Why Hitler a socialist if he hated communism so much...

Why Hitler a socialist if he hated communism so much? I was always under the impression that communism was the end game of socialism, and that the two were very similar.

Wrong kind of socialism bub

can you explain the difference?

"socialism" was heavily influenced and defined by Karl Marx. It was his means to and end, the end being communism. It advocated for classless equality and shared productions. "National Socialism" was born in some ways as an opposition to Marxism. It threw out a lot of the Marxist ideas and advocated for a racial hierarchy, social Darwinism, and a rejection of foreign cultures and ideas. The main similarities are the name, obviously, and the authoritarian aspect of each. The end goal and internal systems are different though. One means to create an "equal utopia" while the other aims to maintain culture and racial purity.

It's also worth noting that socialism and communism were created as an alternative to capitalism. National socialism was meant to be an alternative to capitalism and socialism.

socialism is communism you retard.

what is generally the natsoc view of capitalism and free trade?

No its not dumbass. Socialism is a watered down version of communism meant to be a stepping stone to communism. All the "communist" countries weren't actually communist, they were socialist. No country has ever reached the communism stage. Read a fucking book.

wasnt socialism as we know in the west know it

Gee no idea.

>muh communism has never been tried
hahahahahah typical libshill

allowed but under the regime rule
Hitler imposed a wage limit to the CEOs and stuff

Hitler believed in National Socialism, not Socialism for a Multi-Culti shit hole.

Socialism in a Multi-Culti shit-hole, is designed to fail.

The Non-White parasites will drain the system, until it collapses.

was there potential to become a wealthy entrepreneur under the nazi regime?

Protectionism, social welfare, public work projects, and private ownership were all aspects of national socialism. The wanted to encourage the good things about capitalism such as competition and innovation, but eliminate all the abuse and scamming big companies perpetuate.

Try again faggot
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>global stateless society has been tried

k bruv

use actual logic instead of insults, oh wait, thats all you leftists have

he is probably literally a nazi

>Why Hitler a socialist
He was not

what is the difference in regards to how it is applied to a country? I understand both are authoritarian, but do both make citizens work for little or no income?

You should read Mein Kampf(original version). He explain it in this book. He has a complete other understanding for this term.

Not exactly. They wanted to promote innovation and contributions that would help the country as a whole. You definitely wouldn't be living in poverty and in ideal circumstance the economy would be booming and everyone could own whatever they pleased. You wouldn't have any of the mega rich billionaires you have today though.

Don't get me wrong though, contributing to the labor force wouldn't be for nothing. If you worked you would get wealth, you just couldn't exploit the system to become vastly rich.

In Hitler's Germany the Worker was praised, and they earned a good wage.

Hitler fostered the idea that the man building the roads, was just as valuable as the Intellectuals.

The workers were creating a better Germany for everyone.

Under Communism/Socialism the lower classes are used as a weapon to attack the upper class, in order to topple that system.

The oppressed and oppressor narrative.

It all comes down to leadership.

>"Communism has never happened because it's basically impossible to pull off without literal brainwashing"
>"Lol libshit advocating communism again!"
Solid bait

he is advocating communsim you shill.

am actually halfway threw at the moment
think im starting so understand the difference

Do you think that natsoc would be successful if adopted again? or does it require the rare kind of leadership Hitler had?

You are the dumbest person I've seen on Sup Forums today and that is saying A LOT. You are either a troll, a shill, or a Reddit tier idiot.

It will fail in a Multi-Culti system.

The parasites will eat it alive, until nothing is left.

How ethnocentric do you think the society would need to be for it to work? Would natsoc work with a mix of Americans, Slavs, and Europeans?

I think it could be successful again, but it would take a drastic change in the global political climate. Instead of turning our governments into NatSoc states we should focus on taking aspects of National Socialism and implementing them into the current governments.

What's with this lolbertarian faggot claiming socialism is communism? National socialism is putting your boot at the Jew's throat. Capitalism is communism (see United States).

Dat hidden hand.

So you openly admitting Hitler was a commie. Is there any more PROOF that you need to understand that natsocs DO NOT BELONG on Sup Forums?

I just learned about Hitler's national socialism. Life changing stuff.

holy shit retard

read a book

We in the West know socialism as free healthcare.

Looks like school finally let out.

Yes it could when the focus was set on personal responsibility, where everyone was working towards the same goal of creating a better Nation.

