In order for gender to be a spectrum, we first have to accept that there is such a thing as being mentally male or female. We then have to accept that it is mentally possible to be imutably some combination of these two. There is no reason to believe there is such a thing as being mentally male or female, as "sex" only refers to physical, measurable properties, and there is no definition for male or female mentality based on any objectively, imutably existent state of mind, much less is it measurable. There is neither a reason to believe there is such a thing as being mentally some combination of male and female, as there is no definition for any combination of male and female mentality based on any objectively, imutably existent state of mind, much less is it measurable. Even if it were accepted that these exist, they are still not measurable and thus, people are not qualified to - and have no right to - neither decide what combination of male and female they are mentally, nor demand other people recognize and acknowledge their self-designation. Until such things are actually determined to exist as measurable, imutable, objective states, there is no reason to believe "gender identity" is anything but fantasy.
Start calling these people by their sex, watch them get mad, and explain that you were merely referring to their "sex identity." If they protest, ask them why calling them what they are makes them angry. If they say "muh gender identity," tell them that's a false dilemma, and that there's no reason for them to get mad at someone calling them what they are unless they're trying to deny reality.
It might even be possible to accuse people who refuse to acknowledge "sex identity" of being sexist.
they can hit me up with this BS when they prove there are new chromosomes other than X and Y
Aiden Campbell
(There are many more chromosomes than X and Y... just not more sex chromosomes.)
Anthony Williams
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Gavin Campbell
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Caleb Nelson
>goes to Sup Forums
>talks about gender opression
Fuck off you redditorfag. Post that on Sup Forums, we don't want SJW trash here.
Isaac Davis
I thought there wasn't supposed to be gender roles? I thought I wasn't supposed to stop my daughter from playing with trucks? I thought I wasn't supposed to stop my son from playing with dolls?
Rachel Bloom en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Bloom Early life[edit] Bloom was born in Los Angeles and grew up in Manhattan Beach,[8] the daughter of Shelli (née Rosenberg) and Alan Bloom.[1][9] Her family is Jewish.[10]
Anthony Peterson
amazing picture
Matthew Clark
>read
>important
What is read?
Wyatt Scott
Your white male """logic""" is oppression masquerading as some nonexistent """objectivity""". Why should we accept the legitimacy of the hammer you wish to beat us with?
No, we reject your """logic""" and asinine, arbitrary, and unproven """laws""" like the principle of non-contradiction, which oppress queerfolk, women, and people of color.
Logan Jackson
>her family is Jewish EVERY. FUCKING. TIME.
Cooper White
So if you're trans you have a genetic defect, thanks got it
Henry Russell
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Jacob Hernandez
Is anyone surprised by this? They caught Bill butt diddling little kids, and the Jews force him to make this propaganda shit for the rest of his life...
Jaxon Gutierrez
He's also a fake dj
Ian Richardson
Pretty fucking good
Owen Flores
They are everywhere. We must go back to the good old times.
Angel Young
Fuck off faggot
Hunter Jackson
You're arguing against an argument that hasn't been made
Kevin Roberts
>They caught Bill butt diddling little kids
What the fuck? Sauce?
Adrian Bennett
Probably could have just bribed him.
Jack Rogers
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Eli Garcia
Fucking amazing
Bentley Roberts
Seconded, sauce required.
Lucas Bennett
Why the fuck is gizmodo talking about this shit? Isn't it a tech website?
Alexander Cox
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Adrian Gomez
>criticizing western culture for the sake of criticizing it, yet providing no substantive argument the jew is strong with this one
Michael Nelson
Yes, not that it follows from the image posted. Transpeople are transsexual, not 'transgender.' Our brains contain functional mental maps of our bodies. Some people's mental maps get fucked up (likely a genetic defect). Sort of like 'phantom limb' for an amputee.
It's up to a transsexual and their doctor to decide whether it is better for the patient to change their body or change their minds -- the way they view their body. For some people it will be easier to change their minds. But this is not a political or moral issue. This is a private medical issue.
Sebastian Perry
user, manga name?
