Why didn't Yugoslavia work out longer? Could the former countries of it perhaps have their own federation, at least those not in the EU?
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here we go again
Can i be the one selling tickets for the shitshow that is about to follow?
because you and your puppets destroyed it by funding nationalist movements making the country go to debt while bombing the infrastructure but leaving the american infrastructure
and now i have to work in canada and clean their toilets, thanks assholes
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Serbs ruined absolutely fucking everything.
Because I wasnt leading it.
Serbs were keeping everything together you filthy liar. You should have supported them not fought against them with mudslimes
This is what happened desu. Which thread is this by number though?
These threads are absolute shitshow
what is Karlobag-Ogulin-Karlovac-Virovitica?
>making the country go to debt
it was already in debt
people are too stupid to realize how tito got all that money from loans lmao, and they cry how great he was
I dunno you tell me
First Yugoslavia was under Serbian hegemony. They wanted to rule all the states, so they started murdering Croatian politicians, and terrorizing the people.
This is where Ustaše appear and start knocking some sense into Serbs by genociding them.
Second Yugoslavia was a Socialist shithole. Not only was it a Bolshevik satellite state, it was also endorsed by Serbian royal family in exile. Absolute fucking shitshow, chetniks+communists, Jesus Fucking Christ.
Anyway, this second Yugoslavia ended affairs with USSR and got in game with NATO because they were wealthier and could sponsor more funds. This is famous Tito's "no" to Stalin.
Afterwards, Socialists ran the country the only way they can. Borrowing money from the IMF.
When Tito died and the Cold War ended, America came knocking on doors asking for credit to be paid back. Knowing that they have no money, CIA, UDBA and the rest of the monkeys decided to organize the war of privatization, NATO pacts, to repay back Yugoslav debt.
This is when Serbs and Croats got riled up with Nationalism, and Serbs got extra hegemonical again, started the war, got defeated, and ethnically cleansed.
The End.
Serbs are retards just like us and the Muslims. Stop watching memes.
Google "Battle of Vukovar". Serbs literally couldn't defeat one squad of villagers armed with homemade cannons and hunting guns for three fucking months, and they had entire JNA (third military force in Europe at the time).
They like genocides more
>squad of villagers armed with homemade cannons and hunting guns
thats bs tho
>Serbs literally couldn't defeat one squad of villagers armed with homemade cannons and hunting guns for three fucking months
i can't believe how you made a myth from it like we made the one from the kosovo war against ottomans
because USA/Jewry promised many gibs to all states who secede
Hey Stipe why dont you ask your Nazi grandfather why he didn't like Yugoslavia.
And why do you hate freed,..I mean ,,Bratstvo i Jedinstvo''?
Soros paid provocation and riots, Milosevic not being as good as Tito, and American bombings pretty much.
Distancing itself from the USSR as it did, and with the fall of said union Yugoslavia never stood a chance.
Because Croats and Slovenians wanted an independent country which they had every right to?
also
>They wanted to rule all the states, so they started murdering Croatian politicians, and terrorizing the people.
it was YOUR people that wanted to be in yugoslavia in the first place
As opposed to the Serbs in Croatia, who had no right to self-determination?
I guess the mexicans and natives should take back every bit of US clay then amiright?
self-determination my dude
that's exactly what albanians did to us tho
daily reminder that Tito was your guy and most of the leading commies were either kikes or Croats and Slovenians
That's why it worked before people like Šešelj started opening their fat stupid mouths
Serbs had been in Croatia for billions of years my Aboriginal friend. Totally different from us pushing out Spic invaders.
Ahem, May i remind you that the balkans were split between latins and Greeks before the slavic hordes invaded. So yeah when are you leaving muh dude?
qq moar faggot
no ones fault but yours you couldnt stop a backwards low iq population from overunning you
>tfw sweden cuck tier lvl
What Serb nationalists consider to be rightful Serbian clay.
but anyways the entire ex-yugo countries are filled with subhumans who'll spend the entire day bitching out their own country for being incredibly corrupt and backwards but the second you agree with them they get extremely defensive and nationalistic. Everyone's too pessimistic to ever fix anything and political leaders only need to utter the words Chetnik, Ustase or Mujahadeen in order to get absolute support.
