How do I explain to liberals that lowering taxes for the rich and corporations is a good thing?

How do I explain to liberals that lowering taxes for the rich and corporations is a good thing?

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It's not a good thing innately. It's about finding a good balance point of getting as much money as you can from corporations without scaring them away. The problem is that no one knows where that good balance point is.

Don't use words, use free helicopter rides.

Tell them that the wealthy drive our entire economy, and that without those key individuals society as we know it would collapse into degeneracy. These people are our friends, and they deserve our respect, admiration, and money.

just explain that right wing retards are cucks for the billionaire globalist elites and always fall for trickle down

you dont, you bury them alive.

>Right wing retards think billionaires don't have enough money

You can't make this shit up. Wow u motherfuckers are cucked beyond repair.

"It is striking to note that the best growth years for the bottom 99 percent since 1990 have taken place in the mid to late 1990s and since 2013, shortly after increases in top tax rates," Saez wrote.

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Honestly?
Just use memes man.
Too many words confuse them.
Complicated math confuses them too.
Just make an easy to digest memes that shows how it works.

They were already being taxed a lot, reducing some taxation promotes investment, which energizes an economy and leads to more jobs and thus a better market for the average guy, so they will have a better life.

If you can somehow translate that into less than 10 words and a funny image you are good to go.

By reminding them that the working class's wages come from those guys and if they didn't have to pay as much in fees and taxes as they did in wages per employee then they could afford to pay them more.

the rich simulate the economy, they have the most money so they stipulate the economy bigly. its just math.

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good goy

other liberal countries have lower corporate rates

like canada for example

Nonsense, you are the one who is cuked, shill. The rich are the innovators of the world, the ones who drive all technological development. We wouldn't even have education if it weren't for people like Trump.

This desu. Lowering the corporate tax would probably help the economy, but then we would lose so much revenue. We already have a huge federal deficit and 20 trillion dollar debt. I don't know what the solution is.

holy shit the right wing retard billionaire globalist shillcucks in this thread are unbelievable.

I can't imagine the cuckery it must take to be a right wing retard. To actually believe that billionaires don't have enough money.

HAHAHAHA FUCKINGGGGGGGGG EPICCCCCCCCC XDDDDDDDDDDD1!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

we are like greece

half our wealth is an illusion

and like greece we will eventually have huge problems

Corporations make $6.5 TRILLION in profits per year. Only right wing retard billionaire globalist shillcucks like you think they don't have enough money.

Tell them they're literally Hitler for their socialist ideals and that lower taxes and corporate rule are common in the islamic world

Trickle up economics make much more sense in practice.

Give a rich man more money. What does he do with it? Invests it. It earns him, and whatever he's investing in more money. Great, two rich people get richer.

Give a low-income person that same money. What do they do? They go to their local auto shop and get the car repairs that they needed. They go to the electronic store and purchase a new TV. They get the dental care they needed.

The lower-income people have things that they are going to spend money on once they acquire it. This money funnels back into the economy, driving activity and growth.

Well for starters, how do you explain it to yourself?

Democrat tax hikes always accompany a plethora of extra subsidies and special tax exemptions so that only certain rich people end up having to pay those taxes. And for the most part, the companies we rely on for our necessities just pass the extra costs along to us anyways.

>the solution is more tax cuts for the rich
>we don't have enough money yet
>just a little more, then it will finally trickle down
>we promise, right wing retards

Maybe this guy is right

cucking your country for the international elite is not conservative

Exactly this.

youtube.com/watch?v=8wAa9DqHZtM

Seattle having a $15/hour min wage and 2.9% unemployment is the worst nightmare for the billionaire globalist shillcucks of (((pol))))

There's nothing that triggers right wing retards more than hard working Americans earning a decent wage.

You have to close loopholes and offshore tax havens before you can find what that balance point is.

>he still believes in trickle-down economics

Why aren't countries with less billionaires great?

Don't respond to Obama leaf.

He's the most recognizable poster here and yet he somehow still gets away with (you)s

just like their dear leader, right wing retard love getting pissed on

>thus a better market for the average guy, so they will have a better life.

This hasn't been the case in America, the extra growth only goes to the very wealthy.

it's not. it doesnt create jobs, it creates unproductive speculation and increasing poverty.

the myth is that the rich are job creators, and taxes is preventing them from creating more jobs. this is pure bullshit. it is the demand from the middle and lower classes that creates jobs. the rich are just as lazy and stupid as most people and if you lower their taxes they arent going to work harder, creating jobs is hard work, they are going to give the surplus to their brokers who will fuel boom bust speculation bubbles on wall street. economists all agree. but this conservative fairy tale will never die, because the rich own the media that propagates it.

so you think canada should raise their corporate tax rate?

