live out their lives.
Genocide is only an option if a race war breaks out and the former option can't not be implemented without violent resistance.
Angel Anderson
>Deportation of all criminals
Makes sense
>and non-whites under 60 years of age
A bit risky to be honest, it could definitely be seen as an open invitation to intervention by world policing moral crusaders. A safer and more beneficial way could perhaps be to segregate certain classes in schools in order to instill a sense of pride in the non-whites' countries of origin to encourage them to leave of their own free will.
Daniel Sullivan
when it's said here about civic nationalism i think correct term would be en.wikipedia.org
Ian Perez
holy shit do I ever hope 50 million niggers pile into your country
James Adams
They can take their valuables with them, its not like they're going empty handed. Also, other nations would be glad to take them in since it means more tax revenue. They're not worth wasting any more money on
Josiah Diaz
>if a race war breaks out
If that actually happened things would go back to how they were before the european invasion, mostly but yeah
An all out offensive against the entire continent of america at this time won't work. That time is over with, when they came and introduced their dirty asses the first time around was the key (the shock of the black death in combination with a ground invasion). Now everyone is immune, the only thing that will come close to that are nukes
And nobodies going to nuke themselves