What we have now is the opposite of that. Non-Whites have no Patriotism towards America, in many instances they despise it. They also lack personal responsibility, and see no problem mooching off a system that they have been taught discriminates against them anyway.

It's all based on the leadership, and our leadership is corrupt to the core.

They are trying to destroy us, not lift us up.

/thread

Looks like you need a fucking helicopter ride. Only kids find edgy nazis as cool.

Right wing retards are SO STUPID

Hitler was a capitalist and his "socialism" stood for collectivism and the greater good.

That hand placement is symbolic of Free Masonry, isn't it?

So his socialism stood for socialism?

Read Spengler, dumbass.

Shaming Tactics do not work.

>>>/leftypol/

If anything, he's advocating Nazi principles though, and even that's a bit of a stretch

It worked the first time. I have yet to see a report about Germans hating their lives in Nazi Germany. Literally everyone was happy. Hitler lifted Germany out of poverty in what is considered the greatest economic "miracle" (it wasn't a miracle, it was NatSoc) while capitalist UK and US were experiencing the worst financial crisis in history.

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Marxist socialism/communism is about the abolishing traditional class systems. Radical progressivism.

'Nationalist Socialism' was the exact opposite, radical regressivism. They consciously and deliberately sought to return to a feudal social order.

>we always fuck up when given one nation, but just let use try it with the whole world.

whatever is best for the people

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>Would natsoc work with a mix of Americans, Slavs, and Europeans?

Maybe. They would have to consider themselves to be the same people though. If there are various competing ethnic groups, like in modern day America, the whole thing falls apart.

>it wasn't real socialism!

Because National Socialism has the word socialism in it you assume it has to do with Marx's ideology and then you extrapolate that Hitler was a communist.
Which is false.
National Socialism is Tribalism (literally the only system proven stable for any length of time) applied to the national level.

>socialism has failed every time its been attempted
>fascism produced the single most powerful country in the world at the time
Really makes ya think

Socialism isn't necessarily marxist

And fascism fell because a libertarian country kicked it's ass. It doesn't work.

Communism operates that the society is classless.

Socialism still retains class and culture in regards to wealth.

In the case of Nazi Germany, race purity or unity and nationalism and elimination of inferior elements with the goal to have no divide or differences to squabble about and that society could progress on that front.

You see somewhat a similar strain of this now with the recent wave of feminism and the modern liberalism of this days age. It's about eliminating hate speech or any dissenting view and an idea that everything is inclusive and feelings are protected. Operates much in the same way.

Classical Liberalism in the sense of individual freedom to the extreme but with the government only intervening when it leads to actions that are unjust. Such as you have the freedom to engage in any idea but if you practice that idea and it harms others such as shouting fire in a theater that induces panic or going on to commit hate crimes , then that's where the line gets drawn.

Whereas this modern liberalism and feminism is about quelling ideas or notions that are seen as potentially toxic or aggressive.

>And fascism fell because a libertarian country kicked it's ass.

This is what Americans actually believe.

>USA won WWII on it's own
No.

That's right. Fuck Russia. We could have kick there ass too.

But you didn't because your kike masters wouldn't let you.

Found a pic of the lolbertarian

80% of our casualties were on the eastern front against the soviets. You, England, France and the rest of the western countries are only responsible for 20% of our casualties. Liberal/Libertarian countries suck at war.

this has actually been a really nice thread, learned a bit too

Glad to here it OP. I tried explaining as much as I could before people started shitting up the thread.

All marxism is socialism, but not all socialism is marxism.

one last question from me; when the leader of a natsoc society needs to be replaces, how will the nation decide on a new leader?

The difference is instead of trading goods for our paper money, NatSoc trades goods for goods. The people truly build the country themselves.

Exactly. Both are trashy reactionary ideologies of the losers of the day.

Productive property is all that has ever mattered and all that ever will. The information age will only underscore this, as information about people with money to spend will ultimately prove orders or magnitude more valuable than information about people with no money to spend.

USA supplied USSR as hell
so USA in fact won because they were a bitch

We could have taken the Russians right after Germany went down.
>if Patton wasn't assassinated.

Primogeniture, his sons will be raised by the council of pepe to serve the nation and people above all else and provide the nation with happenings galore

sounds about right.

You can't explain that to these retards. They imagine stealing other people's money to be righteous.