Why are right wing retards such cucks for the billionaires?

As someone who's spent a lot of time around rich people, you give them way to much credit. alot of them are just normal people who made a big break

ignore obama leaf, canada's reputation is bad enough already

>falling for the "corporations are rich people" meme

Every pension plan and 401k would benefit from a decrease in corporate tax. But we would still lose a lot of revenue.

who cares. taxing in general is immoral.

the only people who couldn't live with tax cuts are welfare pigs.

the recession was a good step in the right direction.

everyone who held onto their land/stocks or bought businesses during that time are mega rich right now.

if you can't convince them then say it's for your own self interest one day you're going to be a billionaire tell them that.

Rich people are actually good people I have this billionaire boss and you could not tell him apart from your average joe

>Gospelofwealth.jpg
user, I would like to be the first to tell you that the Victorian era is over.

>How do I explain to liberals that lowering taxes for the rich and corporations is a good thing?


If you figure it out, let me know. I'll use the technique to explain to conservatives that the largest military in the world is also the most expensive one.

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This.

But I don't agree with almost everything that liberal parties promote on other policy fronts.

This is why we need NatSoc or European-style right wing parties.

Yes actually. Our 15% federal corporate tax rate is too low. Harper cut it and it did fuck all for our economy. I'm not saying at 35% you should raise your corporate tax rate but you sure as fuck shouldn't cut it. You retards need the revenues.

Corporations are making $6.5 TRILLION in profits per year. They only pay corporate income tax ON PROFITS. How much of a cucked right wing retard billionaire globalist shillcuck do you have to be to think they need tax cuts? Last I checked, Obama left you retards a 4.6% unemployment rate.

You right wing retards just love exploding the deficit to give your billionaire globalist overlords more money.

stop embarrassing us further

having a corporate tax rate at all in the first place is fucking stupid and gay anyway. the economy will grow faster if corporations make maximum profits. if the government isnt receiving enough tax money then they can just print more anyway. its so simple tbqh like i dont even see why there's a debate here

>Mark Zuckerberg makes a social networking site that everyone loves
>becomes a billionaire overnight
>Communists: He exploited workers to earn that money! Value is only produced by labor. Tax him into oblivion and give the money to me!
>Sup Forums: sneaky Jew! Stole that money from the white man!

I can't deal with either of you desu.

First, trickle down economics is not about giving rich people money, it's about letting everyone keep more of what they already earn.

Second, there is more to investing than 2 rich people getting richer. The invested money opens up opportunities to create jobs and produce things that make life so much better that we all take for granted.

While our entrepreneurs are working on more convenient coffee makers, countries that lack investment and opportunity are still trying to figure out how to filter water.

Here is an easy solution, lower government spending? Not everything needs government funding.

That is the most retarded thing i ever heard

so what number should canada raise their rate to?

That's not trickle down economics. My boss pays over 100 dollars an hour to have me as an employee and I make a quarter that. Obviously he thinks my work is worth the $100. How come the government gets most of that? And then also taxes what I get from that.

the thing is that corporations are going to other countries because the US has the highest corporate tax in the world, we're trying to be competitive again in order to bring jobs back

>spot the anarchist

Trump's corporate tax cut would add $200-300B annually to the budget deficit. I honestly can't believe u retards are going to go for trickle down all over again.

How much of a cucked right wing retard billionaire globalist shillcuck do you have to be to think that corporations that are making BILLIONS in profits need tax cuts? You cucks are embarrassing.

As always, right wing retards don't give a shit about the budget deficit or the national debt.

Why do you care so much about corporations and wanting to tax them a few percent more or less? You make thousands of posts on the topic so it must mean something to you. Honest now what is it to you?

because taxes are not on the rich and corporations that is just where they are collected
look at payroll and sales taxes

Laffer curve. Lower taxation promotes more spending and growth. You can even point to Ibn Khaldun, an Islamic philosopher, for first theorizing this (at least, the first to write something along these lines, Whites may have had the idea in the past) to get some DIVERSITY cred.

>How do I explain...

The same way con-artists like Trump 'explain'... namely, talk a good "populist" game, then proceed to hire Goldman Sachs plutocrats who know how to brainwash the drooling rightwing simpletons that make up his base, while simultaneously increasing his own wealth. Wall Street USA, whoooooh!!!

Where do you think the trickle down comes from?

The idea is that the rich getting tax breaks and having more money means they will invest it into the economy.

But if you're a business owner, and your business is self-sustaining, are you going to put your personal money into that? Why would you? You've already built it up so you don't have to anymore. The company makes its own money for growth.

less taxes for rich means the rich people will spend more money and hire more people via the free market

>Billionaire worth $25 billion dollars pays taxes

Right wing retards: Get that man a tax cut!