Luke Smith
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Colton Reed
I've wanted to bang this jewess ever since I saw that one video about boobies
Dominic White
Donno why they like to classify genetic dysfunctions as normal things.
They're actual dysfunctions for a reason. It's things that are not supposed to happen/are not natural.
It's like me getting a rat that was born without front legs and saying "THIS IS 10000% NATURAL AND MEANT TO BE"
Brandon Thompson
>It's like me getting a rat that was born without front legs and saying >"THIS IS 10000% NATURAL AND MEANT TO BE"
Or like saying, "THIS MEANS RATS CAN'T BE DEFINED AS HAVING FRONT LEGS."
Gavin Hill
No such "mental map" objectively, imutably, nor measurably exists. "Body dysphoria" or w/e the fuck therefore can't be chalked up to anything but mental illness. The question is therefore only "Do we change the mind because of this mental illness or change the body to conform to this mental illness"? It should also be considered how often changing the body actually fixes the mental illness.
Of course, these more mentally ill people (leftists) would and thus do try to say these things are fake or debunked, to protect their narrative.
Jason Green
False equivocation of "rat" and "normal rat," idiot.
Ryder Edwards
>false equivocation
Redundancy, idiot. All equivocation is false. Look up the word.
>"rat" and "normal rat,"
Tautology, idiot. When one says "rat" without additional specification, it means "normal rat."
Jack Cruz
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Justin Murphy
>implying redundancy isn't useful for things like emphasis >When one says "rat" without additional specification, it means "normal rat." If this is true, then your contention >Or like saying, "THIS MEANS RATS CAN'T BE DEFINED AS HAVING FRONT LEGS." is a non sequitur, idiot.
Christopher Ward
He has to curse them, they all think their hot shit, also checked
Parker Walker
>"Body dysphoria" or w/e the fuck therefore can't be chalked up to anything but mental illness.
You say "mental illness" as though that's the end of the story. It isn't. It's the beginning of the story. I was describing a type of mental illness.
> The question is therefore only "Do we change the mind because of this mental illness or change the body to conform to this mental illness"?
No shit, that's exactly what I said.
> It should also be considered how often changing the body actually fixes the mental illness.
Of course. This also does not contradict anything I said. Note: unless correlation is separated from causation, the suicide studies are not very informative.
You also responded to a mention of changing the body by referencing only the most drastic way of changing the body. Hormones and blockers also change the body. I doubt there is as much regret in those areas.
>Of course, these more mentally ill people (leftists)
Overlapping transexuals and leftists is fucking retarded. Leftists are often wrong. It's not an actual legitimate mental illness, though parts of the ideology may result from mental illness, and the same is true on the right.
You don't seem to have much of a point here.
Hunter Murphy
The problem with trannies, well one problem, is that we do not give a fuck about gender only biological sex.
Thomas Morales
>>implying redundancy isn't useful for things like emphasis I'll gladly say it outright. The redundancy of "fals equivocation" implies that there is such a thing as true or valid equivocation. There isn't.
>is a non sequitur, idiot. No it isn't, idiot. You're not making any sense. You certainly haven't made a case.
Nathan Brown
Outrageous! Jews are stealing even from other Jews now! Oy vey!
Xavier Ramirez
Can't be a goy if you're a Jew.
Alexander Bell
OK so If gender is a spectrum
And gender is "fluid", meaning a person has the ability to change how they "identify" at will
why can't people just change their "identity" to match their hardware?
Doesn't that make a lot more sense than a costly series of operations that will never succeed anyway?
Logan Lewis
If you have XX, you go to the woman's bathroom.
If you have XY, you go to the men's bathroom.
If you have anything else, you go to the Xaviar's School for Gifted Youngsters
Chase Flores
These people realize that Bill Nye is an actor, right? Or more precisely, a janitor playing actor.
Not a single word that ever came out of his mouth was his own. Before it was the show's writers, now it's globalist propagandists.
Nathaniel Adams
Can you read the rules next time faggot? This isn't politics in any shape or form. Go shill your twitter garbage and push your agenda elsewhere.