>inb4 diaspora
fuck yugoslavia
why the fuck would we want a country together?
we fucking hated each other for fucking centuries and we made a fucking country together
Wait, Thracians and Dacians were neither Greek/Latin nor Slavic, weren't they?
>Serbs had been in Croatia for billions of years
>Spic invaders
time to stop posting amerikan spy
they were after they got raped by both ;)
you are slavic rapebaby tho
t.vlach rape baby
You're literally the same people, just with incredibly minor genetic and religious and lingual differences. If Tito did a better job homogenizing Yugoslavia, you'd still be one country.
yeah we couldn't stop NATO, what embarrassment
They can make it work without macedonia (awkward borders)
And kosovo is gone too
That leaves Croatia, Serbia, Bosnia, Slovenia and Montenegro
We'll chill here or go to bulgaria
This is what neo-Yugoslavia would look like
>Croats
Hungarian rape babies
>Serbs
Turkish rape babies
>Bulgarians
Turks
>Romanians
Russian rape babies
>Bosniaks
literally Croats and Serbs
>Slovenians
Austrian rape babies
Nah
We hated each other for centuries
It all started in the 15th century when Serbs came into our lands
Fuck Yugoslavia, I am happy with Croatia with what it is today.
that's why you got cucked for the Bay of the Piran and Istra
Seselj started with the bantz when Croatia and Bosnia wanted to secced from Yugoslavia with our people and territories
it's not us who wanted greater Serbia
it's them who wanted smalle Serbia
it's not us holdin and occupying Corats and bosnians on our land not giving them the opportunity to unite
it's croatia and bosnia holding our people, territory and properties hostages
we should have accepted The treaty of London and create single Serbian state,
if that would have happened you would had been assimilated into Italy
because that was the case
try sometimes to be, little gratefull
Zlovenian
after we won WW1 with allies your leaders begged us to save you from being anexed into Italy and thus becoming obsolete as a nation
we sent 2 division of a freshly from war returned, battle hardened, serbians, armed to the teeth, to save you guys
we did the same thing with the hungary
they were literally shaking their asses
>NATO HELJP
nato didnt force albonigs to breed like rabbits on serb clay
About as different as Scots are from the English, or Sicilians from North Italians.
Fuck off
We proposed a peaceful deal and you denied it
Its your own fucking fault you aggressive autist
nigger, my point is that we were pretty successful in zerg cleansing before NATO decided to intervene
this is Serbian Population
you tell me what our state borders should look like
>In 1989 Šešelj returned to the United States where Momčilo Đujić, a Chetnik leader from World War II living there in exile, bestowed on Šešelj the title Vojvoda (duke) of the Chetniks, to make a "unitary Serbian state where all Serbs would live, occupying all the Serb lands".[24] Together with Vuk Drašković and Mirko Jović, Šešelj founded the anti-communist Chetnik party[25] Serbian National Renewal (SNO) in late 1989.[26]
>In March 1990, together with Drašković, he however went on to form the monarchist party Serbian Renewal Movement (SPO).[25] that he soon left again to form the more radical Serbian Chetnik Movement (SČP). Because of its name the party was denied registration, but was merged in March 1991 with the National Radical Party (NRS) creating the Serbian Radical Party (SRS) under his presidency.[24] He has described himself and his supporters as "not fascists, just chauvinists who hate Croats."[27] In late 1991, during the Battle of Vukovar, Šešelj went to Borovo Selo to meet with a Serbian Orthodox Church bishop and publicly described Croats as a genocidal and perverted people.[28]
>The paramilitary group White Eagles active at the time in the Yugoslav Wars was reportedly associated with him, being referred to as Šešeljevci ("Šešelj's men").[29][30] In May and July 1992, Šešelj visited the Vojvodina village of Hrtkovci and initiated a campaign of persecution of local ethnic Croats.[31][32]
what nice people you are
Then why does everyone complain so much and why is the country incredibly insecure.
