Is Sup Forums fascist or libertarian?

Is Sup Forums fascist or libertarian?

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Sup Forums has always been Essene
to straddle the dialectic between all religions and politics

Both, to be honest.

It's a pleasant mix of right-leaning ideologies.

Whichever pisses people off the most

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Both and neither it's a clusterfuck of ideas

Libertarianism is about as realistic as Marxism. Fascism is the only way. Either that or we need to go ahead and swallow the Islam pill.

>implying Muslims don't violate the NAP and wouldn't get physically removed which would be a bigger genocide than what Nazis did

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>Essene
You're ancient jewish ascetics?

It's what i like to call libertarian fascism

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Libertarian when left alone, nazi when pushed.

Neither, I'm a feudal monarchist.

Can we be both?

Sup Forums is nothing and everything

I'm fascist. I appreciate many libertarian ideals, but the cold hard reality is that dedicated libertarians would necessarily have to develop a fascist state to ensure their liberty from external invaders and internal subversives who would take advantage of the various breaches in libertarian ideology.

We are what is necessary

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Feudal monarchies worked quite well for everybody except, funnily enough, the feudal nobles and royals who were often bankrupt and impoverished and thus constantly were selling rights and charters to peasants.

I'd say there's now a stronger libertarian presence but it used to be mainly Nazis and other fascists on pol.

Libertarians will soon evolve into fashy boys, it's the natural cycle once they get redpilled. Fascism is the only way nowadays.

National Socialist

Read Hoppe

In some points I agree with libertarians, in others with conservatives, and in others with liberals. Only dumb people accept an entire ideology with disagreeing with anything.

I'm unironically an AnCap

Well, this guy gets it. Nothing more nothing less

Anarcho-capitalist is the right designation for Sup Forums

>Libertarians will soon evolve into fashy boys, it's the natural cycle once they get redpilled. Fascism is the only way nowadays.

I don't think they evolve into fascist (even if they style themselves as such), but more of an authoritarian traditionalist with a strong liberal streak (not the degeneracy, freedom of thought, expression and self-defense).

Aren't you just so enlightened

it's also essential to read at least a little bit of everything if you're going to go into an argument

there is a word for it, don't know what the english word is, but in Swedish it's called förkovra sig.

Try white nationalist/monarchist.

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fucking esoterically based leaf

Sup Forums is autistic

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Because it's both, it's libertarian.

im a liberate but i can confirm that the majority here is either nationalist or conservatist

see

Why not both?

Libertarianism focuses more on the economic policy, natsoc more on philosophy and society in general. Abolishing the state is just as delusional an idea whether it's ancaps or commies saying it. A strong state led by the strong in will and wit is a necessity, as a weak state lead by the one with the most Jew gold and the best pepsodent smile cannot protect it's citizens. So on, and so on, you get the idea. The state can't be weak, but it can't be too powerful either. The individual cannot do whatever he likes, but he can't be entirely dependant on the state either.

Pol is pol, now get out faggot.

No. It wasn't until after the middle ages this happened. And it didn't work well for anyone except the 10% of the population being generous and exagerated.

>Sup Forums agreeing on anything that is not OP's sexual preference

>ever.

pic related

>t. weebfag
wew

Fiscally libertarian.
Socially fascist.
Kek.

I have read Hoppe, he straddles the line between libertarianism and fascism and does it quite well.

By the 13th century, serfdom was effectively dead in all of Western Europe. Prior to the 10th century, shit was cuhrazy in Europe.
And it worked great for everybody for centuries except heretics and usurpers, but they deserve to die.

No he doesn't, you just have to realize that degeneracy comes from dissonance with the natural order. When mankind is truly free man is moral.

fascism until ((((((((subversive elements))))))) are removed, and then libertarian, when the only remaining people will naturally gravitate toward mutual, voluntary assistance of one another due to their homogeneity, high trust, and general good moral character
>progress aston

The racially pure white society eventually becomes the libertarian society. The non-white society will never be libertarian because they will invariably choose gibs.

>Isle of Man
Why are people ignoring the flag?

Came to post this, thanks Achmed.

Hoppean Libertarianism is what happens when you either redpill a NatSoc on economy or redpill a free-market guy on (((Globalism))) and (((Communism)))

Because he's a regular here.

You tell me.