Brayden Perry
Anyone who passes as the opposite sex is also free to use the opposite sex's bathroom. And that's not "should be free," but "IS free." No one will know. And that's fine. It takes a lot of work and dedication to pass as the opposite sex. It's self-regulating.
Colton Parker
Also, I like when liberals bring up genetic disorders that affect literally 1 in a million people as some kind of argument.
Ryder Hill
>I can't read
Brody Richardson
In order for gender to be a spectrum, we first have to accept that there is such a thing as being mentally male or female. We then have to accept that it is mentally possible to be imutably some combination of these two. There is no reason to believe there is such a thing as being mentally male or female, as "sex" only refers to physical, measurable properties, and there is no definition for male or female mentality based on any objectively, imutably existent state of mind, much less is it measurable. There is neither a reason to believe there is such a thing as being mentally some combination of male and female, as there is no definition for any combination of male and female mentality based on any objectively, imutably existent state of mind, much less is it measurable. Even if it were accepted that these exist, they are still not measurable and thus, people are not qualified to - and have no right to - neither decide what combination of male and female they are mentally, nor demand other people recognize and acknowledge their self-designation. Until such things are actually determined to exist as measurable, imutable, objective states, there is no reason to believe "gender identity" is anything but fantasy.
Start calling these people by their sex, watch them get mad, and explain that you were merely referring to their "sex identity." If they protest, ask them why calling them what they are makes them angry. If they say "muh gender identity," tell them that's a false dilemma, and that there's no reason for them to get mad at someone calling them what they are unless they're trying to deny reality.
It might even be possible to accuse people who refuse to acknowledge "sex identity" of being sexist.
Now we need to enter deep space to fix the error on the pioneer plaque or aliens think we raycist and sexist
Jose Butler
>reddit-spacing stupid leaf You win. I'm not going to read any of this, thus I am ignorant. >implies that there is such a thing as true or valid equivocation. Irrelevant. Being redundant isn't a fallacy. And no it doesn't. This is also a non sequitur. X can be false without the possibility of it being true, hence the existence of "equivocation" in the first place. Redundancy can also be used for clarification. Just saying "equivocation" sounds weird. >No it isn't, idiot. If a rat were to have no legs, it would be an abnormal rat. If the "rat," without additional specification means "normal rat," then the statement "THIS MEANS RATS CAN'T BE DEFINED AS HAVING FRONT LEGS," is talking about normal rats. If rats with no legs are abnormal rats, then their existence doesn't imply normal rats can't be defined as having legs... you fucking idiot.
I am hiding you now because you are apparently too stupid to talk to.
Luke Russell
Reminder that this is a National Socialist board, not a place for discussing gender studies garbage. Let the gender scientists figure that out.
Jason Allen
Didn't read your faggot bullshit. Eat shit and die you fucking nigger kike.
Oliver Perez
Phil Plait is one of the writers -- an astronomer SJW blogger, not a biologist. He's responsible for Elevatorgate exploding. He's the one who convinced thousands of young minds that to ask a woman to your place for coffee after speaking to her (not that that actually happened, Watson made it up) is a "POTENTIAL RAPE," and as such was a threat. The fact that men have free will and a capacity to choose to do wrong makes them all "potential rapists." Phil Plait is one of the main people responsible for the destruction of the atheist/skeptic movement.
Liam Parker
>Of course. This also does not contradict anything I said. Note: unless correlation is separated from causation, the suicide studies are not very informative.
So why do they kill themselves? Because they are "discriminated against"?
Jace Perez
Checked. Nye has no self control or empathy for children. No wonder his marriage ended in flames.
Jaxson Turner
Daily reminder that there are at least two studies, one acknowledged by the National Health Institute, that states Gender Identity Disorder is symptomatic of schizophrenia, and that taking medicine to control schizophrenia alleviates the desires to change genders.
Remember, the above doesn't count as science because it's mean to people.
Tyler Torres
What is up with newfags copy-pasting OPs in a reply. Is this what you think a copypasta is or something? Get out. We don't need more stupid people here.
Luke Edwards
Why is bill nye such a misogynist? All proud feminists know there are no differences between men's brains and women's brains, yet here you have someone talking about people being mentally male or mentally female. This is EXTREMELY problematic.