>122840056
>the solution is more revenue for the government
>we don't have enough money yet
>just a little more, then it will finally be redistributed
>we promise, left wing retards
>now excuse me while, in addition to that, I also wield the power of monopolized violence.

>Don't use words, use free helicopter rides.
You don't, because that's fucking retarded. Automation and outsourcing will still be a thing and you'll be even more fucked.

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people sitting on their ass throwing money at stockbrokers to pump up bubbles on the stock market are not 'earning' anything worthwhile to society, which is why such activity should be taxed at a high marginal rate, that would encourage productive investment, not unproductive speculation

>just print more
made me kek

Get me a Parliamentary Budget staff and I will let you know.

Taxes on the rich and taxes on corporations aren't the same fucking thing.

I love exposing right wing retards for the billionaire globalist shillcucks you are

>How do I explain to liberals that lowering taxes for the rich and corporations is a good thing?
Fuck the rich. There is never any argument for lowering taxes for the middle class. I'm sick of this intential omission.
Lower taxes all you want. The rich and corporations will evade that tax, too. Middle class often can't run away from taxes. If they do, they're fucked. The middle class needs help unshoveling the shit that the government pushed them into.

Daily reminder that liberals made up the term 'trickle down economics' and actually just think it is demand side economics for rich people

>Laffer curve.

Here you go

So are you posting from a hand made ham radio right now or from a 1000 dollar computer your parents bought you with extra income? Or a $900 phone you got for free for signing a 2 year mobile plan?

It's not about lowering taxes really. while you can lower taxes for them I think it's more important to close any tax loopholes that are in place so companies can't exploited them. I'm not sure how it is in the states but it's a big problem for us here in Australia where big companies like Apple can get away with paying less than half of their taxes because of shitty loopholes in the system.

>Billionaire employs millions of people
Left-wing retards: Steal his money to give to niggers!
>Oops, millions of people lost their jobs
Left-wing retards: duh wun percent did this!

THE WEALTH WILL TRICKLE DOWN.....AGAIN

This kills the right wing retard billionaire globalist shillcuck.

"It is striking to note that the best growth years for the bottom 99 percent since 1990 have taken place in the mid to late 1990s and since 2013, shortly after increases in top tax rates," Saez wrote.

tampabay.com/news/business/economicdevelopment/study-obama-tax-hikes-on-rich-didnt-hurt-economy-or-rich/2301353

you don't, dummy

You're a fucking moron. There are only a handful of billionaires. The corporate tax affects everyone who owns stocks, and if we want to lure businesses into the United States, we might not want the highest corporate tax on earth.

>wealthy drive the entire economy
Well, middle class, time to pack it up. Your consumption and creation of resources isn't enough to drive the economy.

these right wing retards fall for it every time

Everything left of the Laffer Point means more growth and investment, meaning more money from less taxation.

You're not exposing anything. Conservatives are quite open about supporting lowering taxes for the rich and businesses. Its only leftist that see that as some great sin.

Compare how much your parents were making under Reagan in the 80s to what you made under 8 years of Obama.

>believing the inflation meme

Sounds like it dosent help the economy at all if thats the outcome. Just makes some assholes very rich.

You don't.

Lowering taxes to small corporations stimulate the economy. Lowering taxes to big corporations just create billionaires without actually adding much to the middle class.

The US already attracts the top businesses in the world you moron, the USD is strong as hell, job creation is strong, stock markets are up and unemployment is low.

THANKS OBAMA

The only reason you right wing retards exist on this planet is to fight for tax cuts for your billionaire globalist overlords. You dedicate your entire life to that cause.

>Enterprising middle class can't provide wages
I guess only the rich get plumbing, cable, mechanical work, etc.

>when the slide man pull through with a decent slide
youtu.be/v_ET6fR10ag

i feel like a real canadian would have thought about his own countries corporate rate....

I'm sure that's because he raised taxes and not because of the bull market caused by Reagan's policies.

Inflation has only been kept in check by massive productivity gains and cheap crap from China
Why don't you go buy a house in Vancouver

>How do I explain to liberals that lowering taxes for the rich and corporations is a good thing?
JUST REMIND THEM THAT THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT MACRON THE LEFTIST GLOBALIST CANDIDATE WANTS TO DO IN FRANCE


FUCK FRANCE

mostly by being rich and giving them money to agree with and support your position.

seems to work well for Democrats

I'm sure it had nothing to do with the dot com boom and mass expansion of new tech marketplaces that came entirely out of the pockets of wealthy silicon valley intelligencia who avoid taxes like the plague.

>How do I explain to liberals that lowering taxes for the rich and corporations is a good thing?

Do you have brain damage?