I used to accept the libertardians, but as the question of race becomes more and more important i can't entertain the idea any longer.

I still respect the ideals of liberalism and democracy, i just no longer believe they are strong enough to handle the crises Europeans and their colonies face.

Heil fucking hitler

I just assumed it was Nigger Mountain and didn't give a shit.

What would you call someone who is red-pilled on jews and white genocide but honestly just wants to live alone in the forest self sufficiently with muh guns and muh weed and fight for my own land when the time comes?

NatSoc

Show your nazi support and help me colour Hitlers mustache black.

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Libertarian.

lmao

>Kekistan flag
Okay buddy.

>fascist
>uses nazi flag

Sup Forums is not one person

Hey i just like flags, guy.

Bet

Liberalism is shit.
All the problems we have today are directly linked to Liberalism.
It's baby's first ideology until you realise that Liberalism divides people of a nation.

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c-civic nationalist

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Fascertarian

Hoppeans believe in prosperity through extreme discrimination, so there's one thing in common. Hoppeans believe that society naturally aligns itself into a mosaic of peaceful communities connected along kinship or religious groups. There's room for a NatSoc state to exist as long as they don't violate private property outside the voluntary state. This peaceful state would just be another part of the mosaic.

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Rumor is that Sup Forums and that Sup Forums guy are one in the same and he changes his opinions regularly.

Fascism for me pls

I don't know about those guys, I'm kinda Libertarian.

See the cross in the middle? Sup Forums is christian traditionalist.

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Steven "I'm interested in cremation" Anderson

>Libertarianism
>National socalism
>pick one?

The idea by all means sounds fantastic, but the two ideolgies are so fundmentaly diffrent on many important issues that the result would be completly compromised and watered down from the two ideolgies starting roots.

For example the idea of the free market, would conflict with many points of national socalism such as the nationalisation of various public services and utilites,
not mention the task of ridding the nation of degenerate influences.
Such key tenents of nat-soc would thus violate the core center principle of libertarianism that being the free market.

Dude I met pole wunce he was chatting about anime and seig highling his waitress in the face everytime she asked if he needed anything. Preddy weird desuu

Anarcho-fascist

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>Implying Fascism has a chance of ever rising in the West again without whichever nation attempting it being nuked the fuck out by ZOG, Russia, and China

Both, sort of.

>Putin would intervene if Trump went full Adolf

wrong.

No one says we have to combine the 2.

I N T E G R A L I S M

Im anarcho- communist unironically

Hey dumb shot, Nazism =! Facism. Two totally different things.

The problem with feudalism is it didn't adapt well to industrialism. Land loses some of its utility as a wealth sink when traditional craftsmanship is replaced by machines. The merchant class was able to BTFO of the landed gentry by monopolizing this new source of wealth.

The Jews were able to seize control of Europe's economy during the decline of traditional craft because usury gave them the risk tolerance and liquidity necessary fund these new modes of production. National socialism is the modern system we need because it strips the transnational merchant Jews of their monopoly on the finance of production, giving it back to nationalists. Going back to feudalism would be a deflationary disaster.

Well, based Pinochet had it both ways, why can't we. /pol?

I think both have their place. NS's for tribal strength, libertarians to ensure liberty isn't trampled. Would be a good balance in the aftermath of a hypothetical major happening where libertarians and NS's come out on top together

National Libertarianism? Economic freedom, liberties, but the government takes a strong role in immigration and ensuring that the demographics are not changed, also the ability to muster a unified force

admit it Sup Forums NatSoc and libertarians need each other

fascistarian

Thought so...

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Literally this. Except I would add that it really isn't over economic ideology as the chart would suggest, but rather a fervor of combatting (((leftism/progressivism))) with rightwing/conservative ideology. As I see it, Sup Forums is made up of the increasingly marginalized (white men), and any ideology that favors our existence seems reasonable to the most of us. We all have our preferences and I think the real disagreements that lead one to be either AnCap or NatSoc is whether they value freedom vs purity or individualism vs collectivism more.

>Traditionalist
>Your disagreements with the left are economic not social
Kek. Link pls

I belive in a strong military and suppressing subversive behavior that seeks to undermine the safety and security of my country in a way that doesn't rob constitutional rights.

The only real solution I can come up with is full reinstatement for death penalty, televised, for crimes such as murder and treason, and for repeat offenders on rape and theft.