Confident secure countries don't throw a hissy fit at the idea of having to include bilingual cyrillic signs in Vukovar or politicians giving children Serbian chocolate. Things won't improve because politicians will continue to be able to abuse these insecurities while they steal from Croatians everyday. Only real hope is the EU at least giving us some decent anti-corruption measures.
Now post a 2016 version
lmao
you lost the war
we should have shutted your dirty stable mouth, because you had zero saying in any shit
and this is what you propposed - pic related
and this is our population and aggain nigger you lost the war, if our leaders were wiser and knew you then, you would have been divided between Serbia, Italy and maybe Hungary
there would be no Croatia or only small cucked Croatia larping as allies client state
I am so glad that we won the war and cleansed you from our lands
You people are nigger tier and i'd rather live with Italians than you
Croatia won and you lost.
Simple.
both of you are dips. Europeans shouldn't fight amongst themselves. Focus on Mudslimes invaders like Bosniaks and Albos
What is the difference
>invaders
Like it or not, Bosnians and Albanians are indigenous to Europe.
I don't care
If they act like niggers, i am going to treat them like niggers
Sperging out every time we have a thread about Croatia just because they're so fucking irrelevant
There were never ethinc states in the Balkans and throughout history ethnic states have not been prominent or successful at all. I think the borders should stay as is, but in any area with say 10% or more Serbs, bilingual signs and dedicated courses in schools (intergrated schools though) should be given. Like what harm would it do for a Croatian to learn cryllic and Serbian history. It's not a goddamn ethno-state.
Look off-topic but I partially understand why Serbians wanted to form Srpska Kranja with Tudjman in charge who only gave meaningless platitudes about Croatia being a multi-ethnic state, while at the same time promoting ultra-nationalism and appointing fucking primitives.
Fuck off burger, Go invade some shit mudslime country!
every bit and every fucking inch of the illogical fallcy that you can scrape in order to drive your fake agenda, you will use
fucking unbelivable
>Now post a 2016 version
is 2016 version any different in the terms of ethnic proportions
you think tha today (maybe except for the kebabs) are our population numbers changed in the terms of the corelation significally so that that argument nullifies my claims
also we are talking about history events and the corelation of the demography criteria and state borders
so your arguments doesn't work in both cases
Barely any serbs
Too independent and uncontrollable for their own good
Why are you so butthurt my turkish friend?
Who cares? They turned traitor by converting to Islam. We must make an example out of them.
What like Brussels?
> Like what harm would it do for a Croatian to learn cryllic and Serbian history. It's not a goddamn ethno-state.
never post in another ex yu thread for your own sake
your leaders nor your people didn't thought the same
you won for now
but left to your own devices you got your asses handed to you on silver platter from us every time
every single time, before germans and (((nato))) has to jumps in and save you
it's really true what they say
"Croats are the bravest peopple on the earth, but not because they have no fear, but because they have no shame"
you're right across the border
>Sperging out every time we have a thread about Croatia just because they're so fucking irrelevant
it's only that one faggot who's frustrated and obsessed over you, really
tl dr
Stable boys wanted to secced from the mutual state and take our clay and our peopple
we fought to save our peopple and our territories
nato jumped in and wrecked our shit (Slovenia not included, the 10 day war was meaningless and you should have been granted easy exit ASAP)
Come and attack us faggot
I fucking dare you
Why the fuck do you shitpost on Croats every single day then?
>Why the fuck do you shitpost on Croats every single day then?
i don't, it's a mission for this nutjob
>we fought to save our peopple and our territories
you lost
>Stable boys wanted to secced from the mutual state and take our clay and our peopple
we took it, feels good man
Is there some kind of a quota that I'm not familiar with, that mandates a minimum of 12 ex-yu threads on Sup Forums every fucking day?
30% of the Bosnia and Hercegovina are Serbians
before WW1 and WW2 there were about 37% of Serbians in Croatia who fought aggainst the Ottomans so that the AH empire and Croats can have comfy life
they got genocided in WW1 and WW2 and
expelled in the YU breakup war
Would you rather (((ivanka))) or varg posting?
>centralization
JNA was 90% serbs.
Also, nationalism.
We can do great shit together, but noooo, lets chimp out like some shit tier african tribes.
Also, west needed 12m new consumers, not 12m new producers, so we are now cucked by west, and we could be center.