Connor Allen
>If a rat were to have no legs, it would be an abnormal rat. If the "rat," without additional specification means "normal rat," then the statement "THIS MEANS RATS CAN'T BE DEFINED AS HAVING FRONT LEGS," is talking about normal rats. If rats with no legs are abnormal rats, then their existence doesn't imply normal rats can't be defined as having legs... you fucking idiot.
Holy fucking shit lol. You took the concept I was making fun of and treated it as if I was actually espousing that concept. lmfao you stupid autistic fuckhead.
Isaac Young
>female pubic hair on males Recently found out that I have this going on as well, Fem pubes, from a different disorder.
No "happy trails" for me, feelswierdman.jpg
Sebastian Butler
I don't know exactly why. Without differentiating correlation from causation, no one knows why. That's the point.
Adam Gonzalez
Awesome.
See, -- THIS is what I'm talking about. The transsexualism isn't necsssarily the cause of higher suicide rates, and neither is sex change. It could be schizophrenia causing both the suicidalness and the transsexualism.
Lincoln Rogers
Go easy on him. It's kinda hard when you're a hue monkey.
Julian Cox
Best I can do from my obama phone.
James Moore
hehe
Leo Barnes
I shaved my happy trail when I was a teenager because friends daid grills like it and I was stupid. Ever since, it just grows all over my lower belly rather than being a neat trail anymore. feelsbadman.jpg
Jack Hughes
criminally underrated post
Evan Martin
underrated.
Xavier Reed
I don't get it.
Sebastian Reed
>Let the gender scientists figure that out.
kek
Owen Martinez
So wait. Is Sup Forums now saying that male brains and female brains are the exact same?are you guys serious?that's like arguing a niggers brain is the same as a japs.
Robert Jenkins
Absolutely brilliant, but including a female in the scientists section will shield it from "OMG WHITE MEN ARE SO EBIL NO WOMEN EHERE SO WRONG "
Elijah Lewis
>But the memory of a pissed-off man muttering "fuck, god damn it, shiiiiit" because a kid recognized him will forever stay with me.
YOU THINK UR HOT SHIT, DONTCHA?!
Elijah Hughes
Well now that science has been publicly humiliated and changed into feelings based, what will be ruined next? I have the feeling Engineering is next.
Wyatt Harris
No, just that it's not measurable and thus decisions about gender shouldn't be based on it.
Juan Barnes
Could you imagine being in this crowd? I feel so fucking bad for that audience
Tyler Miller
>the differences between the male and female brains aren't measurable
Alas, my sides! I knew them well.
Cooper Miller
That's just not true though. You can know by cortical neuron connections, grey/white matter, brain size proportinate to body, etc. These are ways we determine the brain difference from race to race. So unless Sup Forums is also saying there is no difference in brains across races or that you can't measure those differences than you're wrong.
Sebastian Campbell
In the future we will have iphones powered by feelings.
Seriously, though, the next step is probably this gender thing being projected on animals and objects. >taking a genderqueer picture of my genderqueer dog with my genderqueer iphone >#justleftistthings
Or perhaps denial of species, so "humans" and "dogs" no longer exist. >there is only one species, the earth species
Jonathan Jenkins
The battle between feels vs reals is long over, feels won on Nov 8, no point in pretending like rationality still has a chance >the jobs reports were fake but now they're not >all negative polls are fake news >I lost the popular vote because there were exactly 3 million voters (coincidentally the amount by which I lose the popular vote) >my inauguration crowds were bigger than Obama's, despite these photographs showing the opposite
Donald Trump and his campaign are the definition of "feels > reals", and he's got the buck now. I don't see things reversing course anytime soon, but it was nice shitposting here for some time.
Elijah Young
No, I mean "maleness" and "femaleness," not the difference between the two.
Julian Hall
>the brain = the mind Those determine sex. They can't be used to determine male or female "gender" as an idea.
Jordan Torres
>It could be schizophrenia Is this why individuals want to be called "they"?
Charles Hall
You sound like a leftist
Justin Evans
I'm just using their made-up terminology to refute them.