250 000 of serbs that cosist about 4% out your population are not barely
and how conviently you forgot to mention how many of them di you kill and forced away
that's the main argument, that todays borders are not your rightfull clay and you don't have any historical, demographical, legal clam to all of that land
because it's just temporarelly
and also there is war reparations debt you owe us for the genocide in the WW2 and slaughter in WW1
srbija je kosovo
I'm glad it got broken up. the best fucking thing that ever happened to bosniaks. Yugoslavia was just an internal power war between the corats and the serbs. Other states literally got jack shit. I don't even mind the horrible war and genocide, as long as we never live in a shitty union life yugoslavia ever again.
nah my hungarian stable neighbour,
not buthurth
just providing facts
wish you could do that,
but you know
something something history, something something cowards that don' want to fight
something something austrijski dobrovoljni konjusari
...
Because they hate each other and begin massacres whenever they aren't dominated by some greater foreign power like USSR or Ottomans
I agree with you, they shouldn't have been expelled. If we hadn't voted in Tudjman maybe they wouldn't have rebelled but on the other hand Serb nationalists in Serbia were already encouraging serb nationalism in Croatia and were spreading fear that it would be NDH pt.2: electric bogaloo. Tudjman just fanned the flames further by being a NDH apologist.
Look my point is both sides' leaders played their respective people and caused this shit. I'm not arguing for holding hands and singing kumbaya but we're not tribal primitives and we can largely live together.
nigger you waited 5 years before (((nato))) pulled your pussy gender queer army to fight
>Says Stipe for 400055645th time as his nazi grandfather who betrayed his country gets destroyed by commies who's also a Croatian but blames it all on Serbs anyway
Croatians are literally niggers of Balkans just GIBS ME DAT and WE DINDU NUFFIN
commie government was 99% croats and slovenians
starting from the giga croat king Tito
>Why didn't Yugoslavia work out longer?
It wasn't capitalist.
>I'm not arguing for holding hands and singing kumbaya but we're not tribal primitives and we can largely live together.
this
croats are faggots
Loving that nigger hate
Feels good ;D
>I'm not arguing for holding hands and singing kumbaya but we're not tribal primitives and we can largely live together.
yeah that's why you moved to Tasmania, and now preach about good relationships from the other side of the globe. fuck you.
no you didn't do jack shit
(((nato))) took it an gave it to you
and tah all comes with the high prices that you''l already paying
they also gave unimaginable high taxe and living costs
cucked coastline with Neum border
declining population
and skyroocketing unemployment
so everytinh like Slovenia but the opposite
and speaking in the geopolitical terms croatia beside deing germany cumm bucket and toilet cleaning servis workforce has no any meaningfully ally in the world based on the ethnicity, religion and culture that they can call their owns
your whole existance you served as a proxy cannon fodder artificial state to serve geopolitical goals
that's why you got shit compared to Slovenia
and you served germans so well
>Yugoslavia was indebt
That id just a meme. Countries these days are 100 times more in debt and there isn't even a suggestion of civil unrest or solvency concerns. In 1987 Yugo's debt was 21 billion dollars which was up from 17 billion in 1980 when Tile died. The GDP was 120 billion in 1991.
Conclusion? Debt to GDP was maybe 20% when the west was screaming: REEEEEEEEE PAY BACK MUH DEBBETS in the early 90s. They freaked the fuck out of investors and venues for funds and caused inflation to rise 160%.
at least they got something out form all that dick sucking?
what did the serbs ever get from the ruskies? except some useless veto votes now and then and a few broken war jets, what did they really give serbia?
meanwhile you can find actual serbs looking like that in serbia
top kek
You're 10x worse than Croatia you filthy nigger
Slovenia got it easy getting independent
We lost shit tons of people and they didn't lose shit, nothing.
>Implying you're any better
no matter what happens
you'll always will be osteromongol stable larping nigger without history and heritage
nomatter what you do you'' always be shallow exscuse of a morally bancrupt human
no charm
no bantz
nothing
no wonder your stronk wymynz are cucking your already declining population
you're an epitome of a cringe
Your population decline is higher than ours you retarded shit